>omg Intel is finished >lower prices $20 >AMD is finished

The brand doesn't matter. If a unit of performance becomes cheaper, that's good.

If you bought a 2500K in 2011 you wouldn't have a reason to buy any newer Intel CPUs let alone Ryzen.

>>59053748
This desu.

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does it include a delidding tool?

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>>59053707
And why they're lowering the price?

>>59053758
4 cores is not enough

>>59053707
Intel can't compete with overclocking across all CPUs and on mid range chipset boards

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>>59053707
I didn't even want a pajeet chip in the first place. I just don't want to pay jew prices.

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>>59054125
Because they are putting the consumer first, obviously.

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>>59054141
for what exactly

>>59054192
it can
but its not going to do that when it can squeeze another $50 outta you

>>59054469
Dickwaving.

>be me
>bought an 8350 at release and OC'd it to 4.7 no issue
>noctua beast cooling it
>friends and brother bought an i5 4k series later
>my computer still beast moding it
>they're already considering i7's and I'm just now looking at upgrades (ryzen)

>>59053707
>Intel lowers price
>people flock to Intel
>amd crashes and died
>Intel raises price
>people cry about monopoly and stagnation

>>59053758
Is this bait? Literary a old ass shit FX series chip is better.

>>59053707
>ebay cashback
you literally have to wait 3 months for that thing to cash out and you only get to use it on ebay. it's over ryzen is finished!

also 205 for an i5 is pretty standard, microcenter still has it for less.

>>59053758
>If you bought a 2500K in 2011 you wouldn't have a reason to buy any newer Intel CPUs let alone Ryzen.

Unless, of course, you would like to play the latest games without the CPU bottlenecking the shit out of your rig.

>>59054642
>AMD releases a new chip
>no iTX
>no nATX
>stock coolers only lol
>no sample Motherboards to anyone
>release fake benchmarks to garner hype
>/g/ falls for it again
Nothing new. I will be getting Intel because they actually cater to my needs.

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Holy shit, intel must be sweating bullets right now.

>>59054686
AMD might not release the X300 chip for ITX boards until APUs are out, but absolute madman board companies are jamming X370s onto ITX boards.

>>59054642
x86 development was always expensive. Monopoly will be good enough without a meme inc. like via and amd.

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>>59054686
>stock coolers only lol
As an A10-7870K running on the stock heatsink owner this made me jej.

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>>59053707
>>59054686
>>59054726

>>59053707
>intel has lowered prices

Zen confirmed for GOAT x86 CPU arch

>>59053758
Wot if you want more than one computer??!?? ?

>>59054753
And like a goat, Intel will fuck it like a swarthy arab.

>>59054909
t. pajeet

>>59053707
>AMD forces Intel to lower their prices
>AMD is still the bad guy somehow...
You guys should praise AMD, no matter which CPU you buy.

I'm happy there is finally some competition. I just wish AMD could make releases like this more often instead of every couple years.

>>59055150
Intel hasn't done anything new since sandy and before that is was the same since core

>>59055116
Who are you quoting?

>>59055150
I can only agree. I welcome AMD's new CPU's and I hope Vega wont disappoint either. All it does it lowering prices and how can you be against that?

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>>59054251
>intel
>putting the consumer first

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>>59055182
GPU got better up to Broadwell

>TFW forced to get shitty GPU if you don't want a new CPU without a housefire
This is why we need Ryzen

>>59055381
Why does this guy have all of these VHS tapes?

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>>59055444
He is an autist.

>be me
>2500k in 2011
>2015 games get cpu bottlenecked
>Oc to 4.8ghz
>Bottleneck gone.

>>59055381
AMDs and Intel's obligation is to the shareholder first and foremost.

>>59055646
I didn't know this was /biz/
Also, shareholders first mentality will just fuck you up, they're investors not engineers. EA tried that approach and paid dearly.

>be me
>6600k
>water cooled
>never overclocked

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>>59055444
do you not collect them

>>59055645
Cool. Sandy Bridge i7s are solid CPUs. It's just that anything past Haswell is turbo diminishing returns.

>>59053748
Yeah right, buy a high-performance comparatively cheaper hdd from seagate and then when it burns in 3 days tell me again that only performance tests are relevant

>tfw still use a laptop from 2010 as my main driver
>tfw Arrandale is still viable in the modern day
i5 M520's report in
>still getting Ryzen after all the hype dies down, come May.

>>59054509
I guess he meant that Intel's products can't compete with AMD's given Intel's prices

Why are you defending your jew overlords?
>b-but they can

>>59055888
The pizza boxes are your jalopy SNESes right?

>>59055186
>le ebin greentext is quoting meme
When did you start browsing /g/? Yesterday?

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>people actually think AMD will quadruple their market share
>people think AMD isn't a couple years away from bankruptcy

>>59056238
>>people actually think AMD will quadruple their market share
Nobody said that, shit like this takes time and intel still has a chance to recover with coffee lake.

>>people think AMD isn't a couple years away from bankruptcy
Zen turned out to be a huge success and the most important people (ie OEMs) are going to suck AMD's cock dry until intel has something to compete with ryzen.

So at worst AMD won't go bankrupt.

>>59055968
you are a moron. That scenario has never happened.

>>59054770
you're still limited to a single 2500k. You gotta cut it into halves or quarters.

>>59055968
>missing the point this hard

>>59054692
Probably not as evidenced by their drip feed and sub-stepping of CPU gens due to lack of competition. Why would they release their best product when they can milk people for small upgrades?

They've just been waiting for AMD to make their move. They'll respond by lowering prices as necessary and releasing product marginally better than AMD a premium price and the cycle will continue.

>>59056670
>They'll respond by lowering prices as necessary
You realize this will makr them lose massive amounts of consumer trust, right?

>and releasing product marginally better than AMD a premium price and the cycle will continue.
doubt it, coffee lake is most likely going to be another 5% IPC improvement.

>>59056717
>You realize this will makr them lose massive amounts of consumer trust, right?

Nah, all they would need to do is offer more frequent sales and bundles.

>doubt it, coffee lake is most likely going to be another 5% IPC improvement.

And really, that's probably all they would need. They're not going to fully blow their load, it's not profitable to do so and that's the whole point.

>>59053758
Or today, they are 100 dollars. With that CPU and a GTX 1060 you can run anything at 1080p 60fps perfectly. More res than that is for faggots.

>>59054670
Better at what? General tasks? Normalfag, those FX pieces of crap don't work well for anything requiring good single threaded performance.

>>59054677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Daffeyn3c

Now kys asap please

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>>59054620
but his CPU has been significantly faster this entire time, not sure what your point is
>people justifying their purchase of bulldozer
jesus christ this board has gone to shit

>>59054732
do you do nothign but shitpost about your mediocre cpu? i've seen you in 3 different threads already

>>59056764
R7 1700 is ~$300, has about twice the performance of an i7-7700K, and comes with a non-shit stock cooler, you massive cuck.

>>59056780
Do I do what?

>>59056764

>jewtel already dropping this to 300 bucks

they shook

>>59056796
filtered

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>>59054141
>More cores=better performance
Unless you're doing a lot of calculations, no

>>59056809
thanks

>>59056803
Micro Center always has great deals.

>>59056818
>only the sjw browser and ARMA 3 exist
k

>>59056741
The smart way to compete in the lower price bracket that amd seems to be smashing would be to offer retailers rebates on the condition that Intel's chips are sold cheaper/on sale

However while consumers aren't perfectly intelligent they will still ask the question "why were Intel CPUs so expensive/why are they cheap now?"

The only conclusion is because there's better competition now, which just exposes their price gouging of a captive market

People will lose faith if Intel drop their prices suddenly

It would be interesting to know what the average buyer of a CPU represents to them, most large retailers look at lifetime consumer spending when they assess how to manage their brand image

why so much anti-Indian hate on this fucking board?

don't you ever get tired of being racist?

>>59056771
The i5's are already showing their irrelevancy because they do more than just run a single game, like me. my 8350 is curb stomping their i5's when it comes to multiple tasks, and as somebody who uses multiple monitors and is usually doing more than one thing, that was the point of buying it. Their CPU's are older than mine, but if they wanna game with me they have to lower their settings in game because of skype, and maybe running their own music. my $200 8350 from release day (which was discounted because Fry's electronics was doing a deal with the CPU and motherboard) is still doing well, but I want something more myself, and holding onto the CPU that hasn't given me a single issue this long means I've saved far more money for an upgrade than my friends have.

>>59056862
I meant their CPUs are newer than mine, dunno how I typed older.

>>59056831
Explain you AyyEcksDee fanboy shill

>>59056907
Chrome can make use of multiple CPU threads thus improving performance on a 8-core ryzen vs 4-core i7 and many modern games can also make use of multiple CPU threads also resulting in improved performance.

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>>59054677
>vidya
>rig
>>>/v/

>>59056945
>performance
>web browser

Do tell

>>59056976
>anime
>shitposting
>>>/a/

>>59053707
>i7-6700K
>270 USD
>costs 370 in EU
FUCKING JUDEN

>>59055444

The better question is why do you not?

>>59057023
/g/ is full of niggas who have 1000's of tabs open and 100s of extensions. They've never heard of bookmarks.

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>>59056790
>non-shit stock cooler
Why do AMD fans care so much about stock coolers???

A $20 212 preforms better than a stock cooler.
I don't see why anyone would use a noisy hot stock cooler.

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>>59057248
why spend even more money on something that's potentially worse? it's the value equation.

>>59057248
Because AMD stock coolers are based now.

>>59054732 is what I get with the stock cooler I got with my A10-7870K APU. Literally have 0 reason to buy an after market cooler.

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>>59057248
>A $20 212 preforms better than a stock cooler.
Not anymore.

>>59057270
>>59057287
>>59057286
Kek, AMD fans really care about stock coolers.
So the stock cooler works like a 212 did.
Why are you guys excited again?

The minute you try to overclock, you will go with a better cooler.

>>59057453
>The minute you try to overclock, you will go with a better cooler.
WRONG. I was able to get my A10 to 4.2 GHz (albeit at 1.4v) and temps stayed at 60C. I could probably push my A10 to 4.6GHz with this stock cooler but I like the whisper quiet performance of 3.8GHz on it.

>>59057224
>full of niggas who have 1000's of tabs open
>They've never heard of bookmarks.
This bothers me. It's fucking retarded. How the hell did they even manage to produce this kind of workflow.

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>>59053707
>microcenter the only ones with this kind of pricing
>Does this quite often
>"HAHA, GOT YOU PAJEETS, MORE JEW DICKS FOR ME!"

/g/ee, I wonder who could be behind this post.

And AMD processors still have the advantage because AMD includes all instruction set extensions on the processors while Intel strictly limits particular features to specific tiers. You can also mix overclocking with virtualization

>>59056752
doom is not a good bench for CPU dependence

try the witcher 3 in novigrad, battlefield 1, or forza horizon 3

you'll see roughly 30-40% IPC improvement going from sandy bridge to skylake

>>59057453
>The minute you try to overclock, you will go with a better cooler.

That's only cause Intel uses cheap TIM, so the heat transfer between the IHS and the die is so bad that you need extreme cooling to keep the chip at low temps. The extreme line chips (that used soldered IHS) get better temps with a stock cooler than a 7700k with a 212 evo.

If you delid and apply liquid metal TIM, you can get way lower temps. My 3570k maxes at 60C that way with a 212 evo at 4ghz.

>>59057592
We all knew that the moment we looked at the pic and saw results from ebay. We're just here to shitpost and roll for dubs while arguing over the better topic of stock processor cooling.

>>59056741
you're an idiot.

it is in every IC designer's best interest to get every possible ounce of performance out of the silicon RIGHT NOW because more performance in the same TDP means you can put your chip in an ever-smaller device with more battery power. Forget about competing with AMD, Intel is selling chips now by putting them in laptops and tablets and saying "check it out, the battery lasts an entire day." The more hours they can tack on to that battery life, the more chips they're going to sell. Desktop is not a major revenue stream and the fact that you think Intel is basing their marketing strategy on desktop shows that you're completely out of touch. The only reason AMD or Intel will ever maintain their desktop lines is desktop users happen to want more or less the same thing as people running servers want. And again, Intel can sell more chips to datacenters if they can increase performance while maintaining or lowering power usage.

Intel, AMD, Nvidia, none of them will ever sit on an IC design because that's not how the IC marketplace works and it's never worked like that.

>>59057849
It's almost as if there are different markets, you dipshit.

I swear, /g/ is full of the most retarded autists the planet has ever seen.

>>59054677
What if Im a consolefag that wants to move to pc and only play at 60fps at 1080p?

would that leaves enough processing power to handle some of the stuff that would have been multithreaded?

i recently got an i5 7600k that im likely going to pair with a GTX1070 (should be more relevant over time than a 1060), because AMD took their sweet ass time, but i dont think i even need an i7 or ryzen for gaming.

>>59057592
over newyears they were selling i5 6600ks for $165.

>>59053707
Is there any reason to get the 7700k over the 6700k?

Seeing as that I can save 50 bucks...

>>59057973
yes, i pointed out the three major markets that Intel serves; mobile, desktop, and server. My first point was that the desktop is largely irrelevant to Intel these days. My followup point was that IC designers have never held back designs while they wait to see what the competition has. The only rumored response we've heard about from the Intel camp to Ryzen is some slightly higher clocked SKUs. That's it. Not a new product, but more segmentation to give consumers more options, but not necessarily better ones.

>>59058280
>talking about desktop CPUs
>butt in, calling people idiots citing mobile market as an example

Grade A autism, kiddo.

>>59058326
having a reasoned argument isn't autism. it also isn't autism when you say something retarded and someone says that you're retarded. it's retardation, you see. i hope you've learned something. my cough syrup is kicking in. goodnight.

>>59058167
no, 7000s are backwards progress

>>59053707
Uhhh, this is the entire point of why anyone wants AMD to compete. It means 7600k will actually drop below $200

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>>59058043
>1070
>wanna play @1080p
why are you wasting your money?

>>59058407
How?

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>>59058537

>>59055968
>HDD=/=CPU

>>59058640
GTX 1080 owner here.
A 1080 wasn't overkill for 1080p
Running 4x+ msaa ex. is very demanding.

>>59058668
Shitty thermal material under the IHS while having worst TDP

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>>59057558
>workflow

>/g/
>work

>>59058880
Hmm okay cause I'm building a com and my choice was the 7700k but since the 6700k is like 50 dollars cheaper and better I think ill opt for that instead. Do you think it will get any cheaper then $300 in the next month or so? Or should i snag now?

>>59058936
Most likely it won't get cheaper, if it makes you fell any better I got a 4690k even when Skylake was out in full force just because they kept price gouging on skylake. Just get whatever is cheaper kabylake is mostly just skylake with higher clocks, unless there is some feature you need in kabylake its not worth the extra $

>>59055991
I ran a 540M until last year. It was great that it lasted that long (over 6 years,) but it did eventually get annoying and I certainly noticed the difference when I went to skylake.

>>59056860
shut up Pajeet

>>59056862
>my 8350 is curb stomping their i5's when it comes to multiple tasks
hahahaha no
the fact that it compiles gentoo 30 seconds faster is irrelevant in the real world, get over yourself

>>59054094
only needed for memelake

>>59053758
3570k at 4.4GHz here, you're full of shit. I'm definitely upgrading to Zen this year. My needs back then were only gaymes, but I also compile, encode, and have some VMs now. Extra bonus in that AMD won't lock me out of virtualization goodies. Intel can fuck off, they are too lax.

>>59054733
I'll take my 6 instruction operands thank you.

How much can I over clock a 6700k with a 212 evo?

>>59060604
Before or after delidding?

>>59060611
Before.

>>59053707
>implying I won't buy AMD anyway
Intel doesn't deserve my money and they don't deserve yours either.

>>59060617
Not by much. Still better than KBL.