http://gizmodo.com/border-agent-dem ands-nasa-scientist-unlo

>>58929735
>highly sensitive information
like fuckin what. NASA isn't some fuckin secrecy nuthole like the rest of the alphabets.

Only thing I can think of is some fuckin mil satellite contract shit

>>58929777
May be intellectual property and stuff that is pending patents there. Not something you want to get leaked.

I'm sure Russia already knows any secret NASA could possibly have.

>>58929777
So you are okay with border agents going through your electronics because nothing that important is on them?

>>58929735
why should they get a special pass for being from NASA? If i have to get a probe up my ass every one else should as well

>>58929777
>jet propulsion lab
This is 100% a military focused job. He would likely be working on our nations next generation of aerial protection.

>>58929839
Why is any American being forced to turnover passwords when they haven't committed a crime?

>>58929873
why are you asking me? ask your president
a law should apply to all either way

>>58929735
what should I prepare when I cross a border? Don't bring electronics?

>>58929914
a dumb phone or just get a cheap ass android at the duty free shop if you actually need internet access

>>58929914
Last time I went to Mexico, few weeks ago, they just asked for ID and what I was bringing back. (bottle of tequila in a bag)
They didn't even look in the bag.

Helps to be white.

>>58929777
NASA is a military agency that is disguised as a civilian agency.

>>58929735
What, exactly does Trump have to do with any of this?

>>58929914
If you do make sure to leave your MAGA hentai tabs open.

If you have a locked bag, they can ask you to open it. WTF is the difference with a phones?

If he had sensitive info. He could have gotten papers to bypass the check.

>>58930305
This. This an USA being paranoid issue, nothing to do with Trump. They've been pulling this shit since 9/11

why use a picture of a TSA agent instead of a border agent, then? helps to identify the enemy correctly.

>>58929839
well, NASA isn't for chumps, and I'm sure you're aware of that

what you're asking is along the lines of
>why should those who have legitimate reason to not want to compromise their sensitive info not have to compromise their sensitive info

????

should doctors have to submit to this?
lawyers with client files?
corporate employees with internal information?

I don't think it is fair that the privileged few should get a free pass and not the average joe, but there are legitimate reasons as to why some shouldn't have to do so

>>58930444
It's not an issue of being privileged. It's the fact that he is clearly a US citizen (he works for the fucking president). So what business does any authority have going through his phone?

>>58930480
Ask the Supreme Court.

>>58929735
Asking to search a person's device is nothing new. I remember going through customs in Canada a few years ago and I saw a person's laptop was being searched. They asked if I had any devices such as a laptop or phone on me so they could check mine, and as I did have my phone on me I allowed them to search it.

>>58930480
99% of the terrorism activities in the US are carried out by US citizens so...

>>58930331
no, leave some gay and tranny porn, and some swj blog open too, they will just be sorry for you and release you.

also, just erase any IM chat histroy, logoff the apps, and warn close friends to not message you for a day, or just remove the SIM chip, they can inpect your device all they want they wont be able to go into a room and send messages to your friends and try to produce evidence against you

>>58933146
>close friends
Lol

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Is there actually law that allows US border agents to snoop through my device and forbid entry If I don't comply?

I'm not talking about the usual "please turn on your device to proof there's no explosives inside" but genuine "unlock your phone and let me have a quick look on your photos and documents".

Especially If I'm not a US citizen?

Asking since I'm planning to visit US soon (friend).
I probably won't bring my phone since it wouldn't work anyway but I'm sure as fuck not comfortable with some pig browsing my torrented movie folder

And that's why you just insert a factory-fresh HDD into your laptop before traveling and wipe your phone - you can redownload your furry porn from your personal server once you're passed the Glory To Arstotzka checkpoint.

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY DEVICES AND ONLINE SERVICES DON'T ALLOW YOU TO USE A DURESS CODE?

LIKE TWITTER COULD LET YOU SET A REAL PASSWORD AND A DURESS PASSWORD, AND THE DURESS PASSWORD WOULD JUST PLOP YOU INTO A DUMMY PROFILE OR SOMETHING WITH NO ABILITY TO CHANGE ANYTHING. OR IT WOULD DO THAT AND TWEET "HEY FOLKS I'M BEING INTERROGATED UNDER DURESS PLEASE FIND ME AND SEND HELP"

WHY IS THIS NOT A THING?

ALSO DOWN THE ROAD I NEED TO GET HELP FINDING THE CAPS LOCK KEY ON MY KEYBOARD.

>>58933189
yes. they could turn you away if you don't comply, plus you get counted as deported

>>58933189
As I understand it, the gist of it is that US laws don't actually apply until you're within the borders, so the border agents can do pretty much whatever they please.

>>58929735
>/g/

>>58933232
I'm curious why you couldn't just have a secondary bait phone altogether with no password on it and some fake data to make it look legit

Wait I thought botnet talk about google facebook and government was all tinfoil? Which is it now? Where were you when this actually mattered in the 80's and 90's? If you weren't old enough to enact change then I would ask why you don't support people who support those views. Such as Ron/Rand Paul. If you aren't American then I would shut the fuck up since Europe clearly is just as if not more of a police state than the USA since they have no rights or protections like free speech and a second amendment. The UK is a perfect example of the Orwellian/Huxley nightmare that's right under your nose.

>>58929735
Why is his job relevant? I'm pretty sure any board authority in the world has the right to search your devices.

>>58930444
You're taking it out of context though, they asked him to turn it on and unlock it to make sure it won't blow up like they do with anyone else not to read some document about spy satellite blueprints that the TSA nigger that barely finished HS won't even understand.
Also if you carry secret documents on you you're a retard.
If everyone else has to turn on their phone or laptop then no one should be above the law just cause of where they work.

>>58933287
fuck it then lmao

>land of the free

>>58933338
Well, the issue with that is that they go through your luggage (including carry-on) and they would ask to go through your "secondary" phone as well once they find it. Sometimes you'll run into customs agents who don't fully go through your bag, but sometimes they rip it completely apart and look in every nook and cranny. It would be easier keeping any risky information off your phone and storing it elsewhere temporarily, then moving it back once you get past them. If the information is so risky or personal that you wouldn't want to store it on a cloud service then you're kinda fucked.

>>58933338
BECAUSE THEY WOULD FIND THE MAIN PHONE AFTER LIKE HALF A SECOND LOOKING AT THE X-RAY OF MY CARRY ON.

EVEN IF I HID IT ON MY PERSON, THEY MIGHT FIND IT SOME OTHER WAY, POSSIBLY BY LUCK, AND IN ANY CASE I'D BE SO FUCKED BEYOND BELIEF. TRYING TO SMUGGLE A SMARTPHONE PAST BORDER PATROL IS A LOT SHADIER-SOUNDING THAN REFUSING TO UNLOCK MY PHONE FOR THEM.

I JUST WANT TO HAVE AN AMICABLE INTERACTION WITH BORDER PATROL. THEY ASK ME TO UNLOCK MY PHONE, AND I UNLOCK THE PHONE. THEY ASK ME TO GIVE THEM MY TWITTER PASSWORD, AND I GIVE THEM MY TWITTER PASSWORD. BUT IN ALL OF THESE CASES, I GIVE THEM A DURESS PASSWORD, AND THE DEVICES DON'T WORK 10 MINUTES LATER, OR THEY CALL OUT TO A LAWYER OR FRIENDS OR WHATEVER.

THAT'S ALL I WANT. WHOM SHOULD I CONTACT. I HAVE FRIENDS IN TECH ACTUALLY MAYBE I SHOULD TALK TO THEM DIRECTLY.

>>58933536
Most people are retards, if you're going around with dangerous info and need to set foot in a US airport then you just hide the stuff in a microSD card and hide it inside the clip of your belt, then just buy a crappy android phone on your destination.

>>58929735
> works for the man
> gets fucked by the man

What's wrong with some good old karma?

>>58933580
Do they really ask for your social media account information? The last time I was traveling I only had a dumbphone that couldn't go online so I'm not sure what exactly they do. Pretty sure they browse your saved images and texts though.

>>58933592
NOT THAT GUY YOU'RE REPLYING TO BUT I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING SUSPICIOUS OR SHADY. I'M JUST A LAW-ABIDING AMERICAN-BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN OF WONDERFULLY PRIVILEGED WHITE HERITAGE. I DON'T EVEN HAVE ANYTHING ILLICIT OR OBJECTIONABLE IN MY SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS OR ON MY LAPTOP/SMARTPHONE. ALL OF THE REALLY OBJECTIONABLE STUFF IS SAFELY STORED ON MY DESKTOP.

I JUST HAPPEN TO NOT WANT TO GIVE UP MY PASSWORDS, AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE TO CHANGE ALL OF MY PASSWORDS EVERY TIME I TRAVEL JUST BECAUSE OF BORDER PATROL

>>58933602
THIS HAS ALL BEEN HAPPENING IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE MOSTLY JUST TARGETING FOREIGN-SOUNDING/LOOKING PEOPLE RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT FLAT-FOOTED, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

>>58933618
>LAW-ABIDING AMERICAN-BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN
>doesn't wanna abide by the law when it comes to airports

So what do they do? Go through your texts or photos? Or do you only need to show them your home screen?

>>58929777
>NASA isn't some fuckin secrecy nuthole like the rest of the alphabets

That's what they want you to think.

>>58929735
Since 911 people crossing the border have had no rights. Doesn't matter if you are citizen or not or which way you are going.

>>58933439
For what? The only possible reason would be for identification. Are you telling me people with the secrets in our rocket research aren't flagged when they are traveling abroad?

>>58930349
>He could have gotten papers to bypass the check.

He did. He's a member of Global Entry (https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/global-entry).

>>58933646
THERE ARE A FEW THINGS TO UNPACK IN YOUR LAZY POST:

1) AS FAR AS I KNOW, GIVING A DURESS CODE ISN'T AGAINST THE LAW. THEY ASK FOR A PASSWORD TO UNLOCK THE DEVICE, AND I DO THAT. IT'S JUST A LIMITED UNLOCK.

2) IF THEY WANTED TO BROWSE AROUND, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT. WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR INSTEAD IS A COPY OF THE KEYS, AND I FIGURE A COURT WOULD AGREE WITH ME ON THIS, BUT I'M NOT ITCHING TO PAY LEGAL FEES RIGHT NOW

3) I THINK IT WAS OBVIOUS TO NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS THAT I'M LAW-ABIDING INASMUCH AS I'VE DONE NOTHING UP TILL NOW TO PROMPT INVESTIGATORY ACTION BY BORDER PATROL

>>58929777
nasa branch jpl, or jet propulsion lab is is where all jet/rocket booster/missile/shuttle engines are developed. the plans for which are only passed on to contractors who have passed the required security checks, besides that all of the letter agencies are very territorial about shit

>>58933718
You don't wanna give up your keys so you're not a law abiding citizen, sorry.
When the police get an judicial order to check your house you gotta give them the keys, TSA agents have judicial orders on everyone so you're not abiding by the law and therefore you are a white trash criminal.

How the hell are border agents supposed to even know what to do? It seems like their job changes everyday for the last 3 weeks.

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>>58933760
Not just your keys, pretty much anything the police feel like taking. Trump's got their back.

>>58933760
but they don't actually have that order backing them and are far overstepping their authority by pretending they do.
also
>implying the police knock or use keys instead of busting down the door guns blazin

>>58933760
And you're an idiot. Just because he doesn't WANT to give up the keys doesn't mean he won't do that if legally required. "Law-abiding" does not mean "I want to suck the cock of every law-enforcement officer who talks to me"

>>58933760
TSA HAVE RIGHTS TO SEARCH MY THINGS, BUT RETAINING THE KEYS IS NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE PATRIOT ACT OR ANY OTHER LAW EMPOWERING TSA.

I'M REALLY NOT INTERESTED IN BIKESHEDDING, SO IF ALL YOU'VE GOT TO OFFER IS LEGAL CRITIQUE FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY, THEN AT LEAST GET A JD OR SOMETHING. OTHERWISE, CHILL OUT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY ASK YOUR OPINION ON THIS DIMENSION AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE UNFAIR TO SAY NOBODY ELSE WANTS IT EITHER

>>58933814
Just calm down now Skeeter, TSA ain't hurting no body

>>58933656
The TSA will just see if the device works as they don't have the time and education to search your electronics.
The CBS on the other hand will copy all your data somewhere to search for hints of CP, terrorism, communism, etc.
If you refuse to hand over your passwords you'll be denied entry and your stuff will get confiscated.
If you lie about forgetting your password you'll be detained, your stuff will get confiscated and you'll be charged.

The chances are low that you'll get picked if you're a white male, but if you're worried just don't travel to the US with your primary laptop/cellphone or factory reset your hardware and download your private data afterwards.

>>58929735

>Everyone who travel now required to unlock their phone at border
>someone browse /b/ at their phone
>Forgot that he scroll over loli thread in there
>Border find naked loli inside your phone browser history cache.

I for one glad if anyone of you guys got fucked over this.

Fucking finally.

>>58929914
Bleach your skin senpai.

>>58933789
>>58933796
>>58933784
GUYS I ASKED ABOUT DURESS CODES. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT OR DO YOU WANT TO KEEP SLAPPING YOUR DICKS AGAINST THE WALL TALKING ABOUT WHETHER A LAWYER COULD GET US CONVICTED IN COURT? PROTIP: HE PROBABLY COULD, UNLESS YOU HAVE A BETTER LAWYER.

LET'S JUST FOCUS ON THE THINGS WE MAYBE HAVE AN OUTSIZE INFLUENCE ON: THE TECHNOLOGY. CAN WE DISCUSS A TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A DURESS CODE FALLBACK, THAT PLATFORMS, SERVICES, AND DEVICES COULD THEORETICALLY ADOPT?

IF ANYONE WANTS TO DISCUSS LAW, I'M SURE THE RANDOM BOARD IS EAGER TO TAKE YOU.

>>58933862
ha! you think you or anyone else has a chance of convincing the corporate world to mas produce something which would piss of da gubment and could potentially be illegal

>>58933862
The most you will get is corporations refusing to hack your shit. Like Apple, who Trump called unpatriotic and shit, because they wouldn't break into someone's phone for the police.

>>58933889
A LOT OF SOFTWARE IS OPEN SOURCE, AND COMPANIES HAVE NEVER TAKEN LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR HOW USERS USE THEIR PRODUCTS

SERIOUSLY CHAMP, YOU CAN SIT THIS ONE OUT.

>>58933839
I've heard of TSA but not CBS, who are literal whos?

>>58933922
IS THAT THE MOST I'LL GET FROM YOU IN THE DIRECTION OF FLESHING OUT A STANDARD PROTOCOL FOR A DURESS FALLBACK? ARE YOU LIKE SOME KIND OF LAZY IMMIGRANT OR SOMETHING?

>>58933934
you're the one who should sit it out with your caps talkin not shit knowin ass

If the Republican party won't protect us from big gubment than who will?

>>58933945
you don't get it, a duress code essentially constitutes destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice

>>58929777
>tfw nasa is hiding the second half of the alphabet
>tfw we'll never see those top secret alien letters

>>58933967
>destruction of evidence
He's been talking about a password that offers limited access. Nobody's mentioned destroying anything. Read up a few posts before commenting (or read up more, if you "did already")

>>58929735
>Trumps
No. This has nothing to do with Trump. Absolutely nothing.

>>58929735
What a fucking shithole America is.

>>58933639
I'll have to keep that in mind for when I eventually start traveling again then. Thank you.

>>58930444
>should doctors have to submit to this?
>lawyers with client files?
>corporate employees with internal information?
Everyone when they pass customs is potentially subject to a full search even of secured documents.

Is it fair? Maybe not. Is that the established law? Damn right it is.

>>58933700
Why would he be carrying secrets? You really think that the best way for NASA to move important data is to give it to a swarthy Arab and sent him through airport security?

Look this is not Trump's fault. The TSA is only there to harass you cause they got a deadend shitty job and they are drunk on power. They already act like complete dicks to US citizens that have traveled abroad for many months at a time and when they reenter. Let's not sit here with these terrible opinion pieces on big meanie Trump and act like the TSA were fucking saints before Trump took office. You faggots forgetting how TSA started to grope women and look at your private parts through scanners recently under Obama? Fuck outta here with your stupid shit.

>>58933754
>>58933669
>>58930184
>>58929855
Good to see that /sci/ has literally no idea what JPL does nowadays and so immediately goes /x/-tier

>>58929735
wtf I hate trump now!

>>58929735
wtf i love Trump now!!!
cuck the govt workers!!!

>>58934118
you're painting us into a corner by suggesting that only white people can be trusted to transport data around. pretty soon we'll be trying to fight off being turned into a race of mail couriers.

and i doubt that NASA is saying "hey mohammed transport these documents for us", but they're saying "hey you have access to files wherever you go via VPN and SSH and shit, but also you have a copy on your computer, but in all cases don't be a retard and give these files to high school dropouts at the airport"

NASA is a mistake anyway.

No one actually really care about space travel.

>>58933592
They'll see something weird on your belt in the x-ray scanner, and you'll be detained for hours instead of minutes

>>58934278
speak for yourself, fatty

>>58934282
yeah nah, i travel a lot and they've never ever made me take off my belt

>>58934293

Do you see anyone in this place actually care about your group of NERDS playing with fireworks that cost gorillions dollars for each launch?
And they excuses is "we gonna save the planet from global warming" bullshit.

FUCK YOU! Get real.

>>58934282
This. If you're going to try to smuggle something past border guards in any country, don't put yourself in a situation where getting caught makes it impossible for you to claim stupidity. a hidden MicroSD card in the clip of your belt screams to authorities "You've caught a real life pedophile, guys!! you're going to get a promotion for arresting me!"

hide it in a way that won't look too incriminating if you're caught (until, of course, they find the cp; then you're just fucked)

>wants to make america great agin
>america is a country founded on its notions of freedom
>takes away freedoms
?????????

>>58934329
who at NASA is claiming to solve global warming? stop eating twinkies, fatty.

>>58934318
>yeah nah, i travel a lot and they've never ever made me take off my belt
lol what? they make you take your belt off all the time at the security checkpoint going in.

why would you lie in such a stupidly disprovable way?

>>58934381

>Keep spreading propaganda about how earth is warming in each years using their satellite.

And then there is bullshit begging about "plz fund our mars travel project"
Holy fuck, what a fucking wasted of money just for visiting a FUCKING DRY LAND.

I HOPE TRUMP STOP ANY FUTURE SPACE PROJECT.

EAT SHIT.

>>58929735
Are the left seriously trying to pin this on Trump?

Journalism is pure propaganda.

>>58934318
They literally always make you take off your belt, it's standard procedure for TSA

>>58934394
this

>>58934410
If you ever got out of your basement, you might realize that having GPS and shit is pretty nice.

>>58934518

If you are not a lazy fuck, you also don't need a GPS just like people from 50 years ago.

"LOOK MOM, I CAN SEE DIRECTION ON MY PHONE"
"FUCK ROAD SIGNS AND NAMES"

I bet the top of Putin's list for Trump was to destroy NASA from the inside.

>>58934555
If you aren't lazy fuck, you also don't need the internet. You can just use letters and phone to communicate with people.

>>58934589
You don't need phones and shit just use morse code

>>58934597

>Not using smoke signs.

Border/Customs & TSA agents are the biggest spastics in the federal government.

I've worked for the Post Office, and even postal speds are light years ahead of the average TSA and Border/Customs agent.

They detained me despite knowing that I was a USPS employee because I was in the Philippines and accused me of a being a drug trafficker.

>>58929927
reinstalled android phone without anything on it and everything saved on a encrypted microsd that you send with snailmail

>>58933580
facebook will ban you if you give away your password

>>58934646
>They detained me despite knowing that I was a USPS employee because I was in the Philippines and accused me of a being a drug trafficker.

How did you get out of the Philippines alive after being accused as a drug trafficker?

>>58934675

I got detained after I entered back into the United States. This was when Obama was still in office, but the Philippine and Japanese airport security didn't give a damn about me.

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Hmmm this sounds like an invasio-
>Sidd Bikkannavar
Now I understand why - carry on.

>>58934741
One day it will happen to Chad Smith and you will care.

>>58934410
THE TWINKIES, FATTY. STOP EATING THEM

>>58929735
Finally normies will learn what plausible deniability is.

>>58934783
It revolts me that people think this is new. It's been going on since 2001 at least. Tons of people get harassed like this.
I'm so sick of you people trying to wipe history clean of government misdoings because a new example pops up. Let it fucking accumulate.

>>58934646

TSA agents are power tripping minimum wagers. I really wish people would stop flying and refuse to fly again until DHS is abolished.

>>58934937

What's the problem? If you haven't done anything wrong then you have nothing to fear.

>>58934986
;) epic lulz i get that reference

>>58934986
To think that back in 2008 I thought trolling was at an ultimate low. You're literally just referencing old arguments now.

>>58934937
What does it matter? Isn't Trump supposed to fix it? Republicans were being held back by Obama.

>>58935072
I'm not sure Trump is ever gonna be intent on fixing any sort of issues in a manner that lets him actually do that.

Anyone can throw an idea at a problem, but it's analysing the idea and refining it that's the actual process of solving the situation.

If he can't even make a Muslim ban work what hope is there?

>>58929735
Good. About time rule of law was brought back

>>58935174
It would indeed be ironic if, in the name of national defense, we would sanction the subversion of those liberties which make the defense of the nation worthwhile.

I suspect in maybe 30 years the US will be similar to that starship troopers movie.

>>58935240
>aim for the nerve stem

>>58935240
gaining citizenship only by service.

>>58934225
wrong board m8

>>58934272
No, I'm saying that having a person carry important data on them is fucking retarded. The Arab through an airport is just another layer retardation.

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Why can't you set up your phone to have 2 passwords

one to wipe all your data

one to access the device

backup your data before you leave and you can go anywhere with anything in this manner

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What if you get a laptop that has 2 internal hard drives, leave one unplugged. They will never notice that not even in an xray, just give them access to your boot drive or,

put a small coating of wax on the prongs of the sd card in your phone, then it will pass xray and when they download your data they wont see the sd card?

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>>58935527
>>58935553

>>58934720
>I got detained after I entered back into the United States. This was when Obama was still in office, but the Philippine and Japanese airport security didn't give a damn about me.

what made them suspect you

>>58935614
He reeked like curry.

>>58929735
AMERIFATS
KEKED
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>>58929735
>Unlock phone or go to gulag

>>58929735
>natural born US citizne
>has a terrorist ass sounding name

he deserved it DESU, the dude probably looks terrorist as fuck too

Trump is dumb

>>58935527
>wipe data that the police has just requested in front of them
>not getting your bumhole raped in jail for a few years
Pick 1 (one)

>>58935527
because destroying evidence is a crime, retard

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>>58929735
>muh NASA JPL


daily reminder that NASA's security is a joke


fuck off with your over-rated "muh highly sensitive info"

>>58930480

>he is clearly a US citizen (he works for the fucking president).

Noncitizens can work for the president.

Trump is an idiot and /pol/ fucked up.

>>58936813
How can you destroy evidence if you're not even accused of a crime?

>>58938040
the only official notion of being accused of a crime is being indicted, and the police never indict someone before searching for evidence. they search for evidence to use to substantiate an indictment.

what country are you in? this is pretty basic american legal stuff.

>>58929735
>NASA engineer
>Doesn't know he's not required to unlock shit

This is why we currently don't have a fucking manned rocket.

>>58933217
Go a step further and install a live copy of linux to said hdd and loses it's settings on reboot.

>>58938060
>this is pretty basic american legal stuff.

No, it isn't. The only charges brought against someone for destroying digital information not part of an active investigation are under the Sarbanes–Oxley Act, which I would hardly consider basic legal knowledge.

>>58929735
>implying it was any different under Obongo

Congress and dipshit Federal judges have been eroding constitutional rights since 9/11.

>muh terrorism!
>muh war on teh drugz!
>muh traffiking!

Meanwhile...
* We've immigrated Muslim "refugees" from radicalized parts of the world with no background checks.
* Drugs enter our country by the metric ton.
* Anyone trafficking sex slaves has a hundred options including Mexican 'coyotes' along a completely unsecured southern border.

But it's CRITICAL that you surrender your rights so we can be safe!

America is full of stupid.

>>58933189
>Asking since I'm planning to visit US soon (friend).

Have your friend visit you. Absent that, ship any sensitive devices, then ship them back home. There's still a risk of your shit landing in the wrong hands, but if everything is encrypted then you privacy will be intact and you won't be refused entry because "muh authoriteh."

This started years ago. Did the american left started caring about privacy or is just "bad because trump"?

>>58933944
TSA (Transportation Security Administration) are the people in OP's pic, and are unarmed. They are stationed at every airport, and also other major transportation hubs like passenger rail stations etc. They check various forms of identification, boarding passes, and do a physical security screening that includes x-rays for personal effects and a scan of people themselves. If they are suspicious, they'll pull you aside for a patdown or take you to a closed room and tell you to open your bags. The TSA checks people traveling domestically, within the US.

CBP (Customs and Border Patrol) are the very first people you talk to when entering the US from a foreign country. They are armed, usually wear some kind of tactical vest that says CBP, and most importantly are federal law enforcement officers. They will ask you specific questions about why you're entering the US; if you're a returning US citizen, they'll ask what you were doing in a foreign country, why you were there (business or pleasure), who you were visiting, who you work for, and the general nature of your trip. The details aren't too important to them, they're just watching your reaction and seeing if your story adds up when they ask about something from multiple angles. If you're not a US citizen, they'll grill you about where you're from and why you're visiting the US, who you're going to see, and what you're planning on doing during your stay. Again, they pay attention to your answers not because each person might be doing something suspicious within the US, but because they're trying to see if there are inconsistencies in your story. If for each question they ask you have to come up with a lengthy explanation that adds complexity to your trip's story, they'll keep asking until they're satisfied or they take you to a holding room to bring in a professional interrogator or "interviewer". If that happens, they're going to run all kinds of background checks on you and it will probably take hours.

>>58929777
You need to pull your head out of your ass cunt. NASA is secretive as fuck. And it's good everyone is treated equally.

>>58938629
Does CBP still ask if you're a commie or not because I heard they still do.

>>58938662
If they do then it's because they have to.

>>58938629
So if a Canadian visits the US, will they run into a CBP or just TSA?

>>58935201
I was speaking more about all government representatives being subject to the same laws as everyone else.

>>58938669
What would happen if I decided to be a smarmy cunt and say yes? Is that enough to say nope not allowed back in the country?

>>58938662
I can only speak for myself, but the few times I've gone through I haven't heard them ask anyone about their political leanings. Maybe if you're coming from a former Soviet bloc country they would ask about communism to watch your reaction, but they mainly seem to be interested in where you're coming from, who you work for, who you're going to see, and what you're going to do.

>>58938748
If you cross the US-Canadian border, you'll have to stop for the CBP and they'll ask what you're going to do in the US, and might also ask to search your vehicle. TSA doesn't exist along the border because although there are ports of entry (CBP), there aren't major transportation hubs (TSA). If you were a Canadian flying into the US, first you'd run into CBP like everyone else, then you'd also have to go through the TSA, just like everyone else.

>>58929735
>do full backup of phone
>encrypt, upload to some host
>wipe phone to clean state
>restore once through
>wam bam tyvm
Process is similar enough for a laptop if you're running linux but you could probably get away with backing up and wiping your home folder.

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All of you dumbfucks need to think about this for a moment. The guy has higher security clearance that the boarder guards. The information stored on his devices relates to rocket technology. If he had schematics for rockets powerful enough to get into space, those could fall into the hands of a country like North Korea who would add a nuclear warhead to the design and aim these things at the American mainland. The border guards don't have clearance and should not be trusted with this kind of information. Just look at the cold war. It wouldn't be the first time someone mishandled or sold top secret data, giving it to the other side that wants to kill us. You're fucking idiots. The NASA nigger should not open his phone for those fucking powertripping tools. Border guards need to learn their place and their value. Fuck you all and good night.

>>58929735
>Work for NASA
>Get stopped by TSA
>They ask to look at confidential information
now the route he took:
>Whine about it to the media because he has a bone to pick with the immigration restrictions
or the route he could have took:
>Call his superiors and have them talk to the TSA management directly
>TSA fuckwad gets a phone call
>"Sorry sir, you're free to go"

this article is fucking nothing, I've been detained before because I grew a beard on vacation.

>>58939431
>>Get stopped by TSA
Since you couldn't be bothered to read the first 2 words in the article I'm not going to bother reading past this.

>>58939450
both agencies work at border facilities and the photo is of a TSA agent, sue me. replace TSA with US Border Patrol

>>58939431
>implying you can make phone calls in secondary screening
>implying anyone will know you're in secondary until you get out

You realize that in secondary screening, you have almost no rights?
>can be detained for arbitrary periods of time, basically as long as they feel like it
>no right to contact embassy of your nationality if you're a foreigner
>no right to a lawyer
>property isn't protected by 4th amendment

>>58929735
>Bikkannavar
keep him out

>>58938629
Wow, CBP is harsh for Americans.

Australians have a right to enter (return) to our country and the government has no authority to demand passports, travel details etc... We can demand re-entry unobstructed.

The only lawful delay they can bring is if they doubt you are an Australian citizen and once confirmed cannot obstruct without backed up suspicion of a crime.

I've travel by yacht to visit PNG and Indonesia many times over 30 years and don't have a passport. This has pissed off many petty gov workers when told to piss off as I return.

>>58939553
>not carrying your government ID in a government facility

>>58939588
>needing to carry a JPL ID on vacation
>implying that would have helped when the retards that staff CBP don't even know what JPL is

>>58929873
Because a decade and a half ago some dudes flew a plane into a building, killing almost three thousand people. This caused public outcry as muslims, unlike cars, which killed 42 thousand that year, have no lobbyists to silence the media and the politicians

>>58939584
That sounds nice anon

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>>58929873
>Why is any American being forced to turnover passwords when they haven't committed a crime?
They might be enemies of our god-emperor. (also he's brown I'm guessing)

>>58929735
>American got deteined in airport
>#muslim ban affects america too!
>friendly fire in iraq killed over 1000 american soldiers
>oops

>>58934639
>not using elephant mating signals

>>58929735
>The scientist wasn't even returning from the banned regions.
It's almost as if phone searching was a thing before trump