HP Spectre x360 13t 13.3" 4k IPS Screen 512GB M.2 SSD

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>>59009972
stop shilling this shit. There's another thread up for it already. sage in all fields

Dual-core CPU with no dGPU for $1400. The shilling is real.

>>59010697
>ultrabook
It's like people can't read

Why not the non-retard-spec version for $1000 flat?

>>59009972
>$1400 USD

lolnope

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>the state of HP MacBook clones

>>59010734
>giving up 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, and 4k display???

>>59010770
I don't know mine has all that but 3200x1800 and no digitizer just touchscreen
It also has a better port situation like this >>59010752
I think I just might have the 2016 one now that I think about it, it has a 7500U though so I figured it was newer.
It's a Costco variant so I can't find the specific model number

>>59010795
If I'm not mistaken you have this https://www.costco.com/HP-ENVY-x360-13-y013cl-13t-Touchscreen-2-in-1-Laptop---Intel-Core-i7---QHD%2b-.product.100317294.html

You probably have the late 2016 version instead of the new 2017 version.

>>59010826
>>59010795
actually you might not even have the spectre

>>59010826
Almost but mine had a 512GB SM951 SSD option
>>59010841
The name says envy but there isn't a non-Costco envy like it at all, it really has the exact same body, logos and specs as the spectres of that same time

>>59010869
-shrugs-

>>59010841
If you could tell me more about the differences from Envy to Spectre of these specific models please do, people online seem to be just as confused as me about this naming, I mean what I have is identical to the 2016 Spectre x360, even though it says Envy and that there is no retail Envy that looks like that

>>59010826
Yeah mines 13-y013cl that's it, no 13t
Either way if you don't care about the digitizer it's a great one for $1000

>>59010894
If you could provide a model number that would be a great help.

>>59010937
Digitizer is necessary for note taking which is invaluable for me

>>59011069
I already have a $50 Wacom pad that fits in the laptop sleeve also so I'm not too worried

>>59011379
>>59011069
Personally I don't like the feeling of pen on glass, I'd much rather be using this seperate pad and have the laptop screen set reasonably, but I could see how a digitizer would add a lot to the tablet side of it

>>59010729
>name justifies the crappy specs at that price

>>59011447
>name
It's a form factor you dumbass

>>59009972
>4k
>i7
>$1400
The battery life must be horrible, a cheap chromebook with linux installed would be more portable than this. Plus you can just buy a new one if anything happens to it.

>>59011478
better battery life than dell xps 13 and macbook pro

>>59011478
The battery life is actually extremely good
And I believe it's like 2 lbs
The CPU is 15w, where Kaby Lake failed the desktop market, it brought serious gains in power saving for laptop cpus

>>59009972
Dell XPS 13

Why? Because the XPS has an actually usable keyboard instead of that shit on the HP that was designed by a retard.

>>59011625
Actually false, reviewers have stated time and time again that the x360 series objectively has a much better keyboard than the xps series

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>>59010433
>>>/pol/

I own a x360 4101dx and I love the keyboard, it feels much more responsive than a XPS 13 or MacBook (old or new gen).

>>59011689 here with more comments. My 4101dx is technically the second generation, which is the first generation (4003dx equivalent) but with Windows 10 by default. The battery life with the 1080p display is fantastic - at least 8 hours with moderate usage. The 15W Intel processor is capable enough, but heavy tasks heat up the aluminum body quickly. The fan is very quiet and is effective. It's pretty light and very easy to carry around.
Quality control is an issue - my original Spectre (the 4003dx) had a motherboard issue that prevented it from starting up after a cold night, and now that my replacement's warranty is expired, it's having the same issue. I also had to take it apart and plug in the WiFi card because the mongoloids at the factory couldn't. Like I said, the keyboard is very enjoyable to type on and full sized.
The touchpad is also large and generally responsive, with the very rare glitch because Synaptics. The hinge on the x360 is a bit too loose so there is some wobble and it can flop around it you pick the laptop up by its keyboard quickly. I use the tablet mode on occasion, the size and weight are both a tad much compared to dedicated tablets but it's great for reading textbooks or watching videos in tent mode. Audio is okay, but older models like mine use Realtek audio, the driver is terrible and it took over a year to fix basic issues that should've been caught at launch. The Synaptics digitizer is shit and is far less sensitive than other devices with Synaptics digitizers.
If anyone is considering the newer 13" Spectre x360 models, I give them a conditional recommendation. The USB-C charger is much more universal than this barrel plug (which is used for all HP laptops but nowhere near a universal standard), but the keyboard has far less travel and reminds me of the new MacBook Pros. At least all the 15" models still use the old design.

>>59010894
The Envy models are for consumers who are impressed by big spec numbers and target the $1000 price range. You'll find more ports, cheaper construction, and phillips screws holding it together. Spectre models target the $1200-1500 price range and are more for portability and people who want a laptop that is made to a higher standard than the average HP laptop. (Obviously that isn't quite the case.) There will be less ports, longer battery life, solid construction, and torx screws on the bottom (but phillips screws inside).

>>59011462
Keep telling yourself that

>>59012008
>being this retarded
Kys

>>59011803
See that's the thing, my has the exact same body and battery as a Spectre x360, I even checked it at best buy
Online people were saying that even calling Hp about this question got answers like yours they say "who it's aimed towards" and "higher end" but literally can't even think of anything when customers ask what the literal differences are
That's what I'm saying, there's no envy on the market like these ones, that use the Spectre body and form factor

>>59011803
>torx screws on the bottom
>higher quality
No they just make it cater to the market of people just buying things because of the commercial instead of being expected to open it up once easily and look at the hardware

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>>59011803
>>59012115
I got torx screws by the way, just checked
I just don't understand, what is this machine

>>59011669
>wants shills in here
>prioritizes my image before the text
k
>>59011786
this is pure shillery get the fuck out

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>When you finally leave your thinkpads

>>59010752
lol this is disgusting. So glad Apple has quality control and is super willing to replace the slightest thing that isn't perfect

>>59012462
Is that the 13 or 15 inch Spectre

>>59012473
Literally nothing wrong with the laptop in that image wtf are you talking about

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>>59012473
>This is ugly
This is beautiful

>>59009972
get a mac you ultratard

>>59012501
Are you insane?

>>59012505
I have a 2016 MBP and only have 2 adapters that remain attached to the devices they're used on. Care to try again, sweetheart?

>>59012485
It's the 13 inch Envy x360 that is actually exactly like a Spectre x360 from here >>59010894
>>59010752

>>59012533
Good for you, my mom has also only needed one port on her tablet

>>59012533
>needing 2 adapters on your person at all times to use basic hardware

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>>59012533
>ONLY
>TWO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>59012589
I never carry any on me. If you could read properly you would see I said they stay attached to devices they're used with. Poor idiot.

>>59012649
You use two whole peripherals huh?
People who use their laptop tend to need more.

>>59012533
I never seen anybody actually defend permanently needing adapters

>3.5-hour battery life
>will be broken at the hinges by this time next year just from normal usage
yeah nah I'll stick to MacBooks™

>>59012520
Not him, can you answer the question?

>>59012533
I bet they were 70 dollars each

Cucks like you should be shot

>>59012728
Actually $9. You can go to bed now.

>>59012717
>3.5 hr battery life
Yeah anon you're not getting 10 hours on maximum usage with any laptop fuck off
>muh hinge
Its actually engineered quite well

Keep defending apples ludicrous pricing

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>>59012724
It's kind of embarrassing that you windows guys are so used to shit-tier QC that you don't even notice this stuff anymore unless it's literally pointed out to you

>>59012501
>HDMI
>USB ports that 99.9% of peripherals use
>Headphone jack
>Precious almighty omnipotent Thunderbolt 3 for devices you still don't buy
So mad

>>59012772
these arrows are not pointing to anything out of the ordinary...

>>59012717
The battery life is actually very good, compared to any other ultrabooks it's competing against the Spectre definitely wins battery life
The hinge hasn't failed yet on previous designs

>>59012772
Are you actually retarded? Serious question.

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>>59012783

>>59012772
That's called an aluminum unibody, you never seen one before?

>>59012799
ebin

>>59012783
I think he's mad about them being USB A and not C
The USB C port is in the background because it's actually irrelevant

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>>59012796
>>59012783
Are you so used to garbage that you can't even see it anymore?

>>59012814
No its shit-tier construction and it looks like it's about to fall apart.

>>59012817
That your connections are dusty?
What are you referring to, I see the same things you do

>>59012832
You're a lost cause, I give up

>>59012817
>Macfag do delusional he's complaining about problems that aren't even there

>>59012817
are you gonna make an actual point or just keep posting stupid bullshit? just gonna ignore you if you don't post something of substance next

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>>59012817
>>59012473
Those aren't gaps, dumbfuck. Go learn what perspective is.

>>59012838
*so

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>>59012817
The metal lips are there too you idiot
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt thinking that you weren't actually completely retarded and referring to the metal needed for USB-spec ports

>>59009972
the fucks the point of 4k on a 13.3inch screen when you need to use scaling anyway just a resource hog.

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>this will be defended in this thread
>a technology board

>>59012817
Your connections are just as sunken in as the spectres. Like someone said, they're not gaps, that's the metal of the aluminum unibody you're pointing at

>>59012869
Kys

>>59012864
Media looks SO much better

>>59012864
Scaling doesn't affect text or images, that's a big advantage
But I agree 4K that size is silly, even QHD is more than enough, 1080 is fine but for super clear text and such a little more is worth it imo

>>59012869
Can someone who doesn't give a shit (like me) explain what these autists are complaining about?

I've seen a lot of computers like this including Macbooks... seems like a standard design nowadays

>>59012890
im sure it does but i dont really sit that close to my laptops when using them to get the full benifit

>>59012869
Old Spectre btw
Not defending anyone, just saying

>>59012917
Its a 13.3" screen, you'll be fairly close, ESPECIALLY in tablet mode

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>>59012869
I'm sorry that we don't all have turbo autism.

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>WAHHH IT'S COPYING MY PRECIOUS ONE OF A KIND MACBOOK
>WAHHH IT'S DIFFERENT FROM MY PRECIOUS ONE OF A KIND MACBOOK

Jesus christ itoddlers just choose one and stick with it.

>>59012943
it's a shame that Windows can't actually scale properly to that DPI lol

>>59013043
>EVERYONE ON 4CHAN IS ONE PERSON

>>59013253
Actually windows 10 does a pretty good job with dpi scaling. This isn't 2014

>>59013253
Can you explain this further?
Everyone always enemy's this but I've run into no problems at all, only the occasional program that doesn't scale bigger, and I feel like that isn't Windows fault
Just curious

>>59013289
Everyone always memes this*
I'm using 200% scaling on a 3200x1600 laptop screen and 150% scaling on 2560x1440 27" monitor
Windows 10

>>59013302
I'm too lazy to explain the technical stuff, google it, I'm sure people have already discussed it here and on reddit at length

>>59011669
>Thinks paid adverts are totally okay on this board
>Autistically focuses on some anon's image, which was more or less irrelevant

Please jump off of the nearest 4-story building

>>59013325
I don't want the technical stuff, I want the practical stuff
What is a problem with heavy scaling?
I don't see any with the OS GUI, if I continue I not see problems I'll assume there isn't one

512GB
>

>>59013386
It's an upgradable Samsung SM951 NVME drive

What gpu? What's the point if no high end gaymur gpu?

>>59013433
Kys

>>59012887
I think he's pointing out that the HP uses generic USB ports with giant shielding and there's such a gap between the shielding and the aluminum that you can tell they aren't truly integrated... But also who cares

Most of HP laptops aren't even aluminum, but plastic textured and painted to look metal. Garbage.

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>>59013472
Luckily these ones are
Luckily were not talking about most HP laptops

>>59013433
tfw you can easily get a egpu box (razer core, akitio atom,etc.)

>>59013450
Niger video editing and engineering softwares use gpu now.

sitting here with my surface book

best laptop I ever owned

>>59014053
Are you training AI on your laptop