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I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again.

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Do you bring a different phone/laptop with you when you travel abroad? I've heard of some people bringing cleaned laptops with them to China because they're afraid of sensitive work material being stolen, but now you have to do the same thing in the US? Wtf?

>All the security in the world can’t save you if someone has physical possession of your phone or laptop, and can intimidate you into giving up your password.

>And a few weeks ago, that’s precisely what happened to a US citizen returning home from abroad.
>On January 30th, Sidd Bikkannavar, a US-born scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory flew back to Houston, Texas from Santiago, Chile.
>On his way through through the airport, Customs and Border Patrol agents pulled him aside. They searched him, then detained him in a room with a bunch of other people sleeping in cots. They eventually returned and said they’d release him if he told them the password to unlock his phone.

>Bikkannavar explained that the phone belonged to NASA and had sensitive information on it, but his pleas fell on deaf ears. He eventually yielded and unlocked his phone. The agents left with his phone. Half an hour later, they returned, handed him his phone, and released him.

https://medium.freecodecamp.com/ill-never-bring-my-phone-on-an-international-flight-again-neither-should-you-e9289cde0e5f
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>Mark Zuckerberg used the password “dadada” on his LinkedIn account. Earlier this year, when hackers released 117 million email-password combinations, his was among them. Hackers were then able to use his email and password to gain access to his Twitter and Pinterest accounts.

lol
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>>59007388
I just won't travel to America.

Problem solved.
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>>59007388
I'll never go to the united states of fema camps.
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>>59008177
>I just won't travel to America.
Excellent. Stay at home, Pajeet/Mohammed.
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>>59007388
>traveling to a police state with data caps and no freedom at all
why tho
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>>59007388
What exactly does one gain from looking at a dude's phone?Law enforcement does not need to look into your phone to know who you've been contacting and when.
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>>59009850
Nudes
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>>59009744
>everyone outside america is either indian or arab
I'll throw Asian in there as well but you're still looking like a fucking idiot.
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>>59007388
>the phone belonged to NASA and had sensitive information on it
then he should have his security clearance revoked.
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>>59009850
The biggest thing I would be worried about in handing my device over unlocked to them would be them installing some software/rootkit on it for "diagnostic purposes" and leaving it there ending up being a backdoor.

If there was anything I would demand in that situation is that it doesn't leave my sight while they have it and I get to know exactly what they are doing with it.
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Why not just pick up a burner dumb phone on the other side?
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>>59007388
>now
Do you live under a rock?
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>>59010008
Only a complete moron would use his personal phone for illegal purposes,especially after the phone's been in enemy hands.
I don't get what exactly airport cunts expect to accomplish.
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>>59007388
>>59008177
>>59009675
Good, fuck off we're full anyway. We don't need anymore pedophiles over here. You would contribute nothing of value anyway.
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>>59007388
You are crossing a border you should expect to be searched, specially on your way back in.

I am actually going on a international flight soon, with a smart phone, two external drives and two laptops. I fully expect them to be searched. Only thing remotely for me to worry about is copyright infringement, I doubt customs gives a shit, specially since you are not usually searched on your way out but on your way in.
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>>59010107
>Only thing remotely for me to worry about...
People like you should be shot in the streets.
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>>59007388
Or don't travel to Burgerland and you should be fine.
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>>59010209
this
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>>59010202
whatchoo talkin bout willis?
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>>59007388
I get free accommodation if I refuse to give password?
Fucking awesome.
I wonder how long they'd keep me there though.
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>>59010209
actually is was the 3310 oops
Look at this chart. When I travel I don't need a fucking smart phone. My family travels a lot and my mom and dad always had a blast.
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>>59010275
You stay until you give them the password.
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>>59007388
>I've heard of some people bringing cleaned laptops with them to China because they're afraid of sensitive work material being stolen, but now you have to do the same thing in the US?
What indoctrinated shithole have you been living in, OP? The US has been the very worst in the world on this matter from day one.
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>>59010306
good because decent hotels are 200$ a night
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I've never had them check any of my devices and I fly with two laptops two tablets and two phones.
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>>59010303
>Best Game: Pokemon Go
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>>59010005
No retard. I work at JPL. We are issued work phones with high security that we can get emails or other information on. You are also allowed to take it to other "non hostile" countries. The TSA just isn't supposed to touch it.

>>59010322
This. I've traveled across the globe and never had my phone or laptop checked.
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>>59010202
One day anon....one day.
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>>59010320
Enjoy your free rectal inspection every 2 hours, anon.
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>>59010339
I had cucumbers up there.They can't hurt me unless they stick their whole fist in.
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Unplug your hard drive before you go
I bet they won't be able to fix it
Tell me it's a broken laptop
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>>59010330
he gave them access. how can he be trusted with sensitive information, especially if he's got TS SCI clearence. and that was just some chump TSA agents
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>>59010322
>>59010330
hmm wonder why not?
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>>59010320
You literally get a bunk with a bunch of other people and that's it. Probably share a bathroom with one toilet that's cleaned every 2 weeks too.
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>>59010364
post pics
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>>59010370
>broken laptop
It's probably a bomb. Prepare to be probed anally.
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>>59010378
Because I'm not on a watch list like a retarded activist / journalist / college student.
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>>59010410
You're probably on their ignore filter.
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>>59010239
Kill yourself, you dumb fucking shit stain.
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>>59010426
u jelly, fat fuck?
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>>59010209
Oh, so this doesn't have data like texts and who you've called? Interesting.

Actually, completely fucking wrong.


FACEBOOK IS THE DARPA LIFELOG. LOOK IT UP.
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>>59010306
Bitrot is your friend.

>>59010303
You're a NEET. Important people need access to information.
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>>59010424
No criminal record, no online presence, no activity with any groups that have public records.

If your name pops up that you were at some abortion rally they know you are a huge faggot that stirs shit up and they will search your ass.
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>>59010410
How do you access 4chan then? Everyone on 4chan is on at least 1 watchlist.
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>>59010513
They can't put you on a watch list with an ip address.
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I find it hard to grasp what the problem could be here. This was all common sense and predictable by any rube with a couple brain cells to rub together since the 80's. Feds likely had all phone communications to a degree monitored prior to the 80's. The detail and scope were the things that were improved upon up to now. If you have lived to be at least thirty or forty years old you should already be at the point where the more things change the more they stay the same. The cycles and repetition of these issues is a pattern. Now instead of just checking your papers or wallet and personal effects they check your digital profile. Who could've knew or guessed? Give me a fucking break.
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>>59010586
Even in the 80's it was common knowledge even for kids that the FED/CIA had huge server farms listening to every godamn word you said.
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>travelling to third world countries where one in nine bridges are structurally deficient, 716 people for every 100,000 are in prison, gun crime is 20 times more common than the average in other developed nations, healthcare isn't guaranteed to all citizens, 45% of citizens have no access to public transport, infant mortality is the highest in the developed world, life expectancy is lower than Nicaragua and Bangladesh and they still use imperial measurements

Forget brutalist border guards, you should be more surprised that you don't have to shit into a hole in the ground at the airport
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>>59010614
How disingenuous. I bet you have a neat story involving a BMX bike and jumping curbs.
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>>59010586
>Now instead of just checking your papers or wallet and personal effects they check your digital profile.
Searching your person for illegal physical items is completely different from looking through private information on your devices.
I have had my wallet examined at airports,but they never looked at what's written on random cards or pieces of paper I had in there.They were only interested in drugs,weapons etc.
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>>59010637
>where one in nine bridges are structurally deficient
This sounds bad until you realize that it's still better than other countries lololol
>716 people for every 100,000 are in prison
Are you black? Because if you're not, I wouldn't worry about it. Thanks, racism.
>gun crime is 20 times more common than the average in other developed nations
This is a really dumb metric. I could say knife crime is 20 times more common than the average in the UK as well.

Think of it this way: retards shouted with glee that gun related deaths in the UK plummeted after firearms were banned.

Except you're a fucking retard. The ACTUAL HOMICIDE RATE did not decline even 1%. All the people who would have killed you with a gun instead resorted to other shit. That gun ban did not save a single life. Period.

The problem with gun violence in america is that america is a violent country. THere is a lot of crime. You can ban all the guns you want and have a wizard wave his wand and have them all magically disappear off the streets and black market, yet there would still be an equal amount of crime year after year, because you did not solve the problem.

>45% of citizens have no access to public transport,
We have a lot of space. It would be retarded to spend millions running public transit through a cornfield in middle America. This is also a shitty statistic: even though there isn't a public bus transit or subway for 45% of the population, there is certainly transport. There are a shit ton of buses everywhere. Greyhound, etc. They're also pretty fucking cheap and generally more comfortable than public transport.


>healthcare isn't guaranteed to all citizens,
This kind of goes hand in hand with infant mortality and life expectancy, which is definitely a real problem and a big downside here (if you're poor).
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>>59010637
That's not much worse than most other places in the world,to be honest.
For instance,free healthcare does not equal good healthcare.
Even in countries known for relatively humane healthcare you still have to go to private clinics if you want high quality treatments and examinations with reasonable waiting times.
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>>59010701
>jumping curbs
Its called a bunny hop.
*rolls eyes*
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>>59010378
I'm actually an immigrant and travel with an Iranian passport. Whoever claims TSA targets ethnic people is a retard.

>>59010373
I would give them access too if I was arrested. Always comply first, question later in court room.
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>>59010711
I would come at it from a different angle. You go through a vetting process in just about everything you do in the USA. Driver's license, certifications, and more. Collecting them is likely tiered. Just because you don't think they notice all this information doesn't mean it goes unnoticed (or collected).
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>>59010209
grats on getting detained on suspicion for owning one of these

not having a smartphone is eyebrow-raising, more so if you have no social media accounts to sort through as well
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>>59010107
>two external drives and two laptops.

Reducing that to one laptop and one external drive should greatly reduce chances of being searched.
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>>59010807
>Always comply first, question later in court room
Even if complying means breaking the law?
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>>59010823
This is very true. I get astonished looks and gasps when asked for my linkedin or facebook. No google services or other botnets. Everything is done via home server over vpn at home and on phone anyways. It's not foolproof or secure. I do have a flip phone and a smart phone though. Smart phones are really good for taking that shit imo.
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>>59010545
Yes they can
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>>59010807
>Always comply first
>allow rights to be violated
>hand over potentially sensitive information that doesn't belong to you to basically an airport mall cop
>being such a beta cuck
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>>59010816
I really doubt anyone is interested in what pictures I have in my reaction folders and what kind of porn I watch.
They can just look through my police record or ask me if they need certain info.
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>>59010870
nothing to hide, nothing to fear
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>>59010071
>Good, fuck off we're full anyway.
Oh, so you don't want tourism dollars.
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>>59010807
>I'm actually an immigrant and travel with an Iranian passport.

man, you are probably going to run into some trouble with this in the future

best of luck
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>>59010882
Tourism dollars from welfare recipient refugees?
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>>59010330
>The TSA just isn't supposed to touch it.
he should have had his JPL ID while being in a federal government facility (ie. customs), and have his superiors deal with it while he was detained.
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>>59010545
I'm late in replying, but yes they can

and I don't think you're lucky if you have a dynamic ip either, you're likely already on one once they figure out who was using the dynamic ip at that time
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>>59010889
It's not 1940's anymore.Nobody wants to move to the US except a bunch of dirt poor mexican farmers and drug dealers.
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>>59010872
I agree with you that people could care less what you do in most situations as long as they aren't involved. Thankfully.

>>59010874
It also doesn't require a weekly update from an app store so your reminded of it's existence.
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>>59010907
I was talking to my coworker who knows the guy. He apparently had his JPL badge, but the customs guy was just too retarded to understand what it was
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>>59010911
Dynamic IP doesn't make a difference since it hardly changes these days anyways. It's not like you're dialing up to a modem bank every time to get on the internet. The IP is tied to the Mac/ID of the modem anyways which ties the household or device (phone) to the user.
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>>59010807
Obviously you have never handled TS-SCI level information before and how gravely it would end for you to give up that information to a lowly TSA Agent.
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>>59010921
wow, customs always exceeds my expectations
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>>59010759
>This sounds bad until you realize that it's still better than other countries lololol
It's always going to be better than some other countries, the problem is that you're defending it because it's not the worst.
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>>59010846
>>59010870
You can't possibly determine if the officer is right or wrong at an airport. There are always small measures and exceptions in laws that you might not be aware of. Unless you want to end up handcuffed and spend the night in a cell (possibly also rack up a disobedience charge), you better comply and leave arguing to the lawyers.

That being said, I would warn them that the device contains sensitive information and they should contact NASA before handling it.

>>59010942
Most information at JPL isn't really top secret. It's just subject to ITAR/EAR. So I doubt he was dealing with top secret information here.
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>>59010759
>Think of it this way: retards shouted with glee that gun related deaths in the UK plummeted after firearms were banned.
>Except you're a fucking retard. The ACTUAL HOMICIDE RATE did not decline even 1%. All the people who would have killed you with a gun instead resorted to other shit. That gun ban did not save a single life. Period.
The rate of violent attacks resulting in injury declined from 1995, when there were 56 incidents per 1,000 adults, to 15 incidents in 2015. This is a drop of 73% - higher even than the decline in gun crime.
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>>59010861
>This is very true. I get astonished looks and gasps when asked for my linkedin or facebook.

are you saying the feds ask you about this?
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>>59010914
Good, they can stay out.
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Also latest NASA update regarding space exploration:

"Agency Update – Feb. 15, 2017

Good morning! As I've discussed before, we continue working closely with the transition team. The members of the team are excited to be a part of this great agency and everyone is committed to keeping you informed of developments. I know you’ve been reading a lot in the media and hearing from colleagues about what may or may not be our future direction. I want you to know that when those decisions are made, you’ll hear it from me.

From my interactions with the transition team, NASA is clearly a priority for the President and his administration. Since most of you weren’t able to join me today at the Space Launch System/Orion Suppliers Conference, I wanted to share what I told that group. I told them how critical their work is to our future – to the nation’s future and our next giant leaps in exploration.

I shared that we've already hit a lot of milestones, and the next ones are on the close horizon. It’s a testament to your hard work that we were able to say that last year, and we’re confidently able to say it again this year.

The magnitude of what we’re doing with SLS and Orion is incredible, as are the capabilities we’re creating for this nation, which will take humans farther than we ever have before.

At NASA, we’re leveraging the very best the country has to offer on this work, and it’s advancing the national economy."

As the Acting Administrator, my perspective is that we are on the verge of even greater discoveries. President Trump said in his inaugural address that we will “unlock the mysteries of space.” Accordingly, it is imperative to the mission of this agency that we are successful in safely and effectively executing both the SLS and Orion programs....
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>>59011104
... Related to that, I have asked Bill Gerstenmaier to initiate a study to assess the feasibility of adding a crew to Exploration Mission-1, the first integrated flight of SLS and Orion. I know the challenges associated with such a proposition, like reviewing the technical feasibility, additional resources needed, and clearly the extra work would require a different launch date. That said, I also want to hear about the opportunities it could present to accelerate the effort of the first crewed flight and what it would take to accomplish that first step of pushing humans farther into space. The SLS and ORION missions, coupled with those promised from record levels of private investment in space, will help put NASA and America in a position to unlock those mysteries and to ensure this nation’s world preeminence in exploring the cosmos.

There has been a lot of speculation in the public discourse about NASA being pulled in two directions – what has come before and what we want to do now. At NASA, this is an “and” proposition, not an “or.” To get where we want to go, we need to work with the companies represented at the SLS and ORION suppliers conference AND those industry partners that work with us in other areas across the country – all of whom have the long-term view on this work. We must work with everyone to secure our leadership in space – and we will.

This is indeed an exciting time for our agency, and I know all of us share in this enthusiasm. I admire your passion and energy, and I want you to know how important you are to the success of the team and to the future of NASA. Your innovation and creative thinking will drive America’s influence in the coming years and decades.

Stay focused. Thanks for all you are doing every day, and I will share more with you in future updates.

Robert"
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>>59007388
Good, you deserve to be searched. Only libtard cucks are against this, fucking niggers.
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[GO]
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>>59011045
Exactly, anyone against extensive searches of their phone and computer is a degenerate pedo or terrorist, nothing to hide so nothing to fear.
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If people actually cared beyond making a forum post they would've paid more heed to Ron or Rand Paul and a few others.
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>>59010911
>>59010933
You could be using the same IP for years and if you don't give out your personal information its basically impossible for them to put you on a watch list.

What the fuck are they going to do run your ID and say oh this guy is 53.44.111.111?

An IP address isn't you, its just a number. They aren't going to intercept every IP that posts on 4chan and then subpoena the identity of the owner of that connection and then assume its them, it just doesn't work that way.
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>>59011383
>You could be using the same IP for years and if you don't give out your personal information its basically impossible for them to put you on a watch list.

what makes you think this
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>>59011383
>An IP address isn't you, its just a number. They aren't going to intercept every IP that posts on 4chan and then subpoena the identity of the owner of that connection and then assume its them, it just doesn't work that way.

they don't have to, have you not heard of Edward Snowden?
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>>59007388
This is common practice in EVERY COUNTRY ON EARTH now, not just the Excited States of Trumperica.

If you fly into Beijing, Dubai, or even the UK and you are any kind of important scientist or executive or known hacker they're taking your phone and demanding access to it. This is why for years everybody has used 'travel kits' for these countries, where you create temporary email accounts to interact with people, all using new unused password and use them on a craigslist bought cheap phone just for the duration of the trip. After you return you either wipe and sell the device, or consider it totally compromised and never touch it again until you travel again.

My coworker is a PhD in program synthesis/AI research. Every country he flies to they confiscate all his items and demand access to them.
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>>59011257
Yes, but those 2 can't control all of congress. What would happen is some spy would get/out of the US with secrets and congress would demand these security measures, just like every single other country on earth has already implemented. There's nothing they could do about it or even the POTUS really as they would be impeached if said POTUS created a XO that went against the security wishes of congress they'd just argue he's endangering the country and kick him out.

All these countries mainly want blackmail material on world elites/scientists and access to industrial espionage. Terrorism and other crime is like way down the list of things a country wants when they ask for you to unlock all your social media accounts/email/phone/everything
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>>59011383
I would like to think when they call my number, it is at least trips.
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>>59009850
They don't look at your phone, they have a device that essentially pulls all your data and stores it on a remote server. The Federal government is literally making an archive of your contacts, messages, emails, photos, etc.

Since it is a border, you have no expectations of privacy and no warrant is required.
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>>59011505
>This is common practice in EVERY COUNTRY ON EARTH now
No it's not. My sister has a PhD and does cancer research, she has traveled all over the world and she doesn't get her devices confiscated and access to them demanded.

Maybe your coworker is just a racial minority.
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>>59011612
>The Federal government is literally making an archive of your contacts, messages, emails, photos, etc.

why do they want this
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>>59011612
Even for citizens? TSA niggers are buttfucking freedom.
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>>59011383
Your ISP is the one watching things for them. The feds don't sit around recording all that shit themselves. They have the ISPs and cell carriers do it. Then they collect the info at their leisure. If an agency wants to, they can simply ring up Comcast and ask for a list of all the customers that have visited certain webpages in recent history.
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>>59011631
>Even for citizens?

yes

and it's not TSA it's border patrol agents
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>>59011487
Because they literally have no way of knowing your identity.
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Does America really do this? What the fuck? I still wouldn't give access to my shit if I was being detained for no reason.
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>>59011505
This. You have no rights in practice anywhere. What's interesting however is that somehow you have even less rights in customs situations. You can get your squish mitten all sandy over it but it's been like this for a while. Expect packages from overseas to be opened by customs. When traveling you're the package.
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>>59010807
>I would give them access too if I was arrested.

An arrest requires probable cause of a crime. Refusing to give up a phone password is NOT probable cause. He was not under arrest. If anyone claimed he was, it's false arrest and a felony.

>Always comply first, question later in court room.

You have no obligation to comply with unlawful orders. In some situations it may be wise or practical to do so, but not when the unlawful order is to hand over national secrets.

Side note: in some situations you have the right to resist unlawful orders with force. Sometimes including lethal force.

IMHO he should have his security clearance revoked. If that means a lower position or termination, so be it.

But the TSA agents who pressured him and copied data?

* SWAT raid their homes.
* Arrest them.
* Do we know if they are working side jobs as spies? No we do not. Soc onfiscate everything they own to determine the extent to which they may have copied/stored/shared national secrets.
* Prison time. Lots of prison time.
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>>59011645
Everyone is a suspected criminal till proven innocent, it's to protect you ™ and preserve freedom ™, thanks obama.
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>>59011631
Yes. However as a citizen you can refuse to give them any passwords. They can keep you for a limited amount of time but ultimately have to allow you entrance, just not with your device.

If you're on a visa then they can return you to your country of origin or detain you indefinitely.

Basically if you have citizenship they have to let you in, but not your stuff. Otherwise you have to play ball.
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>>59011645
>>59011667
Lots of countries do this. It's the border. You have no expectation of privacy whatsoever when crossing borders. If you live in the EU it's obviously different. since EU countries have agreed to relax border controls. If outsiders come into the EU they are likely to get searched like this.
They don't do it to everyone, of course. Just a small percentage of the people entering.

>I wouldn't give up my stuff
Then you'd either get sent back to your country or detained until you cooperated.
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>>59011642
>Because they literally have no way of knowing your identity.

oh yes they do, there are many ways it's called fingerprinting

The OPC also did a second experiment where it looked up the IP address of a person that had edited a Wikipedia entry (these IP addresses are public), then entered that IP address into a search engine. It got all kinds of information back, such as all the other entries that person had edited, and the fact that the person had visited an online message board related to sexual preferences.

The report explained that using these tactics it was not hard to get a "glimpse into the kind of portrait that authorities could be able to paint of individuals without needing to obtain prior judicial authorization."

http://www.businessinsider.com/ip-address-what-they-can-reveal-about-you-2015-5

with enough info over time they will find out exactly who you are by name via your IP and browsing history and track you
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>>59011663
>An arrest requires probable cause of a crime. Refusing to give up a phone password is NOT probable cause. He was not under arrest. If anyone claimed he was, it's false arrest and a felony.

they can hold him forever without arresting him until he complies
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>>59011663
>TSA
They weren't TSA, idiot. They're CBP.

>REEE ARREST THEM!
They had the authority to search him and they used it accordingly.
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>>59011663
>But the TSA agents who pressured him and copied data?

it was not the TSA it was the BSA and it is legal
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>>59011616
She doesn't want to tell you because she is embarrassed that she gets raped by men of all nationalities. I've heard she's started consenting to the African authorities though :^)
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>>59010870
what other choice do you have as a minority?

Asking for a friend.
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>>59011692
Where is the line drawn. How long till auto detainment for not using windows 10, a smartphone, or having a Facebook account? How much more freedom are we willing to chip away so we might catch that one terrorist?
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>>59011712
No they cannot. Entry cannot be denied to a US citizen. They can hold you temporarily, usually 24 hours or less, but that's it. They keep your phone, but ultimately they have to let you in.

Non citizens do not get that freedom.
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>>59007388
>Sidd Bikkannavar

Yeah, I don't have to worry, I'm not a shitskin.
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>>59011733
>How long till auto detainment for not using windows 10, a smartphone, or having a Facebook account?
None of that is remotley comparable to searching an electronic device entering the country.
I don't like it either, but the legal precedent is pretty clear. You and your belongings are subject to search when you enter the country. The law does not really make a distinction between a locked brief case and a locked phone.
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>>59011734

In United States v. Flores-Montano, 541 U.S. 149 (2004), the U.S. Supreme Court wrote:

The Government's interest in preventing the entry of unwanted persons and effects is at its zenith at the international border. Time and again, we have stated that "searches made at the border, pursuant to the longstanding right of the sovereign to protect itself by stopping and examining persons and property crossing into this country, are reasonable simply by virtue of the fact that they occur at the [153] border." United States v. Ramsey, 431 U.S. 606, 616, 52 L. Ed. 2d 617,XXXXX 1972 (1977). Congress, since the beginning of our Government, "has granted the Executive plenary authority to conduct routine searches and seizures at the border, without probable cause or a warrant, in order to regulate the collection of duties and to prevent the introduction of contraband into this country." United States v. Montoya de Hernandez, 473 U.S. 531, 537, 87 L. Ed. 2d 381,XXXXX 3304 (citing Ramsey, supra, at 616-617, 52 L. Ed. 2d 617,XXXXX 1972 (citing Act of July 31, 1789, ch 5, 1 Stat 29)). The modern statute that authorized the search in this case, 46 Stat 747, 19 U.S.C. § 1581(a)[19 USCS § 1581(a)], 1 derived from a statute passed by the First Congress, the Act of Aug. 4, 1790, ch 35, § 31, 1 Stat 164, see United States v. Villamonte-Marquez, 462 U.S. 579, 584, 77 L. Ed. 2d 22,XXXXX 2573 (1983), and reflects the "impressive historical pedigree" of the Government's power and interest, id., at 585, 77 L. Ed. 2d 22,XXXXX 2573. It is axiomatic that the United States, as sovereign, has the inherent authority to protect, and a paramount interest in protecting, its territorial integrity.

As can be observed from the above-quoted Supreme Court text, U.S. Customs and Border Protection can prohibit the entry of anyone, "at will," if there is any belief, reasonable or otherwise, that the person may be a danger to the sovereignty of the USA.
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>>59011713
>>59011719

Unless they had security clearance sufficient to legally view the data on the phone they DID NOT have authority.

Arrest them, seize their property, start investigating their connections, find out if they're clean or working on the side.

You have no idea how many corrupt people are working in TSA, CBP, etc. You're assuming they're innocent. But they willfully commit a crime. I don't buy for one second that they didn't know what JPL is or who the guy was. Good bet they're guilty as sin.

A good way to find out is to put them under arrest and threaten them with the prison time any 'mere citizen' would receive for stealing the info on that phone.
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>>59011779
Apparently the authorities disagree with you, otherwise the agents in question would have been arrested already. Your impotent rage is amusing though.
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>>59011795
>Corrupt authorities won't arrest corrupt agents
Color me shocked
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>>59011779
>Unless they had security clearance sufficient to legally view the data on the phone they DID NOT have authority.

well they did it anyway didn't they?

>>59011779
>Arrest them, seize their property, start investigating their connections, find out if they're clean or working on the side.

they can look in anything you are carrying past the border, if you have top secret work related shit that is your problem, you should not have brought it

imagine if anyone could say "you can't look in that bag it's top secret stuff" when really it's heroin or a bomb, that's why that excuse does not work
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>>59011768
>United States v. Flores-Montano

That case established that a search could be performed and nothing more.

It does not establish whether a person can be denied entry.
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>>59011768
>not handing over your phone passcode means you "may be a danger to the sovereignty of the USA."

Fuck off. You are the cancer that is destroying this country.
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>>59011821
If only more people thought like you anon.

But muh terrorists and pedophiles.
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>>59011821
I bet if they were a kike from Israel they would be let in without a search
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>>59011813
>>>59011779 (You)
>>Unless they had security clearance sufficient to legally view the data on the phone they DID NOT have authority.
>well they did it anyway didn't they?

In large part because Bikkannavar fucked up and caved.

>>>59011779 (You)
>>Arrest them, seize their property, start investigating their connections, find out if they're clean or working on the side.
>they can look in anything you are carrying past the border,

No, they cannot look at US government property without proper clearance. Which they did not have.

>imagine if anyone could say "you can't look in that bag it's top secret stuff" when really it's heroin or a bomb,

When someone flashes a badge or US gov ID and says "you better contact my superiors", you better god damn well put on the brakes and contact his superiors.

EVERYONE fucked up here. This is how shit gets stolen, leaked, sold, etc.
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>>59011820
>It does not establish whether a person can be denied entry.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/28/240740/-

one of many examples
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>>59011616
If she was in Pharma research and running a device they could not silently backdoor like Android then they would demand access because that's information they'd like to get at, like the personal email addresses of people in the field they can later spearfish and exploit to rape all their data for billions in cloned pharma
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>>59011821
>Fuck off. You are the cancer that is destroying this country.

because i quoted the law?

they will take your device and search it anon, the law is on their side
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>>59011869
All links to the source are dead. The only references are to the article and to a blog.

Link me with an actual court case of fuck right off.
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>>59011878
Then the law is not working. Imagine if that agent was secretly a spy for a foreign country and got to view classified documents or wasn't a spy and could do malicious things with the info or it got leaked.
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>>59011897
>Then the law is not working. Imagine if that agent was secretly a spy for a foreign country and got to view classified documents or wasn't a spy and could do malicious things with the info or it got leaked.

it's been the law forever and all people do is bitch they never actually do anything
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>>59011908
What more can we do? People are making an effort for change all the time, but majority have drink the nothing to hide koolaid so they're fine as long as they still get their kikebook and fagbler.
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>>59007388
I have a cheap burner phone for when I travel. Literally something cheap you'd pick up at a supermarket.

As for a laptop, just get something cheap like a Chromebook.

Problem solved.
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>>59011821
>durk durk mohammad jihad has sensitive government information on his phone
Either Jamal is misrepresenting the importance of this information the feed his ego, the ((((((media)))))) is playing useful idiots, or this nigger needs to be in prison next to Hillary. You do not take controlled data out of computer systems approved to securely handle that data and stick it on your personal shit. The system is set up so you don't accidentally do it. Either shit on his phone wasn't important or Jamal deliberately violated procedures regarding the handling sensitive data. Classified data on a stolen iphone. Department of State correspondence on a basement server run by a senile brain damaged woman. Nuclear weapons in the hands of a reality tv celebrity. The fuck is going on here?
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>>59010878
kys
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>>59012056
what did anonymous poster mean by this diatribe?
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So you all care about this and not the botnet. Funny.
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>>59012340
That this story does not add up.
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So what I'm seeing is the guy should have stood his ground and been detained until the power hungry boots got told they were wrong all along?

probably be treated even worse since they are usually faced with compliant citizens.

probably not a hill most would die on.
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>Hurr guys america is terrible, just look at what happened to the muslim african with a "fuck white people" tattoo who actually worked for the DOD!

Like dude, I'm white and have had a sexual partner for longer than a year. Not only that, I've had multiple sexual partners, so I can walk around with an AR15 and the moment someone sees my facebook i'm immediately a down home country boy with country hobbies instead of the school shooter i really am, i mean, that people might think i am. I don't care. I'm off the watchlist for everything but "smoking weed once or twice", "reckless driving", and "being fun at parties".
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>>59009974
OP's article is about some dude named fucking Sidd Bikkannavar lmao

White guys on /g/ are not concerned with OP's fear mongering article because we aren't a threat to freedom like brown skinned foreigners.
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>>59008177

This. USA is a third world like shithole full of pitifully stupid and helplessly selfish/rude wastes of oxygen. Only reason anyone even thinks otherwise is the powerful myth machine of Holy-wood "exporting culture" and loads of disinformation about what a promised land this piece of shit country is.

>>59009744

How clever. What an original thought.
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>>59012787

The USA is the only threat to freedom in the world. It's brainwashed, retard, wastes of oxygen like you which enable this system because you falsely think you're "apart" of it, all the while it exploits you, fucking your ass raw, just the same.
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You deserve everything you're getting.. it's as simple as that. This is news why? Because it happened to someone who happens to be highly educated or relatively prominent?

The trend the USA has been on, financially, is going to come to a boiling point in the next 4 years. This would have happened even under a Democrypt administration, much less the clown car circus show you got going on now.

Real US per capita GDP is $25 or less after taxes and dropping. One of the things Trump has right is the unemployment numbers, at least the fact that the official number is bogus bullshit.

2008 crash was just a warm-up.
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>>59012056
Or, picture this, it was an approved phone.
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>But unfortunately, the US border isn’t technically the US
Wew lad. This is some serious pseudo-law knowledge if I've ever seen it.
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>>59012889

It's not an "approved phone." All of you are illiterate children. It's a government issued device.

As far as that angle goes, there is nothing to say. Totally typical.
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>>59011619

So the Chinese can steal NASA secrets and become #1 country, duh
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>>59012871
Yeah the police state is bipartisan bullshit, but wedge issues are too easy for the public to fall for.

Both are the same shit to me.
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>>59012871

>boiling point

How so? Every time someone screams 'collapse', it doesn't happen.
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>>59013026

I agree, but you've misunderstood. I don't think there is any chance of "collapse." US government is insanely strong. That's not the issue, unless I misunderstand you.

What I was talking about is pure economics.. USA is on track to basically have close to zero "middle class" within less than a decade. This isn't some Alex Jones bullshit.
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>>59013071
I agree, what good is a worker when you can automate everything to hell and back?

At that point, they'll just be taking up space and money if you decide to actually go and pay the ubi.
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>>59013098
UBI will never happen in the USA.

USA will go back to literal slavery before UBI is even a serious consideration.
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>>59011210
Fuck off with your nazi propaganda.
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>>59012986
ironically, the US is sending that exact message. unblock your shit at any border of any country or gtfo deported
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>>59007388
Well, i'm not traveling to the states as long as you guys are all messed up like you are now. I usually fly over for some conferences, but not now.

When you've sorted out your shit, maybe I'll come back.
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>>59013118
Yeah that's why I said if they decide to actually go with it.

They already won on a crusade against socialized medicine, and it's not ever single payer.

Something drastic will have to happen for it to come for real.
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>>59007388
>US ciitizen
more like pooinloo/nigger
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>>59013164

UBI already being tested out in limited regions of various EU states.

Meanwhile in USA, look for ACA, medicare and social security to be gutted. I think the military could use the extra bucks. And by military, of course I mean private, no-bid contracts to replace lightbulbs for $5000 a piece or whatever corrupt fraudulent incestuous nonsense that's become typical.
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>>59013198

That's deep man. How's puberty going?
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>>59013071

Yeah I think I get what you're saying. My family is typical Canadian middle class one, but I'm worried that I won't be able to afford the lifestyle my parents worked for, even if I save my money wiesly
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>>59012807
>mfw you sound jealous as fuck of my freedom

tell me, what's it like to spend your life in metaphorical (or perhaps literal) chains?
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>>59013227
I don't know. Ask yourself?
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>>59013227
its okay i guess. hey can i ask u somethin. is my cock suppose to get all the way hard? like it gets hard until about halfway up then its still little and soft in the videos i see online this doesnt seem very commin
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>>59013098

I don't think skilled laobr will be easy to automate, such as a truck driver. Automation will have to navigate highways in winter conditions, park in busy city areas among other things.

The pleb McJobs of course are the low hanging fruit the CEO's are salivating at
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>>59012807
You sound like your country is full of people of Arabic descent
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>>59013216
Oh don't dare you dare criticize the military industrial complex! they need to kill peasants halfway around the world to protect our freedumbs.

>>59013269
Nah truck drivers are dunzo sooner rather than later. And it is supposedly the most common job for males, so that's nothing is going to happen when that is over, nope.
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>>59010107
>Only thing remotely for me to worry about is copyright infringement, I doubt customs gives a shit,


This guy is putting his freedom and comfort in the hands of people with infinite time, infinite money and infinite resources to persecute him if they so want to do.
You guys are funny people. You are like those type of person who say: if i ever end up in a court i would suffer no consequences because i'm innocent. I have nothing to fear for.
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>>59013238

Canadians aren't doing that bad, but your outcomes are inseparable from what happens in the US.

>>59013245
Jealous of what, exactly? Your infant mortality? Crime rates? Massive prison population? Literally any other developed nation compares favorably to the US in just about every measurable way, unless you happen to be one of the relatively few with high income or wealth.
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>>59013123
not the person you're originally replying to but you are a caricature of a backwards redneck and a screaming retard

keep your shitty $8/hr job at the lumberyard
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>>59013295

>dunzo sooner

What makes you think that Anon?

>>59013327

I know our banking system is more stable, but still I'm on edge.

I graduating next month with a degree in GIS, which Iv'e been told my many that there is a decent demand for it

I'm also a cheap son of a bitch, and cut costs on a lot of things. Eat out infrequency, have the hot water tank turned down, all LED lights, powerbar to cut on phantom power leaks, have my freezer sideways so the cold air doesn't fall out and be watesed, only flush the toilet when brown things fall in it etc..

I don't even want a house as big or fancy as my folks, but I worry that I'll be working ten times as hard to attain half of what my parents have not

Discussion on /pol/ always points towards the Jews, but I feel my knowledge is still limited on why this is happening
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>>59013282

Well that's silly. Literally THE Arabic country, ie Arabia.. ie the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a US vassal state.. in fact most Arab states are US vassals which were inherited from the former British Empire or otherwise established... etc..

You're just one of brainwashed masses who thinks anything like that even matters.


>>59013369

>Jews.

Another red flag. I see that shit, I stop reading. So "ironic" how all the most prominent anti-Semites also happen to be raging Zionists.. peculiar.
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>>59013404
>You're just one of brainwashed masses who thinks anything like that even matters.
You do realize that the average opinion among younger people is that race is imaginary and/or irrelevant, right...?
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>>59013369
all the reports of self-driving tests. tech is fast to get to speed.

and not sure pol is the best source for anything but shitposting and crossboard shitposting
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>>59007388
Do they check your phone photos?
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>>59013413

Too monolithic. Younger people, how, where? I presume you mean English speaking... So Anglosphere (US, UK, CAN, AUS, NZ). Even in that case, the USA is standout from the others..

White, American, youth, particularly the males are massively keen on their tribalist notions of "race." Not without irony, most of these people don't know a god damn thing about "race" much less what the word actually even alludes to. Anthropological nuances such as the difference between an ethnic Arab (Bedoin) and mere Arab speakers is at least a few steps above their scope of understanding.

The reason why these idiots latch on to shit like "white pride" is because they've totally lost their own culture. There is no fucking white pride. Europeans have been warring with each other for all of history until quite recently. They come to "white pride" because these retard shit for brains don't even know where they come from. They think they are just "white."
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>>59007388
nobody cares, only pajeets that want something better than pooing in the street or retards taht go to disneyland want to go to burgerland. It's a fucking shithole and it's spiraling faster to becoming something worse than a fucking third world country.
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>>59013431
Might just copy your entire phone, "just in case."

Why must anyone have oversight over them anyway? Unless you are against homeland security, but surely you aren't right? You're an upstanding citizen.
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>>59013477
Stay enlightened my friend.
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>>59013423

/pol/ used to be passable at one point, where maybe 5% of posts had fair but interesting things to debate. I actually screen-capped those posts over the last couple of years. After Trump won the election in November, seems like the board has literally nothing interesting to offer anymore.

I mostly use it as a supplement to the CBC and Winnipeg Free Press news I read, to see if anything neat pops up. Most days I'm disappointed


Well if it can show results in extreme Trucking conditions, I'm game. I can't see it being on the chopping block first though, there's easier stuff to automate before that

>>59013404

Yeah it's odd. I go on /pol/ to see if anything interesting is being discussed. The election times spawned more good debate (to me about 5% of posts were of decent quality) but now it's even more of a dumpster fire.

I mean, there are definitely some shitheads who don't want a more tech oriented nice earth to live (read CEO's who get to import workers who expect less and therefore accept lower pay to start) but to just scream 'its just the Jews' over and over again is definitely untrue and closed minded

I usually click out of the thread when that shit starts
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>he doesn't SSH into his desktop from a shitty $50 laptop
what are you doing family
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>>59013503

All it takes is literacy and critical thinking. Two things which the US seems desperately deprived of.

If you speak any other languages you would know what I mean. You will never see anyone engaging in nuclear levels of retardation, like denial of climate change for example, in any language other than English. This is half because of the corporate/state sponsored shills are mostly operating in English and half because the mass of folks who've actually been brainwashed enough to buy into such horseshit are all English speaking.

I consider myself like an outside observer who appreciates pretty much every country or culture or whatever. As an outside observer, Russians come off as extremely well educated. Just an observation I felt like putting out there.
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>>59013531
This had me thinking of how I could get back into my shit from a shitty laptop I wipe and image with default ubungu iso.

Keep all my servers locked down to key access only, so I would have to configure one to open with a pw. Good exercise to think about really.
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>>59012787
>OP's article is about some dude named fucking Sidd Bikkannavar lmao
Who's born in the US, too.
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>>59013559
Product of US public school, it's hard to get rid of the compliance training and indoctrination.

Not to say I'm not trying, but yeah.
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>>59013561
I remote manage my desktop for convenience too. I hate sitting at desks and love laptops but they're not powerful enough to use as a main device.
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>>59013507
>but to just scream 'its just the Jews' over and over again is definitely untrue and closed minded
Did you expect anything different? /pol/'s an echo chamber full of angsty teens who think they're better than liberals for being contrarian and upset at the jews/world for not having girlfriends. It's just opposite spectrum tumblr.
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>>59013542

Are you illiterate? Why even comment on something when you don't understand the basic facts of the matter? It's a government issued device. Do you understand what that means or are you intentionally deflecting from the issue and shifting blame like a good little shit head?

The fact that NASA gave him a phone to use and he took the phone with him aren't in any way the issue. That is standard shit. Not even unique to NASA. You might learn this if you ever get a job one day.


The guy was on a personal trip.. He likes to race cars. None of this is in any way relevant. The issue is about US airport security theater, how it's arbitrary and discriminatory, often oppressive.. How it's so incompetent that even someone who works for another part of the same federal government isn't even immune..
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>>59013531
How well does this work? Isnt there like a 1+ second delay
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>>59010339
jokes on them
>shinning dragon
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>>59013597

Well a little bit I guess..

I was banking on the fact that 4chan differing from other social media by not having like buttons or upvotes, and having anonymous posts would foster a culture that has decent discussion, and the posts would be judged solely on content. People therefore couldn't virtue signal or brand themselves.

Clearly that's not how it's panning out. Just echoing and shitposting. A lot of teens supposedly came in during the election, because reddit and news networks were talking about 4chan. Def didn't help

>mad at the world / opposite Tumblr

Yup, that's a good summary. Nothing constructive is said anymore.


I go on here, /mu/ and /biz/ more now. Better talks, including with you (and the other anon)
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>>59010410
>im not on a list
oh my sweet baby jesus
if only you knew how wrong that is
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>>59011383
>They aren't going to intercept every IP that posts on 4chan and then subpoena the identity of the owner of that connection and then assume its them
newsflash
they can
and your ISP will give them the info
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>>59013696
I just got to this thread a short while ago. Spent a lot of time on /pol/ and learned a few things as well as had some meaningful discussions, but the constant bashing against anyone who wasn't 100% in the ethno-nationalist hivemind to think Trump is infallible and you have to either be a cuck or a shill if you disagree is just sort of sad from a board that promotes free speech as a paradigm of basic freedoms. Not to say other boards are free from hivemind shitposts like hating apple/intel/amd/nivida in every other thread but at least it's not /pol/ levels of autistic.
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>>59011257
The Pauls and their cucservative pals just want to give the same abusive power to foreign corporations.

>>59011768

And then they also decided in another case that "the border" extends a huge way across the border:

https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
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>>59013559
>I consider myself like an outside observer who appreciates pretty much every country or culture or whatever. As an outside observer, Russians come off as extremely well educated. Just an observation I felt like putting out there.

because if any country is non-polluting and caring of climate change, it's Russia
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>>59013649
depends on the client you're using to set up the connection
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>>59011908
>bunch a fags
vs
>the govment

who has more money dipshit?
who can hire a better jew- err lawyer....
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>land of the "free"
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>>59013753

Yeah exactly, totally agree

I screencapped about 50 ish posts that were meaningful over the last couple years (mostly during my day job at the time). Was thinking of dumping them somewhere...maybe to at least try to stimulate some minds at the very least
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>>59013832

edgy
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>>59013866
better being edgy than blind
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>>59013770
>https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
>Although this zone is not literally "Constitution free"—constitutional protections do still apply—the Border Patrol frequently ignores those protections and runs roughshod over individuals' civil liberties.

i am filling with an incomprehensible rage despite not being in that zone
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>>59012787
I am fully aware of that, but it is still reason enough to cross America off my list of places to visit.
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>>59013779

This is just a weak strawman type argument.

I was not talking about state policies or anything like that. A huge part of Russian economy is natural resources, ie hydrocarbons.

But lets not forget where the modern Russian state comes from in the first place.. After USSR fell, Russia basically became a US puppet. Russia is fucking disastrous mess in so many ways. That's not what I was talking about.


I meant people, and in general. Russian education is actually quite strenuous and is like the polar opposite of US system in many ways, and the results show in the populace.. On average I find Russians to be some of the most well read and critical thinking folks.

Learn some basic Russian, use translate and spend some time in the Russo-sphere.. Russia has it's own version of pretty much every Western social media.
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>>59009974
>Adding Asian to a list of Asian nationalities.
Don't you know the Middle East and India are still parts of Asia? Are you racist or do you just not understand how continents work?
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>>59007851
Where can I find these password releases?
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>>59010836
>>59013304
True but it's one way and I must take it all. And you seriously think customs cares about the copyright status of your data? First of all it's not early 2000s lots of people have copyrighted files on their computers, it's next to impossible to prove ownership or disprove it specially at a border.

I am crossing a border it's not like you're handing over your rights, anytime you cross a border you are surrendering privacy, you are lucky you are not strip searched because they can do that if they want to.

Take the good advice from Jim Carey
>stop breaking the law asshole
And you don't have to worry about border crossings, be smart and don't have a ton of emails and personal documents that tell your life story that shits to personal to store on your pc anyway.
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>>59013649
Maybe but I think mosh has a feature to locally echo typing to make remote connections less painful.
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>>59011698
If you have an IP that is fishy you can connect it to an identity. You can't connect that IP to an actual person easily and have it hold up in court.

Read up on the big hacker arrests and the silk road arrests. They're interesting that amount of work law enforcement had to do to connect IPs to actual people.
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>>59013973
Racially speaking, the Middle East and India are mixed Caucasian groups, and the general idea of Asia (China/Korea/Japan/Thailand/Malaysia/Mongolia...) are Mongoloid groups. The Middle East itself is usually considered it's own region separate from Continental Asia, in language/culture/race/physical barriers, similar to Russia since though most of Russia's land is in the Asian continent but the most populous side is on the European side, west of the Urals and Caucuses.
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I already decided not to go to the USA anymore when they started registering fingerprints.

The rest is just icing on the cake.
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>>59007388
>Sidd Bikkannavar
>scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory
I don't see the problem.
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>>59014073
Did you miss US born citizen, or do you have some strain of selective blindness?
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>>59014035
So you are going by racial stereotypes? I believe that's called being Racist good sir.

Anywho, I don't see Arabia or the Indies having their own continent. They are still a part of Asia, thus they are all Asian. Yes it is true that they all have subcultures and have staked out their own areas, but that doesn't change what continent they are a part of.

What you are essentially doing is saying "You can't forget about 'Orientals', but I can't say 'Orientals' because it is socially unacceptable so I will call them Asian like it's niche".

>gb2 /pol/
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>>59014169
>name is Sidd Bikkannavar
>works for NASA
I don't give a shit if he is a US born citizen or not, he deserves it.
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>>59014204
>So you are going by racial stereotypes? I believe that's called being Racist good sir.

What stereotypes? Caucasians and Mongoloids are completely different races. I'd call them Oriental but that only encompasses China, Korea and Japan. Mongoloid is the scientific term in anthropology to describe those of Mongloid backgrounds.
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>>59014309
Deserves it for what? He literally did nothing wrong.
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Or, you could just place your sensitive info on a server and work on it trough remote desktop. Wtf guys is this tech or /b/?
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>>59014332
Then why not refer to them as such and not say you are throwing Asian into a group of already stated Asians.
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>>59007388
How about installing a fake unlock screen that makes it seem like the phone is unlocked?
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>>59007388
Nah, noob.
Should've had set up a decoy profile.
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>>59014348
It's cool to hate on non-whites even if they work for NASA or some higher institution. If they don't have a Western name, fuck them.
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>>59014369
Because Indians and Middle Easterns are racially different from racial Asians and most people outside the UK don't associate Indians or the residents kf the Middle East with Asians. Most North and South Americans don't bother to use geographical based ideas about origin and instead look for ethnic lines first since it's more descriptive. To say Asian and imply Arabian or India instead of Korean or Thai would not work in the US or Canada where people associate Asian with Oriental and specify on Middle Easterners or Indians since they don't view them as Asian racially. It's jargon at this point but again, outside the UK when you say Asian, people think Oriental and not Indian or Middle Eastern.
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>>59014418
Thank you for explaining. I personally felt that your initial statements were hypocritical in using an umbrella term with the intent to racially exclude persons who belong to that term in order to call someone out on being of low intelligence or racist. I still do not feel it is appropriate to use the terms in such a way, but understand you were attempting to conform with the stereotypical verbiage used by select countries. Our back and forth has been due to a miscommunication and your clarification is appreciated.

Hopefully one day we can overcome stereotypes and the lack of understanding when it comes to geological factors so we won't need to mince our words for the layman to understand.

t. Fat Stupid Uneducated American
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>>59014659
>using an umbrella term
Do you mean the use of "mongoloid"? I was serious when I meant it was the scientific term used in anthropology. It became a derogatory term for the mentally handicapped sometime after the 1920s but it's still used today, scientifically, by forensic anthropologists. I had no intentions to connote it with the mentally challenged.
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>>59014736
I meant the umbrella term Asian.
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>>59007388
>cross borders
>be interogated
>"Please surrender the passwords for your social-media-accounts
>have no such accounts because NEET-life
>"I can't tell you what I don't have."
>Gitmo, here I come.

Land of the Free.
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>>59007388
Remove your hard drive/SD-card and ship it to your destination before you leave and bring the laptop with you on the flight to fuck with them.
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It's like nobody in this thread knows about veracrypt hidden volumes
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>>59013282
Nice brainwashing bro.
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>>59013832
We have the best freedoms. I love my freedoms. Don't you agree they are the best freedoms?

Enjoy getting fucked over, democratically.
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So, what are the actual solutions to this problem?
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>>59015511
Buy new phone in country of arrival and destroy it when leaving.
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>>59014803
you are just going to fuck yourself even more if they ask you to show your laptop is actually functional.
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>>59015734
what about my laptop? I need it to work.
I could (maybe) accept some TSA moron quickly going thought my files and nothing else, but there is the real risk of them planting a backdoor on my devices like the did with cisco routers.
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>>59014918
>Sir our experts have detected a large suspicious looking file and some encryption software on your computer
>Please provide us with all your passwords or we will have to seize it and forward it to the FBI for further analysis
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>>59015851
Mail the whole thing via dhl to a friend.
If you can afford a several thousand dollar plane ticket,paying a fifty dollar shipping fee shouldn't be a problem.
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>>59014918
you will be able to hide that you have an hidden volume maybe, but they will see that you use encryption. Get ready for a very long interview.
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>>59015875
well, even ignoring the efficiency of your typical courier, there are inspections on international expeditions as well.
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>>59015808
What's stopping from buying a shitty new drive, with nothing but OS and drivers on it and use that as a decoy?
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>>59010872
Have you paid royalties and rights for the privilege of having those photos and porns in your possession?

I thought not. Jail, motherfucker
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>>59013987

Probably on the hidden services. But if you gain this information you probably will be fuck over by the fed so don't do it.
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I don't get it.

When i took a fly one day after a terrorist attack i didn't even got my laptop search. They didn't bother to even open it.

So unless your on a track list and you are actively search for i don't know why they would search in your shit.
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>>59016173
firmware-level malwares, they are already a thing that you can find in the wild.
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>>59012807
He's right you know. You fell for the oldest meme in the book: nationalism
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>>59015875
>$50 shipping

More like $200 shipping
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>>59016941
Nationalism is not a very old meme at all.
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>>59017487
It is if you include city states
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>>59016941
>the oldest meme in the book: nationalism
Son nations are a very new meme.
Nationalism is still pretty dank as a far as history is concerned.
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>>59015860
Go read what a veracrypt hidden volume is and how it works, because you have no clue
>>
That's why I never leave my parents home
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>>59007388
>tfw i have a secondary hdd with TAILS for going abroad
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>>59013404
hello fellow Muslim please stop stop talking about politics because you sound like a lunatic.
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>>59010410
College students are on a watch list?
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>>59017616
Please kill yourself because you sound like a fucking retard.
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>>59013507
/pol/ used to recognize obvious trolls, but ever since the reddit immigration they'll bite empty hooks.
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>>59015860
>large suspicious looking file
That is why you name it swapfile.sys and leave it on C:\, baka anon.
And uninstall Veracrypt/whatever while going through the airport.
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>>59007388
thre is a rule alwazs travel with purged devices keed zour privat stuff home and use ecrzption etc just comon sense
>>
>transporting data physically when you can just upload it to a server and access it anywhere in the world
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>>59018914
>sperglord with no worldly experience please go
my uncle had to lock up his hard drive and leave it in a vault when he'd leave work. stop shitposting about stuff you're incredibly ignorant about
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>>59008177
>>59009675
> They'll never live in Silicon Valley
>>
NOTHING TO HIDE, MOTHERFUCKERS

Hope you like your asshole searched because some TSA meathead niggress thinks "he look funneh"
>>
>tfw different laptops depending on what identity I am playing up that that
>tfw accidentally take "autistic 4channer" instead of "professional gamer"
>aren't you a little old for little girl cartoons
>tfw accidentally take "professional gamer" to work instead of "family man"
>your laptop sure has a lot of lights

It seemed like a good idea at the time but I always fucking forget to check!
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I don't understand how organizations set up by the American government can just violate their citizens' conditional rights.

How can they legally compel you to give them your password or unlock it for them when that's clearly in violation of Americans' fifth amendment rights not to incriminate themselves.

Then there's the 4th amendment violations, like what they do to tor volunteers with exit nodes, or the fact that it's somehow not considered a violation if the FBI uses computers to do the unwarranted search and seizure instead of a person, or the TSA program itself.

Fun fact: DHS tested TSA by trying to smuggle weapons past them. Out of 70 tests, only 3 were actually caught by TSA. It demonstrably doesn't even fucking work, just like the NSA mads surveillance programs that nobody seems to care about, which to top it off could be argued violate the first amendment.
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>>59018933
>picking the worst part of your country to be smug about
>>
>>59013997
The fact that I haven't done anything illegal does not mean that a guy with a badge should be able to access and store my personal and work-related files as he pleases.

I fucking hate this bootlicking society nowadays...
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>>59007388
>login screen and not volume decrypt

what a degenerate user
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>>59007388
>Sidd Bikkannavar, a US-born scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory
KEK, they do this do their own citizens. Murricans always kukked
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>>59019566
The fuck does it matter when you're forced to give up your password or be locked up indefinitely?
>>
Border agents checked 500% more devices in 2016 than in 2015.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/17/border-agents-searched-23000-phones-laptops-2016/
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>>59010823
>>59010861
I don't have social media or a cellphone.

>be about a month ago
>my mum's washing machine broke down
>wanted to surprise her whit a new one
>go to local big retailer
>every thing was going ok
>she asks for my info for delivery
>asks for phone
>I give her my home (land line) phone number
>she says I need to provide my cellphone number
>try to explain I don't have one since 2007
>they didn't let me buy the machine without a valid cellphone number
>leave
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>>59011698
>ruger 10/22
>banana clip
>babies fingers on the trigger
fucking ree
>>
>>59010373
There's not going to be TS on a cell phone.

In fact, you don't carry any sensitive information on a cell phone.
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>>59018981
>He's so retarded he can't tell his own laptops apart
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>>59020098
haha wtf? is this real?
>>
>>59020479
I had to go back a few days later with my mum's phone.

Ruining the surprise factor.
>>
Not sure if iOS has this feature or not but in android you can create multiple user accounts and encrypt each account individually. In computer OSs you can also do the same. If you have sensitive data, simply create a 15GB encrypted linux partition on your external drive and store then in it. Use rest of the space as FAT32 or NTFS like a good winpleb. They wouldn't know because NTFS fs eats up upto 10-15 gigs of data from your external HD anyway.
>>
>>59009744
>merry crap! merry crap! merry crap!
>implying you're an actually non-mongrelized White, as if such a thing still existed anywhere in merrycrapia
>>
>>59014332
>referring to white Europeans as Caucasians
America in charge of anthropology
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>>59013477
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>>59013477
It works on both ends of the spectrum actually, americans don't have an identity so they just latch to trash like the white pride meme or any other identity like the cucks who pretend they're cheyenne or some other natives while being pale as a cloud and blue eyed. That's why many of them are attracted to exotic shit and end up adopting chinks.
>>
>>59015851
Inspect the board carefully, take photos before and after, dump bios rom and reflash after inspection, put high-temp epoxy on it, so it will be impossible to remove it without damaging the electronic components and solder joints
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Racial tribalism is a good thing.
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>>59010071
>US citizen returning home
>lmao were full, fuck off xdddd
Are you fucking retarded?
>>
>>59010322
No need to check your stuff if it's already part of the botnet :^)
>>
>>59021507
lol shut up pol
>>
>>59013477
t. Schlomo Greenbergstein
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>>59017616
lol rekt
>>
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>>59021718
>>
>>59021507
>tribalism is a good thing
only here would I see something so ridiculous
>>
>>59010209
i'd demolish your snake high score
>>
>>59013477
Quality bait
>>
>>59013477

This. Most of Europe is trash except for the North Atlantic part anyway.
>>
>>59021507
>Racial tribalism is a good thing.
>posts a jav porn whore known for fucking niggers with giant dicks
>>
>>59022319

>what is bait?
>>
>>59022327
>what is leddit spacing?
>>
>>59022351

fuck you I use pandoc markdown too much
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>>59010071
>We don't need anymore pedophiles over here.

Friendly reminder
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>>59010878
I am sure that mentality will get you very far when surprise house inspection day becomes legalized and someone plants evidence on you in order to make you their scapegoat.

A fool will burn his own stick, all while the wise sharpen their own for the upcoming war.
>>
>>59015851
if you want to keep a secret don't feed it into a fucking computer.
>>
>>59013987
the deep or irc
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>>59010071
>NASA FUCKING SCIENTIST
>NOTHING OF VALUE
God, poltards really are retarded.
>>
>>59007388
I'm white,tax-paying, god-fearing, male that is a citizen of the United States, so I won't be stopped or inquired about my wherabouts.

And if I am, they can feel free to look through my personal belongings, phone, and e-mails, I have nothing to hide. If you refuse, it's pretty obvious you're trying to hide something to be honest.
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>>59024207
>I have nothing to hide
post
credit card number
expiration date
and security code

>nothing to fear
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>>59007388
>have two partitions
>one is 20GB and the other is 140GB
>20GB is Debian ecrypted with Twofish and LUKS
>140GB is Windows 7 with no encryption or password
>have pics of family, a folder of music, shitty games, and a few anti virus programs on the desktop
>have GRUB installed
>edited GRUB background with Intel and Lenovo logos to make it look official
>removed all text except for the two entries you can select
>default entry is "Windows 7"
>the other is "Windows Recovery"
>Windows Recovery actually boots Debian
>Debian partition shows up as "system reserved" under disk management in Windows 7
>Debian partition is inaccessible anyways because ext4 and encryption
>phone holds nothing valuable since I keep contacts in Debian partition and constantly wipe call history and text messages

I'm not worried.
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>>59024299
>I'm not worried.
they can LEGALLY make an image backup for the dirves for use in future """"analysis"""" anon
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>>59024321
So what? They'll probably just copy the Windows partition. If they do get the Debian partition too, then it's all encrypted. Twofish is designed to make brute forcing a pain in the ass.
>>
Will you people stop stretching your journalist legs here? No one cares about your blog
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>>59024391
fair enough

>still mad they can hold these copys indefinitely
>>
>>59024291
holy shit, i tried to bait and troll and the literal retards came out from hiding

even if i had nothing to hide, why would anyone let someone have access to their money. Im talking about privacy concerns, not hiding your credit card number you mongoloid

people here who aren't trolling aren't concerned about the government stealing their credit card information, they're concerned about the government spying on them and harvesting person information about them

fuck you, stupid faggot
>>
>>59024393
Don't like a thread? Hide it and move along, you fucking faggot.
>>
>>59010759
>We are NOT the absolute worst! Take THAT everyone else!
You are re-enacting Animal Farm.
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>>59024440
>why would anyone let someone have access to their money.
why would anyone let someone have access to their mobile devices?

>Im talking about privacy concerns, not hiding your credit card number
well clearly your doing it wrong if you have to hide your CCN from the internet :^)

>they're concerned about the government spying on them and harvesting personal information about them
what about >nothing to hide?

>fuck you, stupid faggot
no u
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>>59019296
At this point it is basically:
>We WILL [insert our fingers in your anus], because otherwise the TERRORISTS will win!
Everything is done so that the terrorists do not win. Somehow, someone has created a story where anyone who cares about privacy is a terrorist.

Why are you covering yourself up and hiding from the camera we put in your bathroom, citizen? Are you smuggling a terrorist into your bathroom?
>>
>>59024713
>>Are you smuggling a terrorist into your bathroom?
>he doesnt smuggle people across the border in his anus
>>
If you are being detained the only thing you should say is "I want muh lawer"
Anything else is plain stupid.
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>>59021076
>>referring to white Europeans as Caucasians
Is this bait?
>>
>>59026317
Would you get a lawyer at an airport?
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>>59026405
Yeah, didn't know you pretty much have no rights at airports (not legally US soil)
You you are pretty much fucked.
You can always get a cheap phone to travel, if you need a laptop ship the HDD separately.
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