/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Richard Stallman is a retard atheist nigger!

Yo im using debian but i cant use sudo? It tells me -bash sudo: command not found.


During the initial set up of my system it couldnt install all the packages for some reason so idk, what should i do? im in a purely terminal mode right now.

>>58960031
That´s a nice way to start the thread.

>>58960118
So just grab stable and don't over complicate things or?

FACT Richard Stallman practices and advocates for pedophilia

>>58960213
nevermind, i figured i can just use su -...

also im trying to use apt-get update but either my wifi isnt configured properly or the debian server ive selected isnt working. how do i change the server and check my net?

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First for Source Mage

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Wallpapers! http://mirror.sobukus.de/files/sourcemage/logos/smgl-desktops/

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>58960313
Fuck off with your monthly meme distro

>>58960510
xubunchu! >w<

I've used Xubuntu for a while a long ass time ago. I grew kinda tired of it.

Tried some distros with KDE, I remember having issues with tearing and such. I use a radeon 280x.

How good is openSUSE? I heard it was the distro to look for if you want something more on the stable side that is still as user friendly as it gets, however I also heard that the default desktop mostly used on this distro is KDE. How does it fare?

>>58960031
BSD sucks.

>>58960287
No he doesn't.

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>>58960118
>seems kinda old.
The distro-specific tools (installer, package utilities, system configuration assistants, build system, package manager for syncing with online repos) and design language (use shell scripts for everything, use simple menu-based curses dialogs for UI) haven't changed since they were first written, because if it ain't broke don't fix it. The installer literally warns you that it's about to download a file "several hundred kilobytes in size"). It also uses the same hybrid BSD/SysV init system that it has used forever because it is simple and it doesn't break.

The system itself is very modern, the last stable release was in July and the -current branch is updated regularly so you can have a "rolling release" if you want to. It uses the latest stable and well-tested versions of software, ships with KDE 4 and Xfce as the default DEs, blackbox, fluxbox, fvwm, and windowmaker as standalone WMs, has community packages and support for KDE 5, Cinnamon, MATE, LXDE/Qt, and /even/ GNOME 3, not to mention most if not all of your hipster minimalist WMs. It ships with development tools for nearly all commonly used languages of the last 30 years and a LAMP stack OOTB, it also includes several options for video players, audio players, image viewers, office suites, Firefox/Thunderbird/Seamonkey, the GIMP, ImageMagic, SoX, both vim and Emacs, in short 95%-100% of what most anyone would need on either a desktop or server system. The community distros have binary packages for the 95% of the remaining 5%, relatively up to date, and if you want more recent or even bleeding edge versions you can make them yourself using a very simple, powerful, and fully customizable automated build system.

It's true that Slackware is the oldest continuously developed Linux distribution, but that doesn't mean that it is outdated. It's about half a year older than Debian and a year older than Red Hat, but people don't usually call them "old", do they?

>>58960679


http://www.stallman.org/archives/2006-may-aug.html#05%20June%202006%20%28Dutch%20paedophiles%20form%20political%20party%29
http://stallman.org/archives/2012-nov-feb.html#04_January_2013_%28Pedophilia%29


Really makes your iGPU heat up dont it?

If anyone replies to this faggot, I'll post bananas, I swear.

>>58960738
GNU/Linux*

LinCuck, gayimp, librecuckoffice sucks. Only autistic fucktards and childrens uses This free shit.

Windows and its office suite is most realiable for adaptery and Scorpions worki.

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>>58960894
Very much this.

I will always buy Microsoft Windows™ because the future starts now™. Microsoft also pioneers innovative new technologies like DirectX™, Office™, and the highest quality operating system to ever grace computers.
When I boot up with a brand new computer running Microsoft Windows™ with the latest Z chipset powered by Intel™ and latest Nvidia™ graphics, I can enjoy the games the way they where meant to be played™. Microsoft™ also pioneers in the gaming field with its latest Xbox™ console to allow gamers to play on their big screens with family and friends.
Microsoft Windows™ is also very secure. It's the most secure operating system on the planet. It's harden against NSA probes, tested by highly trained and experienced programming engineers to have ever graced this planet. With such innovative security technologies like UAC, Defender, Security Essentials, BitLocker, and Windows™ Firewall you can ensure all your sensitive data is secured and you're safe on the internet. Microsoft™ most advanced, and dare say, the most advance web browser on the market, Edge™, has decoupled addon support, like flash, to ensure maximum user safety when browsing the web. You can ensure Microsoft™ keeps you safe from the NSA.

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>>58961397

At this point in time there's really no reasons to consider Linux. I tried once. It caused my Nvidia™ graphics to overheat so much due to its poor quality, novice programmed, open source drivers that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house.
It's quite clear that OPs a Linux shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Windows™. Windows™ is the only real way to play games or do anything productive. We've seen that they offer incredible libraries for software developers like Visual Studio and Microsoft C++ Compiler. He is probably too poor to afford the Microsoft Windows™ experience and can not afford to play any games.
Don't be a poor gamer with bad security and no drivers. The Future Starts Now™ with Microsoft Windows™

>>58961416
>>58961397
>>58960894
My god why are these people so right, how have I not seen this

Where can I purchase a new license for Windows 10? I really need it so I can open those pesky docx files!

The NSA has been trying to infiltrate the linux kernel for years now. Something must be done to stop them because freedom is on the line and our minds are at risk. Paid shills also are trying to brainwash you to abandon Linux, the NSA and CIA is going to lose.

>>58961491
Just don't use SELinux enabled distribution buddy.

Hardened gentoo offers grsecurity patches.

>>58961491
>The NSA
What you're referring to as NSA is actually RedHat/NSA.

>>58961506
>>58961526
It's not just the kernel at risk, the people are at risk. SJWs paid for by the NSA are trying to character assassinate Linus, nobody is safe.

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>>58961491
Source Mage doesn't have this problem.

>>58961526
or as I've recently taken to calling it, RedHat plus NSA. RedHat is not a backdoor unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning botnet made useful by the NSA contributions, compromised security and encryption comprising a full botnet as defined by the EFF

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>tfw would genuinely try out gentoo but too poor to be able to compile it within a day.

>>58961552
Why not just use gentoo instead?

>>58960894
>MS Office

Installed Office 365 on Windows 10 a week ago

>Installer kept saying, "There is another installation already in progress, try again later"
>but it was the first time I clicked on the installer
>finally get it installed
>have to enter product key. cool, I have one
>click button to enter product key
>"Sorry, you can't enter a product key because this copy of Office 365 is not activated"

How the fuck am I supposed to activate it if you won't let me?

Haven't logged into my Windows partition since. LibreOffice just works. Literally no advantage to using MS Office at this point.

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How?

How in the blueberry fuck do you get audio working on Linux? I'm tempted to go back to my win7 partition.

>>58961600
GNU/Linux*

enable your card

>>58961578
just use sabayon

>>58961578
Base install only really requires you to compile grub and maybe the kernel if you can't just copy one from whatever live environment you are using.

>>58961578
Just for the meme value or because you actually believe you would somehow benefit from compiling all of your software yourself?

>>58961589
Because Gentoo doesn't let you """"""CAST"""""" """"""""""SPELLS"""""""""" from """""""""""""""""""GRIMOIRES"""""""""""""""""""

>>58961646
>tfw the captcha comes up "JORDAN STOP" but you accidentally close it before you can take a screencap

>>58961646
woah, h-how did you make that your tripcode is a word? looks pretty cool to be honest

>>58961646
forgot to ask, what is the meaning of these chinese(?) characters? are you a chinese person?

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>>58961721

>>58961600
RTFM

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sound_system

use this command $ amixer sset Master unmute

use alsamixer

specify a distro and try again

>>58961804
$: command not found

>>58961812
Oh my.

>>58961812
Oh fuck....

what kernel are you running? Did alsa make it in there? SPECIFY A DISTRO!!!

Try installing alsa-utils first

>>58961804
>sset
lel, stop copy pasting commands you don't understand

set is enough

>>58961848
>>58961885
pulseaudio doesn't have this problem.

>>58961885
>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Unmuting_the_channels
even the arch wiki blindly copy-pasted that crap

>>58961912
>>>/r/eddit

>>58961912
Faggot, is it the time of the day again?
>lelelelehahahah time to annoy /fglt/ again xxDD
How about no.

>>58961920
>>58961885
set and sset is both correct.
man amixer

>>58961981
Thank you.

This is the dumbest holy war I have ever seen.

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>>58961934
>>58961955

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>>58960313
All hail Source Magic!

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>>58960492

>>58961578
use ccache

>>58959981
Might be the wrog place but anything specific on how to dual boot debian x64 and win7 x64? Uefi for debian and legacy for win7? Could I make it on a single hdd?

>>58962635
Wrong*

>>58962635
Enable efi stub loading, compile your boot options into the kernel, compile the initramfs into the kernel.

Stick the debian.efi (whatever you want to name the kernel just end it with efi) on the Windows EFI partition and then add it with
efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 1 -L "debian lol" -l "\debian.efi"

It will show up in your bios boot options.

Post some cool linux commands!

>>58961451
This anon here. Just kidding xD

Im using cuckdowsX and Mint 18 on other partition.
I would go balls deep into Linux wonderful world but i cant run skyrim from steam and i have at this moment only hd4000 So i dont know if it run at low.

Ff xii inne pcsx2 runs Perfect inne wangablows but on Mint sucks coocks for free

>>58962803

while :; do xrandr --output $(xrandr | awk '/ connected/ { print $1 }') --gamma 0.$((RANDOM%9)):0.$((RANDOM%9)):0.$((RANDOM%9)); done

>>58962803
insmod, rmmod
>>58962831
GNU/Linux*

>>58962803

$(echo "I<RA('1E<W3t`p&r()(pwND&r{,3Rl7Ig}&r{,T31wo});r`26<F]F;==" | uudecode)

>>58962831
Missed post ehh
Meant >>58960894

>>58962803

xrandr --output $(xrandr | awk '/ connected/ { print $1 }') --off

>>58959981
nice choice of logo

>>58962803
GNU/Linux*

>>58962803
GNU/Linux*᠎

>>58962803

echo c | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger

>>58962803

grep LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC /usr/include/linux/reboot.h

Linus left his birthday and the birthday of his children there.

>>58962987
Oh, to convert them, for ex. #define LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC2:

printf '%x\n' 672274793

>>58962987
>>58963041
pretty boring easteregg tbqh

>>58962842
neat
>>58962857
ebin
>>58962931
what does this do?
>>58962987
wew

I have problems with the quality of the video recording in avconv/ffmpeg, how do I increase quality a tad bit and still be able to post the webm to 4chan?

killall -INT avconv 2>/dev/null || avconv -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1280x720 -i :0.0 $HOME/output.webm &

>>58963072
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/plain/Documentation/admin-guide/sysrq.rst

>>58963112
do you really need 25 frames?
also check out -crf and -b:v to change quality and bitrate
also use ffmpeg
-c:v libvpx -crf 4 -b:v 4M does a good job

>>58963112
you may also want to go for 2 passes instead of converting directly to webm, spares some bytes too, so you can record with some higher quality

>>58962152

4chan.org##.postContainer:if(.post:not(.inlined) > .postInfo > .nameBlock > .postertrip:has-text(/^!BE\/4wes0mE/))
4chan.org##.post.preview:if(.postInfo > .nameBlock > .postertrip:has-text(/^!BE\/4wes0mE/))

>>58963202
kek, is this for ublock?
why not 4chanx?

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>>58963202
lol'd

>>58963144
>>58963186
thanks, will check with ffmpeg

>>58962842

fbsetbg -a `find $HOME/img/w | egrep '(jpg|png|gif)$' | sort -R | head -n1`

>>58963202
thanks

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>>58963211
because I don't have 4chanx.... is it gud?

>>58963325
yes, install 4chan x and oneechan for rice

>>58963340
but i don't want to rice. i'm not some kind of hipster memelord

>>58963301
You're trying too hard, anon. This can all be done with bash and shuf:

fbsetbg -a "$(shuf -en1 ~/img/w/+(*jpg|*png|*gif)"

>>58963382
(with extglob enabled)

>>58963363
it's oob rice
you get some nice themes to choose from and a settings menu to tweak some things if you want
it's pretty nice

if you're on firefox, install greasemonkey and then
https://github.com/ccd0/4chan-x
https://github.com/Nebukazar/OneeChan

>>58963301
but I don't use fluxbox

>>58963427
feh --bg-fill "$(shuf -en1 ~/wallpapers/shemales/+(*jpg|*png|*gif))"

>>58960031
Even worse, he's a Jew which means he's intentionally deceitful and a communist

>>58961491
The fun fact is they don't need to try, there is a lot of software which has vulnerabilities that people run with the kernel.
There are so many people hunting these vulns to sell.

>>58963494

https://fosdem.org/2017/schedule/event/linux_desktop_versus_windows10/

>>58963382
>>58963399
but how do I glob arbitrary numbers of recursive directories?
I can definitely replace

sort -R  | head -n1

with

shuf -n1

though

>>58963531
you can glob recursivly with enabled globstar and **/, check man bash for all that shit

>>58963558
well i'll be...

>>58963449
>>58963427
then save it as a script in your ~/bin (you do add ~/bin to your $PATH, right, Anon?) and map it to a keybinding in your WM, and/or put it in your .xinitrc as something like

eval 'while true; do ~/bin/random_wall.sh; sleep 3600; done' &

(or however someone will point out that can be written better)

>>58960754
Stalman quote that VOLUNTARY etc etc.
He then went on to talk about how children are too easily coerced to give consent.
>That one sentence out of context.

how do i vpn on fedora with yum????

wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/archhurd/packages/master/extra/cowsay/rms.cow
sudo mv rms.cow /usr/share/cowsay/cows/
cowsay -f rms 'Sharing is good, and with digital technology, sharing is easy.'

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>>58964000

>>58963703
>I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing.

Any form of pedophilia is wrong
He supports it

>>58964115
All he is saying is that it should be up to the kid whether they want to fool around or not, he isn't condoning predatory behavior.

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>>58964115
It's starts to get boring. Fuck off.

>>58964137
>denying the facts

>>58964115
If we are talking about a college boy dating a 16 yo girl, you can go fuck yourself.

>>58964115
Friendly advice. Don't post stuff out of it's context, read more about the topic, what he has to say about pedophilia, necrophilia and sex with plants.
Also follow his rss feed.

>>58964154
Thats hebephilia and is illegal

>>58964197
I provided a literal verbaitem quote.He supports pedohphila, there is no doubt about it. There is nothing to take out of context,there is no part of the quote missing.

>rss feed
Why would i follow a toe jam eating bird masterbating pedophila's nonsense?

>>58964115
He's talking about when litte suzie climbs up in you're lap and rubs herself on your leg. It happens.
He the went on to say CHILDREN ARE TOO EASILY COERCED TO GIVE CONSENT.
That isn't condoning pedophilia.

>>58964242
we are not even talking about sex here, go fuck yourself

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>>58964242
>Why would i follow a toe jam eating bird masterbating pedophila's nonsense?

>>58964242
>illegal
Age of consent is 16 in plenty of places even in the US. I find even that age is pretty conservative with all the near 6 foot foot C cup 13 year olds walking around.

>>58964242
you weren't verbatim, you didn't even spell the words right, you fucking troll

>>58964242
I don't care if you admit you're wrong.
I just want everyone else to know you're wrong.

evince a shit
zathura a shit

is there something as great as SumatraPDF for linux ?

>>58964323
GNU/Linux*

mupdf

>>58964323
what's wrong with zathura?

Talk me out of installing KDE Plasma 5.8 and nuking my Gnome 3 desktop. It's literally the better DE, right?

>>58964323
That is the program I missed the most coming from windows. I've gotten used to zathura.

>>58964351
The best DE is the one I'm using, because it fits my needs.

>>58964296
>thinking the age of consent is chosen based on physical maturity.

The age of consent being 16 is because most people are sexually mature by 16 and are mentally developed enough to understand the risks of sexual activity well enough to protect themselves from unwanted pregnancies and diseases. Likewise, a 16 year old is much less likely to be taken advantage of by an older individual and have emotional damage done that they aren't prepared for. This isn't about what gets your dick hard, because otherwise you'd be allowed to rub your dick on a sexy poster on a busy city street, wouldn't you?

>>58964377
>most people are sexually mature by 16
there are people who aren't mature at 30

>>58964349
can't open a file from the program without reading a 36 pages doc, I'm not asking for babby GUI menus but at least something like ranger and even when using it the tool is buggy

when you select something the warning "you copied [...]" overlaps the page number and never disappears

can't read epub/djvu

etc

it's shit

>>58964351
It's better than GNOME.

>>58964377
you don't care about psychological maturity, your definition will be deceptive at best, and you will deem a Down syndrome person not worthy of having a child

go fuck yourself,

what u guys think about custom kernels with different schedulers installed xanmod kernel and enabled bfq on my ubuntu gives me 15fps more in csgo i can feel system is more responsive also i'm on hdd not ssd.

>A parrot once had sex with me. I did not recognize the act as sex until it was explained to me afterward, but being stroked on the hand by his soft belly feathers was so pleasurable that I yearn for another chance. I have a photo of that act <https://stallman.org/parrot-love.jpg>; should I go to prison for it?

>>58964429
>>>/v/

What's the best vm software to use to test out some distros, or just use in general so I don't have to dual boot?

>>58964429
too little documentation on the subject, are you on arch?

>>58964494
sorry, I just read you are on ubuntu

>>58964462
Stfu retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBPqksG9nbA

>>58964463
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU

my virtual machines always install like shit. am i not gibing them enough rams? or what the fuck

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I'm trying out QEMU for the first time and I'm using Arch as the guest OS.
For some reason ping doesn't work (it just hangs), but wget and pacman work just fine.
I installed links via pacman and it works just fine.
Why?

>>58964524
Oh, didn't know that had a GUI manager. Thanks.

>>58964508
>>58964429
>seemingly asking a question but no question mark
>five independent clauses with no punctuation or conjunctions
>u
>no regard for capitalization or correct styling of titles and abbreviations
>ubuntu
>probably just trying to confirm that some shit he tried after googling how to make his gaymes work better won't break his system because he doesn't understand it himself
>I'm the retard

>>>/v/
people like you are a blight upon an otherwise healthy and intelligent Linux community

>>58964641
aqemu? yes, also check for qemuctl

>>58964651
calm your autism memelord

>>58964638
Permissions, or something related to /etc/resolv.conf. Can root ping?

>>58964638
>>>/a/

>>58964429
15 more fps? That's a damn good scheduler.

>>58964679
I've booted an Arch iso, I'm root by default.
Just found this though http://wiki.qemu-project.org/Documentation/Networking
>Note - if you are using the (default) SLiRP user networking, then ping (ICMP) will not work, though TCP and UDP will. Don't try to use ping to test your QEMU network configuration!
I hope this doesn't cause problems later.

Seems we have a troll attacking random people.

>>58964429
>What is punctuation?

>>58964660
Those don't look like they are for windows.

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>>58964803
>wat is PunTcuatiom ?

>>58964670
so now it's autistic to try and enforce basic grammar and syntax? this is a technology board. grammars /are/ technology.

>>58964830
Every heard of uppercase and lowercase, faggot.

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>>58964830
k

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wtf is going on itt

>>58964860
Someone used bad syntax

>>58964860
>>58964860
GNU+Linux/0

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>>58964860
install source mage

>>58964904
Right on schedule

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>>58964904

>>58964959
fuck off slackware

Sometimes when I boot up ubuntu my wireless internet doesn't work. The device is connected and recognized, however.

lsusb gives:
Bus 008 Device 004: ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter

If I try to use dmesg I get things like:
[ 92.702922] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00usb_vendor_request: Error - Vendor Request 0x07 failed for offset 0x0500 with error -110

>>58964970
???
what are you implying, friend?

>>58964976
Play with iwlwifi settings.

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I use Ubuntu 16.10 on a Core2Duo laptop with Intel integrated graphics.

Is there any benefit (other than security) in updating the kernel (to the latest mainline version from the FTP) and graphics drivers (from oibaf's PPA)? Or am I just wasting time and bandwidth?

I asked this question in a previous thread but it got lost.

I'm starting to really love using the terminal and I've been a hardcore windows fag since 95 (Never used DOS)

But I'm still not understanding the difference between all the distributions, like debian, ubuntu, gentoo, etc based stuff.

Is it just packages provided? I'm still a baby with linux overall and not too sure what to go with for a basic server and a daily driver for laptop

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>>58965692
Packages, package manager and default configuration. That is why some of us went to source based distributions like source mage. We transcended basic configurations to go beyond simple tweaks.

Package manager is a big thing, they have a certain way to package software and the installation is very different. Some packages differ on the place where they end.

There are standards but not all of distros follow.

What specifically you want to know?

Is VMware good? I don't want to try qemu yet.

I want to drop my Windows 10 and install Debian. What should I expect?

>>58965755
Yes, is good enough until you are ready.

>>58965757
Better try a "virtual" installation first if you are curious. But you'll be okay, Debian provides a newbie safe environment.

>>58965788
Will it really make that big of a difference? I mean between VMware and qemu?

>>58965692
>Is it just packages provided?
Yes, also how the packages are provided and the tools each distribution provides for managing it.
For example, Debian developers take programs that people write, test them, patch them, configure them in a certain way, then compile them against the library versions present on whatever each branch of Debian has at that time. Then Ubuntu comes along, takes the packages that Debian built for it's unstable/testing branch, unpacks them, makes more changes, adds more patches, then rebuilds them, together with stuff like Unity that they make themselves. Then Mint takes Ubuntu's packages and does even more shit to them.
Gentoo users do the configuration and building themselves, which they claim is beneficial but I have yet to see the benefits of doing this to every single package on your system, and it can make updating a lot of work. Every time you upgrade a library (think DLL), you have to rebuild all the programs that use that library because they were built against the old version. The whole point of using a distro that builds packages for you is because it can be a long and tedious process, especially for large components like a browser or a DE. On the other hand, building your own packages makes sense in specific instances when you want to enable certain optional features that your distribution does not, which is why most distributions have tools to make that process simple.
If "hardcore" means you consider yourself a "power user" (not afraid of taking some time to learn what you're doing), try openSUSE, Fedora, or Debian. The first two are "community" versions of commercial Linux distributions so they are very well supported. Debian is the socialist/SJW Linux distro (compete with a constitution, social contract, the Debian Women Project, etc.) but it's been around for a long time and very stable. All three are relatively simple to install and get started with, and can be set up for server or desktop use.

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>>58965721

<):^)>>>>

>>58965834
Some like vmware but qemu with kvm enabled is very powerful, is near native performance we are talking here. Supposedly vmware could do this too, but I am not sure. But don't worry, use what you feel more comfortable with.

>>58965858
GNU/Linux*

>>58965858
what a huge load of bullshit
10/10

Arch is just a stepping stone.

>>58965954
So is life

So qemu seems to favor CDs for whatever reason, but I'm not looking to buy and burn a CD. Can I just get one of those image mounting programs? I can't see why it wouldn't work, but I wouldn't be surprised either.

>>58965915
What's wrong with it?

>>58965958
yes it is

>>58965875
Went ahead and am trying out VMware and seems nice enough for Xubuntu. I guess some time soon I'll compare it with qemu and see how they compare.

Wanted to try Parallels, but no one wants it for Windows.

>>58965963
Wait, are you running qemu in windows? Young grasshopper, you don't do that, just go with vmware if you are not on GNU/LInux.

>>58965858
>debian sjw
>doesn't mention:
>fedora women
>suse women
top mem

>>58965954
Towards?

>>58965978
That settles things. Yes, use vmware for now.

>>58965995
source magic

>>58965995
source magic

What happens if I accidently do "dd if=/dev/zero" and it does 4.1 mib before I cancel it?

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>>58965982
Eh? Why not? I mean yes I am using windows, but wouldn't I still have to do the same thing in a Linux distro?

>>58965995
memetics

>>58966059
random crap to stdout
don't bother

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>>58965990
Debian was the first to have a "Women" project and it has also always had a very socialist/leftist slant since it was founded in the latter half of 1993.
Fedora and other distros/projects jumped on the whole feminism train several years later after Debian. As for SUSE....

>>58966061
The KVM advantage is only on GNU/Linux and QEMU can be a little scary for newbies. Besides, you are just learning, vmware is easy, although virtualbox is even easier, not sure if you knew about that.

>>58965995
source magic᠎

>>58965354
Bump

>>58966075
will it break anything?

>>58966000
Thanks, anon.

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dispel systemd

>>58966076
fuck off
>>58966085
no, unless you added "of" or ">", the output goes to your terminal

>>58966075
random crap would be /dev/random
/dev/zero prints nothing (null bytes) to stdout

>>58966085
no. /dev/zero is a virtual device that discards anything you write to it and if you read from it, it spits out an infinite stream of 0x00. As long as you didn't specify of= in your command line the null bytes don't go anywhere

>>58966099
no u

>>58965354
>>58966082
You need reviews for that anon. Consider to check the source page to see for updates. If the page says there are benefits is mostly sure there are.

But in all honesty, I wish there were more kernel patch reviews. The advantages are so many to have so little info.

>>58966098
this

>>58966079
Well there goes all the suggestions I've been reading. Does qemu not have any advantages over any of the other software? Been using virtualbox for a bit myself. Works all right. Wanted to see if it really made an impact like everyone here seems to imply. I guess I'll just pirate VMware instead.

Does that mean I can at least run Windows 7 pretty well in QEMU if I'm using it on a Linux distro?

I keep hearing bad things about system, how to remove? I'm on arch if it matters

>>58966129
GNU/Linux*

>>58966140
remove arch
install something normal

>>58966140
There's literally nothing wrong with system.

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>>58966080
>>58966019
>>58966012
looks like I have a new filter to define...

>>58966129
If you are using QEMU with KVM in GNU/Linux, you may not notice a performance drop. People do this thing called passthrough with it.

But when on win, just do they easy way, use what you already know.

>>58966140
I heard bad things on arch
>I'm on arch if it matters
nicely memed my friend

>>58966164
just do it faggot

>source mage women
>no reults

>>58966158
if you've never used an init system that isn't an unholy behemoth of fail and AIDS, I can see why you'd think so

>>58966169
Fair enough, guess I can mess with qemu some other time in my life.

is it true that systemd has a nsa backdoor?

>>58966190
if it did, that still wouldn't be the worst thing about it

>>58966190
No, that's SELinux.

>>58966190
not yet, but when everybody be like contempt you can bet they'll put one

>>58966190
RedHat and NSA are friends. They already worked together to make selinux. Look it up.

>>58966208
what's wrong with the nsa?

there goes the neighborhood

wow can I completly de-redhat my system?

>>58961589
Because Gentoo doesn't have a release based stable repo
Gentoo's stable repo is rolling. Source Mage's is released.
Plus Source Mage uses more vanilla packages than Gentoo (even though Gentoo is still pretty vanilla compared with Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu)

>>58966234
This questions is as ironic as it is terrifying. Just to think how pervasive this corporation has made itself is a concern, and to think they may have an agenda could give nightmares to anyone.

>>58966247
>>58961589
Also some people really hate portage, Louis Rossman for example was a Gentooman until he got sick of portage, now he uses Debian. Sorcery is a fucking awesome package manager, so if you hate portage you might like Source Mage

>>58966234

find /usr/share/man -type f | xargs bzgrep -i redhat

To get you started.

>>58966267
>

find /usr/share/man

error: folder not found

>>58966266
Do they have git repos?

>>58966280
I mean, is there an option to install from git repos directly?

>>58966266
is it really worth spending all the time compiling? doesn't updating take forever? or do you never update since you said it was just a stable release

>>58966266
Does it take hours to install source mage?

>>58960213
>>58960292
Log in as root and install sudo. Running everything as root is dumb.

>>58960510
Either Debian (you need to be mildly competent, as in able to add users to groups or install drivers with the command line). If Debian is too difficult for you, try Xubuntu as >>58960580 suggested.

Just so you know, I am this guy
>>58966280
>>58966289

not this guy
>>58966299
>>58966312

I have no idea why he link to my post.

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>>58966312
It just takes a bit of magic.

>>58966280
>>58966289
Sorcery pulls straight from git for some packages.
Not entirely sure since I haven't really used Source Mage that much.
See http://sourcemage.org/Sorcery/Commands/Cast/Components for more details
>>58966299
I use Arch, compiling isn't that bad from what I've heard.
The biggest improvement is if you compile the kernel a specific way though. Clear Linux uses some Intel only flag to make it run ridiculously faster on intel chips. Although I wouldn't use Clear Linux for a desktop PC (i'd only really use it for embedded systems). You could compile the kernel in Gentoo with that flag though and it would be much faster.
>>58966312
Right now since there is no up to date iso, they recommend you install it via chroot. I wouldn't recommend doing this unless you know what you are doing. Honestly it probably takes about as long as it takes to install Arch except you have to wait around for a little bit to compile the Kernel. I.e. 30 mins + compilation time

how does fglt communicate
do you use messengers? skype? irc?

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>>58966379
who /source magic/ here?

>>58966424
We post on 4chan. There's a thread called "/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread".

>>58966417
Cool. I heard sourcemage is easy to make packages for. I bet there are people with grimoires installing directly from git, if not probably soon shall be a ton.

>>58966432
Someone should commint a screenfech logo.

>>58966417
Just so you know, compiling the kernel is optional and takes about 4 hours with 2 GB of ram. Also, there is ccache option in sorcery, this makes the first compiling slower but subsequents compiles are shorter.

>>58966450
There you go.

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>>58966450
i'm only good at shitposting and shilling my useless distro for idiots to waste time with

>>58966467
I don't know if you can use the binary kernel from the chroot image.
I know when I used the (out of date) iso it let you install the iso kernel instead of compiling a new one. Intuitively I don't think that would apply to the chroot image, though. Since your installation media is (at least recommended) to be Alpine Linux's ISO, CRUX's, or SLAX's.

>>58966474
Nice. I am making a couple ascii for my script because screenfetch is not good enough for me, That logo sure looks good.

>>58966474
(too large)

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>>58966499
The chroot comes with a kernel anon.

>>58966499
>>58966467
Nvm, it is still optional in the chroot image

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>>58959981
Hey friendly /g/, I just got a free digital ocean VPS and am running a LEMP stack on ubuntu 16.04.

I just got done installing all this shit, took about 30 minutes cause i'm a newfag to this shit, made sure i changed the cgl fix to 0, made sure i discreetly serve .htaccess files, made sure I added index.php for indexing, changed php-fpm to my own address.

I know what these commands are for (except .htaccess files, just kind of had the proprietary ones made when spinning up an Angular 2 site) however i don't know jack shit about running linux or nginx. I know they have documentation from beginners on nginx but i'm not sure what kind of documentation i should follow for just a typical Ubuntu VPS. Any link you mind providing plus mistakes you made in the past you had to learn from? I already googled but I trust /g/ to always give me juicy information. Thanks guys

t. webdevpleb

>>58966432
Is that LFS?

>>58966548
Learn about PAM, apparently you are already fiddling with a lot there (.htaccess files).

I am sure you already know about the command line so I won't even bother to talk about anything else. Go learn about PAM.

>>58966499
>Since your installation media is (at least recommended) to be ... SLAX's
wait, so you can't even install Source Mage GAY/Linux without using an outdated/abandoned live Slackware USB? wizardfags BTFO

>>58966557
>Source Mage GAY/Linux

<(:^)>>>>

>>58966499
The iso installation is outdated for a reason, use the chroot image, comes with updated binaries.

>>58966595
>binaries
what happened to based sauce?

>>58966330
this
also you will have to add yourself to the sudoers list
/etc/sudoers

>>58966605
you don't even understand what you are saying, or you are a troll

please don't talk to me

>>58966579
thx anon, this is what i read off a quick google search:
>Linux-PAM separates the tasks of authentication into four independent management groups:

account modules check that the specified account is a valid authentication target under current conditions. This may include conditions like account expiration, time of day, and that the user has access to the requested service.
authentication modules verify the user's identity, for example by requesting and checking a password or other secret. They may also pass authentication information on to other systems like a keyring.
password modules are responsible for updating passwords, and are generally coupled to modules employed in the authentication step. They may also be used to enforce strong passwords.
session modules define actions that are performed at the beginning and end of sessions. A session starts after the user has successfully authenticated.

So I'm assuming its for better user authentication rather than just SSH'ing in right away to better defend against getting pwn'd?

Also i am familiar with the command line but I by no means have it 'down' per say. I just know how to cd in and out of places, a basic understanding of setting permissions, open nano or vim etc. Is the tutorial in the OP relevant for me or does it just cover the basic stuff?

So I have a headless debian box for samba/plex/seedbox that I manage through ssh. I was wanting to run some vm's on it but I don't know what to do. What are my options? How would I even access these VM's are RDP and VNC be the only way to use them?

>>58966501
post your ascii when you're done

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>>58966625
I understand what I'm saying and I'm only trolling a little bit sometimes because I can't understand how someone can use this unironically without being a пoлнocтью eбaннyтый ypoд.
So I decided to take an objective and open-minded look at the web site, trying not to cringe at shit like
>Council of Elders
First thing that jumps out is how old everything is, relatively speaking. Wonder why.
>Grimoire sections antivirus, archive, archive-libs, audio-creation, audio-drivers, audio-libs, audio-players, audio-plugins, audio-soft, chat-im, chat-libs, collab, compiz-fusion, desktop-themes, devel, display, doc, editors, education, fonts-tex, fonts-x11, gnome3-apps, gnome3-libs, gnu, gnustep-apps, gnustep-libs, graphics, graphics-libs, ham, haskell, http, i18n, java, kde4, kde4-apps, kde4-bindings, kde4-edu, kde4-graphics, kde4-look, kde4-multimedia, kde4-support, kernels, libs, lxde, mobile, news, odbc-drivers, php-pear, printer, qt5, ruby-raa, science, science-libs, security, security-libs, shell-term-fm, spelling, telephony, utils, video, video-libs, windowmanagers, wm-addons, x11, x11-libs, x11-toolkits, xorg-app, xorg-data, xorg-doc, xorg-driver, xorg-extras, xorg-font, xorg-lib, xorg-proto, xorg-util and xorg-xserver are currently un-maintained
But you know what, I'm still open-minded. Once I find a replacement ATA drive for a toaster I'm repurposing for my parents to be a kiosk-mode box they can play music and watch youtube on, I'll try putting Source Mage on there. Since it's so customizable, I should have no problem building something optimized to run on hardware from 15 years ago, right?

I have to say though, just from reading the docs and looking at the build scripts, it's not nearly as simple as it could be/is on other systems.
But who am I to judge until I actually try it, right?

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>install gentoo via usb
>works fine
>forgot to include something in the kerenl, try to use USB to chroot in again
>MACHINE CHECK ERROR
>USB refuses to become bootable
>recursive partitions or some shit
>hasn't even been touched since I used it last

It's what i get for buying my USBs from fucking woolworths.

>>58967065
install source mage

>>58967085
This.

>>58967085
Thanks for the rec but I already use void and it's hard to stoop down to other distros (like mage) once you walked amongst the clouds desu (to be honest)

>>58966990
Is not for everyone you know.

>>58967136
Void can download from fucking github, other distros could learn from it.

>>58967177
Yeah, sane people, for example.

>>58966121
Thanks for your response. I am a Linux newbie and not a programmer. Any information I find just seems to highlight support for newer hardware, while mentioning nothing about improving compatibility/performance/etc. for older hardware.

This is why I asked.

debian slow wifi, tried pinging google.com got 24k ping. windows works fine though.

>>58967646
do you have bluetooth turned on?

>>58967694
no, no bluetooth module installed. Starts off alright speeds (usual speeds for a few seconds) then becomes super slow to the point of timing out

>>58967646
what congestion control are you using?
Vegas and Westwood are good for slow/crappy connections

>>58967899
>>58967899
i have no idea what that is. Im just usiong whatevers default

So I've got my secondary hard drive mounted in /media/ but if I wanted to add more drives to my computer, where would I mount it?

>>58968362
If it's just extra storage, then wherever you feel like it really.

>>58968362
>>58968421
By the way, did you manually mount it as /media?
I don't know how other distros do it but I didn't think that was standard. I thought the standard way was to create new directories inside /media and then mount your drives on those.
For example you would create /media/external1 or something and mount your storage there. Then if you got more you could create /media/external2

Also /mnt is another place to mount things just like /media. It used to just be /mnt but newer distros started doing it in /media for some reason. Maybe it's a more user friendly name or something?

But these are just the typical uses. Like I said before you can really mount it wherever the hell you want

I can't have alsa work with my ICH7-based intel high definition audio. No sound whatsoever under any ubuntu-based distribution
And with debian it works up to the point where you mute it.

This is just crazy. It's now almost 9 years that people with ich7-ich10 family southbridges have been asking for help on any possible linux forum. And still the problem is what it was a decade ago.

After 1 day spent trying to find a solution i'm about to give up. I'm diskparting a USB dongle to shovel on Windows7 installation files...

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>laptop randomly decided to not boot from any live usb I try
>was doing it yesterday just fine
>using the same usbs loaded with the same images from yesterday

holy shit, after installing 4gb of ram on to my atom machine i can without a doubt say atoms are actually decent cpus. 1gb of ram was the bottle neck all along

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I've cloned the HDD to SSD, I want to make it so the /Home/Downloads is on HDD.
How do I go about that?

>>58968362
the easiest way to manually set up mount points for all of your removable media at once is to first create directories for each device/partition, connect everything, then run this as root:

lsblk -nds --output NAME,SIZE,UUID,FSTYPE |
grep -v swap | grep -v sda | xargs \
printf '# %s\t\t%s\n#UUID=%s\t\t%s\n' \
>>/etc/fstab

then just open your fstab and fill in/uncomment the appropriate lines.

>>58969287
if you want the whole HDD to be your Downloads folder, just mount it under ~/Downloads
if you want your Downloads folder to be on your HDD:
ln -s /media/hdd ~/Downloads
but you have to make sure that your HDD will always be mounted there because if have some automatic mounting system that decides what to call the mount points, there a non-zero chance that it can suddenly decide to change it and then the link breaks. best to define the mountpoint using UUID in your fstab because I'm pretty sure any automatic mounter would respect that.

>>58969447
>if you want the whole HDD to be your Downloads folder
This.
So I just add the UUID to etc/fstab and have th mount point as /home/downloads ?

>>58969463
well, /home/anon/downloads, I'd imagine. unless you want to do something like make a separate "downloads" user for running your torrent client as some form of "security measure"

Is Firefox free enough to be endorsed by the FSF? Why/why not?

>>58969491
I'm using T420, and upgraded the HDD to SSD, and got HDD caddy+HDD enclosure.


I'm trying to make an easy way to move my downloads around

Why doesn't Arch use the GNU coreutils? Is it a good idea?

>>58969695
GNU/Linux*

>>58969695
it does

>>58969610
I've got a T410 with a caddy (no SSD though). I didn't map to the UUID though, because, unless I've got the optical drive in at boot (which isn't the case 99% of the time and I hardly ever boot), it's going to be /dev/sdb and since I have four or five 2.5" drives lying around for various sources, it makes more sense for me to just have them all mount under /mnt/bay and not worry about UUIDs. If you plan to swap different ones in and out, consider doing that as well, because I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to have two different devices assigned to the same mount point in your fstab. Alternatively, you can give all of the drives/partitions you plan to use the same label and use Label= instead of UUID=, that way if you swap one out and put another one in, it will get mounted to the same place, and it doesn't break if for whatever reason the caddy doesn't register as sdb (like for instance if you forget to umount when you take it out and the new one gets sdc)

>>58969695
>Is it a good idea?
It invalidates the whole "GNU/Linux" argument, so, yes.

>>58969707
???

>>58969734
the installgentoo wiki says it uses busybox instead. I don't know anything about it because I'm not an arch user

>>58969762
>???
anons like to correct GNU/Linux with GNU/Linux when GNU/Linux is said. So i feel that when anons say GNU/Linux or GNU/Linux, it should be corrected with GNU/Linux.

how do I hide steam's ugly as fuck icon from the bar on the bottom of i3?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NVIDIA GIB WAYLAND SUPPORT NOW
I WANT TO USE YOUR FUCKING DRIVERS ON FEDORA, NOT NOUVEAU GARBAGE

>>58969871
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
reddit called, they want you back.

>>58969894
mixing DE's can fuck things up right. What about mixing a DE with i3? I'm using MATE right now adn don't really have a lot of things installed and I'd like to give a WM a go. I don't mind reinstalling my OS to run purely i3 if I have to.

Does Debian use non-free packages by default? Would there be much point switching to trisquel if I was trying to minimize the chance of backdoors in my system?

>>58970239
no

>>58970272
no.

the difference between trisquel and debian (or rather ubuntu since trisquel is based on it) is that with debian you are OFFERED the option to install non-free packages (like firmware) from the repository if you have an explicit wish to do so.

Trisquel simply doesn't offer you that option even if you explicitly wished to have it.

default debian installation is unaware of the non-free repository even existing. You have to add it manually.

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>Arch STILL has 4.9.8 kernel
>rest of the world already using 4.9.10
lmao, cant the arch devs even maintain their SINGLE supported kernel

>inb4 it has bugs hurrr
since when did the Arch devs have problem with breaking user systems?

>>58970303
Thanks. So I wouldn't accidentally use non-free blobs in debian, and the only reason to use trisquel is if I had a boner for ubuntu? Does running a lighter DE do much to decrease my chances of being exploited in some way?

>>58970348
i use linux-ck on arch, which is at 4.9.10

>>58970348
>rest of the world already using 4.9.10
no

>>58970393
oh shit
>rest of the carbon based world already using 4.9.10
Fixed, ty

>>58970358
>So I wouldn't accidentally use non-free blobs in debian
Impossible.

>Does running a lighter DE do much to decrease my chances of being exploited in some way?
Lol.

How do you plan to get exploited and by who/by what?

>>58970276
no what? no to mixing?

>>58970358
>muh free software debian
>doesn't even come with iwflwifi
not gonna happen with me

>>58970409
It's more that I'm trying to weigh the odds that anyone along the development chain inserted a vulnerability either by accident or intentionally, and I want to get a good sense of the balance between convenience and confidence in the OSes. Like a spectrum between windows 10 and BSD on an arm chromebook. I know the odds get a lot better when it's all open, but theoretically reducing my attack surface should help to?

>>58970239

You're already using a WM, Mate's window manager.

>>58969774
lol

thats wrong

>>58970708
>>58969774
>>58969695

It uses Busybox for the initramfs. GNU coreutils are available in the repository and part of the "core" repository which is almost always installed (pretty sure it installs it in the base install).

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/mkinitcpio#Overview

>>58970348
The archlinux devs are actually a lot more sensible when it comes to breakages and stability than most people give them credit for.
They don't recklessly push out kernel/compiler updates.

>>58970748
They intentionally broke Python.

>>58970830
Python 2 is deprecated, though.

>>58970852
>Python 2 is deprecated, though.
Do arch dev actually justify themselves with this!?

>>58970876
I honestly blame Python itself.

>>58970852
>deprecated
no such thing in programming
there are new versions of languages, but they dont deprecate older ones
that would mean that all programs written in an older language are "deprecated" aswell

>>58969602
Almost. https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/

How about a new thread?

>>58971003
how about no.

>>58971025
This thread is deprecated, though.

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14KB, 378x301px

>>58971003
This thread shall never die!

>>58971034
Hasn't been dropped by maintainers.

>>58970651
no shit

>>58971060
True, but we might have to migrate to a new server

next thread >>58971402

>>58969758
Thanks.

testing wayland on kde: really slowly getting there but still glitchy as hell:
>some windows spawn without decoration (mpv)
>undecorating windows mess them up
>interacting with panel widgets will move you to the first virtual desktop
>sometimes wayland-native windows flash rapidly 2-4 times when closed
>some menus tabs may get unresponsive forcing you to close the window
>some windows may fail to "refresh/redraw" when content changes (rarely happen)
>kwin_wayland may segfault on exit
>panel task manager show windows form others virtual desktop even when configured differently
this in what I noticed after 5 mins of usage.