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I have an x220 I use for school. Should I get a T430?
It looks really nice.

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>>59051769
I have both, I say no

the T430 feels more comfortable to me personally, especially if you're using it as your main PC. The iGPU in ivy bridge is also much better than sandy bridge.

Thing is, x220 has portability that just can't be beat, and if you're using it for school, I say keep it. I actually bought my x220 for that reason there.

I use my t430 has a desktop though. Pic related, just took this for you :^)

I got a x220T(i5, now with 16gb ram) a few months ago just because got it for cheap ($100usd) but I hardly use the tablet features, should I try and sell it to buy a x220? or x230?

Also, what's the best O.S. for the x220T? I can't get more than 2h in linux even with TLP while in Windows I got at least 4h but I don't know if I'm just doing something wrong.

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>>59051878
Thanks anon. You are actually making me want to have one more.
After getting my first thinkpad, seeing other have ones really makes me want to have another one. I can't explain why...
Anyway, I'd really like to have one to leave in my room (carry occasionally) so I could play some old games I can't play on my x220.

>>59052194
If you're looking to have one to act as a desktop or just stay solely in your room, then I say go for it

I was initially using the T430 for everything and loved it, but it was a pain in the ass to have to be plugging everything in and out all the time when I wanted to move around, then go back to my desk

It is more efficient to do just what you described in my opinion, and what I love about these machines is that they are so cheap now that it isn't impractical to have more than one

I even sold my desktop when I bought my first thinkpad (t430), I wish I had known about business laptops years ago, it would have saved me from buying consumer-tier computers

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>>59052417
>it was a pain in the ass to have to be plugging everything in and out all the time

>>59051878
>>59052417
How do you sync your stuff between the two?

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how secure is your thinkpad?

is your drive encrypted?

do you have a tpm chip?

bios locked?

lojack or computrace enabled?

secure boot?

and does your thinkpad even leave your desk?

>>59051769
If you're going to get anything, get a W520/W530. Worth having just for the screen. I have one that pretty much just sits on a desk all the time and love it. Great to have what is basically a portable desktop, and I still have my X200 as a travel computer. I would say the T4xx does not have enough of a feature upgrade to be worth owning if you already have an X series.

Sure you COULD just get a docking station for the X series and buy a nice external monitor, keyboard and mouse, but by the time you do all that, you are getting close to the price of some lower end W series configurations.

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>T420 doesn't support 1080
>max is 1600x900
>gamut is 40% srgb, even worse contrast
>and it requires a hd+ cable fuckery

>t/w 510/520 supports the best tn panel ever created, 95% Adobe RGB, well over srgb coverage
>not even that much over the t420, like $30 more at most
>comes with free dGPU

>>59053202
Exactly.

How can you be on /g/ and not have a dock?
I have 3.

>>59054112
>is your drive encrypted?

I use the OPAL 2.0 SSD that came with my T460p.

Fairly sure it has NSA backdoors.
But it's so comfy to use, even stays unlocked after a reboot.

>>59054158
I believe the screens in the W510 and W520 are actually 95% of sRGB, and a much smaller percentage of Adobe RGB obviously. And while the larger T series sometimes got this panel, it would also sometimes have other panels that were worse. Not to mention a W series will easily run $100 more than a T420. All that aside I agree with your sentiment, the screens on the 14" T series have been completely intolerable from the T420 onwards. The old 16:10 ones were a bit better.

>>59054158
T420 has a 158:1 contrast ratio. It's total utter shit. Some of the worst you can possibly find.

T520 needs to be the go to memepad

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>>59054354
B156HW01 V4

>>59054158
>>59054354
>>59054392

>arguing which turd stinks the least.

>>59054520
The v4 panel is actually usable by modern standards. It's the first time I'm using a thinkpad and not wanting to kill myself from the awful screen.

I'm a little disappointed I have to wait until June to get a 5th gen X1 Carbon with a WQHD screen.

so tpg, is the x61s still a capable thinkpad? Can it sustain windows 8.1 or 10? can it handle 1080p youtube and facebook under linux?

>>59051976i
>>59052417
>act as a desktop
Your average T430 won't act as a desktop. You're much better off getting a W530 if you want a somewhat-portable """desktop replacement.""" The 170W power adaptor is cumbersome compared to smaller adaptors. There are mods you can do to trick the W530 into accepting other chargers, but it's easier to just make a little bit of room in your bag.

A near-top spec W530 can be had for the price of 2 decent T430s, and is worth it in almost every way imaginable. Get the FHD.

The T440 with trackpoint buttons makes much more sense, the T430 was the Chevy Cavalier of it's generation. The goal was to bring attractive pricing to enterprise buyers. The W530 was a "professional" machine, and had options that should have been afforded to the "bread and butter" T430.

T430s are cheap, and they are built well. But they are utility laptops in every sense but actually using them. You will desire a better display for uses other than spreadsheets. You can swap certain displays, which may or may not suit your technical ambitions.

Go for the X230 though. There is no reason not to. Even with the 7 row keyboard, there is no one 7-row keyboard. For the X220 there are 3 FRUs:
45N2071 - Alps
45N2141 - Chicony
45N2211 - NMB

The X220 was not a high point for typing quality anyhow. If you are that convinced that you personally need a 7-row, you can swap one and deal with two or so function keys not working. Why would you want to though? The backlit keyboard will be appreciated by 99% of users. The numbers on mine are 0C02034/04X1353, personally my favorite chiclet keyboard. Compared to 7-row keyboards of Thinkpads past, you aren't getting a great keyboard on the X220 anyhow.

Also, the X230 took care of IPS burn-in issues, the tablet model hinges are stronger, and you get better battery life.

Whereas both are widely available, you would have to have a specific reason to actively choose the X220 over the X230.

>>59054392
No reason not to go W530.

>>59054158
you are right I dont even know why people buy the t420 over the t520. If you are worried about portability buy an x220...

>>59054579
this so much

>>59055774
>>59055774
I guess the only thing that I'm wondering is durability/build quality between x220/30.

I guess I should get the x230 anyways, what's the best important to look up to?

430s best pad

>>59056296
its shit

>>59054579
I agree, but there have been excellent displays on other Thinkpads, back to the A series.

>>59056296
T430s is almost unexcusable for a "best pad." You are much better off going T440 or even X1 Carbon at that.

>>59056256
>what's the best important to look up to?

T400 has drain holes like X220 right?

>>59056954
All T series Thinkpads have drain holes.

How good is the screen on an X-series tablet?
Can you draw on it?
Can you play osu on it?

>>59057274
Great, im going to buy one i guess.
Let me see if i forgot to ask something to the seller.

>No BIOS password confirmation
>Speccy screenshot
>SMART data of the 160GB HDD
>MTM

>>59057314
Ask about Computrace. If it's activated, don't buy. Getting it deactivated is a pain in the ass. Concerning the HDD, swap it with an SSD. I have a T400 with a 160GB HDD and the performance is really not great at all.

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Just bought a w530 for £420, good?
>i7-3740QM 2,7GHz 8Gb 128GB SSD W7 15,6 1920x1080 K1000

>friends dad has t430
>wants $130 for it
>i5 3320m
>8gbs of ram
>320gb HD
I want to buy it and use it as a linux machine.
I've ever had a thinkpad or used linux, should i buy it?

>>59057641
1600*900? what battery life?
I'd try to talk it down to 100

>>59057622
Nobody should ever pay over $250 for a thinkpad.

>>59057641
Go for it if you meant never.

>>59057685
only 1366x768
i already talked him down from $160
>>59057692
ye i meant never

Gotta ask.

Are the x220s with an i5 2410M just that different from i5 2520M to justify spending a decent amount extra?

I found a pretty decent deal (for the prices in my country, that is...) which has 8gb of RAM and 120gb of SSD, which is pretty much what I wanted, problem is the CPU.

>>59057700
>1366x768
>$160
haha, fuck that man with a rusty rake, even 100 would be too much

>>59057727
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-2520M-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2410M/m29vs2769

10% difference.

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X40 master race checking in.
>10 hours battery life
>14 with wifi turned off and minimum brightness
>tiny
>muh ports
>proper keyboard
>easily available chinese batteries give good results
>super efficient pentium M core, basically the same one intel still sells in its latest CPU designs
>1.25MB RAM is more than sufficient for Linux

Patrician machine.

>>59057737
>All those virtualization features it lacks
Yikes, I think I'm going to pass. Weird as it is, I want it for some really, really light virtualization.

>>59057738
>>1.25MB RAM is more than sufficient for Linux
Are you Bill Gates time-travelling from 1981?

>>59057773
What are you doing that you need more than a gigabyte of RAM? Heck I can run interpreters, games, compilers, web browsers, editors, and watch a movie and burn a DVD and write a USB stick all at once anon, what else do you need?

>>59057796
people read what you wrote, not what you meant

>>59054113
listen to this guy, OP.

w520 is the REAL thinkpad masterrace.

>>59057880
Wouldn't that be Carbon?

>>59057622
Good UK price, shame computers in general are way more expensive over here. The W520/530's are very pricey but they are the pinnacle of Thinkpads IMO, you'll be happy with yours.

>>59057930
Carbon is consumer shit and a Macbook ripoff.
W/P Series is where it's at.

>>59054113
This.

W530 is basically a desktop with a battery considering how powerful it is. It's definitely on the same performance as all those 2000$ gay man laptops, but with a graphics card optimized for work and for 1500$ cheaper.

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So guys, right now i'm using a T530 with the dGPU, and i'm looking for a lighter replacement. i mostly just run google chrome (i know meme browser) but i'm a highschool student and are looking for something that's lightweight well still being a thinkpad. I'm thinking of getting the new Thinkpad 13 Chromebook then just upgrading the storage, ram, then putting something like Ubuntu on it. i'm also thinking the X230 but buying the unit alone would almost bankrupt me, and i really want something that will last all day. Any of you guys wanna voice your opinion? Pic related, it's my current work horse

hey /tpg/
right now I have an asus laptop, with a sandy bridge i5, 4gb of ram and a 500gb spinny, 15".
I don't really use it because the battery is starting to die and it's a bit cumbersome to carry around to university. I was thinking if it was worth it to replace it with maybe an x series, likely an x230, save up and go for something new, of just suffer with my current one. I'm starting my master in CE in september if it all goes well, so it would be in use for at least 2,5 years. Used thinkpads (and computers in general) here are pretty overpriced, with most x230's i can find going for around 275-325€. I could order from ebay uk, but i'd have to deal with postage

>>59058230
>chromebook
>upgrading the storage
>upgrading the ram

got some bad news for you pal

>>59057641
Yes yes and yes

T430 is probably the best beginner Thinkpad
Between screen and keyboard swaps, distro hopping, and relentless shitposting you will learn a fuck ton

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>hibernate thinkpad
>turn it back on
>screen brightness buttons stop working
>have to restart OS completely to get them back

Looks like I fell for the ThinkPad meme lads, are Elitebooks any good?

>>59058750
Sounds like Your Windows install is corrupted or Linux being Linux.

>>59057641
>I've ever had a thinkpad or used linux
Turn back now.

>>59058223
top kek to you too good sir

>>59058750
hibernation is useless if you have an ssd

>>59058750
>Hibernation
>Ever

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>>59051740
Thinkpad yoga S1 with an i7 4600U, 8gb of ram, and a wacom digitized FHD display for just over $400.
>Is it worth it?
I need something that's easily portable, capable of running photoshop and some light 3d programs, decent keyboard, 1080p or better, and a wacom digitized display.
I have an x220t with an i5 2520m and 8gb of ram and it isn't cutting it any more for photoshop CC and things like zbrush.

>Are there any notorious problems with the thinkpad yoga S1 that I should be worried about?

>>59059212
Get the 14" one with the dedicated GPU

>>59059260
How much do those go for compared to this?
My budget is only around $500

what thinkpads have tn panel screens?

>>59059543
X201 and earlier and T420 and earlier.

X220 can use TN or IPS.

>>59059111
hibernation works great for me

>>59059550
>and earlier
do the newer ones not have tn panels?

>X220
does that include the touchscreen model?

>>59059563
>do the newer ones not have tn panels?
Nope.

X220T? they all have IPS.

>>59059564
>Nope
well thats pretty gay

>X220T? they all have IPS.
alright cool, i'll avoid the 220t then, thanks

>>59059590
>well thats pretty gay
I meant yes, missread it.

All thinkpads since X230 and T430 use IPS panels.

>>59059617
oh shit ips is the better one, my bad

ill probably get the x220t in that case

>>59059660
Just because it's ips it doesnt mean it's good. Just Google [thinkpad model] + gamut

Most thinkpad ips panels have shit gamut and everything looks washed out

>>59059797
>Most thinkpad ips panels have shit gamut and everything looks washed out

which models have decent gamut?

>>59059838
None, you gotta upgrade it yourself. The high gamut panels are in high stock right now for some reason after years of nothing so it might be a good time to pick one up.

Cheapest model that supports high gamut would be the t510. The entire 510 to 530 line uses the same panels.

>>59059857
alright ill look into it thanks

I'm thinking of picking up an X230 for music production purposes. My only concern is whether CPU performance will be not as good because of the age of these machines. I need a new laptop but I don't want to fork out for a new i5 machine and most windows laptops look like shit. I actually like the thinkpad design.
Am I a retard for thinking this is an issue? Pls respond

>>59059888
look up benchmarks for i5-3320M, i5-3360M, i7-3520M and see if that's good enough for what you plan on using it for

>>59055774
>IPS burn-in issue
It's still pretty bad on mine, I'm disappointed.

>>59059933
use a screen saver, it's helped mine a lot

>>59059928
Sorry didn't explain myself. I'm concerned about whether the processor actually slows down over time? I've read that deterioration of the thermal paste can cause this?

>>59058750
switch over to ssd and change power settings to power down when lid is closed.

>>59059260
I've got the yoga 14 with the dedicated Nvidia GPU and intel GPU so you can switch back and forth if you need the lower power consumption of the intel GPU. It's pretty sweet and the IPS display is awesome. Also all the hardware works perfect on a vanilla install of Ubuntu. Even the digitizer works.

>>59059972
>Sorry didn't explain myself. I'm concerned about whether the processor actually slows down over time?

no

I've read that deterioration of the thermal paste can cause this?

kind of, it will make it run hotter which will make it more likely to thermal throttle, which is reducing the performance until it cools down to safe temps

>>59059260
Those are almost double the price, even on ebay.

>>59060297
Go on amazon. They stock a few of the older models. The thing I don't like is if you get one that's too old it won't have the physical buttons for trackpoint and may not have the built in digitizer. If you don't care about that then no big deal.

Here's the cheapest one I found: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00OZC18MS/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

The later model also has the 940m instead of the 840m.

I got a question for you guys, I recently bought a W530 and installed Arch on it. Got everything to an acceptable working level but I just found out that my fucking sound outputs only mono. Now it wouldn't be that big of a problem if only it didn't output sound to my left ear. My google-fu failed me and I'm stuck scratching my neckbeard. Just wondering if you guys had similar problems that you fixed?

>>59060297
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Yoga-14-1TB-16GB-Core-i5-4th-Gen-1-7GHz-8GB-20DM000VUS-/322430842471?hash=item4b12603667:g:phAAAOSw4A5YrIIk

right here. Yoga with an Nvidia GPU

>>59060379
No idea how to fix it but just thinking have you tried a different OS? Did it work previously? Are you sure its not a hardware issue?
Could just boot up another "justwerks" distro on a usb to test it out.

>>59058230
X200 and similar X models around that production time can be gotten for under $100 and will beat a chromebook. If you want it to last all day buy an extra battery for your laptop model, and do a quick switcheroo in class. A good battery will last 5 hours in my experience, but buying used means you get a used battery.

is t420s good?

>>59056656
why t430s is like that?

Jesus christ I need help
All that i'm after is a 1080P Thinkpad with dedicated graphics
Just want a comfortable experience for university, I keep looking for 'better' with benchmarks and what not with never laptop models but they're a load of bullshit
Much obliged

>>59060509
already saw this when looking around, contacted the seller, it's not pen-enabled.
for me, a 2-in-1 isn't worth it unless it has proper pen/stylus support
>>59060344
again, no wacom pen support

There's a reason why I specifically chose a pen-enabled S1 yoga as the example.

And yes, before you guys say it, I have standalone graphics tablets, I use it for my desktop, but on the go, i prefer something a tad more portable and easy to use in a library or in class and setting up a tablet is a bit cumbersome compared to just flipping the computer.
also writing notes with a graphics tablet is just stupid.

>>59061212
W series W520/30 and hope for one with a 1080p panel
But seriously, if you're hoping to play gaems, go elsewhere

>>59061393
gaems are for >>>/v/
I'm only after a nice screen for word processing/research, light design work with Autocad/Circuit analysis
Had a look and it doesn't look like I can find any 1080p W520/530 variants, all 1600X900
Anything a bit more expensive I can try my luck with?

>>59061470
>I'm only after a nice screen for word processing/research, light design work with Autocad/Circuit analysis
W series GPUs are going to be ideal, but if you're really only doing light work then an iGPU should be adequate, though you'd want to aim for 3rd gen i series or later.

>Had a look and it doesn't look like I can find any 1080p W520/530 variants, all 1600X900
Where are you that they're not the majority of the market? I'd be hard pressed to find one without FHD in my country.

>Anything a bit more expensive I can try my luck with?
A W540 naturally. They even get a 3K screen option if you want to go beyond FHD. They're a big step-up in price over the W530 from what I've seen.

Recently got a T430s (great meme btw).

It came with a 2.60 bios. Is there any reason not to upgrade the bios to the latest version?
Like some useful bios mod available only on older versions?

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>2 days and ebay seller hasn't responded

DON'T THEY WANT MY FUCKING MONEY? FUCK

how hard is it to remove a supervisor password on a W530?

OK I think I have found my two options:

1920x1080 T61P 16:9 Aspect Ratio
1920x1200 W500 16:10 Aspect Ratio

Both for ~$190 US
Not sure whether to go with the T61P for the 'Better condition' listing or the W500 for the better resolution 16:10 ratio

>>59062018
The T61p will be 1920x1200 too, there was no 16:9 version.

But go for the W500 anyway because the Nvidia graphics on the T61p are problematic.

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>>59062036
Hang on, these listings are fucking confusing
>two different Thinkpad models
>two different Resolutions listed
the fuck do I do?

>>59062096
Do they list the type number? The lack of real photos would be a red flag to me anyway, but if you can get the type number, run it through the parts lookup in the last pastebin in the OP and see what it really has.

>>59062280
No type numbers unfortunately,
I might just go for it and pray it's the 1920x1200 model, if not, i'll just file a PayPal dispute and eventually get my money back
It's not much money, i'll take a chance

>>59062018
There is no t61p 16:9. It's either 1680x1050 or 1920x1200

>>59062441
Cheers, figured out the seller is half retarded with his listings
Avoiding it now

>>59062018
Sub $200 is w510 territory.

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What did they mean by this?

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>>x1 won't ship until March 4th

>>59057738
how did you get wi-fi work with linux? i tried with no success.
however x40 master race reporting here

>>59063355
Wifi doesn't work on Arch, Debian or OpenSUSE, you have to use real linux like Ubuntu

X230 arrived today. super happy with it. also build quality is way better than on the X220. weird but true.

So my x220 screen is kill

Options

> Buy a screen and replace

But my x220 for some reason always had high temps, and I have repasted it + changed heatsink/fan, tried everything.

I saw prices and it's like screen it's 1/3, 1/4 than another x220, so I was thinking to

> buy another x220

But at this point why noy

> buy a x230

Better hw, best support for w10. I can't move there the wifi card from what I understand (I have unlocked the bios and upgraded the one on the x220), but that's the minor issue, ram and msata ssd + ssd are more important.

I was also thinking to

> buy something else

And I might have already found something

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>>59060379
>>59060931

Found the problem, my right earbud broke... Hurr Durr

>>59059888
the cpu in the x230 is like 10-15%slower than the latest
if it's audio production though I'd suggest getting a mac, you're going to want the low latency audio

>>59063579
the x220 and the x230 are almost exactly the same
it's just a different style keyboard, the flat drop off from the palm rest, and the different cut outs for the ports.
>>59063642
define high temps
if it's under 100c under full cpu and gpu load running at base clock or higher then thats normal
thinkpads just tend to have shit cooling
>>59062018
>nearly $200
>core2shit
the fuck is wrong with you?
you can get a w520 for slightly more, or a t430 for the same price

how do i know if my x230 can use the sim card slot?

>>59064695
have you put a wwan card in there?
if yes then yes it can
if no then no it cannot.

>>59064655
I know they have the same case but the keyboard and palmrest are just that much better made. On the X220 the keyboard had some noteable flex around the volume buttons. The new keyboard is just rock solid.

>>59063642
I would go with an X230 because
>much better igpu
>usb 3.0
>backlit keyboard option
>slightly newer, more likely to have a decent battery

>>59065029
the backlit keyboard is shit though because of the glossy surface

>>59065126
I don't even use my current backlit keyboard desu, just think it's neat to have

Are there any model IPS screens for the x230t without the image retention problems? Please respond.

With Debian, It Just Works.

I put in an SSD as well, and max RAM.

>>59065029

Yes, already looking for it, same thoughts. Eventually I can always fix my x220.
I remember

> only genuine battery on x230

But won't be a problem, I use it always plugged in.

IPS retention problem on x230? That's news for me.

My T410 lid hangs a little, how can I fix it? Maybe a screw is not properly attached?

I found a good priced Y50-70 used for 14800CZK.
Is it worth it? I want to play a lot of XCOM 2, don't care what visuals.
please respond, I can't decide what to buy and I almost bought a Iris laptop

>>59066752
What do you mean by
>hangs a little
?

I'm just gonna assume it's got some wobble. It depends. You could try to tighten the screws that secure the hinges to the base. If that doesn't work you only real option is to get new hinges.

>>59058230
X220 or X230 with 6/9 cell + slice
20-24 hours battery life.
X220 if you don't need graphics, X230 if you need the better HD4000 iGPU or want a touch more battery life.

Get a part time job, High School Boy.

>>59059260
ThinkPad Yoga 14 user here.
I have the one with the Nvidia GPU (Older gen before they had pen silo) and the display is pure garbage. Lightleak galore at all four corners, and I dropped my carry bag (Padded laptop carry bag, Yoga was inside of a second padded sleeve as well) onto carpet from about two feed and the hinge cracked.

Pure shit, avoid.

Just to let you know, I used to be a keyboard traditionalist since the Precision Keyboard was first introduced.
Without having ever tried one, of course. Yesterday I got a T430 and I'm just so regretful. The keyboard is
great. I know there are some faults in the layout but it's not nearly as bad as people want to make it look like.
In fact, the whole thing feels a lot stirdier than previous Lenovo keyboards. Concerning flex it's almost as good
as IBM keyboards. The backlight is a welcome addition too. It looks nice too, though I admit, I miss the blue
elements. Also the lack of dedicated volume buttons is a major throwback on anything newer than x30 series.
But still, it's one of the best, if not the best keyboard currently available on laptops.

>>59068010
I have the same one, which even though it's shit I recommended it for his use case
I'm selling it because I just ordered a carbon and the only time I ever used the GPU was for age of empires or CSGO

>>59068095
Thats fine, so long as he is aware that most of the screens have terrible light leak, and the durability is standard Yoga tier, not Thinkpad tier.

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>>59068199
Example.

And no, thats not the camera lens causing that white bleed, thats in the panel.

>>59068199
Right, they're like E series Thinkpads

>>59061793
Send messages, if they don't reply just yell at eBay, you have the buying advantage.

I just bought a w530 quadcore 8gb fhd for £420
thoughts? instead of upgrading the existing 128gb ssd, should i get a hdd to go alongside it and improve the ssd size?

Hey guys i have a t61 sitting at home collecting dust and i tried to install windows on it. It has an nvidia gpu and every time i go to install the drivers for said gpu it will just bsod on startup. Doesn't matter what version of the driver im running or what OS I tried XP 7 and 10 all give the same bsod on startup when any nvidia driver version is installed. Is it safe to assume the thing is cooked? I'm under the impression that the GPU is fucked.

>>59061470
When I bought my W520 a year ago, I could not find any that were not FHD. Compare and contrast to the T520, where finding a 1080p panel can be kind of difficult.

>>59061539
The W540 was pretty badly compromised. I would personally go with a W541. But that is once again a whole other step up.

>>59064655
How much are W520s running now? I paid $290 for mine a year ago and that was considered to be a very good price. It is still not "slightly more" though, $100 is a lot at this pricepoint.

how hard is it to replace a screen on the w530?
doable by someone who's never replaced any screen before?

>>59069879
you just pop the bezel off and then undo like 4 screws holding the screen and unplug it

then do that in reverse to put new one in

So close to buying a T440s but I caved and bought another Elitebook instead. The T440s had a nice IPS screen but that trackpad was just a retarded design. I'd have to spend another $60 to buy a T450 wrist rest just so I can remove the touchpad, then spend an hour disassembling the T440 to replace the shitty trackpad. And even then the buttons are just at the top, not at the bottom.

Why the fuck did Lenovo do that shit? Judging from all the people that did this mod it sounds like Lenovo didn't listen to their customers at all and mindlessly followed Apple.

anyone know where I can get an x220 slice in the uk for less than the price of an x220? (fuckers cost ~£170)

>>59070044
The irony is that the newer touchpad has the same hinge design as apple. The t440 touchpad is just buttonless and entirely thoughtless in design; nobody else has a trackpad as wobbly and shit as that

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Looking at this I feel legitimately sorry for people who bought an X1 Carbon last year.

>>59070313
ebay?

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Does this look like IPS? CAN'T TELL and the guy seems clueless.

>>59070667
Seems like a shit camera, just look at the keyboard, it's not even clear so there's no real way to tell.

>>59070652
Whats with the X1 Carbon meme?

You can't even swap batteries, let alone use a slice.

>>59070652
why?I got a 2nd gen, it rocks in every way

>>59070688
http://www.laptopbatteryexpress.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-0A36279-Slice-Battery-p/len-x1b.htm

>>59070688
the battery lasts like 6-7 hours anyway..

>>59070691
2nd gen x1 is one of the worst ThinkPads ever made

>>59070730
Benchmarked at 15 hours of battery life on mobilemark, I'd expect 10-12 of video + web browsing at full brightness from the newest one

I always check laptop magazines battery reviews

>>59070730
Thats all? Thats worse than the Pentium M X40 from last decade. I'm getting 16-20 hours on my X230T with 6 cell + slice.

>>59070667
ask for the product id number on the bottom and then plug that into Lenovo's website somewhere, it'll give you the specs

if it says "wide viewing angle something something display" then it's IPS

>>59070770
>I'm getting 16-20 hours from the 100whr batteries that weigh 6lbs
No shit

>>59070714
Thats for the original X1, not X1 Carbon.

so mi x220 has a sticker behind the battery that says Windows 7 Pro OA(x16-96091) with a product key, can I activate windows with that key? if yes, how?

>>59059212
I have the i5 version. The digitizer developed deadzones 4 separate times (3 of which I had replaced under warranty, 1 developed after the warranty expired), the backspace key popped off during the keycap-retraction process once and snapped one of the holding tabs off, so it wobbles whenever you use it, and it gets uncomfortably hot with any significant workload. Also, the pointer buttons are all missing for some brain dead reason.

Carry around a normal laptop and a bamboo connect or something.

>>59070921
You can. But I don't understand why you're asking how to do it. Just type the product key into the activation window.

>>59070921
you install windows 7 pro and then you put in the product key where it says

>>59070765
12 hours of mobility..wtf
why? you take the laptop camping?
If im at home, I like to have it plugged in to be faster

>>59071106
>t. NEET

>>59058230
Chromebook Pixel 2013.

Should I get an X200 with Libreboot pre-installed for $120?

>>59071221
For $120 the condition can't be good.

One of my "friends" was giving me crap for getting a thinkpad saying its a chinese spying device. Is there any truth to that or is he talking out his ass like usual?

>>59071106
1 : Leave home, forgot to charge laptop last night, 50% remaining.
2 : Arrive on-site. Client needs Wi-Fi APs to be managed/setup/modified/site survey.
3 : Break out laptop, log into APs or their controller. Make changes. Total time 1-2 hours.
4 : Begin site survey. Fold X230T into tablet mode, open up Wi-Fi software. Total time 1-4 hours depending on size of location.
5 : Thanks to Slice + 6 cell, down to 20% without ever plugging in.

>>59068095
person who was requesting info on the S1 yoga here, I'd decline that one and ones alike due to the lack of digitizer. standalone graphics tablets aren't as nice to draw with compared to a digitized display, integrated digitizer makes things a lot easier, and a tablet adds some bulk to carrying it around.
If I'm getting a device with a separate graphics tablet, I'd get a regular laptop. I wouldn't even look into a 2-in-1 or a tablet.

>>59071274
Comes with 4GB RAM and No HDD, non-OEM charger, says good condition.

>>59071284
He's absolutely correct. If you're using Windows, at least. The BIOS plants spyware in Windows. That's a fact.

>>59071284
All PCs come with built in spyware. All recent versions of Windows are spyware. Intel and AMD have spyware hard coded into their chips. Some Lenono devices came with pre-loaded spyware as well, but these can be removed, unlike the Windows and Intel/AMD spyware.

>>59071338
>>59071341
Well I obviously don't use windows but he said its they have a hardware backdoor that even if I'm running linux I'm not safe from the chinks.

>>59071403
Every PC post Intel Management Engine has back doors.

>>59071221
It might have backdoors, especially for that low price. Buy a spi flasher and install libreboot yourself.

>>59071338
Link to source?

LSE spyware isn't on ThinkPads, and Lenovo released a tool to remove it from the few laptops that it did affect.

>>59071483
>trusting proprietary "removal tools"
good goy, I mean laowai

>>59071284
short answer no, there is no evidence of any ThinkPad ever having chinese spyware installed on it

long answer yes, there is a potential for the Chinese government to tell Lenovo to put spyware in a firmware update and it would go undetected, which is why US government officials are not allowed to use any Lenovo devices, just because they are Chinese.

Are the batteries on eBay legit?

>>59071634
Look for ones that post cycle counts or how long it was used for. If they have legit Lenovo branding on them, they probably are, if you buy from a good seller.

>>59071288
client works in a cave with no power? just wifi from the abyss?

>>59071798
Unfortunately, I don't have a 5000 foot extension cord to be tethered to when walking around for a site survey.

>>59071288
>configuring an ap takes 2 hours
these fags need a 90% pay cut. they dont deserve getting paid over $100k for being slow

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>>59072120
>10-40 APs
>Configure clustering, band steer, channels, VLAN routing, multiple SSIDs, installing PoE switches, mounting APs, running new cable, site survey to determine best channels for each band, setting up guest network with welcome page with TOS.

If anyone can do that in less than 2 hours, I need to hire them.

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I need to do something about my T420s overheating.

It's the i7 and has Nvidia graphics (which is disabled). I know, the i7 is a house fire waiting to happen. It was my mistake, and I regret it. But it's what I have to work with now.

I have torn the laptop down and reapplied the thermal paste (with MX-4). I did the FHD mod, which exacerbated the overheating problem.

Is it possible that the heatsink currently in the laptop is defective? Like the fluid in the heat pipe(s) evaporated out a pinhole leak? Would the heatsink mostly function until heavy CPU utilization? Because that's what it seems like is happening. Even before the FHD mod, when I did a system upgrade (using Fedora), the temps would hit Tmax and throttle when it was actually updating the packages. The temps would get into the 70s and 80s when just watching videos. Now, with the high res screen, temps hit Tmax when watching videos, and the CPU throttles itself to the point that things get choppy.

I think I want to get a new heatsink. How many versions are there that are compatible with the Nvidia based system? Will the T430s (or even 440s) heatsink work? Are they better designs?

I just want better heat transfer and dissipation. Please help. I like this laptop a lot, and want to keep it.

So I just scored a T430s for cheap on ebay. Have not arrived yet but I'm pretty exited (coming from a E6430s with shitty screen, awefull keyboard and battery bulge).

I plan to replace the keyboard and after finding out you can swap the 20 series keyboard (with some bios modding) I was told it is essentially a "circle-jerk mod for people with 20 years of muscle memory and detatchement issues". Is the keyboard really better in any way ? I need to change it regardless because it isn't the right layout.

Also, what keyboard manufacturer is the best ? I have access to those 2:
04W3138 - CS12 B/L KBD CFA SRX
04W3064 - CS12 B/L KBD CFA CHY

Lastly, can I stull use secureboot (and full disk encription) if I mod the Bios ? I want to remove wifi whitelist and I ordered nescesary hardware (programmer and clip).

Thanks guys.

>>59054112
Hard drive encrypted, no TPM chip, BIOS locked, Computrace permanently disabled, no Secure Boot.

>and does your thinkpad even leave your desk?
Well of course it's a fucking laptop

>>59072855
the keyboard layout is still better than most normal laptops, and it feels much nicer to type on than the *20 keyboard.

>>59073003

ok

>>59072855
>I want to remove wifi whitelist and I ordered nescesary hardware (programmer and clip)
Would you care to recommend some good source on this?

>>59073216

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/5i20a3/flashing_a_custom_bios_onto_the_t430_how_to/

You can basically get any cheap CH341A programmer and soic8 clip. when you figure out how to extract your bios, you hand it over to the bios mod gods and flash back the modded bios (it has to be made with your own, it's personalised). sound pretty easy.

I'm just unsure if botlocker will still work after that.

>>59072685
Seems like it is possible.

Anyone else love the curve under the top of Thinkpads' screens?

>>59073285
thanks

My laptop battery is at about 65% power now, and I'm thinking of replacing it with a 9 cell. Should I just get a cheap random battery or a legit Lenovo one?

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"IBM made them better XD"

>>59070667

Get the serial number from the seller and the Lenovo service website will tell you teh exact specs.

>>59073591
Legit Lenovo. Worth the price if you plan on using it for 2 or more years

Does a NOS battery hold as good a charge as a "younger" battery ? I need a battery for a T400 but "genuine" battery cost high and I doubt htey are still being manufactured.

Are there any ThinkPads as good as the 13" rMBP? I don't care about price. Must have:
- 9+ hour battery life
- PCIe SSD
- 2560 x 1600 resolution or better, no pentile shit
- nice trackpad
- backlit keyboard

Thanks guys

>>59074024
X1C 5th gen is your goto MBP 13" replacement. it's 14in tho.

The only 13" is Thinkpad 13, FHD is the highest resolution.

>>59074089
> X1C
I looked it up and it's worse in just about every way and costs the same or more where I live... is that the best ThinkPad available?

>>59074024
If you do not care about the price then go for a 4th or a 5th gen X1 Carbon. But you won't be getting a good trackpad in any new ThinkPad.

>>59074024
The X1 Carbon is the macbook of thinkpads and is probably the kind of thing you're looking for. Some beefier options with a similar resolution are the T460p or any recent 15".

If you're looking for something light and compact then don't care too much otherwise then you're probably not looking for a conventional thinkpad.

>>59074116
>>59074139
ok thanks guys

>>59073593
what's going on with that cable?

>>59074525
Its pulling up on the plastic above the keyboard

>>59074581
But why and how? Seems that when the lid is open at max angle, the cable becomes tensioned unlike it should be. Perhaps was the laptop dis- and reassembled and the cable got somehow misplaced in the process? I don't have a T60/61 at hand to observe that construction, but my X60 has something pretty similar and it functions fine.

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Picked up this t420 with 8gb of ram for $125 on Craigslist today.

How'd I do?

>>59057305
Good enough. 1366x768 is usable but not great, but it's standard for X220(T).
You can get an IPS screen for your X220 which is a much needed improvement. X220T has IPS by default but because of the touch function there's another layer of something going on that makes it a bit less impressive than a really good IPS.
T models have digitizers for drawing. I dunno about later ones, but the X220T has an ugly protruding battery, which is the major downside to it versus the X220.
Couldn't tell you about Osu since I'm on Linux, but it may be Wine compatible.

>>59074993

Can you draw on linux ? I mean, is there an optimised drawing program for the pen ?

>>59075025
gimp, krita

>>59059212
I have a thinkpad yoga 12, I very much enjoy it. I got a new pen for it, the one it came with was rather dinky and hurt my hand to use. The digitizer can be a bit inaccurate, you'll have to recalibrate it often, but once you're comfortable, it's a real joy to use. Some programs are hard to use with touch screen and pen though. If you're drawing, i say check out medibang. The keyboard is also really nice, been using it for all of my programming courses now a days. It's a little weak, though. It can open programs at an acceptable rate, but you'll occasionally get little hiccups in performance. Don't expect to be playing many games on it, though i'm sure you wouldn't have to worry if you get the yoga 14 and above.

>>59074821
Pretty good. Make sure you throw an ssd into it.
>That keyboard
Are you hiding the laptop's keyboard for a reason?

>>59067193
Bump

>>59072685
throttlestop 8.40

set the multipler to 28 or so

I'm starting to get annoyed by 1366x768 resolution

>>59055774
Why do you use a tripcode? Are you a VIP? Are you a gay faggot? Are you a dumbass? Why? Serious question.

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>>59076025

>still no retro keyboard ultra light usbc, FHD starting, thinkpad with ryzen apu

Fuck everything

>>59054112
TPM is botnet

Who here uses hackintosh on the x220?

I just wanna know how's touchpad support on that.

>>59076030
he's obviously important around here, he uses it in every thread

he's a faggot

>>59076069
>usbc
house fire in the making, the various specs call for anywhere from 25w to 100w power

>>59074107

Define best

The Oled X1 Yoga is Lenovos flagship ultrabook now.

>>59075799
Errr, bump again I guess
I need the opinion

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I'm the anon, with sound issues from few threads back.
I've opened up my T420, checked every connection but still, no sound unless I shake it in a certain way.
Should I but an external sound adapter?

>>59077460
get one with an integrated dac, it's the best

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>>59076603
did you know that OS X has an enhanced version of the Newton's handwriting recognition engine built in?

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>>59077469
Something like this?

>>59064560
>if it's audio production though I'd suggest getting a mac, you're going to want the low latency audio

This - Most production software is only available for Windows or Mac and the way sound drivers work in Windows is such a bitch. Windows lets applications take exclusive control of a device which means you can only use it in one recording program at a time. Can be super hit or miss. Just stupidly designed compared to CoreAudio in Mac OS.

>>59068224
consumer-tier disposable garbage

>>59077469
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

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Anyone using the eSATA port for anything other than USB connectivity?

>>59071634
No, I bought three different 70++ batteries for my thinkpad x220 and none of them worked properly, I could use them for one cycle and then they wouldn't charge. Newer thinkpads since the x220 only accept legit oem batteries I think. It's worth spending extra to get a proper lenovo one. my story: https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/56fi9v/thinkpad_x220_battery_and_modified_bios_woes/?st=iuniz6ka&sh=e0593777

>>59076603
I hackintoshed my x220. Everything works well, just flash a bios without the wlan card whitelist and put in a wlan card that is supported under osx. Trackpad is fine but you want to disable two finger right click, for some reason it's pretty buggy and annoying. I love my hackintosh

>>59077469
what? this one here >>59077460 IS a dac. it converts digital audio to analogue. a Digital Analogue Converter.

>>59077736
Yeah, I just want one gesture with the trackpad, which is three (or four, or even 2 if it can't be achieved, through something like bettertouchtool since I have a license for that) finger desktop switching. I find it just a little less convenient to have to use the keyboard shortcut for that one. I also have a magic trackpad laying around but that seems dumb to carry around

I already encrypted my ssd. Is it a good idea to also set up a bios password for security?

>>59077894
the only gesture that works is three finger swipe for back/forward in safari and it's super awkward because of how small the trackpad is on the x220. just get comfy with the shortcuts.

>>59078123
Many thanks.

Already bought that DW1510 card. 2 week wait for both that thing and the x220.

>>59076025
Welcome to 2008

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hey /tpg/

programmer/drawfag here

looking to replace my 8 yearold macbook pro.

I've been looking at used X230Ts, are they any good? I was also looking at brand new yoga flex 15's, but turns out they don't have fucking styluses.

Does lenovo even make anything with a real stylus and digitalizer currently? All i need is that, and a physical keyboard because i must do codemonkey duties.

Would really want to give lenovo a chance.
>Otherwise, I'll just bite the bullet and get a surface pro 4 and a damn keyboard.

jelp mi

How the fuck do you people deal with having such terrible displays?

>>59078717
The X1 Yoga has an amazing OLED display.

i broke the left mouse button on my x220 do i need a new keyboard completely or can it be repaired individually?

>>59051740
What is baseline normal working temperature you t420 i7 users are having?
mine idles at 55, getting to 65+ when i'm working (i'm doing web-dev stuff most of the time), and spikes to 80 when watching youtube and other shit like that

>>59078717
By buying the 15" master race Thinkpads that have good displays.

/tpg/, I have a vertical black line running down the screen of my x220. What do?

i) Replace the screen with a IPS screen off eBay
ii) Buy a replacement (probably a x230 since I like the form factor and already bought a legit Lenovo 9 cell battery for the x220)?

>>59078717
But I have an x1 carbon with an anti glare IPS display on order

>>59079002
Afaik the x220 and x230 use the same battery, but if I were you I'd just replace the screen with IPS. Getting an x230 with IPS will be expensive

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What is this thinkpad?

>>59079113
Thinkpad TExtremGlare

>>59079113
It's shit, that's what it is

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>>59079121
>>59079118
Any idea what model it is?

>>59079127
look under it retard

nice stolen laptop

>>59079147
Not my laptop. I was thinking of buying it

>>59078686

pls respond

Does anyone have a solution for detecting on Linux if ThinkPad is docked at boot? I already have this https://gist.github.com/seanf/e3be5bf745395d50e975 to detect docking at runtime.

>>59079113
That's probably a ChinkPad.

>>59079379
Also it would be nice to enable external monitor only if thinkpad is docked AND the lid is closed instead of just monitoring docking events like in the GitHub link.

>>59075670
nah, I just like using the mech board more.

>>59076831
He's one of few who even attempts to give reasoning outside of "just buy le Tblazeit lol gaymen"

>>59079113
Looks like an original X1.

>>59079379
You could make a service that runs on boot to run a script.

>>59079577
A very lazy way of sharing information about the state across different scripts would be to dump a value into /tmp/LidOn or something similar. Or even just use the existence of such a file as your indicator. From there you just need to chuck some simple logic into your script.

>>59059543
>>59059550
>>59059563
>>59059564
>>59059590
>>59059617

Guess I would just have to quote the whole thread. I see a lot of shit advice going around

>>59080146
Is it worth 40€?

>>59080256
I have no experience with any nor have I really heard much about them, but at that price it sounds reasonable. As far as specs go they're much the same as an X220 so that puts it fairly cheap by European prices.

>>59076061

The major downfall of a TP

People leaving MBP craving ports can't look at the TN screens of TP

>>59063355
Proprietary kernel blobs.

>>59077585

I have an older eSATA drive enclosure from before USB3 was cool. It's a bacup drive. I don't see why peoplw would use it nowadays.

>>59078686

Thinkpad Yoga 460 and 260.
Thinkpad P40

They all come with stylus.

>>59079127

Round power connector = **30 series.

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>>59080521
Won't you get better speeds with something like this?

>>59080490
But starting in 2015 Thinkpads had IPS widely available on every single model

Also, MacBook airs have TN panels lmao

>>59080490
Anyone coming away from a MBP should be able to afford a decent thinkpad anyway.

>>59080583
I don't know exactly which uses what, but the **10 and **20 series use the same connector as well.

>>59080589
From what I've heard a lot of those USB3 expresscards are pretty slow, eSATA should easily be faster assuming you actually have the stuff to use it.

shitposting from a plane, ask me anything leddit

>>59080836
How much's the internet access?

>>59080589

eSATA is native speed for your drive. Can't get better than that, it's as if it was connected internally.

A pcmcia34 usb3 card like that one is giving me around 60Mb read/ 50Mb write. It's slower than esata but much better than usb2.

How do I get two finger swipe left to 'Go Back' in browsers, file explores, ect

>>59078033
Look, security begins and ends at the end user and their not being a dumbass who opens up their device to anyone and everyone like a cheap hooker.

A BIOS password ain't going to change much on that front AFAIK, hell it might just make things more difficult for when you decide you need to futz with the BIOS itself.

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stop using laptops w/ widescreen

>>59080898
free
jet blue is ok

>>59081525
>Stop using laptops

I just bought a t420 off ebay and it has the 6 cell battery but with only 85% of the capacity left. Are chinks 9 cell going to be better or do i need to go with the expenssive lenovo one ?

>get T420 in mail
>has the expected lovemarks all over it, that's ok the scuff marks only make it sexier

>open up

>the trackpoint nub is black instead of red

I don't own this yet, but are the screens on these bad enough to buy an IPS replacement?

I only know the difference between IPS and TN from desktop monitors, though I use both on a multimonitor setup and to be honest it isn't that awful. I'm just wondering if it's 60 bucks worth it (or more).

>>59081754
I want a blue one, just to throw people off.

>>59081794
TN panels on ThinkPads from 2012-2014 are some of the worst screens ever put in laptops
>>59081754
That's what you get for buying a meme instead of a good computer
>>59081677
If you buy a chink battery replacement you're just asking for trouble. Anker is the only reliable third party, but you're still better off going OEM

>>59081525
Hey I'll be honest. When I see older models with Windows XP/98SE and a 4:3 resolution, I find it kind of sexy. All that space for icons.

how much of a risk is buying a replacement charger? (T430)

>>59081827
Yeah i know but the OEM battery cost almost as much as the price i paid for the laptop

>>59082061
also, better buy a new replacement or used genuine?

>>59068029
T430 keyboard is the best chiclet keyboard I've tried. Mac keyboards are shit in comparison.

>>59082099
If it's anything like the lenovo slim desktop keyboard, I'm going to have to disagree. I own both that and the apple wired keyboard and the latter one feels better.

>>59081827
I see. I guess I'll be saving up some for one of those screens.

By the way, is the IPS replacement really hard to install or does it just require being a bit careful? I've taken apart quite a few laptops apart completely and reassembled no problem, except for them screens.

If I purchased a T460 with a shitty 1366x768 TN screen would I be able to replace it with the 1080p IPS panel from a T450s?

I'd just get a T450s but they rarely show up for sale, and the few that are out there are overpriced as fuck.

>>59082061
I bought a genuine 'used' one off of Amazon, cheap and worked

>>59082163
They have no correlation to their respective laptops

Thinkpad keyboards > apple desktop keyboards >>>>>>> MacBook keyboards

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>X61T with brand new Lenovo cooling assembly
>Fan spins down
>BRRRT noise for about 1 second during the last few spins
WHY?!
Also, is there any OS where I can get >3 hours on the genuine 8-cell? Win7 sucks cocks. I've had this thing for 3 years and the new fan is still annoying as hell.

>>59073593
>cable bulge
That happened on the Lenovo machines retaining the IBM branding for the first years. Get your strawman right, assburger.

>>59054112
X200 libreboot

X230 or X250?

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Cool I didn't know my thinkpad could overclock by itself

>>59083314
230
cheaper with good aftermarket for parts, can be fitted with a good keyboard
Unless you really need the extra performance bump of the X250

The quality has really been shitting itself post X230

>>59083602
Performance bump? I thought the full voltage 3rd gen cpus can compete with the low voltage cpus that came after

>>59083840
they probably can, I did not research benchmarks
does X250 use DDR4?

>>59083840
Depends on scenario

Go with x250. It will actually be thin, cool, and have a long battery life. It will have a great screen, the keyboard is still extremely nice, and it will have all of the same safety features as the x230

>>59083863
nevermind, got confused with X260

>>59083602
>>59083840
>>59083863
>>59083889
>>59084277
Thanks, /g/entlemen.

i bought an ssd for my x220, but it's very loose and i can hear it banging on the chassis while im lifting the laptop, what can i do?

>>59084459
did you not put it in the caddy and the rubber rails back on...?

Just bought a x240 for $240

>muh thinkpad
>muh affordable and best laptop ever
>except shittiest screen ever
>except that new battery costs as much as the laptop itself
>underpowered for today's browsers with dozens of open tabs
I'm gonna go for the MacBook.

>>59084847
Please atleast try and improve the bait next time

>>59084847
>underpowered for today's browsers with dozens of open tabs
That's not the browsers fault.
It's the shitty web design were JS is more than the HTML.

>>59083124
L I N U X

It will also cure your fan noises, runs cooler.

>>59084459
1 : Remove the rubber rails from original drive
2 : Remove thin metal caddy from original drive
3 : Install then metal caddy on SSD
4 : Install rubber rails on SSD
5 : Reinstall.

>>59083863
>>59084847
Just buy one with a good screen
What you described is a T420, which should be universally agreed upon as a garbage computer

Not like an old MacBook is any better, with NO replaceable battery

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>>59084766
>xx40 series
that trackpad tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S67uX34Xl0Q

>>59084766
>*40
I'm so sorry

>>59084901
Itse seems that you have the thinkpad syndrome which symptoms are that you are unable to admit its weaknesses.

>>59084766
I really hope you also bought x250 trackpad

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>>59085047
replaceable at least

>>59085226
By the time you buy the replacement trackpad, you are within about $50-$80 of an xx50 series, not to mention the cost of your time. Why even bother?

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The dick intensifies

>>59085047
>thinkpad
>using the trackpad as anything but a glorified scroll controller
wew

>>59085022
The screen on the T420 really isn't that bad. It's fine for 95% of all applications anyone here will use them for.

It's not like you need to step up to a W520 to get perfect colour reproduction for your Chinese cartoons.

>>59085644
>weebs like 10 bit color
>view it on monitors which can't handle the gamut of SRGB or Adobe RGB
wew

>>59085476
I don't use them, but the fact that the trackpad that *is* there is so hideous, shitty, loud, and has so much excess travel is off-putting.

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Is buying a T240 refurbish worth it?

It's about $220

>>59085868
refurbished doesn't really mean anything and that's overpriced, assuming you meant T420

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>>59085868
Overpriced.

Get something with a better panel and Ivy Bridge. What are you going to be using it for?

>>59085644
>Not that bad
It's got a 158:1 contrast ratio. It is probably in the bottom 5% of all laptop screens produced in the 21st century

New thread:
>>59086381

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>>59085927
Really? That blows... and yes I did mean T420

>>59086032
Uh.. Mostly internet surfing and trolling on YouTube but I will be learning C on my own at home.