>lightweight >customizable >infinite possibilities >only

xfce4 is the best

>>58929649
because as much as I like XFCE it's not for everyone. Some people don't like fiddling around to get a compositor without tearing, most people just want an animeshitmachine and other DEs serve that pretty well compared to XFCE. I do love me some XFCE+Compton though, shit's smooth and lightweight (300mb RAM on Boot)

don't forget easy to use

>>58929716
this, unless you're really shit with computers XFCE is goat. Sister learnt linux using it after I forgot to boot on my windows partition

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Why is xfce so fucking comfy?
What's behind this feeling when you boot into xfce, enter your user password and are greeted with your costumized desktop. You instantly feel a deep relaxation as if the world is on pause.
Nothing comes close in terms of DE comfyness.

I hope xfce never dies

>>58929758
kys overwatch

>>58929649
no wayland support

wayland more like wayshit
XD

Because Openbox and dmenu exist.

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>>58929809
>stop liking what I don't like

>>58929836

I'm already on OpenBSD, so I already have Xenocara. I don't need Wayland.

Also, if you too wanna install XFCE on OpenBSD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC5D9fenQBs

>>58929649

Enjoy screen tearing

>>58929856
BSD sucks. GNU is life brother.

Sound is fucking broken from the start
>Press mute button
>Sound is muted
>Press it again to unmute it
>Sound stays muted

Pain in the ass

>>58929915
>BSD sucks
Yes it does. Never come close to it. Stay away from us.

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>>58929758
mercy main btw

>>58929649
Doesn't support HiDPI.

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>>58929649

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>>58929976
>mercy main btw

mein neger

>>58929649
because I use mate, mate

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>MMXVII
>not using Lumina DE

>>58929649
Why would anyone use a DE?

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>>58929649
I would use it if you could make Super+Down shortcut that does the same thing as windows 7 and unity.
Apparently you can't, therefore, pic related

>>58930146
You can retard.

>>58930373
How?

Thunar used to be great but is now just a horrible broken mess.

It's good, I used for years. KDE is better for me right now, though.

>>58929649
it was the last DE I used before leaving DEs entirely for dwm. haven't used a DE since, but if I did it would probably be to try either LXQt or the new Enlightenment

>>58929649
Meh, I use it when I don't want to fuck around with stumpwm.

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>>58929649
>tfw using xfce for two years now and no reason to change

>>58929649
>why would anyone use any other DE?
Because someone may want a working file picker and prefer not having screen tearing out of the box.

>>58929888

You can eliminate it on the GPU driver level (Intel and Nvidia at least).
You can eliminate it on the compositor level in X (Compton for example).
You can eliminate it by using Wayland (when they write a Wayland compositor).

Enjoy being an idiot who cockily posts misinformation, retard.

What screen tearing

I have no screen tearing on xfce

>>58929649
Why should I use a DE? Lightweight and customizeable sounds like I want to use a WM.

isn't LXDE with lubuntu more lightweight?

>>58930639
Or you could just use a real operating system instead of figuring out how to fix this open sores garbage.

DEs were a mistake

Nothing but a bunch of shitty dependencies and bloat for people who still miss their shitty Windows machine

Linux on the desktop would be much better if people stopped trying to turn their OS into a bloated compis mess that resembles the shitty and inneficient GUI pholosophy

>>58929649
It's dead.

>>58930014
krunner is great, but a lot of it's functions depend on the background indexing crap like baloo & friends.
You can teach the xfce launcher some nice tricks too.

>>58929649
Is it possible to retain the awesome multiscreen capability of i3 if you use it as a window manager with xfce?
I can hardly imagine anything better.

>>58931744
In the past, I successfully removed baloo and used the fsrunner plugin to find files.
My point is that krunner does everything instantly and automatically.
calculations go to the clipboard, files launch, windows gets priority, new application gets launched etc.
Can the xfce do calculations in the same way?

>>58930639

>still tearing
>still tearing
>using incompatible compositor with legacy shit X

So, this is the correct decision >>58931418

>>58931418
A DE is not an operating system.

>>58929649
>>lightweight
Relative to kde and gnome sure, but lxde and window managers are more lightweight.
>>customizable
xfce and mate are honestly the least customizable DEs.
>>infinite possibilities
Explain.
>>only as bloated as you want it to be
If you "unbloat" xfce to a certain point, it will stop being xfce.

>why would anyone use any other DE?
There's a 101 reasons why, and they mostly center on xfce being dated in terms of features and bugs.

Posted from my xubuntu laptop.

>>58931914
Find files, yes. But you strip it of functionality like searching through contacts, emails, and more, which would be great if it worked properly.

>Can the xfce do calculations in the same way?
Not that well, but it it still ok
http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-appfinder/preferences
https://wiki.xfce.org/tips#do_maths_with_xfrun4appfinder

>why would anyone want to use a DE
ftfy

>>58932042
>https://wiki.xfce.org/tips#do_maths_with_xfrun4appfinder
just looking at the implementation, it just parses stuff to bc (which could be changed to python, R or whatever you want)
But is it instant?

>>58932288
Yes, you write command or expression, execute it by pressing enter, the string gets processed by rules you can define and then custom scripts can be launched.
If you mean instant like processed while you are typing then no.

>>58930002
It's fine with some tinkering. Title bars will always be fucked though

>>58932396
Yes, instant means you instantly gets result, or real time feedback, as in you process the input after every new character in the input.
Pressing enter to get the results is not just inconvenient, it is near unusable.

I don't know why they don't just implement it.
Is there any kind of computer user that never uses calculators?

Why should I use this instead of MATE?

>>58932653
You shouldn't. You should use Lumina.

>>58932624
Why do you find it near unusable? It's handy for quick calculations. For more complex use you can just open the calculator of your choice directly.

>>58932706
I often use the calculator in krunner.
Some times it is a quick calculation, other times I need to do a lengthy summation either way, instant results are much faster and it means you can make corrections without having to constantly copy paste.

On non kde systems, I have used dmenu to create the same thing, but I constantly find myself opening a new calculator window over and over again.

>>58929649
Should I uninstall Unity for XFCE OP ? It seems awesome

>>58929758
Whats that icon theme? My xfce doesnt look as comfy

Because Cinnamon is superior.

>>58933290
numix circle, I think

>>58929649
because gnome shell is all those things and more

>>58930443
Ignore that dumbass, I just got used to super+up toggling between doing what super+up and super+down do on windows and it isn't that bad desu

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>>58929649
>why would anyone use any other DE?- 60 posts and 8 image replies shown.
I don't want my DE to look like it's from 2002 and was written in Delphi.

Seriously, it's got THE UGLIEST UI elements of any DE. Icons on buttons? What year is it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?

>>58933860
It uses the same UI elements as any GTK based desktop. Install a theme.

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>>58933396
>Because Cinnamon is superior.
this guy knows. Cinnamon + a good theme (like Arc of Arc-Flatabulous) is superior in every which way possible and it also doesn't look like shit.

>Looks like shit
>Shitty plasma panel wannabe
>No compositor (compton doesn't count because it's shit and it isn't spelled kwin)
All in all a poor man's kde/plasma. Can't even beat gnome for fucks sake. Get your act together gtk folks.

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>>58929649
I'm using it right now, very confy.

I use GNOME3.

>>58931486
What do you suggest?

>>58934176
install a window manager and the programs you use?

>>58934239
Sorry noob here, i'm not getting the diference between window manager and DE, wehat does the DEs do that WMs doesn't?

>>58934260
de provides a panel/notification area, and autostarts services like wif and shit. you'll have to set all that up manually if you use just a wm, and by the time you're done you have what constitutes a personalized de

>>58934260
a DE is a bunch of programs on top of a window manager. for a lightweight install, you may wish to pick only a WM, and then the programs you use on top of that. Openbox for example is a window manager, and xfce/gnome etc are DE's.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/18078/what-is-the-difference-between-a-desktop-environment-and-a-window-manager

>>58934299
thank you that was helpful.

>>58934326
thanks.
does it have more than just the windows? I'm assuming that if i want some panel to put icons i have to install it?

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>using XFCE
>when MATE exists in the same timeline

>>58934299
>>58934326
Thank you guys, gonna try using a WM

>>58934405
the WM will only do windows. you must install a panel in order to use a panel, such as lxpanel or pypanel. same for things like file managers, desktop backgrounds etc.

>>58929649
>gtk2

>>58930446
What's wrong with new Thunar?

I'm on Debian stable on old Xfce and Thunar and it's good.

What should I expect to break when I upgrade to the latest Xfce and Thunar?

why not pick a WM and the programs you want (text editor, file manager, etc)

xfce or lxde?

fyi there's a recent patch to Thunar that finally fixes the file moving/whatever crashes

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12260

used the patch in muh gentoo and no crashes anymore

>>58934634
xfce with pcmanfm + gpicview, best of both.
>>58934662
I switched to pcmanfm because of this, It's way better imo.

>>58929649
Because Gnome 3, MATE and i3wm exist.
xfce is a shit.

>>58934425
I recommend fluxbox - very lightweight, easy to configure menus and keybindings, you can tab windows together, has a built-in panel & tray, can remember window properties, very customisable
Only thing it isn't is a tiling wm
Most of the default styles are ugly but if you Google there's a site with lots of styles that aren't and they are very easy modify/create yourself if you want to spend time doing so.

>>58933065
just install it and use it seperately for a week or two and decide if it's right for you.

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pretty comfy-desu

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>>58929649

>>58929758
>virutalbox
>ubuntu
>gaymer

eat a dick

>>58935989
>apt
disgusting

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I've been using xfce4 for like 10 years, old habits die hard!!!

>>58936757

Any good Cinnamon wallpapers similar to the one you uploaded?

>>58932653
MATE is the best choice.

Because xfeces is shit

>>58929649
Really good DE however It has a few problems that probably wont be fixed.

They doomed it when they went with switching to gtk3. It will never keep up hacking around GNOME dev cancer. When the fast gtk release cycle kicks off it will be left behind and forceably depreciated.

>>58929937
that's an applet problem. sod off
>>58930443
I believe its in the window manager shortcuts section.
>>58930590
I switch back and forth between gnome and xfce. Both are incredibly comfy to use.
>>58931418
Windows tears and you can't do shit about it other than getting told to update your drivers.
>unless you are subtly shilling macOS again

>>58931486
XFCE is better as a shell than a DE as I've heard. People swap their WMs and Compositors all the time and XFCE never bitches about it, it's perfect for fiddling around

>>58932015
>lxde more lightweight
different WM and no compositor
>xfce and mate are the least customizable DEs
source? I've made abominations on XFCE that you wouldn't recognize
>explain
see>>58938484

>>58932653
MATE in my experience is fucky and has no good looking menu options. also gnome 2 sucks and the mint dev team does as well.

>>58933065
remember to use a compositor other than the default! xfcomp(im calling it that now) can never achieve tear-free playback

>>58933917
try using cinnamon on a toaster, let us see how that goes,
>>58933955
>captura de pantalla
de donde eres?
>>58934411
dub dubs and a shitpost.
>>58936696
no reason to use anything other than apt. maybe yaourt but that's not even a package manager.
>>58936806
check the fglt on /wg/
>>58938058
what kills me is having to set inherits on almost all themes to not get shitty gtk2 icons.

>>58938577
pacman exists and is a million times better

>>58938577
>try using cinnamon on a toaster, let us see how that goes,
why would I use it on some shitputer? Xfce is only ood if your computer is from 2006 and you can't run anything else on it.

if you have 4GB or RAM and a CPU made in the last 6 years, Cinnamon is the way to go.

I've only ever tried xfce actually.

Shit list:
Unity
GNOME

>>58938467
>that's an applet problem
A problem to do with XFCE nonetheless considering that very applet is bundled with XFCE.

>>58929649
XFCE, the very best of 2006.

>>58929937
I have never had this problem CX

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GNOME is much comfier

>>58938880
gnome is fucking horse shit

>>58938894
How so?

>>58938903
probably the same reasons i hated osx in elementary school. It's shit

>>58938768
I know it exists faggot but desu apt is comfier.
>>58938820
cinnamon is bretty good i'll admit that much but I can't see myself using it or recommending it to someone
>>58938859
fair enough
>>58938880
gnome is pretty comfy but, you may as well install budgie if you like that faggy menu
>>58938903
my only gripe is shell restarting for changes.

>>58938921
apt is a massive pain in the dick to use

>>58938921
>you may as well install budgie
Tried it already. GNOME is more polished.

>my only gripe is shell restarting for changes
Logging out works for me.

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>>58938880

>>58938943
I don't disagree but I cant see myself using pacman anytime soon
>>58938954
>tried it
k
>logging out works for me
it's essentially the same thing but alt f2 and typing r doesnt log you out

>>58938966
>alt f2 and typing r doesnt log you out
1.) click power button
2.) click username
3.) log out

>>58938979
I worded that poorly. I meant that ALT F2 and typing r doesn't log me out and is better in my use case compared to logging in and out

>>58938997
I see what you mean. It restarts for me too.

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>>58933917
>eye rape white menu

>>58939020
looking at that screenshot again made me realize
>>58933917
why the fuck do you have winaero watermarks?

>>58938954
How is GNOME polished if you can't customize the fonts without a CLI or installing a half assed tweak tool? How about picking a specific color for the background instead of an image, perhaps black or something with a color wheel selector? This is basic stuff.

>>58929649
>uses X.org
>ancient as fuck version of GTK
>screen tearing
>they don't bother to implement swc
>etc.
>>58929856
>le epic Xenocara maymay xD

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>>58939059
>How about picking a specific color for the background instead of an image

>you can't customize the fonts without a CLI or installing a half assed tweak tool
How is that different than settings?

On a side note, gnome-tweak-tool came with my distro.

>>58938467
>windows tears
>source: my arsehole.

>>58938577
wena nido.

>>58939080
Where is black?

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love me some xfce

>>58939146
Love the green cursor

>>58939087
I had some fuckery going on with both chrome and firefox where they'd tear while scrolling or watching a video. It got patched in the drivers and browsers but it still happens you know
>inb4 muh anecdotal evidence
can't provide any other kind
>>58939098
Chile? Me han dicho que la cosa no esta buena por alla, tengo una qt en mi curso de chile tho. CHILE ES BLANCO

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>>58939114

>>58939181
Nice 'shop.

http://worldofgnome.org/oops-shell-removes-black-backgrounds-support/

Follow the URL for a perfect example of why GNOME developers can suck my white ass.

>>58939215
>Apr 14, 2014

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>>58939215
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649426

>>58929649
Ubuntu Sux, Debian Rules!!!

let me know when tray icons stop randomly deciding to not be transparent in xfce

meanwhile i'll be in this century

>>58939355
>transparent terminal
>transparent panel
filth

>>58938577
>de donde eres?
I'm from tacoland

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>>58939355
>bundle of cinnamon sticks
>a literal faggot
>mfw Cinnamon confirmed as the homosexual's DE of choice

>try i3 because someone from /g/ suggested it
>pretty comfy
>someone suggests i3 with gaps
>looks nice in screenshots
>try to install it
>completely fucks up the i3
>can't be bothered to reinstall it
>go back to Windows
the state of linux

>>58930443
alt f9. you can change it to super + down under windows manager > keyboard. it's "hide window"

>>58929649
>set up keyboard shortcuts to tile windows left and right
>tile window right
>want to untile it
>tiling the opposite direction tiles it that direction immediately instead of untiling first like logic would suggest
>gotta use the mouse to drag it away from the screen border to return it to normal

>want to resize window
>try to grab window corner
>it's literally 1 pixel at the very tip of the corner of the window and is near impossible to grab
>have to use alt+rmb drag to do it because freetards can't into usability

XFCE is probably the least garbage of all DEs, but it's still garbage

>using a DE at all instead of a WM
shiggy diggy

>>58929758
Is noto sans 9 your terminal font? The font and the rendering are just beautiful.

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>>58929649
I know your feel OP and I respect that. I have this feel when booting into my Cinnamon.

>>58929649
xfce is too expensive, i prefer linux mint

>>58929649
Does anyone know how to make XFCE taskbar/panel work like Windows 10 with regards to hovering over the active applications (when they're put to "group") and then seeing the opened instances of said program?)

Now I have to click it.

and is there a way to make the stickied program launchers + active instances of said application group? Now if I have stickied Firefox to the panel and open Firefox I have two Firefox icons in panel?

>>58940385
>you shouldn't use what best fits YOUR work flow you need to choose what best fits MY workflow

>>58940065
Nah, mate, "hide window" just makes it disappear. Super+Down is supposed to restore window's "original" size or, if it already has the original size, hide it.

Is Lxqt ready yet. Will it be good?

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>>58940564
>dark toolbar icons against a dark theme

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>using a DE

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>>58941748
>Being a wm-only hipster

>>58940075
This is fair.
t. xfcefag

>>58940075
alt + l/rmb to manipulate windows is genius and I wish Windows had it.

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because gnome is pretty clear the best de

Anyone here tried out LXQt?

>>58929649
Look, xfce is great and all but until they fix the installer no thanks. I cant encrypt my disk because of it and I dont have the knowledge to do the manual whiz bang stuff.

>>58942747
Just install Veracrypt? Idk..

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>>58929649
>lightweight
>customizable
>not bloated even if you want it to be
>what mouse?
>infinite pussybilities (overrated, missleading, only use when you don't know what else to add)

Why would anyone use any DE?

>>58936339
How does it feel having no life?

The only think gtk+ desktops have going for them is theme availability. Give me official qss support for qt and you could have your arc/numix/whatever for qt too.
Nothing in the gtk+ world tops plasma/dolphin/kate/kwin and that are also the only type of applications everybody needs on a modern desktop.

>>58939174
Curious. You should investigate more. Windows tearing is more the exception than the rule.

>>58932702
Hipster detected

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>>58942807

KDE is terrible. Something during every install doesnt work. From certain panels and more.

KDE is an always has been garbage.

t.cinnamon user.

>>58942756
how can you do full disk encryption after set up? Thats a terrible solution though

>>58929649
Thunar is awful and has many long standing bugs which will probably never get fixed.

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I love xcfe!

>2017
>people still shills X.org crap

>>58942747
>Installer?

>>58942825
cinnamon shows broken graphics for me. everything is glitchy and it can't display maximized windows. That happens since the middle of last year and makes it basically unusable for me.
Also, I don't have any problems with kde on gentoo. It's actually a first class citizen here with all beta/rc releases available on day one.

>>58942942
Cinnamon is buggy af, m8. It has it's own widget made to restart the desktop it crashes so much.

>>58942861
It's another piss poor win9x """"lookalike"""" theme episode.

>>58929649
Is i3wm, i3status, i3lock and dmenu a DE? If so, that's why I wouldn't use any other DE, OP.

>>58942884
As soon as the i3wm port for Wayland is compatible with the freebsd nvidia driver, I'm switching.

>>58943140
It's the driver that needs to be made compatible. I don't think sway has enough manpower to rewrite everything to "special-snowflake-nvidia-only" egl-stream. It's barely working as is and has many bugs to fix before it can even consider adding special drivers for closed source shit.

>>58943094
>Is i3wm, i3status, i3lock and dmenu a DE?
Throw in a network manager and a clipboard, then yes.

>>58943291
How can you guys live with no proper taskbar/panel? I only see non interactive shit that needs some voodoo bash magic to work.

>>58929649
Because of no wayland support, I plan on making an Openbox replacement that runs on Wayland because Openbox is the best stacking WM

>>58942891
thats not how you greentext, yes the installer for the primary xfce distro, xubuntu is bugged to buggary

>>58932452
>>58930002
The amount of shit you need to do to get HiDPI working in XFCE is bullshit. I might as well use just a WM. It's the same amount of work.

xfce is pronounced ex-face right?

>>58943399
ex-feces

The s is for "silent."

>>58943231
Well, that's too bad - guess I'm sticking with X then - even if Wayland is in ports now, unless I can find a new tiling window manager/compositor (I just switched to i3wm within the last few years, after using ratpoison-wm since 2002 (with a brief change to LainWM which turned out to be dead despite looking promising)).

>>58943291
What do I need a network manager for? I'm a CCIE tier1 sp network admin, I know how to configure networks on enterprise-scale with Juniper.
Clipboard manager isn't really something I consider useful, either as I don't make a habit of copy-pasting things because a long time ago I learned that when you're in disaster-recovery mode you don't have time to look up how to fix things, you need to know them by heart.

>>58943399
Not all initialisms are acronyms, but all acronyms are initialisms.

This post brought to you by the CAPTCHA "ROAD ROAD".. I like coincidences like that.

>>58943419
>Clipboard manager isn't really something I consider useful, either as I don't make a habit of copy-pasting things because a long time ago I learned that when you're in disaster-recovery mode you don't have time to look up how to fix things, you need to know them by heart.
Not that anon but I use kde and if I disable the clipboardmanager/klipper then copying and pasting with the context menu doesn't work at all. Only selecting and middle click works on x11.

>>58943447
Yeah, that's how I'm used to doing it, because I spend a lot of time in the tty where ctrl+c and ctrl+x are already used.

>>58943472
I though it was the toolkit's responsibility to copy and paste and those clipboard managers were just some sort of pastelog. Damn was I ignorant.

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>>58929853
>stop disliking what I like

>>58943544
Some have taken it as their responsibility, but you don't even need X to do copy/pasting on a proper UNIX-like like FreeBSD (I use the term UNIX-like, because it's UNIX in every way except lawyer-speak, since it has continuous history back to the very first version of UNIX commited in June, 1970).

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>>58942942

but senpai.

>>58943314
hotkeys, or make the panel launch stuff when you click on it.

Personally, I want a panel that shows information that I want to know but doesn't want to dedicate any screen space to.
Like what time it is, battery status etc.
Tasks I do from the panel is launch the network manager or calendar or select active application.
If the panel can do these things, everything is fine.

>>58943358
There is no primary distro for xfce, bro. Try Manjaro or Debian.

>>58929649
It's like the only decent DE where you can actually turn off compositing, because compositing messes up my dual monitor setup with different refresh rates.

Also, despite how comfy and modern Cinnamon is, it lacks some basic customization options like setting a different background for each monitor.

>>58934568
It just literally has crashes over trivial things. It works the same when it does work.

Thinks like renaming files, copying/pasting, dragging and dropping, etc. can segfault for seemingly no reason.

lolo

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>>58933860
That's easily configurable... I'm using i3, but I still like xfce4-screenshooter.

>>58934662
nice

>>58943823
I really like the way tiling works in i3&co but the only deal breaker for me is lacking mouse binding support and no taskmanager like the one in win7.
I want to pin running programs to it on the fly with the mouse so that I don't have to deal with manually adding something every single time.

Also, I can't use arbitrary buttons as modifiers, only the ones described in some 20year old standard like alt and shift and such things. To be fair, that's something every hotkey daemon lacks. But it's still required if I want to sit back and just do something with one hand alone without hunching over the keyboard.
I hope sway brings something new to the table in that regard.

>>58938880
-dock
-ugly and unnecessary 'start menu' type thing
+cool wallpaper

1/10 see me after class

>>58943864
That actually just got fixed with today's release. At least most of the copy/rename/moving crashes.

>>58940842
I would argue that a WM and programs you chose yourself fits literally everyone's workflow better, it just has the Arch install problem of 'I have to work hard one time and I'm scared'

>>58942747
>>58943358
sudo apt install xfce4 || sudo pacman -S xfce4

>>58942795
This. I used openbox for years while trying i3 on the side on another machine. After a while I was manually adjusting window size and placement on openbox. I realized it was time to move on. I've been a lot happier on i3.

>>58943959
Nice! That problem was plaguing me for months. Glad it got fixed. I'm on Arch, so hopefully the update comes fast.

>>58944036
According to the release notes on their blog it should be version 1.6.11 of thunar.

>>58943930
have you tried to use bspwm?
It will feel a bit more autistic at first, but has better mouse integration and is very simple to script.

>>58944077
>autistic

I just opened their github page and
>bspwm is a tiling window manager that represents windows as the leaves of a full binary tree.
I'm lost here.
Well, jokes aside. I will look into it thanks for the recommendation.

>>58943140
There already is an i3 port called sway for Wayland

>>58944676
Follow the conversation thread.

>>58943561
>stop disliking what I dislike
>>58942815
I know but it does happen doesn't it?

>>58929758
how'd you get that battery and date? i can't find a way to change the icon or color on either the battery or the fate on my xfce

>>58931952

>still tearing
Works on my machine and every other machine I tried and other people on the internet tried.
You must be an idiot.

>>58933860

>icons on buttons
It uses GTK2 and you can make it not use icons on buttons with a simple setting. Kill yourself for not informing yourself properly before being a cocky retard.

>>58946413

>fell for work on my machine meme

Just KYS, dumbfuck!

>>58938577

>try using cinnamon on a toaster, let us see how that goes,
If your computer is capable to browse the modern web then it's capable of running Cinnamon normally, idiot.

>>58946458

>search "fix tearing xfce" on search engine
>28.400 results

If you still can't get it to work, then you must be a proper idiot. An average person wouldn't even need a guide, he'd just tick the "sync to ..." option under the window manager settings. If that doesn't work, there are 2 other foolproof ways to fix it.

lmaoing @ ur life

>>58943902
What on earth is wrong with your fonts..

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>>58944058
got it! nice

>>58946593
dear lord how do you read that shit

>>58946602
Good eyes unlike yours apparently.

>>58939335
Agreed, but installing a DE on Debian is a nightmare :'(

>>58946602
is the font weird or is it just smaller than you use? most of the fonts I like broke a couple months ago so I'm stuck with tamzen instead of tewi, but this size is what I'm used to

>>58946805
not really...

sudo apt install xfce4

>>58947024
It's so small and thick it looks weird to read

>>58929649
i3 master race here just to laugh on you peasants.

>having a DE and not just a WM on top of pure X

>>58947052
ah, yeah. it looks weird when bold, but that's true of most terminal fonts IMO. not sure how to disable bolding

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>>58929649
Because it doesn't have transparancy effects on window titles and the taskbar

>>58947122
it 100% does though and couldn't be easier, you're just retarded

>>58947133
no u are

>>58946466
got any source on that? Almost all CPUs in the last 15 years can browse the web with some tweaking and fiddling around but no matter what you do Cinnamon will not run on them.

>>58946805
what are you talking about?

>>58929649

You should try Aqua.

>>58940062
i had this experience only on babbylinux mint. Arch and Manjaro were easy as shit to install with.

>>58929649
Okay heres a question. I consider myself somewhat savvy with windows, atleast ive always done what i needed if something goes awry. ive got an extra computer to fuck with and always wanted to learn some ubuntu shit or whatever. so, what is this OS your talkign about? Is it a linux kernal kind of thing like ubuntu? also what do you recommend for someone totally new but willing to learn a little bit. please feel free anybody to recommend something and please do explain why you feel that way.

>>58949125
XFCE isn't an OS, it's a desktop environment. The DE is basically what provides you with your GUI. You could install it on Ubuntu and use that instead of the default Unity DE. In fact, there is actually a flavor of Ubuntu on Canonical's website called Xubuntu that comes with XFCE as the default DE, rather than Unity.

If you're looking for recommendations on which Linux distributions to try out, you can't really go wrong with Ubuntu or its assorted flavors (Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, etc.). Linux Mint is probably the most popular recommendation for beginners.

You could also try out Debian, which is actually what Ubuntu is based on, but generally, your best bet as a complete beginner is probably one of the Ubuntus or Mint.

Don't feel like you're restricted to those distros, though. It's a good idea to branch out and try any distro that interests you, especially if you don't have to worry about fucking up partitions since you're using an extra computer that you have lying around. Looking back, my favorite part about learning to use Linux was hopping from one distro to the next.

Linux is easier to learn than you'd think, it just requires dedication and a willingness to use google and read guides, documentation, etc.

>>58931486
this

>>58949125
I can't tell if this is bait or not

>>58929649
When you autohide the taskbar, there's still 1 pixel minimum and there's nothing you can do about that.

>>58943778
use the broomstick, feels good.

>>58931486
sorry i like working audio, screen, and power management out of the box, fag

>>58947024
>tamzen instead of tewi
it looks like you're on arch. some fonts got renamed so tewi became lucy tewi

>>58947031
Did you mean su
pkg install xcfe4?

>>58951326
austism

There are also infinite possibilities of usage and customization for a pile of shit. doesn't make it any less of a shit

>>58929649
I can't use this becaue
>A FUCKING MOUSE
it invokes disgust

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>>58933860
xfce4 appearance settings, uncheck the option.

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xfce4 is the shizzle.

>>58929649
I'd use it on my laptop if it had better hiDPI settings. Besides that, it's a best

Only DE I ever use

>>58931386
It is.

>>58929649

XFCE is literally garbage. They haven't fixed the black whisker menu icon bug for YEARS. Try dragging around any of your open programs on the taskbar.

Sad!

xfce is truly the greatest de, and I'm usually a wmfag. It's basically the only one that isn't either bloated and laggy on shit hardware, or ugly.

>>58946579
They're bitmap. It's a popular thing here, since a lot of users like the "minimal", "oldschool" or "unrendered" kind of harsh look they provide. My personal preference is more towards clean and thin lines, but to each their own.

>>58933955
my friend is using that exact pape. Props

>all these /g/ losers using it

wtf i hate xfce now