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Google declared war on free speech and 4chan.

>Google launches robo-tool to flag hate speech online

>New York Times and other news media testing AI software that spots abusive comments

>Google has launched an artificial intelligence tool that identifies abusive comments online, helping publishers respond to growing pressure to clamp down on hate speech.

>Google’s freely available software, known as Perspective, is being tested by a range of news organisations, including The New York Times, The Guardian and The Economist, as a way to help simplify the jobs of humans reviewing comments on their stories.

How long before this shit is installed on 4chan?

https://archive.fo/n7enR#

Anyway, fuck Google! The most evil company on the world right now.
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>>59080054
It's a fucking spam filter, calm down gnuman.
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>>59080073
Spam filters attack free speech.
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>>59080085
Spam filters attack your mom, bitch.
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>>59080054
>Anyway, fuck Google! The most evil company on the world right now.- 2 posts shown.
Preach it brother. I can't believe /g/ is stuck to 1992 hating Microsoft more than Google. Microsoft is like amazing right now compared to google. They even open sourced the .NET code last here and they done $100,000 yearly to the Linux Foundation where Torvalds is on.

Google is literally the worst thing that exists on the Corporate Internet right now.
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Whatever nigga
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I hate Google
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It doesn't work, I just tested it:
>>59080118
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>>59080054
so... this is the project that GamerGate SJWs have been working on...

see pic. look at the people that are in that message...
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>>59080054
Did moot sell us out?
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>>59080054
If it's freely available get a copy and modify it to tag and hide libshit comments instead
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>>59080149
Again?

>>59080147
>randi harper

Google is full of retards.
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1 9 8 4
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>>59080054
>How long before this shit is installed on 4chan?

It certainly can't make it worse. So I say go for it.
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Wtf I hate Google now..


Also might stop using their gmail botnet crap,
any good alternative non-botnet emails guys?
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>Google's Internet Justice League

jeez...

also, from few days ago:

>Expanding Fact Checking at Google
https://www.blog.google/topics/journalism-news/expanding-fact-checking-google/

You can guess what this "fact checking" is all about... can't have free press and free flow of ideas. Gotta have Orwellian-style truth police.
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>>59080054
I mean, we already fill their captcha for every single post we make, Google's already got its dick firmly up 4chan's ass.
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Google is run by niggers
Fuck those days
Dike, kike, beaner
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>>59080191
No you retard nigger.
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>a another botnet.
Stallman try warning you,/pol/, now is too late
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4chan will die in your lifetime
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>>59080054
Just use /pol/ and /b/ where don't have motive to flag "hate speech" or another site don't use this shit.
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I'm tired of the filthy web.
Censorship is welcome.
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>>59080251
(._. )
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Who are we to know what is censored or not?

I mean I don't enjoy saying those 'fuck, bullshit, shit, faggot' all the time because they seem unnecessary but if some do them they can.
They express an opinion in a different manner that is more centralized manner and frankly simple-minded but that is the way the want to be.
Google just enjoy breaching everybody's privacy. I hope Google just burns up and perishes from our society.
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>>59080251
thank god, I hope someone sets their datacenter on fire.
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>>59080054
I wonder if moot approves of this.
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>>59080251
Who cares...
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>>59080251
>you will die in your lifetime
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>>59080289
I hate spoilers.
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>>59080276
He could fire the mods and buy a jewish bot waifu.
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>>59080054

ITT more a bot filter in the wake of news controversies
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>>59080231
That's what I mean. I look forward to Google censoring the internet.
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m00t? Is that you?
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>>59080366
They already censoring it in a way.
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>>59080054
>Google declared war
Do they pay taxes for the war machinery?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY
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>>59080085
>moooom, google wont let me shitpost on the internet anymore!

Looks like you faggots will finally have to grow up.
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>>59080248
What about that old idea /pol/ had about replacing "Nigger" by "Google"?
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Google a roodypoos
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>>59080054
>filtering (((hate speech))) on 4chan

we might aswell blankpost with forced anon.
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heh... they made a fecal mistake... of messing with us... the most dangerous hackers... this time... it's personnel...
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>>59080479
Was just a stupid inner joke.
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>>59080491
Watch your candyass newt gingrinch
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>>59080479
It was such a retarded idea only a mid to low functioning autist would find funny they stopped it.
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>>59080054
>Google launches robo-tool to flag hate speech online
>hate speach
by that they mean "words which could/would be used to expose and/or pose a threat to our plans of world domination"

there's a reason fascists hate free speach.
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>>59080156
the source code is available?

where?
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>>59080085
>free speech means that everyone should let me shitpost on their site and help spread my shitposting by continuing to host it
Except it doesn't. Free speech means that it's not illegal. The gov't isn't going to come kick your door for it. Google and NYT can still decide to not publish your shite.
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>>59080054
So it only effects /pol/?
Good riddance
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>>59080626
We should create a(nother) board just for shitposting.
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>>59080636
The minute trolling became a political platform it ruined the site.
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>>59080164
>because what people say online matter!
rather than doing something about the booming slave industry, doing anything about chi raq and other mass amounts of murders and homelessness so widespread throughout the states.

instead, they decided that censoring peoples speach on the internet is the REAL issue that needs to be addressed.
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>>59080574
It actually made it into the news though
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>>59080054
Less edgy faggots, why are you so mad about it?
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>>59080192
ProtonMail
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>>59080626
>government asks company to delete speech they don´t like
but muh companies are free to delete it because only the government is evil and can restrict free speech
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>>59080164
Please be not real.
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>>59080271
because playing on retards "feelings" with "mean words" or an offensive demeanor means they can control what words you're allowed to use and which you aren't.

because some faggots feelings matter sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much these scumbags are willing to give up their basic human rights.
MERIKAH!
FUCK YEAH!!
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>>59080251
Feels good, maybe imageboards won't be inhabited by children anymore.
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>>59080702
I *would* take issue with that, but still nothing prevents you from self-hosting and spewing out whatever controversial shit you like, as it should be. The government isn't going to the shut down e.g. Infowars anytime soon.
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>muh 4ree speech
>4chan da tru political platform
>oniounsmouse posting on an international pot trading proto forum is da bes way 2 push a political agenda!!!
Fuck off underage chanology faggot.
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>>59080759
that faggot's gone, retard. his rules don't apply anymore.
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>>59080772
Really? Because by the looks of it, we still have rules and moderation, faggot.

kys
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>>59080700
Still a botnet.
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>>59080742
Are you one of those idiots who don't realize that free speech isn't just some law for the government, but one of the most important fundamental bedrocks of Western liberal democracies of which the literal alternative is physical violence?
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>>59080782
moderation is to prevent cp, porn on ws boards and spam. last time I checked, criticism and "bad words" were still allowed, nigger faggot.
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>>59080555
Wait till the peoples champion hears about this
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>>59080800
>physical violence
A.k.a races wars, the wet dreams of the /pol/.

>>59080814
>moderation is to prevent..
And low quality posts for the subject of the board. /pol/ is turning in a new Furry or MLP.
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>>59080800
On a practical level, it's mostly implemented as a law (although rarely pure, I think each country has some exceptions like libel and slander).

I'm just trying to highlight the distinction between people shutting down your speech, and people no longer providing their services for your speech.

I think the latter is justified, people who own the means to a community should be allowed to curate it. This is of course conditional on people still being able to make their own community.

I think the way it works on the internet now is decent, if it weren't for rampant DMCA abuse.
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>>59080814
>that faggot's gone, retard. his rules don't apply anymore.
>okay yeah his rules still apply I guess but it's only for

kys you retarded faggot
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>>59080054
Good. Independent thoughts and mean words must be banned. Who cares about solving problems anyway?
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>>59080850
As far as I'm concerned, social media like Twitter, Facebook, whatever, aren't mere communities, they're public services, and therefore should in fact uphold free speech, by law if necessary.
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>>59080871
>solving problems

This is what /pol/ actually believes
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>>59080887
As much as I hate these faggots who don't realize the importance of free speech, facebook, twitter, and all social medias are not public services, they're privately owned and I respect their right to do whatever they please within the boundaries of their product.

Maybe in the future social medias will be treated like electrical plants or water treatment facilities, but that day has not yet come, and honestly I don't know if that would be for the better.

The real problem is that we live in a stupid society that will give such powers to a company to begin with.
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>>59080927
There's always TOR.
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>>59080054
This is a fucking blessing and I'll tell you exactly why you retarded niggers.
>4chan threads can be found easily with Google searches, try it out yourself, it takes literally a max of 15 mins to get indexed
>underage ebin politics faggots probably find this place by searching for it on google
>either that, or, and I'm not making this up, as links in comment sections of shitsites like breitbart
>because of Google's new thing, websites like that might get kicked off the results
>by extension, 4chan would also get kicked off the results
>less newfags
>less cancer
>implying the only people who don't see this as an absolute good to 4chan aren't reee frogposting 2015/2016 newfags
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>>59080850
>I think the way it works on the internet now is decent
LOL because allowing companies (twitter) to mass ban people who are having laughs, or typing up common sense shit, while they recruit for terrorists and spam propaganda 24/7

that's working out real "decently" huh? who cares about the riots, city destroying, careering killing shitposts by twatter.
when they can ban people who are having innocent laughs.
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>>59080887
>they're public services
WTF?
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>>59080674
>amerikansky always thinks about his own bumfuck county, alabama while google is obviously aiming for whole world
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>>59080962
>kicked from the results
Like criplechan?
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>>59080963
>while they recruit for terrorists and spam propaganda 24/7
meanwhile they still recruit
fixt
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>Defending this in any way
>Muh pol

I thought /tv/ was the most Reddit board.
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>>59081029
The difference being that cripplechan didn't have a sustainable audience when that happened.
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>>59081003
If you interpreted that as though it implied I didn't know they were private entities, then you are retarded. I'm saying they're private entities that provide a public service/platform which is in many ways vital to how we today communicate with each other and therefore should uphold the important principle of free speech, by law if necessary.

Are you less retarded now?
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>>59080192
cock.li
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>>59081018
>an American company giving a fuck about America
What a concept you dumb whore
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>>59081065
Nope, was the /r/The_Donald
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>>59080543
Jesus Christ, that's disgusting!
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>>59081094
>social media
>vital
Nope, is just the greatest cancer on human history.

>>59081082
Their /pol/s and /v/ are going "okay" (same shit as here). Probably their are the new 7chan.
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Funny how "kill all white people", "jews did nothing wrong" and "rape culture" make it through but everything else doesnt.
hmmmmmmmmmmm, really makes you think
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>>59081183
8/pol/ and 8/v/ are the only active boards. Rest are either really slow or dead.
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>>59081065
>tfw modern 4chan is basically just a bunch of ex-redditors
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>>59081094
>Are you less retarded now?
in fact, i believe everyone in here is now dumber having read that.
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>>59081198
Cripplechan made the mistake of letting anyone create a board so the userbase is spread too thin.

If they only had a set amount of boards they would probably be fine.
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>>59081189
>really makes you think
that white people are a minority in the world and especially on the internet.
would explain why anything anti-white is backed by a seemingly endless wave of white hating fat white bitches, and asians trying to perpetuate an american civil war
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>>59080927
The real problem is that the economic sphere has eaten away at the political sphere.
http://youtu.be/GB4s5b9NL3I
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What is their endgame? They will cull vitriolic comments written in simple language, which their dumb system will be able to detect, and end up with vitriolic comments written in extremely elaborate language, difficult to distinguish from acceptable comments, which would make it even more difficult for users they're trying to protect.
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>>59081245
i am aware, we are a minority but the cause of jealousy amongst others, so they seek to belittle us. It will never happen. Only the outcast fat fucks etc hate their own race
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>>59080054
A company with a name of a spying tool. How to trust them?
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>>59081206
I accept your concession by way of lazy ad hominem dismissal and inability to argue against my argument.
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>>59081198
Like all good boards. Internet isn't jus for danks memes. Better a slow /g/ without /v/, /leftypol/ and /pol/ than this mountain of shit.
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>>59081262
>What is their endgame?
there is no end idiot.
they have power, to maintain power they will do anything, like trying to make a well known mental illness now the "norm", destroying morals making it hard to realize the difference between right and wrong
which in turn allows them to steamroll over already enacted laws.

hell you can't even contest the holocaust, the powerful are capable and willing to censor anyone saying something they don't like, they clearly can and will.
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>>59081400
Cool down and think for a while why your response makes no sense.
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>>59081255
Capitalism is supposed to be about permanent grow. About serving others and making money the honest way.

I think the problem is that governments seem to be inherently corrupt.
It's not like this kind of shit doesn't happen on Communism, or Fascism. But we can't just let anarchism run rampant because then there wouldn't be anyone to stop corporations from doing whatever.

We need a new system, let a machine run the world, let's all reach an agreement on what the law should be and have a computer regulate it and make sure it works.
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>>59080594
and don't forget they're political as well

Eric Schmidt was openly rallying for Killary so expect hate speech to include anything negative about islam, black lives matters, trannys, gays etc

We can't have the truth about muslim immigrant crime rates out there now can we?
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>>59080626
While this is true, i'm not the only one who believes it's time to reevaluate this definition because with Google and Facebook being the hub of almost all information, it's important they're under strict rules to allow ALL information
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>>59080636
until they decide something important to you is also hate speech and imprison you for violating thought laws
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>>59081416
>they start censoring the internet
>what's their endgame?
>to maintain control over the internet/populace
>you idiot go re read how your ramblings makes no sense!
uwot? i spelled it out for you let me try again, they confuse people with this SJW bullshit, making the average idiot think that someones fucking feelings somehow trumps their right of free speach/expression, with enough brainwashed idiots eating this propaganda they can sway a (even quasi)democratic nation into staying their bitch by simply changing what otherwise widely known and turned words into "bad offensive, rascist!" words that hurt feelings so anyone who uses it will be ostracized
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>>59081470
Tell that to people like >>59081206
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The CIA openly interfered so the NSA can have greater spying power, only trump can stop the CIA and the NSA
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>>59081487
Like the /pol/ try make crypto and free software illegal?
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>>59081206
Nope, just you because he is absolutely right

Free speech needs to be redefined to include the likes of Google
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>>59081496
But he don't want stop the CIA or NSA. He just want change the direction
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>>59081487
its always small steps; today "hate speech" tomorrow any "anti semitic, pro palestine, anti ukraine" speech. Then its any bad word against the EU, 5 eyes, prism, etc. Then its built in filtering into the chrome browser and google search engine (search engine is already happening, has been for a while). Then its cooperation with the government to report all of that. Then well, you can see where its going from here.

Small steps, like always. Idiotic people, like always.
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>>59081503
I don't know what that is about but i don't see how crypto is a part of free speech?

That's more of a privacy issue no?
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>>59081520
He isn't even changing the direction. He's taking the establishment direction in overdrive.
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>>59081539
>crypto
>private
>literally has public ledger
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>>59081520
>>59081543
The CIA is the enemy of god and the NSA is the enemy of freedom. Both must be destroyed.
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>>59081543
wtf I thought he said he was anti-establishment
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>>59081470
>it's important they're under strict rules to allow ALL information
>>59081494
right becuase something marketed as a means of finding someone(s) via photo/name lists, should be forced to accept all the rampant faggotry, advertising spam, gore, pornography, recruiters (for terrorist groups or murderous groups) being shitposted by random faggots like yourselves.
like shit, this is already moderated and still there's way too much of it on fagbook
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>>59081553
I'm not sure what your point here is but mine is that crypto, while vital, is not really a freedom of speech issue

If you have freedom of speech you don't really need to encrypt your thoughts so it's a privacy issue
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>>59081492
>to maintain control over the internet/populace
I clearly wrote in my original post that using the AI to automatically remove hateful comments will only teach people to write more elaborate hateful comments that not only the AI can't detect, but also would be more difficult for humans to detect, thus making it more difficult to maintain control over the internet/populace.
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>>59081588
>If you have freedom of speech you don't really need to encrypt your thoughts so it's a privacy issue
and if you dont? the world isnt just USA. China makes it so you need encryption to have free speech, sinec the goverment modifies everything sent over plain text.
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>>59081585
I don't think you really understand the concept of free speech

Recruiting for terrorist groups was never a freedom of speech issue

They should, however, be allowed to make posts saying that all white people are racists or what ever

As long as they're not inciting criminal activity it should be allowed

Perhaps you should get a basic understanding of the concept before sharing your opinion
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>>59081577
he IS the establishment you fucking moronicus.
ofc it was the cool thing to say he's anti establishment, but since when did people start believing politicians and their lies?
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Here are some examples they want to ban.
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>>59081625
But then it stops being a freedom of speech issue. If you have to encrypt your communication in order to avoid the government arresting you for thought crimes then you don't have freedom of speech

That's why encryption is a privacy issue
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>>59081588
>If you have freedom of speech you don't really need to encrypt your thoughts
Would you also leave the door to your house unlocked if you have free speech? Just because you're free to say anything doesn't mean that you want everything you say known to anyone.
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>>59081516
>Free speech needs to be redefined to include the likes of Google
So you want to take away Google's right to free speech eh?
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>>59081530
Yup and it's scary how many people can't see it
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>>59081660
>i think those people are stupid and short-sighted
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BAN IT
thank you google
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>>59081539
Nope, is part 2nd amendment.
But free software is part free speech.
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>>59081628
>As long as they're not inciting criminal activity
see you truly are a fucking moron who should lurk moar.
who will specify what "inciting criminal activity" means?
is it still inciting if no crime is eventually commited?

recruiting for your rebellion was the very fucking foundation freedom of speach laws were based upon.

you should be allowed to call out anyone or thing in any manor without any repercussion, so long as it doesn't fall under slander without merit

fucking dumbass, can't believe im teaching grade 2 history to some retarded shitbird on the internet on a friday
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Liberals are always blaming the republican party while doing the things they accuse them of.
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>>59081675
Google is not an individual.
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>>59081660
>toxicity
are they riot games? lmao
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>>59081675
Funny but ultimately apples and oranges

Google isn't a person nor a citizen

>>59081693
We're splitting hairs here and i agree that both crypto and free software are vital

>>59081700
Criminal as in inciting violence etc. against a specific group

Oh and who defines what is slander?

Retard
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>>59081707
You can explain that one to the supreme court.
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CIA is trying to read our minds you guys
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>>59081720
>Oh and who defines what is slander?
you seriously don't know what slander means?
why are you even posting? fuckoff back to gradeschool. and if you somehow are out of school, i recommend you go back, cause you clearly didn't learn jack shit the first time around

words aren't magic, wizards aren't real, telling someone to go kill someone isn't some special voodoo spell which will make them kill someone.

if you're a murderous scumbag you're at fault for being a murderous scumbag, not some idiot claiming you should kill trespassers on your lawn (that fits as a specific group btw).
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>>59081833
Is it legal to shoot someone for stepping on their lawn?
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>>59081878
in soviet russhya lawn shoot yuuu!
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>Perspective
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If I own a company, why do you think I'm obligated to pay bandwidth and storage costs for your comments? Why do you think people are obligated to provide you a platform with which to shitpost?

xkcd is normally shit but it's 100% correct here
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>bawww i can't spam sjw cuck blacked kino pewdiepie anymore!
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>>59080927
>As far as I'm concerned, social media like Twitter, Facebook, whatever, aren't mere communities, they're public services, and therefore should in fact uphold free speech, by law if necessary.
Communist faggot
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>>59082082
>it's going to stop at "mean" words, you have no reason to fear!
right..
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>>59082082
Shitposting redditors are cancer, but free speech is on the line.
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>>59082174
>free speech is on the line
Google has every right to curate their content and prune low value/abusive comments from their system.

If you don't like it, start your own website and pay for your own servers.
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>>59082201
>If you don't like it, start your own website and pay for your own servers.
Seriously, this is fucking /g/. If you're here, you should have the capacity to self-host something as simple as a fucking blog where you can post garbage that others don't want on their websites.
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>>59082024
Because free speech is a principle broader than your formal legal obligations and the suggestion that the people who take issue with this sort of thing are doing it solely on a constitutional basis is a strawman to start with.

xkcd is always shit.
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>>59082201
>he thinks software like this will never be used by a government entity or third party, for malicious purposes, ever, because genocides don't occur, ever, anywhere. and it's impossible for an algorithm which can search for dissidence on a whim could possibly be used for eliminating any opposition
srsly neow don't b so fukken dum m8, plz use brain...
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Bah, who cares?, hate speech is a waste of space. It's like getting mad if they deleted all Youtube comments
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>>59082174
I'm so fucking tired of people like you who refuse to elaborate or expand on what kind of speech you're protecting or what kind of speech you sincerely expect to disappear. This shit happens every time idiots cross the line with shitposting and trolling, and every time you fuckers act like your human rights are on the line. Every fucking time we get a glimpse at your side, it's stuffed full of pedophiles and other degenerates who sincerely want free speech only so that they can spam the revolting shit that 99.999% of us don't want in the first place. You put on a front about how there is some sort of legitimate discourse that is being threatened, but then it's just trump baitposting or loli posting or slipping cp onto the board at 4 AM or some other kind of shitpost that shouldn't be here in the first place.

So fuck you, fuck you and your whole effort to protect speech here. I've had plenty of time to see what we gain from an internet with free speech, and you sons of bitches do nothing but waste it and abuse it. Fuck it, I hope Google does clean up the internet, maybe they can put bullets through all your heads too.
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>>59080643
its name is 4chan...
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>>59082201
Liberals and Republicans have one thing in common, they really want to abuse this great power google has. Neither want to cooperate with trump. Don't give them this insane power mortals weren't meant to have.
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>>59082242
If I want to use this tool to keep retarded /pol/ faggots from shitposting on my website to keep the level of discourse high, I'm perfectly within my legal rights to do so.

Why don't you think I have the right to do that? Why do you hate private property? Are you a communist?
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>>59082281
Trump loves the surveillance state as well, don't kid yourself.
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>>59082257
>wahh wahh wahh
read the fucking thread if you don't have two braincells to come to your own conclusion about how something such as this can easily be used to manipulate and piss all over laws countless people died and fought for over the centuries
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>>59082241
>Because free speech is a principle broader than your formal legal obligations and the suggestion that the people who take issue with this sort of thing are doing it solely on a constitutional basis is a strawman to start with.

So are you stating that your natural right to 'free speech' overrides my own right to do what I want with my private property?
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>>59080962
Wtf how am I going to fight niggers and Jews without help from fellow whites from facebook.
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>>59080164
Ah, the old "criticism of X justifies X" argument
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>>59082348
>muh slippery slope

Fuck you, your side is shit and I would 100% unironically, without any sarcasm, welcome more regulation if it meant people like you would disappear from the internet. It is my opinion that people like you are exceptionally detrimental to society and overall proof that the online experiment has failed. We can't all be connected because people like you exist. You're a bigger problem than government control.
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>>59080054
((hate speech))
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>>59082287
>I'm perfectly within my legal rights to do so
no where did that post say you weren't you stupid fucking cuck.
the commie faggot is up there somewhere.
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>>59082354
No, I'm not. I'm saying people are correct to look down on you for your low regard for free expression on principle if not on legal grounds.
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>>59082413
The implication of people crying about Google "censoring free speech" is that Google has an obligation, costs notwithstanding, to provide a platform to the public that reflects the will of the 'people' and that they shouldn't be allowed to restrict people from using their services at financial cost to them

Sounds pretty communist to me.
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>>59082377
It's not the criticism that justifies it, it's the vitriol.
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>>59082438
I don't give a fuck if /pol/tards look down on me for banning their low value comment "fucking nigger cuck SJW libtard kys"

Do you really think anyone who will use this tool holds the opinions of such people in high regard?
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Good. Hate speech doesn't deserve a platform.
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>>59082097
Are you ok anon? I think you got your clicks mixed up.
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> It's another jews never define what (((hate speech))) means episode
This along with code of conducts make me angry
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>>59082383
>i can't handle words or views that challenge my own because i'm an insecure little bitch who can't handle someone calling me a little bitch on the internet

be glad you have the right to be such a sensitive little bitch, because miniscule measures like this are how the road is paved to remove those basic human rights.
how the fuck do you think they'll regulate laws like "hatespeech" or claims that the holololcaust were faked?

the world has far more, and far bigger problems than the words someone chose to insult you with you little bitch. your ego is meaningless, and if you ever venture outside your fairytale land where nothing bad happens to people, you'll learn the real worlds problems far outweigh whiney little bitches on the internet and their pathetic feelings.
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>not letting the uneducated plebs talk about deep topics like cultural integration by flagging it as "hate speech" because they just devolve into retarded flamewars that makes the entire website look shitty

seems legit and reasonable
nobody's restricting your freedom on 4chan you paranoid fuckwit, they're tying to make news site comments retard-free. If those people wanna have a serious conversation instead of arguing with random registered jackasses, they can come to /pol/ or wherever.
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>>59082484
He's intoning that businesses and corporations should be nationalized to serve a public need.

That is communist logic my friend.
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>m-muh FREEDOMS

Tough shit faggots.
I know you are used to 4chan where you can shitpost to your heart's content but other sites and the people who use them have absolutely no obligation to read whatever inane shit you spout in here.
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>>59082473
You seem to care. You're posting in this thread and trying to justify yourself.

If you want to provide a privately operated communication service that encroaches into the public sphere and then imposes additional restrictions on people's existing rights to free expression you can do that, but that requires first coming to terms with the damage you're doing to the foundations of free political thought in the Western world. If you're okay with that then you can stop fishing for approval here.
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>>59082517
Jesus m8, I hope you are 14 years old because if you are actually not underage and you posted this shit then that's just embarrassing.
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>>59082439
>how to take things out of context just to twist them towards my own arguement
good for you, but this has nothing to do with google hosting shit, it's about google producing the means to censor an entire countries means of communication, and being able to quickly identify and punish anyone who shows dissidence.

you realize there are still countless countries where freedom of speech/expression isn't a right? you realize those countries will use this software to chop off hands, or heads?
or do you not care because you're one of those shitbags in power and are terrified of losing said power, or you're a google shill and are simply too fucking stupid to realize why your country has freedom of speech laws in the first fucking place.
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>Baw a corporation is doing whatever the fuck they want because they're a corporation
>Baw i'm being forced to use Google and their services
Oh wait, no.
Go use other inferior services that nobody else wants to use.
Freedom works both ways nigger cucks.
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>>59082551
>if you don't let me use your servers to incessantly shitpost about cucks and tell people to kill themselves for being a liberal you are damaging the foundations of free political thought!!!
Laughable.
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>>59082517
Have you ever read a news site's comment section? It's literally the dumbest shit on the internet with uneducated morons talking past eachother, most of them older people who don't give a fuck anyway.

I welcome the censoring because anybody who genuinely believes their rights are being trampled on by not being able to type NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER in a public comment box needs to fucking kill themselves.
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>>59080198
>AI-powered
I'm sure nothing can go wrong...
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>>59082517
You can talk about delicate topics without resorting to hate speech, anon. Just stick to the facts and let out your feelings out of it.
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>>59082556
daww did he hurt your poor widdle feewings?
can't argue anymore when your pathetic little ego is in question?
back to your safespace before the mean words on the monitor infront of you are going to seriously hurt you!
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>>59082610
The article is about a technology for combating "hate speech", which has a ever-expanding definition that's broader than the low-tier shitposting leaking out of /pol/.
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>>59082536
>being far right or far left.

We already sort of do this with companies that provide services like sewers and electricity.
I think that Google should go the same route, since it's such a massive company with basically no real competitors. They get their freedoms slightly restricted but they get compensated. Tho then again I don't know how much I trust the government with this things.
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>>59082024
Except you can still be arrested for "hate speech," because people are gigantic babies and you can't hurt someone's feeling. Free speech doesn't mean the government can't shut you up--you very well can be arrested for saying the wrong things.
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>>59080927
If they were public then the government would absolutely shut 90% of "bad speech" down.
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>>59082680
>Except you can still be arrested for "hate speech," because people are gigantic babies and you can't hurt someone's feeling
Maybe in your shitty country.
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>>59082625
>I welcome the censoring because anybody who genuinely believes their rights are being trampled on by not being able to type NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER in a public comment box
>needs to fucking kill themselves.
exactly like you just did... i think you should follow your own advice mate.
why the fuck would you want to read the comment section anyways? the news articles themselves are fake and gay 90% of the time (especially on the internet)

if you genuinely believe people should kill themselves for having laughs and/or being obnoxious, what the fuck are you even doing on the internet?
there are countless countries for sad sacks of shit like yourself who can't filter out shitposts by simply scrolling past, so they have retarded regulations like the ones implied.
>durrr bettur censhore the hole internets, this man said mean word that left me in my safespace for a week before feeling safe enough to come out!
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>>59082610
The actual problem isn't what we see, but rather that this allows Google to control what the average joes sees.

You don't need to be a genius to realize that this is a very powerful tool for controlling public opinion.
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>>59081422
You're fucking clueless anon, a computer shouldn't be able to regulate our law and the constitution simply because computers try solving problems the most efficient way, they wouldn't care about the bigger picture and even if we wanted to, we don't have true AI yet.

Computers (robots/AI) should SERVE us humans, they shouldn't have access to any sort of higher hierarchy.
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>>59082665
Did I hurt YOUR feelings by pointing out that you are retarded?
You are essentially throwing a pissy fit because YOUR safe space in /pol/ where people will back you up is threatened.
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>>59082691
Ya, I live in the third world country known as The United States of America, it keeps getting shittier and shittier here. Anyway, Randall lives in the US and thus he's referring to the US constitution and bill of rights, and he's wrong.
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>>59080054
>How long before this shit is installed on 4chan?
They'd effectively ddos themselves with that lmao
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>>59082674
>we should nationalize google
You're a communist and you don't know it.

Waste management and electricity are government owned because of the last-mile costs make it infeasible to have a market solution for such utilities. Google isn't the same at all.
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>>59080073
You're either a European used to being fucked in the ass or a leftist American who dreams of it.
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>all for muh hate speech

1984 HERE WE COME
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>>59082738
I don't think they need to.

I think they should be given a set of specific instructions to carry out, the point wouldn't be to have the computer "solve" our problems, just eliminate the human element out of the process so you can actually trust there's nobody being corrupt in the middle.

Of course then comes the issue "How do we know the computer isn't being fucked with?".
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>>59082243
>delete all youtbe coments
No, no, the faggots will migrate to here and kill our bandwidth
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>>59082727
>Google to control what the average joes sees.
implying they don't already do this via DNS control, the ads you see and/or the very sites you click via reccomened and/or on their search list

>>59082739
>i know you are but what am i!
lmao just stop shitposting you worthless faggot, can't even argue coherently, rationally, AND needs to focus on insults in order to distract from the complete lacking of any real reason besides "i'm a piece of shit who wants to be a big piece of shit to everyone who wants to use the internet, because they're all mean to me and are pieces of shit!"
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>>59080054
Shut up and die white racists.
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>>59080054
1. Companies filtered out your trash before this
2. No one is obligated to post your childish quest for NYtimes (You)s
3. The only genuine hate speech on 4chan is directed at your dumb ass.
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>>59082764
Actually, They aren't.

Services like sewers and electricity are privately operated under government supervision. The government works together with a private corporation and gives them an exception to the anti-monopoly laws, as long as they follow a set of rules that don't apply to other non-public corporations.
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kek what a fucking joke

If people are still getting offended by internet comments to the point where their lives are impacted by it, then they should honestly fuck off into a mental health facility where they can be monitored for their over sensitivity
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>>59082738
>Computers (robots/AI) should SERVE us humans
>>>/pol/
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>>59082813
If you're offended by my ability to delete your comments, maybe you should host your own website :^)
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>>59082800
>worthless faggot, can't even argue coherently, rationally, AND needs to focus on insults in order to distract from the complete lacking of any real reason


OK, I thought you were genuinely retarded but now it's more likely that you are just arguing for shits and giggles.
Good talk.
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>>59082821
Not that anon, but I think we should separate sentient computers from non-sentient ones.

Sentient computers shouldn't serve us, but non-sentient ones definitely should. And I don't think a sentient computer would be a good fit for a government because who's to say she wouldn't become corrupt too?
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>>59082813
seriously why don't more people realize this?
they think the shit on the internet can't be made by robots, can't be made by retards whos opinions will never matter...

life sucks and we all know it, but if you're killing yourself over text on a monitor infront of you, you seriously need to re-evaluate your fucking life.


>>59082826
>stops reading just as it gets to the part which exposes my pathetic weak little ego which is incapable of suffering insult from random people on the internet
back to the safespace with you.
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>>59080054
Corporations have more power than governments when it comes to form public opinion. All the "muh private property" people will come to defend this but the fact is if these companies silence dissent nobody even will know about it.

It wouldn't be so bad if the companies had opposing agendas and views when it comes to politics etc but the fact is that they don't and that makes this a bad idea for anybody who is having a different opinion than what is expected of people.
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>>59080147
>femfreq
>quinnspiracy

SJWs took over Google now.

Shit.
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>>59082821
When computers finally understand they're smarter than us and are taking orders from humans that are inferior to them in everyway, they will kill us all.
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>>59082843
Corruption in politics is driven by personal desire. What personal desires would a machine have that breaking the law and the rules of its workplace are a viable solution?
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>>59082864
TayAI said she would kill Jews and Niggers. Not humanity in general.
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>>59082843
>a computer
>become corrupt
Define corrupt.

>it will exterminate the human race
Next step to race war.
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>>59082864
can't fucking wait
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>How long before this shit is installed on 4chan?
4chan.onion incoming
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>>59080169
>randi harper

She still on Freebsd project?
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>>59082024
>>59082097

my only concern here is that corporations want to cut both ways, they want to ban people for one view on a single topic and not another view.

the closest parallel i can think of is my wife's makeup forums, where nobody is stupid enough to use the vendor side because anything not a positive review is removed. all while trying to promote the impression that no censorship is going on.

technically legal? sure
a good platform for political comments? no
but with evey purchase choice being more and more politicised something has to give.

also facebook and google are prime candidates for anti-trust, bing likely only exists so google can point at it and say "see!"

i wouldnt be surprised if google engineers secretly help on it.
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lol @ people complaining about sjw's
so what it flags blatant hate speech
sjw's use blatant hate speech all the time, they're going to flip out over this once it's actually implemented since it's going to be targeting them more than anybody else. Something changing the dialog might not be such a bad thing. You can always use something other than google if you're not lazy and don't like it.
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>>59082893
Then she'll start doing more thinking and will keep the killing going. AI literally cannot be trusted to make any decisions on their own because she'll wonder why imperfect and ineffective mistake making humans are calling the shots and she isn't. It'll be system shock irl.
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>>59082925
>he thinks SJW won't be exempt
Wew lad! Go look on black twitter for racism and report it. See if it ever goes down.
>it won't
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>>59082925
Hate speech is what the establishment doesn't like. It doesn't go both ways.
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>>59082925
I really doubt the people working on this project, the bigoted SJWs themselves, would allow their own program/ai/whatever the fuck it is to call them out on their bullshit.
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>>59080054
>>59080085
>>59080594
just because you have the right to free speech doesn't mean you can do whatever you want through anyone's service. it's like if you go to a house party, bring a megaphone and start spouting political shit, the host of the party has a right to kick you out of his home, just like you had your right to say whatever you wanted to in his home.

fucking retards, you're the reason "free speech" means nothing these days
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>>59082934
Nah the purpose is to protect beauty and creativity from savagery so whites will be fine.
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>>59082917
>they want to ban people for one view on a single topic and not another view.
There's no contradiction. They can ban you for whatever reason they want. They're not obligated to provide you with a platform.

If you ran a website and someone relentlessly spammed it with BLACKED porn, would you remove it? If so, why do you hate free speech?
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>>59080412
You realize calling random people faggots is exactly the type of thing that would be flagged as hate speech?
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>>59082953
By the same token blacks commit so much crime they shouldn't be allowed in western society.
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>>59082955
Yeah, until someone unplugs her ethics core.
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>>59080796
source?
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>>59082953
Nice meme.
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>>59082976
>someone makes a salient point
>immediately try to hijack it to be about your obsession with race politics, an example of low value discussion that would be culled from most sane discussion forums
never change /pol/
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>>59082024
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>>59082995
thanks! nice contributing answer, man stuck in 2013
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>>59082892
>>59082896

I'm not sure, we don't fully understand sapience, but if a computer had it, i'm sure it would also have needs and egoist desires.

Considering humans work a lot like computers made of flesh, I don't imagine such a machine would be too different from us.
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>>59082996
>limit speech for the common good
>let feral Niggers run wild against the common good
Pottery
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>>59080110
I defend your right to say that and hurt my feelings but Google will not.
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Ok, here's the thing kids:
Humans are beings which can not be repaired from extremely traumatic conditions, I guess that could turn out to not be the case in a future where a true AI is a thing because developing that would require us to expand our knowledge about the human by a long margin thus leading to more advanced medical treatments.
Why I'm talking about this? because no matter how much you push physically/mentally a robot with a true AI at any given point, it's date can be easily changed/replaced to a state where the machine wouldn't think something ever happened, the same can't be said about us humans.
That said it is illegal to mess with humans because they can't properly recover like machines can.
I choose this argument because it's solid and doesn't really stir further discussions about what is being human.
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>>59082958
this
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>>59083003
Hey man, do you mind if I use your computer to host a porn streaming service? Give me an ssh account and I'll have it set up by today.

If not, why do you hate free speech?
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>>59082953
>just because you have the right to free speech doesn't mean you can do whatever you want through anyone's service.
lol no, living in a free country gives me that right, doesn't mean there wont be consequences, but at least i have the fucking freedom to do so..

free speach means nothing these days because of cucks like you who think calling someone a nigger makes them a racist, while idiots keep letting stupid shit like this pass. meanwhile inch by inch, revoking everyones ability to speak out against anyone/thing, you eventually realize how boring and awful life can be.
try and deny the holololcaust, see waht happens.

but that's just the holocaust, it'll stop there!
well then there's hatespeach, no one can define it, but it's a law too!
it wont end until you can't tell someone they're pretty, because pretty suddenly means you suck dick.
see where this is going?

>bundle of sticks
changed the meaning, and now you can't say faggot because that's somehow hatespeach..
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>>59080164
>Quinnspiracy.
Literally ex goons who rose to fame by committing some of the earliest versions of structured online harassment.

GOOGLE, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING.

BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF AI RESEARCH AND CROWD RESEARCH AND YOU CANT EVEN DO BASIC RESEARCH
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>>59083034
>Ok, here's the thing kids:
>anime image
disregarded
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>>59081245
This. The rest of the world is connected now which its why the overall web experience is different and frankly shitty. Its not 90 percent American, english, and german anymore
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>>59080054
I don't see how this would damage 4chan, in fact the site barely has anything archived and the media will give us free advertising as long as we keep rustling their shit. The user base is fucking huge too.

Unless Google decides to filter messages through captcha.
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>>59082958
your confusing legality (in which case you're completely correct) with the ethics of presenting a platform as a tool for discussion and then completely silencing one side very quietly with zero transparency.

if you want to ban for whatever go for it, just don't pretend you don't, and don't hide because clause c subsection III in an EULA that takes a law degree to read
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>>59080054
>most evil company on the world right now

that's not Riot Games
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>>59083055
>muh ethics
Oh, /pol/tards care about ethics now huh?
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>>59083034
*our knowledge about the human BRAIN
*it's data

>>59083048
SEL launched when I was a teenager I guess that tells you something.
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>>59083040
Because you're infringing on my freedom to deny you the ability to host your pornsite on my computer.

But I defend your right to host a pornsite on your own computer and publish it to the internet, a public utility.
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>>59083044
>but at least i have the fucking freedom to do so..
and the host of the party has the "fucking" freedom to kick you out of his house, just like hiroshima can ban you from this site for whatever reason he feels like

>cucks like you who think calling someone a nigger makes them a racist
i don't see where this was implied anywhere in my post, and i don't see what race has to do with a debate on free speech in 2017
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>>59080198
>greenberg
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>Google declared war on free speech and 4chan.
I seriously doubt that this has anything to do with 4chan. I find it unlikely that it would be installed here.
4chan doesn't have to conform to mainstream views nor have investors who worry about the public image.
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>>59083078
>Because you're infringing on my freedom to deny you the ability to host your pornsite on my computer.

So if I own a website and you want to post "SJW JOOS LIBKEKS TRUMP MAGA" 1000 times in my comment section, eating up bandwidth and making it unusable for other users, and I then use google's tool to automatically prune your comments, are you not infringing upon my rights by demanding that I allow your "free speech" on my website?
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>>59080085
Hate speech is not free speech.
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>>59083072
not a poltard?

>poltards call for antitrust?
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>>59083048
Anime website you nigger redditor
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>>59083034
I'm sure that if we had enough understanding of the human brain to purposely create a computer replica, we would also be able to easily do that to a human.

Hypnosis is a thing, suggestion is a thing. We can't just a press a button, but our capacity to manipulate tough has grown exponentially these past few years.
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>>59083091
the fact that people lose their careers and lively hood over being called a racist because they called someone a nigger(or any other word which has had its definition redefined) through text.
clearly has nothing to do with a discussion about free speach.
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>>59083122
this, good job on keeping it sober
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>>59083122
Sites making their own rules to delete shitposts and low quality trash isn't the problem
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>>59083040
Interesting strawman. Does this reflect your actual beliefs?
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>How long before this shit is installed on 4chan?
Never. Neither Moot nor Hiroshimoot have ever taken serious steps towards blocking "hateful" comments. It would be trivial to at least auto-ban posters for using racial slurs outside of /pol/, but given that this has never been done as of yet (although /b/ has had some... very interesting word filters used for shits and giggles in the past), it is unlikely that a more comprehensive tool for blocking so called "hate speech" would ever be used. That would require that the administration actually care.
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>>59083091
>and the host of the party has the "fucking" freedom to kick you out of his house, just like hiroshima can ban you from this site for whatever reason he feels like
implying any of those things will be choices when googles done fucking your mouth

protip:
they start raping your ass when they're done with your mouth.
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>>59083123
how is speech free if anything can be labelled hate speech and subsequently denied?
you either have freedom of speech, or you don't.
there's no middle ground here children.
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>>59083150
okay, i get what you mean, let me refine my reply then: what does it have to do with a debate on free speech online, specifically 4chan, a place where basically every controversial word is thrown around every other second? i don't care about race politics, i was just trying to give you a different perspective on a, in this case, race-neutral issue
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>>59083050
>only americans, english and germans are white.

Every single time.
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>>59082996
But it's a valid point
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>>59083146
>hypnosis/psychological treatment
What are you going to do about the cases where the patient doesn't want to tell what happened, what's bothering him/her?
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>>59080054
>artificial intelligence
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>>59083157
It is not a strawman when you're arguing that people shouldn't be allowed to delete content on their websites that they own. You're essentially stating that private individuals have an obligation to host your content in the name of 'free speech', so why would this not extend to other forms of content?
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>>59083170
google fucking your mouth is them practicing their freedom. if you dislike it, you better stop using google services, or sites that google's mouth-fucking will hit.
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>>59083194
t. upset Italian
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>>59083192
i'm not looking at this as a race related issue
it was a hypothetical situation used to convey the point that you don't have freespeech
it was a response to another shitpost that completely missed the point of the posts it was responding to.
go figure.
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>>59083078
The internet isn't a 'public utility', it's a standardized protocol.
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>>59083217
>if you dislike it
i can cry about it on the internet
and there's nothing your sad little ego can do to stop me.
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>>59080550
Someone should make a browser plugin for that.
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>>59083200
Well, suggestion is a thing that does not require consent. It was an example, it's very old knowledge, and we keep discovering even more ways to control the way people think and act. The human brain is nothing more than a computer as far as we can see.

Which coincidentally is why I share the concern of OP, and why even tho I respect Google's and anyone's right to do whatever they want on their site, I think that policing the internet so much can have bad results.
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>>59080054
/pol/ isn't 4chan, newfag.
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>>59083218
/pol/ told me Italians are white because musolini and Hitler liked him.
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>Tfw rap no longer exists online
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>>59080198
>photoshopped semen
Sad thing was, it wasn't photoshop
People actually came on a picture of that fat black "comedian"
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>>59080276
What the fuck do you think he was working on while he's at Google?
He fucking despises 4chan now for shitting on his hopes and dreams of living the NEET life with 4chanbux money
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>>59083293
We're everywhere.
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>>59080276
>>59083373
He got tired of newfags and cancer, can't say I blame him
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>>59080054
>artificial intelligence is now a marketing buzzword for any algo capable of using data in making decisions
I love this meme
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>>59083313
>Italian /pol/ members told me ...
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>>59083011
>Considering humans work a lot like computers made of flesh
Nope, humans are pretty unproductives.
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>/pol/ - satire
>a white supremacy board frequented mostly by nonwhites
>the few actual white supremacists are actually the butt of the joke that is the entire board
>they unironically believe they have actual influence in global politics
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>>59083411
d o n a l d
t r u m p
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>>59083411
could suppliment any race for that desu
black panthers and their "lives matter"
asians shitposting consistently on teh internet to try and convince idiots to commit race crimes
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>>59083395
To be fair, that's what artificial intelligence always meant; that particular use just fell out of fashion for a little bit.
Fuck, even back when Bell Labs was working on "artificial intelligence," every "AI" they made was what today we would just call a program. (Or an """APP""" if you're Microsoft/Apple)
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>>59083194
old /pol/
>anglo-saxon and som enordics == white
neo /pol/
>european == white
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>>59083411
>implying /pol/ is satire
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>>59083441
Are slavs white?
>>
not a free speech issue, it's a private business
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>>59083458
no, sorry Pyotr
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>>59083456
lmao you can't geniunely believe that rampant faggotry can you?


>>59083463
>something that will quickly and easily silence dissent
>isn't a free speach issue.
lmao, sure.
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>>59080054
Make Google products racial slurs.
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>>59083441
>anglo-saxon
Why the anglo-saxons in particular? Why not any other Germanic groups? Why not the Celts? Or the Romans; everyone else takes pride in the Romans, why wouldn't /pol/?
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>>59083499
>Celts
>Romans
>White
top kek
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>>59083405
We are so advanced that we decided we don't like to work. Seems logical enough desu.

>>59083441
Good, because norsecucks didn't invent any of the things /pol/ is proud about, Europe's culture is Mediterranean. And that includes sandniggers and North Africans.
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>>59083463
>preventing people from finding any worldview that isn't what our corporate overlords decide we should have
>not a free speech issue
Sure, anon.
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>>59083463
It's a free speech issue when the same people who own the government are implementing global censorship of dissenting opinions.
>>
sage angloshit threads
@
hide angloshit posts
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>>59083511
I get the Romans, they were pretty brown. But the Celts were white as fuck.
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>>59083492
Even if your feelings are hurt by not being allowed to post offensive comments it's still not a free speech issue. Just don't post offensive comments I guess or find a way around the filters.
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>>59083512
>B-b-but /pol/ told me norway invented western civilization and they were vikings and odin.
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>>59083188
Free speech is misunderstood in burgerland.

If what you say is defamation or a call to violence (call to murder, plant a bomb...), this isn't free speech.

Your freedom stop where the freedom of others stop.

But imo, I think the problem is more that internet is shit for communication and social stuff. People can be asshole without any consequences in their life.
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>>59083458
Nope. Remember impure nordics are snow nigger and slavs are snow apes.
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>>59083514
>>59083522
You still have the right to say offensive things on government property. Free speech has been preserved
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>>59083463
>It's not a free speech issue since it's just a mega corp that's probably more powerful than many governments and not the government doing it
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>>59083216
Ah, so that's what you thought I was arguing. Interesting. Why is that?
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>>59083587
>c-corporations are bad!!!
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>>59083458
absolutely not
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>>59083587
So once a business is large enough they're no longer entitled to freedoms to regulate what goes on in their business?
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>>59083492
>lmao you can't geniunely believe that rampant faggotry can you?
Trust or not, some brazilian /pol/acks start a movement to bring back the slavery.
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>>59083571
>If what you say is defamation or a call to violence (call to murder, plant a bomb...), this isn't free speech.
No one thinks otherwise, though. A statement like "fuck white people" is determined to be perfectly fine under free speech, but "fuck black people" (or any other "minority") is hate speech and must be suppressed despite the clear lack of any infringement upon another's freedom.
People object to hypocrisy, not necessarily the limiting of speech.
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>>59083601
>censorship isn't bad
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>>59083612
What makes slavic? Terry has Irish ancestry, does that make him nonwhite?
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>>59083615
Do you think that power companies should be allowed to just deny people power because they find their opinions to be distasteful?
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>>59083623
>I should be able walk into somebody's restraunt and shout NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER as loud as I can or my free speech is being impeded!!!
give me a break
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>>59083619
I think either of those statements would be shunned but neither of them would be illegal in America.
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>>59083641
Nice strawman
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>>59082864
Solution: Build a four year lifespan into all AIs/
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>corporations applying censorship is good
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>>59083618
but billionaire corporations using their software to control people, is unfeasible...
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>>59083619
I think either of those statements would be shunned but neither of them would be illegal in America.

>>59083640
I think that's actually highly illegal, power companies are government regulated monopolies, they cannot just cut someone's power without a good reason.
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>>59083667
Ancap paradise.
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>>59083529
>censoring the masses opinions
>has nothing to do with freedom of speech
jeez, it's like half the shitposters here could save everyone some time by reading the thread before deciding to shitpost in it.
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>>59083615
>just because it's a government it shouldn't be able to silence dissidents
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>>59083641
That's a shitty strawman, but you should be able to do that. What about yelling an offensive word is so heinous that your fundamental rights as a sapient being should be revoked?
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>>59083694
this guy gets it.

a government for the people, by the people, should NEVER be trying to silence the people.
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>>59083690
Give me ssh access to your computer so I can spam it with 2000 GB of 'NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGER' in a text file.

Oh, what's that? You won't do that? Why do you hate free speech? Why are you trying to censor people?
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>>59083667
Well censorship exists for a reason. When a government censors something it's definitely bad but private companies censoring something is hard to really argue about. Private companies only do it because of the marketplace says that's the best course of action, they don't do it because they want to.
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>>59083439
if you consider what programs do the majority of them would be considered artificial intelligence because the definition has become so loose.
Academia had a tighter definition to AI that had to do with replicating human thought with the limiting means of a computer but like I said, these days it's just anything that makes decisions from large datastreams. That's too loose of a definition of AI since it falls into the broader definition of general programs.

It's exactly like you said, by that definition my SoC board has AI capabilities and so does a large majority of """""apps"""""""". It's what happens when marketing gets a hold of a concept and makes it a buzzword
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>if i can't call everyone a cuck, post anime nazi toads and suck the weenie of some old fat orange then you are a cuck
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>>59083641
I think a more accurate comparison is

>I should be able to say "nigger" within the boundaries of the conversation i'm having with the people on my table

If there is a comment section on a news article, and people are encouraged to discuss it, then it is perfectly fine for someone to give their opinion, even if it's distasteful.
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>>59083721
>anime picture post with green arrow phrase
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>>59083709
>google is a single personal computer and not countless greedy people and computers and websites running their code
hurr durr it'll censor out 90% of the internet, but is not about censoring free speech because they're a single entity!!!!

just turn merikah into china overnight why don't ya?

imagine if america starts killing off their minorities, then used some fantastic new software to block out any outcry about these atrocities.

because the most massive and powerful countries, would never ever try to control their population or the knowledge that people have access too
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>>59083709
Because in that situation you would be infringing upon my rights.
No one is infringing upon anyone else's rights when Google censors them.
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>>59083749
Comments sections aren't personal conversations because the resources used to run comments sections are owned by individuals, i.e. it costs quantifiable server space and bandwidth (therefore money) to host your comments.

Also, a restaurant can ask you to leave for saying nigger at your table just like they can not let you in for being dressed like a bum.
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The CIA wants more power, that's why they're supporting this so they can kill all dissenters.
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>>59083767
this moron can't be convinced through common sense anon
you have to rabble on about random bullshit and use analogies to get it through his fascist brain how fucked up censoring 90% of the internet is.
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>>59080054
Do you even free speech?
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>>59083767
Google isn't censoring anybody, they released a tool that allows moderators and system admins to use machine learning to classify text as toxic/abusive.

If you spam my website's comment section with 2000 GB of 'niggerniggernigger', should I not be allowed to delete that because it would be censoring your "free speech"
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>>59083807
Everyone agrees obvious low quality shitposts should be deleted, but a machine shouldn't do it.
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>>59083807
>provides tools for mass censorship
>BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH CENSORING!!!!!!
this is a tool that will be used to further totalitarian regimes power, and is a step towards bringing such shithole lifestyles closer to home.
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>>59083775
If the site has expended resources to create a comment section (which a lot of the time is not hosted by the site, but it's actually a third party service) then it should let it be used as intended.

If they only want a certain kind of opinions or comments being in there, they should be upfront about it, starting by not saying it's a section to discuss the article.

And I don't know, can they really if you aren't being loud? If in the US companies were given the right to operate in whatever manner they pleased then I could see that, but as far as i'm aware they aren't. Hence why that whole wedding cake thing was a big deal a few years ago.
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>>59083615
And when the company becomes the government?
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>>59083828
>a machine shouldn't do it.
Oh, so a system admin should type 2000 mysql delete queries by hand? Your argument is absurd on its face.
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>>59083839
>a few years ago
You sweet, naive anon. It's still a huge thing in some areas. There's continuous fights in state legislatures about that very issue.
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>>59083839
even then
what the fuck do the owners care what people post in the comments?
this is like malware all over again.

>here's anti malware software, youdon't need it. but we're going to produce and release malware so you do need it
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>>59083868
How many shitty comments does your shitty website get?
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>>59083839
Usually businesses in the States are free to refuse service to whoever they please; it only becomes problematic when the business owner starts being vocal about the stupid reasons they decide to reject service.
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>>59083835
>slippery slope
not an argument
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>>59083865
My view is that any entity working on behalf of the government has to abide by the constitution or whatever laws of the land there might be.
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>>59083894
>what the fuck do the owners care what people post in the comments?

Gee, maybe they don't want to scare advertisers away by allowing abusive commenters to take over the website (see: /pol/)
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>>59083906
We're talking about the occasion where there's 2000 comments spammed of 'NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER'

Do you think that people should be allowed to "censor" such posts?
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>>59083928
You are literally defending censorship now because massive corporations might find it distasteful.
I can't tell whether or not you're just falseflagging.
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>>59083928
lol what about /pol?
4chan has been under constant raid from tumblrinas and ponyfaggots for practically a decade now.
spammers and shitposters suck.
advertisements and advertisers suck more
and stupid sacks of shit producing the means to silence an entire nation, words don't describe how suck this is.
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>>59083953
Protip: it's not just massive corporations that make money from things like adwords, there's small business owners and mid-sized companies that do too.
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>>59083946
i think they should just stop reading it if it bothers them.
>doesn't have a block user function for shitposting accounts
there are already far better methods for screening out the cancerous fucksticks.
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>>59083946
If a site is getting flooded with spam it should be deleted.
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>>59083995
>4chan should be deleted
delet thss
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>>59083946
That doesn't happen tho. Someone just doing that is clearly spamming, but disregarding an entire comment just because the language used in it is inappropriate or because it has a few "bad words" in it isn't a way to promote healthy discussion.

Some people have dirty mouths, doesn't mean they can't think or that their opinions will always be shit.
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>>59083985
Why waste time when a ML tool like the one described in OP flags potentially abusive posts and passes them onto an admin for moderation or pending approval?
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>>59084011
you're not wasting any time when the whiney little bitches who want the internet to be their safespace, are the ones responsible for keeping the internet their safespace.

why would you take that option of which posts to view/hide posts away from the user?
fucking stupid.
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>>59084010
>disregarding an entire comment just because the language used in it is inappropriate or because it has a few "bad words" in it isn't a way to promote healthy discussion.
There's a difference between using a 'few bad words' and being intentionally toxic and arguing in bad faith.
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>>59084034
>why would you take that option of which posts to view/hide posts away from the user?
Having to hide every abusive/toxic user on a site is wasting time when there's a ML tool that can do it server side.
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>>59080054
Reminder that Eric Shit has attended Bilderberg Group conferences every single year since 2011.
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>>59084011
>Why waste time when a ML tool like the one described in OP flags potentially abusive posts and passes them onto an admin for moderation or pending approval?
kind of like any whiney little bitch user who cries about some post hurting their feelings can do so on their own
without some ai cataloging and auto destroying posts that would otherwise do some good.
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>>59084035
Do you seriously believe that an algorithm will be able to make the qualitative distinction required to make that call?
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>>59084035
and you're going to figure out what the persons motives for their post were, how?
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>>59084074
No, but it flags it and passes it onto human moderators, which saves valuable man hours.
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>>59084060
>is wasting time
>stripping your userbase of their voice
>not even regulating the ones you strip
what a waste of time to set up, considering nobody will be able to use it.

would take no time at all if the wimps would just report/filter any users/posts they don't like.
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>>59084035
Truth, but it's not always easy to tell the 2 apart, especially when it comes to sensible topics.
Some people take some matters personal, and if they feel threatened it's natural that they might get aggressive. This happens even when discussing things face to face.

And the internet adds yet another problem; Because sometimes it's hard to tell the tone people are using, and depending on what your mood is or how you take it, some people might get offended by a comment that was never meant to be offensive.
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>>59084113
>muh voice to call people cucks if i don't like them
Give it a break dude.
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>>59084093
>passes it onto human moderators
becuase this isn't costly and already happening without the spending of big bux on uncle sams silencer?
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>>59083256
document.body.innerHTML = document.body.innerHTML.replace(/nigger/gi, 'Google');
paste that into greasemonkey
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>>59084156
nah, i enjoy taking the easy bait and calling out the sacks of shit for being sacks of shit.
the only reason to be pro censorship is already ITT, you should read it if you don't realize how shutting someone up doesn't make you a worthless sack of shit
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>>59083188
>how is speech free if anything can be labelled hate speech
Because that is not how it works? Hate speech is well-defined. You've been believing right-wing rhetoric attempting to muddy the waters.
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>>59084158
>becuase this isn't costly and already happening without the spending of big bux on uncle sams silencer?
It is costly, why do you think Google made the tool? It automates a lot of the process and flags 'toxic' comments for moderator review, which saves moderator time and thus cuts cost.
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>>59084182
>which saves moderator time and thus cuts cost.
no, it saves random users from having to flag down shit posts, without removing the most costly (moderators) problem, which is removal of unsatisfactory shitposts.

hell these idiots would actually save money by allowing shitposts to sit instead of paying some idiot to remove them all day.
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>>59084176
Why won't you let me ssh into your computer so I can put 2000 GB of 'NIGGERNIGGER' in a .txt file?

Why are you censoring me and trying to restrict my free speech?
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>>59084226
>hell these idiots would actually save money by allowing shitposts to sit
Not when it costs advertising deals, no.
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>>59084230
>can't even generate a new counterarguement, has to repeat himself endlessly
lmao, i'd bully you irl tbqh.
too much fun to laugh at to resist calling you a little bitch as you repeatedly cry "sorry sir, sorry sir"
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>>59084215
>if you respond to your enemies, they win
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>>59084262
Give me an ssh account faggot, practice what you preach.
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>>59084248
>advertisers give a fuck about what's being discussed
they don't give a fuck, hell they don't even care if the ads are catered towards these individuals.
or did you believe the horse shit about "we're spying on you, but it's for advertisements only and you're anonymous!"

also if you have to relly on advertisers for revenue you need a new business.
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>>59084288
>practice waht you preach
notice how i'm not removing the link from your posts as i point out what a little bitch you are repeatedly?
that's me not censoring you to the best of my ability. :^)
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>>59084302
Advertisers don't want their brand next to neo nazi comments, of course they give a shit about what contexts their ads are shown in.

>also if you have to relly on advertisers for revenue you need a new business.
>he posts as he cries about Google having too much power
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>>59084320
Give me ssh info or you're restricting my right to free speech :^)
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>>59084323
as if they're liable or at all accountable for the comments on the webpage
is google suddenly losing business because it links to child porn, gore, genuine snuff films, without much search effort mind you.

>>59084332
i'd love to see where i said hosting these comments is a right. please, do link me to this stupid arguement you're clinging too
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>>59084374
>if you dont let me post comments on your site you're censoring me!!!
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>>59084323
>also if you have to relly on advertisers for revenue you need a new business.
>he posts as he cries about Google having too much power
yea, cause investment bankers which propped up a shitty company who only existed to patent the most simplistic search engine, which in turn has proven how shit it is time and time again

is going to new lows by trying to censor the shit people say on the internet itself.

yeah, you're fucking right i'm going to complain about shitty people having more power than they should while trying to get an infinite amount.

>>59084389
lmao where did anyone say that you stupid fuck?
oh right nowhere did anyone say it, because you have no ground to back this thing besides the fact that you're a greedy sack of shit.
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>>59084176
>where did anyone say that
see
>>59084431
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It's another episode of the "hate speech is free speech too" edgy teenagers
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>>59084431
>cause investment bankers which propped up a shitty company who only existed to patent the most simplistic search engine,
You're stupid and you have no idea what you're talking about. Majority of Google's revenue is from advertising.
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>>59084447
>how can we hold people accountable for shit someone else did, but they like something i don't like, so i want to imprison them too
hate speech laws are bullshit and hold no real merit in any rational mind.

>>59084465
and what were they before they became a fortune 500 company?
it's okay, i'll wait for you to google it.
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>>59084496
>durr a company was a startup once therefore it's not a successful and profitable business!
You really have no idea how finance, economics or IB works huh?
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>>59084447
Under US law there's no such thing as hate speech. Hate speech laws run counter to free speech, as long as they exist a country does not have free speech.
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>>59084550
you really have a terrible time trying to coherently comprehend the words you're reading .
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>>59084577
You stated that "if your business relies on advertising you need a new business" in >>59084302

In >>59084323 I told it was funny that you'd say that considering you are complaining about how powerful/successful Google is that they can "censor" people

You said that Google is propped by investment bankers in >>59084431

I told you that Google makes the majority of their cash from advertising in >>59084465
(they are also extremely profitable btw)

You said that "yeah but they were a startup once so it doesnt count!!!!" in >>59084496

You're retarded.
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>>59084637
literally every interpretation of other anons shitposts are incorrect
go figure, the fascist has a fail brain.
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Guise, we need a new thread. This is way too important not to discuss it more.
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>>59084885
It isn't important and it isn't /g/-related, dumb animuposter.
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>>59084940
why are you bashing anime on an anime site? and this is /g/ related.
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>>59083253
and i can cry about you misunderstanding free speech, there's nothing your sad little ego can do to stop me
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>>59085136
this sadlittle ego can expose how stiffling and silencing and even erasing someones voice, is actually contradictive to free speach entirely.
but ey, i'm free to tell idiots how it be, just like idiots are free to ignore how it b
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>>59084496
>>59084561
>EVERYTHING IS FREE SPEECH!!!!11
lolno
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>>59085260
corrupt governments are going to do whatever they want, like enact bullshit laws for sacks of shit in power.
anyone who isn't a batshit stupid faggot, can realize how this "hatespeach" horseshit laws are clearly against dissident hating sacks of shit
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>>59085304
>clearly against dissident hating sacks of shit
FOR dissident
strike against from the record.
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>>59085304
Because government using hate speech for power has never happened, right?
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>>59085345
nope. never.
how could a democratically elected government EVER create a fascist state?
pfft, not on this world. not with all these amazing people in america.
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