> Linux loses Munich It's cool boys we still got the

>>58908005
>Lost the City of Munich
What could Mohamed not figure out windows while raping and killing white women.

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>>58908005
> Linux loses Munich

Wut?

What

>>58908244
Munich officially switched to open source software a number of years ago. Microsoft is paying to switch them back to Microsoft software.

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>>58908580
>people only choose proprietary software if they are paid to do so

This actually makes proprietaryfags look worse. Also fuck Munich.

>>58908894
>>people only choose proprietary software if they are paid to do so
Except Windows dominates the consumer market and people have to pay more for Windows computers.

>>58908894
>Believing the FUD some delusional Linux user tell him.

They are switching because Linux was a disaster to use.

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You also lost Vienna, Solothurn, Switzerland, Venezuela, etc.
>>58909342
this.
It was some horribly outdated distro that was ugly as sin to boot.

>>58909401
>Die IT-evolution

welp, it's no surprise with that attitude

>>58908894
>blindly believing in random shit you read on 4chan

Just think about what they're saying and ask yourself if it makes any business sense. Also, I've never seen anyone pay to have their product used. They just give it away for free. Usually in exchange for a case study or something else they can use for marketing it to other people instead. They don't need that in one city.

>>58909596
>I've never seen anyone pay to have their product used
you have much to learn, young padawan

>>58909657
you have much burden of proof, young faggot

>>58909795
lol no you lazy fucking retard, i wouldn't give a single shit if you died and i doubt anyone else would either, do your own homework

>>58909596

Just a month ago there was a shill here paying us to use his gay imageboard. You're a retard and a newfag.

>>58909867
>>58909831
Great real life examples of multi-national multi-billion corporations doing this.

>>58909879
Intel

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>>58908894
l o l

>>58909879
Intel, Microsoft, Xerox, HP, and many other on the field.

Also, most of them don't exactly pay for you to use, they just give you the product for free as long you spread a good word and sign a contract of exclusivity for X years, which may or may not include free upgrades.

>>58909926
I like how you admitted it's exactly what I pointed out here and how they're not actually paying anyone: >>58909596

Thanks for proving that all of you are complete retards. Then again this is a place where people don't know what a botnet is and thinks it has anything to do with user tracking.

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>>58909968
Sup Pajeet.

>>58909981
Hello anti-social white male between the age of 15 and 25. Let me know when your intelligence level manages to go higher than stale memes. Have fun trying your hardest to fit in on an anonymous message board.

Germany only used Linux for ideological reasons, they're leftist cucks who hate the fact that private, for profit corporations can make better products than a bunch of enthusiasts doing it because they want to for free (communism). Surprise surprise, communism doesn't work. Ever.

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>>58910110
>they're leftist cucks who hate the fact that private, for profit corporations can make better products than a bunch of enthusiasts doing it because they want to for free (communism). Surprise surprise, communism doesn't work. Ever.

Keep telling yourself that.

>>58910128
>communist laugh534.png
Can you dump the first 533 images?

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>>58910110
>the nation keeping the EU afloat with the highest GDP exports per capita in the world are communists because /pol/ told me to hate Merkel

>>58910193
Not him but, the reason why Germany economy is so successful is because of the austerity policies of previous presidents, not the welfare state garbage that leftist faggots love. Merkel is enjoying the prosperity that decades of Teutonic austerity left to her.

>>58910325
Merkel continued the fiscal conservatism. She's been in power long enough that she's partly responsible for the current state of the German economy.

>>58910193
Well, rapefugees are still alive and most of them don't have any job. Also CSU is full of shit with their corruption.

>>58910325
>presidents
Who?

>the welfare state garbage that leftist faggots love.
That was introduced by the Conservatives, not the Leftists.

City of Munich got fucked on the Linux deal though.

Instead of using an upstream distribution with support like Ubuntu with Canonical support they hired some dumb woman (literally) who made a poorly supported Kubuntu fork that wasn't updated at all.

Still, anything is worth watching Microsoft panick.
They literally flew Ballmer to germany to talk them out of it.
Talk about damage control kek.

>>58912416
Still, the biggest failure was the end user.

We're talking about thousands of clueless government workers who found themselves completely befuddled that the spreadsheet they had to work with now didn't have the name "Microsft Excel" and used a different, unfamiliar icon.

Linux is for niggers, memes becoming reality.

>>58912416
But that's what it basically is - Ubuntu LTS (last version based on 12.04) with some additional software to run all the things they need for their work.

>>58912430
>We're talking about thousands of clueless government workers who found themselves completely befuddled that the spreadsheet they had to work with now didn't have the name "Microsft Excel" and used a different, unfamiliar icon.

Nice FUD. Actually is was many missing macros and functionality that LO/OO misses causing huge amounts of time to be wasted. In the real world people use more than just Writer/Word and actually use the entire office to its full capabilities, something freetards are still yet to understand due to severe mental disability.

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>>58910128
It just works comrade, hey where did all the food go?

>>58909342
No, they're switching because they chose to use an outdated OS and manually create everything. They'll do the same on windows.

slashdot said Bill Gates personally ruined it

They couldn't handle libre office and wanted MS back.
I hate public servants so much.

>>58912474
>use the entire office to its full capabilities,
No one in the world does that.

>>58912474
>Actually is was many missing macros and functionality that LO/OO misses causing huge amounts of time to be wasted. In the real world people use more than just Writer/Word and actually use the entire office to its full capabilities, something freetards are still yet to understand due to severe mental disability.
Nice FUD.

In the real world all government workers do on their machines is either access a server-client based service (be it by the web browser or a desktop client) and use spreadsheets and word processing to shit out tons of template-based documents.

>>58912430
Ha, no. Even if you "learn" Linux, it still takes 3x the amount of time to troubleshoot issues, which you have to pay help desk for, which then makes it more expensive than Windows.

>>58912453
Still a one-person team of maintainers.

Look at Ubuntu Kylin. Completely different approach to the problem and wastly different results.
Canonical wants to get the Chinese market, contacted Chinese officials and with the cooperation made a Chinese Ubuntu spinoff with the party approval.

All while maintaining as much compatibility with the upstream Ubuntu.

>>58908580
as far as I understood is that they have a custom distro and forks of all software, which are never updated
if they just used an up to date ubuntu/mint it would be fine
also probably replaced the IT dept with refuggees

>>58912532
Ha, not really.
You'd knew that if you ever had a fucking job in this field.

End-user does not troubleshoot issues because no matter the platform/operating systems they do not have the priviledges to make any changes whatsoever.
Don't bullshit me about office workers figuring out stuff on their own on Windows when they have troubles wrapping their minds around using a different Spreadsheet software.
All they can is try rebooting and wiggling their USB flash drive if it doesn't connect.

Everything is done by the administrator of the system.
And just how you hire someone with experience in Microsoft ecosystem to maintain Windows Machines you are supposed to hire someone with experience working with Linux to maintain Linux machines.

You're just a shill.

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>all of this because the current Mayor of Munich is a self declared fan of Microsoft

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/LiMux-Linux-in-Muenchen-unter-politischem-Beschuss-2260806.html

Kek.
So this
is the power
of proprietary software

It takes an actual shill in the position of power to make the switch.
Let that sink in.

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>install ubuntu
>the most retard friendly linux os
>cant set mouse acceleration
>wont recognise my graphics card
>recognises my drives but wont mount them because they're NTFS (lmao)
>taskbar is on the fucking side of the screen for no reason other than to be different
>shit bootloader hides itself on my disk so it's a huge hassle trying to install windows
i hate to imagine what the others are like if ubuntu is so bad

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>>58910110
But the german alt-right wants to push for open-source software as well.

Their reasoning is that they are afraid of americans spying on them.

>>58912639
When was the last time you tried linux?

>taskbar is on the fucking side of the screen for no reason other than to be different
It's because most screens today are wide-screens and it preserves screen real-estate.

>shit bootloader hides itself on my disk so it's a huge hassle trying to install windows
It doesn't hide itself. It's on /boot. And it works well with Windows. While the Windows bootloader does not work at all with Linux.

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>>58912639
So your biggest complain is basically
>i thought it's windows but free

Kudos for not being ashamed of your mentality of a drooling government office worker though.

>>58912474
You could do everything you need on libre office. They literally tested it beforehand. It's just that the workers are too stupid to learn something new,
they are lazy 55yo (((Beamte))) after all.

>>58912595
I do, and while almost every user could be retarded, frankly Libre office and whatever else will never catch up to all of the features Microsoft Office has added in the last 20 years. Also, paying for Linux help desk specialists is just going to more expensive in the first place, on top of an increased amount of calls from users asking where feature x is and wasting time because it doesn't exist.

>>58912639
I really like ubuntu, the only thing that is a deal breaker for me is the no thumbnail in the file picker meme.

>>58912725
>frankly Libre office and whatever else will never catch up to all of the features Microsoft Office has added in the last 20 years.
Such as?

>Also, paying for Linux help desk specialists is just going to more expensive in the first place, on top of an increased amount of calls from users asking where feature x is and wasting time because it doesn't exist.
Such as?

Government office workers are not problem solvers.
Looking for "feature X" is not part of their work.

>>58912716
>i thought it's windows but free
no i thought it would be a working OS but i guess i was wrong

>>58912748
From what you've said it was working so I fail to understand what your problem is.

>>58912762
>mouse flies around the screen
>cant access any drives
>trying to change OS results in grub going apeshit
nah its malware mate

>>58912725
WPS Office already caught up to MS Office in all relevant consumer functionality. I wouldn't know about enterprise because we don't even use an Office.

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>>58909596
>I've never seen anyone pay to have their product used.

You can't be serious

>>58912744
>Looking for "feature x" is not part of their work.

This all anyone looking in needs to know about open source. A bunch of zealot assholes that are upset when end users complain they don't have the features they use every day and tell them they're wrong somehow. The money gets the features implemented, bitching at end users gets them back to Windows real fast.

>>58912796
Again, when have you last tried it?
Accessing NTFS drives is standard behavior.

>>58912639
Gotta love wintoddlers blaming their incompetence on an OS.

Never change /g/, never change.

>>58912796
>>mouse flies around the screen
Changin the sensitivity might help lol.

>>cant access any drives
All distributions I've used so far had no problems reading and writing to an NTFS partition with the ntfs-3g fuse driver. Hell all my usb thumbdrives are NTFS for compatibility because
>currysoft
>ext
lmao


>>trying to change OS results in grub going apeshit
Grub is supposed to start the windows bootloader not the other way around because windows bootloader does not support OSes other than Windows (lmao currysoft again)

What you did is overwrite grub with windows bootloader and be befuddled why it doesn't work.

>>58912829
ITT: Spillover from /v/ blaming their ineptitude with anything other than Windows on the OS.

It's kind of funny seeing so many of these supposedly really "technically adept" types go all apeshit over people using Linux or OSX. My experience is that it's usually just their ego telling them that "No, you can't be bad at something relating to computers, so it has to be something other than you" to avoid having to admit that they only know how to use Windows.

Personally I dumped Windows for OSX around 2007 and after a lot of tinkering with UNIX stuff in OSX all my desktops have since then run Linux (while my laptops run OSX). At this point Windows has to me become "That OS the clueless, kids who want to play games and those who have to use some really obscure tools only available on Windows". Pretty much all the software I run into, even the obscure stuff like AVR Studio, Matlab, Quartus II, etc., run on ether Linux or OSX.

>>58912818
16.04
>>58912851
>werks on my pc: the post

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>loonix is just as good as windows
>install loonix
>nothing works
>install windows
>everything works
>WEL UR A RETARD THATS WHY
lol

>>58912796
>mouse flies around the screen
>cant access any drives
>trying to change OS results in grub going apeshit
Never had ANY of these problems. Ubuntu (and it's derivates) is from my experience the best out of the box OS, far above windows and just as good as MacOS.
And you're just saying shit, drives are all accessible no matter if they're NTFS, FAT or anything else. None of this >>58912639 can be true unless all your hardware is physically broken. With the exception of task bar being on the side which can be fixed by installing unity tweak tool and setting it on bottom, or by copy-pasting a command into the terminal. But having it on side is better on wide screens and that's the reason they put it there by default.

>>58912944
I have an idea. Record the insides of your PC and record yourself creating a bootable disc/drive and installing the OS. Post the video on YouTube with the title "/v/toddler trying to install Ubuntu". Post the link here and we'll help you in the comment section.

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>>58912944
>>werks on my pc: the post
out of the box too.

Stop blaming your own ineptitude on on the OS.

>>58913005
>os lacks basic functionality
>its my fault
who writes this shit?

>>58908244
Munich is incompetent and probably got paid by microsoft to switch back.

>>58912967
>implying everything works
>literally has no drivers by default, forcing you to download them manually prior to installing the OS
>has no software by default
>due to these 2 reasons it's unusable without an initial internet connection
>b-but it works, I swear!
If I wanted this I'd install Arch or Gentoo.

Windows installation tl;dr: installation is significantly longer than installing a fully packed Linux distro and you have to prepare yourself as if an apocalypse will happen.

>>58913029
you're delusional if you think anyone believes your posts.

>>58913027
i like your theme, but not the (dual) titlebar.

>>58912967
it is funny because the opposite happened to me

>>58913068
doin a great job convincing me that linux isnt malware

>>58912924
>Install linux
>No installer because lol terminal makes me look l33t
>Have to read hours of outdated manuals and sekrit club wikis because no help support, makes you a pro
>Have to memorize thousands of commands because no good DE, pretending it's still the 80s is totally better.
>No good games or relevant software, I don't need that because then I might have to get a job other than ricing my desktop with anime.
>WAIT! WHY IS EVERYONE MOVING TO MICRO$OFT AND NOT LINUX! RRRRREEEEEEEEE! THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT SPENDING HOURS FIXING VAUGE ERRORS IS TRULY UNDERSTANDING COMPUTERS! NOT ACTUALLY GETTING WORK DONE!

>>58912478
The food stops because of sanctions set up by fascist states

>>58913123
Windows is more malware
>>58913142
Arch memes

>>58913076
>but not the (dual) titlebar.
That's a Gnome application, can't do nothing about it.

>i like your theme
It's the standard Xfce theme from 4.6
I just made a half-assed port to GTK3 so it looks somewhat consistent.

>>58913142
>install windows
>30 minutes looking at changing colors and reddit-tier dialogue
>finally installed
>need to update
>update downloads OEM drivers
>outdated as fuck and barely work
>SOMETHING HAPPENED
>MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
>restart
>install all drivers from USB
>spend the rest of my day setting up anti-botnet measures
>none of them work because of based microsoft
>I'm gonna play some vidya now!
>try to download games while botnet stealth downloads apps
>barely hit 1mb/s
>start up the game
>Missing tons of Visual C packages
>Audio is broken
Linux IS BTFO FOREVER11111!!!!

>>58912796
>>58912818
If Windows is hibernated Linux should not access the drives (or at least not write to them).

Fun fact: newer Windows versions (8 and 10) hibernate by default when you select "shut down".

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>>58913296
its hybrid hibernation, only the kernel and some basic shit is hibernated, but yes, it fucks up the mounting on linux.

>>58908916
The people who sell prebuilt computers get paid to put it on there and normalfags don't know what a not-Windows is. If a computer was shipped without an operating system and the user knew what a not-Windows was, why on earth would he pay to put Windows on there if he wasn't paid?

>>58913440
>>58913296

GNU/Linux*

>>58913440
It doesn't "fuck up" Linux, it's a security measure so dumbass arch kiddies won't complain that "stupid leenox destroyed their gaming machine".

You can still mount the drive from the commandline level, you just have to understand the risk

>>58913502
NTFS-3G is not a part of the GNU ecosystem ,and can be used with Linux without relying on GNU applications.

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>>58913482

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>>58913550

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>>58913568

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>>58913583
Install Latux

>>58913536
no, linux is just a kernel, you need userland in order to use it

>>58913604
yes but in order to use NTFS-3G you can use other userlands, plan9 , BSD and others. You probably use GNU anyway, but you don't have to, therefore you can say just Linux in this instance. You can use linux with other userlands for this instance, so you don't need to rely on GNU for this so its just "linux"

>>58913482
Why do some laptops ship with Linux or freeDOS?

Leeds university uses Linux (open seus)

>>58908005
The organisation that advised to use Windows again is a subsidiary of Microsoft.

>>58912639
This. They should just install Mint.

>>58912639
Works fine on my machine.

since nobody mentioned this,

>munich has external contractor evaluate their IT
>external contractor recommends switching from linux to windows
>said contractor is accenture

from their website:
https://newsroom.accenture.com/news/accenture-and-avanade-named-microsoft-2016-alliance-partner-of-the-year.htm

thank you, no more questions your honor

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>>58908005
The mayor actually said that people are frustrated with Linux because they were unable to install any software on it. This implies he wants the users to have admin permissions on their future Windows clients.
>Buy all new hardware to be able to run Win10
>Teach employees to use new interface of Win10
>Ignore privacy issues of Win10 and trust it with personal data of citizens
>After 2 weeks start from scratch as ransomware encrypts all clients and networkshares

I suppose it's alright as long as only the tax payer is punished for this stupidity.

>>58913005
retard with mouse flying around has set more than 800 dpi on hardware.

>>58909596
>Also, I've never seen anyone pay to have their product used.

What the fuck. Are you serious?

>>58914685
GEEEEE that was unexpected

>>58908005
>>Linux loses Munich
It's about time really. I can't really imagine how much of a cuck Microsoft's German staff must have felt having their headquarters in a city that explicitly doesn't use their software or operating system.

>>58908005
>kill the boer
>ubuntu
Perfect

>>58915272
They moved it there when the city announced they want to go freetard

>>58914685
This is standard practice. Basically you ask any contractor to perform a study, but you give them the desired outcome before they start.
This is the same way feminists conduct "science" or how fast food chains prove that their food is healthy.

>>58915191
>This implies he wants the users to have admin permissions on their future Windows clients.
No, that just shows he doesn't realize he wouldn't be able to install shit on Windows computers either.

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>>58909981
Thanks for the sauce, white fag. Graph is about the effect of the 2014 tsunami.
http://nctr.pmel.noaa.gov/indo20041226/Figure_1_sign.jpg

>>58909401
What the fuck is that abomination

>>58915322
It's not like shit can go much far from the shore. It's used by bacteria and stuff.

>>58915191
>Boss calls you into office after [asshole higher up] gets hit by ransomware for the fourth time and can't do anything
>Throws ""report""" onto the desk
>"Anon... this is becoming a serious problem. We need to find a solution."
>pauses and adjusts his position in his chair, phone vibrates on the desk
>"How do we go about preventing this from happening again?"
>"Make backups, train or make a point of hiring tech-literate people and tidy the file servers."
>"That's an expenditure we can't afford to make right now"
>"Not to mention the downtime at this time of the month would mean a disaster for [reason]"

You just can't win. I need to quit before I get fired.

>>58915447
what's wrong, anon? can't prevent a little malware while;
a. users can run arbitrary programs
b. maybe even admin rights for no reason
c. no frequent offline backup plan (offline as in not a fucking network share that can be obliterated by a malware-ridden users' machine)
d. not allowed to change these facts, because it's "too costly" or "too inconvenient"

c'mon, go, you're a wizard, right? do some magic

>>58909533
Please tell me you aren't serious.

I switched to macOS. Couldn't be happier.

>>58915447
>gets hit by ransomware for the fourth time
The admins deserve to be fired

>>58915570
>b. maybe even admin rights for no reason
But anon, this shitty program that we refuse to update or find an alternative to because reasons can't run without admin rights!

>>58912570
>probably replaced the IT dept with refuggees
so Munich will use pirated Windows XP from now on.

>>58913102
this

>>58912639

$ xset m 0 0

to get rid of mouse accel

>>58912720
>i wrote a line of text, changed the typeface, enlarged to 36pt and put it in a different color
>i opened a new spreadsheet, entered some numbers and a formula to sum the values.
>hey! LO/OO can do everything MSO can
Now try doing extensive macro programming on it.

>>58915599

Found the german.

>>58915447
try using restricted accounts, hardened group policies and setting up AppLocker

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-pioneer-munich-poised-to-ditch-open-source-and-return-to-windows/
>Noticed SUSE help
these faggots were so idiots that instead of using SUSE or openSUSE ,made their own version and fucked up

the problem isnt so much with what OS they use, the problem is more to do with the fact that they have no idea how to do anything with their computer to begin with. government workers in germany are often idiots and the sad truth is that they have no conception of abstract processes.

they wouldn't understand GUIs no matter what OS they ran on, thats why in many german administrations they let all the computer stuff go through a web browser so that it just runs anywhere. the workers also dont get paid to understand a GUI or an OS, they get paid to do shit. they dont want to put any brainpower into understanding what theyre doing. its a problem with the workers and the culture

t. worked in german offices for 15 years