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There are 0 arguments why this CPU costs $1000 rather than $500

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There are 0 arguments why this CPU costs $1000 rather than $500 other than Intel's greediness and cocksucker fanboys.

Come on shills, debate me.
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>140 TDP

Jesus, AMD is really going to wipe the floor with this guys.
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PCI Lanes. If you video edit in 4k, you need at least 36 lanes.

Ryzen is for games, and winrar.
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>>59086441
>Ryzen is for games
Wrong. The 7700K outperforms anything Ryzen at a lower price in the vast majority of games.
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>>59086441
>If you video edit in 4k, you need at least 36 lanes

I'm a professional video editor and you're straight up lying, you clueless shill. Did you find this in your shilling guide book, pajeet?
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>>59086441
(You)
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>>59086470
>Ryzen 7 1700 $329
>7700K (half the cores) $350
It's like you're not even trying
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>>59086533

:^)
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>>59086441
>If you video edit in 4k, you need at least 36 lanes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnapaZYD2cU
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>>59086533
>Ryzen 7 1700 3.0 GHz, cucked 65W TDP part
>7700K 4.0 GHz, 4.5GHz turbo, can hit 5.0GHz in most cases with next to no effort
>Ryzen IPC still behind Kaby Lake
Yeah nah, the 7700K is the better buy for gaming.
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So you shills can't debate over 6900K? It's pretty clear you're only instructed to carry with 7700K bullshit.
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>>59086543
You're getting jewed to the max.
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Nope.
Looks like my 3770k is still go for at least one more year.
Anyone who bought an i7 in the last 4 years has absolutely no reason to "upgrade".
People buying Ryzen ether come for core 2/buildozer(maybe i5) builds, or they have an actual use case for heavy multi-threading.
It's great that AMD is showing good performance. But I don't think it's gonna sell a lot.
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>>59086706
Preorders are outperforming all Intel offerings.
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>>59086562
>>>/v/
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>>59086725
well they're just that, preorders.
I almost fell for the hype myself.
Then I realized I'd be paying 900€ or so for more usb 3 and m2 and some marginally higher gaming performance.
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>>59086484
You're not a professional editor.
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>>59086562

question though, what about if you are listening to music, streaming, have other bloatware open meantime because you play some shit like WoW where you alt-tab during a flight plan.

not even streaming, but even just recording fraps, or whatever. what then?

not trying to shill, i think the 7700k is still the better buy as its price is $340, but... more coars seems okay.
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>>59086441
only if you're using multiple cards
a single card running on 3.0 @ 16x doesn't change depending on the other lanes
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>>59086404
wow its almost like when you have no real competition you can set the price to anything you want
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>>59087456
That's where in lies the problem, for the work I do, I need at least three Titan X's. A simple NLE won't need that power, but when it comes to grading 4K/6K RAW with effects, and multiple nodes, one card is simply not enough. Shit my workstation is a dual xeon supermicro, and it is still slow on some things.
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>>59086404
>because they can

also how many perfect examples do you think they have laying around. you're asking why use the economics of binning. Sometimes even if they have a perfect chip but need to fill an order for an i3 they will neuter is (im sure this hyperbolic example doesnt happen tho)

tl;dr: because life's unfair, isn't it poorfag?
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>>59087522
>titan x's
maxwell or pascal?
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>>59087568
Pascal
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>>59087572
nice
you ever play games on that thing?
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>>59087522
what kind of videos do you edit that it takes that much to do it?
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>>59087588
No, games run no faster on this than a gaming motherboard. Video cards only need 8x PCI lanes to run games.
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That's correct actually.
i5 is best for gaymers. Hyper-threading is irrelevant in this matter.
Xeon is for professionals, rather than i7.
i7 is like a jack of all trades and master of none. Useless piece of shit for retarded idiots.
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>>59086404
Depends how you define "costs"

Cost to produce the processor: 10 cents
Cost to mine, bring and process the materials to produce the processor: 1000000 cents
Cost to produce the machinery needed to produce the processor: 10000000000 cents
Cost to investigate the technology to create the processor, including paying everyone in the company that works for this in one way or another: 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 cents

That's what you're paying for.
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>>59087618
well i'm moreso wondering about the SLI scaling between three Titan XPs
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>>59087654
SLI would crash the system, the software uses each card individually.
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>>59087669
well shit
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>>59087678
http://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/DaVinciResolve/20160726-118da9/DaVinci_Resolve_12_Configuration_Guide.pdf
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>>59086650
Ausfalia prices.
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>>59087391
nah, in the case you listed, all of what you are doing will impact the i7 significantly more then the 8 core.
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>>59086484
you are using pcie ssds that use 4 lanes or an external drive cluster that uses a 8x, possibly 16x slot, and in that case you are not gaming so the gpu can be set to 4x, more then enough bandwidth.
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>>59087522
>muh extreme use case

Does not apply to 99% of people or even 99% of content creators. You are an anomaly. And not the cool kind like Neo, the annoying kind that needs to fuck off.
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>>59087781
it's just 30 bucks more expensive when doing the exchange. that's like one extra hour minimum wage there. shut the fuck up
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>>59086404
>>59086425
Nobody here buys the 6900k you autistic piece of shits. Everyone goes for up to 300-400 max. Jesus fucking christ you are mentally challenged aren't you.
Fucking using a cherry picked chip like the FUCKING 6900k.
It's even clocked at 3.2Ghz you autistic shits.
Literally everyone here and their mother runs 4.7Ghz chips.
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>>59088479

>when doing the exchange

REEE AMERILARDS
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>>59086441
PCI lanes are >care: 0

Now those 8 dimm slots for 128 GB memory have some worth. Sadly, so has 128 GB of DDR4, holy shit RAM has got so expensive again.
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>>59088517
>4c/8t
>In 2017

Holy fuck look at this Intelcuck.
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>>59086470
It will win by 5-10% in single-thread limited games, but lose by 30-60% in everything else. The future two years are going to have less of the former and more of the latter.

Basically, either get Ryzen if you are going to buy now, or wait 1 year and buy Coffee Lake 6core from Intel in 2018. Kaby Lake is bad proposition.
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>>59088395
Look at anyone that does real content creation and check out their rendering machines. Most people are using at least 2 graphics cards, and the x99 ones will be using 3. When time is money, the faster they can pump out videos the more money they can get, paying an extra couple of grand is usually worth it
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>>59088553
What's wrong with 4c/8t
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>>59087391
>not even streaming, but even just recording fraps, or whatever. what then?

>fraps
>in 2017

You totally need that placebo no compression quality while hardware accelerated encoding offers files 10% the size using 1% the resources but that's not enough for you because it's only 95% of the quality, right?
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>>59088640
It's on the way out after having a good decade of life. Next year Intel jumps to sixcores in mainstream and quadcores will quickly lose steam in games.
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>>59088553
>implying multithreading is useful in 2017 for anything other than compiling gentoo
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>>59088640
>>59088715
Basically, if you have one now, keep it for now, don't upgrade yet.

But I would not buy one for a new PC build, now.
Either go higher with Ryzen, or wait a year and get 6core Coffee Lake next year from Intel.
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>>59088715
I see. Thank you.
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>>59088587
Well, they can keep on buying $1000 Intel CPUs like good little goys and everyone else can buy AMD at half the price.
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>>59088848
last time i checked ryzen doesnt have 40 pcie lanes to the cpu
broadwell-e is enthusiast/commercial hardware. stop comparing it to gayming shit
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>>59088848
amd opterons?
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>>59088848
This is a moot point anyway, since the Ryzen Opteron will have more.
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If AMD makes a Dual - Quad capable Opeteron for $499, then Intel will be BTFO.
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>>59089006
>opteron
>$499
pick one
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>>59086404
intel is the jew, don't fall for its jewry
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