>formats that will never go mainstream due to /g/'s

VR shit.

G00GLE hyped shit.

>>58892809
Opus is absolutely going to be mainstream. It's backed by Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla, already supported in webm in Chrome and Firefox, and I think maybe Edge too.

It'll be used by anyone who cares about bandwidth and transmits audio, whether or not idiots keep their music in it doesn't matter at all.

>>58892809
???
it's already the standard for various Voice Chats etc.
It's easy to change codecs when you're responsible for both recording and playback. Practically impossible to change when you have no control over clients and have to support legacy clients, which is why MP3 is still the most common exchange format for audio. It's "good enough".
Most companies that can change easily already did.

How good is it compare to OGG and AAC?

>>58892947
You probably mean Vorbis, and very good, especially when you care about performance at a wide range of bitrates.

http://opus-codec.org/comparison/

>>58892809
It's used by default on YouTube if you're using Chrome.

>>58892997
No. It mostly uses vorbis and .aac

.opus is only used with higher DASH formats on youtube.

>>58892997
nice shilling here

>>58892983
Look pretty good, but as a normie, I don't think normal people would care about this different.
I mean, current quality of YouTube is fine for most of people, because they probably can't tell the difference between an 128kbps AAC file and a FLAC file. Or they are using a $20 earphones.

So I think companies such as Apple, Google, will decide the future of this audio format.

>>58892809
>Go
Why should go ever go mainstream?

>>58893204
the benefit is you can reduce bandwidth for the same quality, quality is good enough already

RIP in peace, Opus.

>>58893059
>No. It mostly uses vorbis and .aac
Vorbis is used with VP8 webm, Opus is used with VP9 webm.

>>58893274
???
like >>58892933 said it's already widely used

>>58893263
Yes, but I probably won't re-encode all my FLAC files to OPUS because 192kbps OGG is fine for me.

Only companies would care about bandwidth. If they use OPUS for their video/audio, customers will accept it even before they realize it was OPUS. So it's all depends on companies.

>>58892933
>it's already the standard for various Voice Chats etc.

Which nobody uses.

.opus is basically a meme format waiting to be replaced by something better.

>>58892809
I wish it was just due to /g/'s autism, but FLIF.

Damn, I love FLIF. So many cool features. It is a lossless, progressive encoding format, where prefixes of the lossless file are highly competitive /lossy/ versions of the image. It can progressively encode animations, not just still images, so the animation loads entirely first, then increases in quality. You'll never have to wait for buffering like in gif, which loads from start to end. It also has the property that repeated lossy encoding to a fixed quality of the same image doesn't get progressively worse (ie, jpeg effect). Instead, it'll quickly asymptote to a fixed quality. This is because, as a lossless format, it achieves lossy compression by pre-processing the image to be easier for the lossless encoder to compress, thus the image doesn't need any pre-processing if you're re-encoding a previously encoded image.

So, better than png, gif, and jpeg, at everything each format is best at (or at least competitive, jpeg is still better at low quality lossy).

>>58893407
Wait, I made a mistake. The progressive encoding doesn't produce competitive lossy encodes, it's just much better than PNG. The lossy encoding is separate, as I described later.

>>58893396
>nobody uses teamspeak
>nobody uses discord
>nobody uses VP9

>>58893519
>implying most gaymurs use Teamspeak
>implying most gaymurs use Discord
>implying VP9 is default

>>58893673
VP9 is the default on YouTube.

The only times it isn't is when your browser doesn't support VP9 (which should be obvious).

>still no Opus used in piracy

>>58894642
>Caring about anything other than lossless
Just encode it yourself, so you know it's done right.

File: FLAC will eventually replace MP3.png (243KB, 970x1088px) Image search: [Google]

243KB, 970x1088px

FLAC > opus

>>58894642
When most releases are using AVC and HEVC, it's no surprise that AAC is the audio codec of choice.

I don't expect this to change until AV1.

>>58894763
FLAC is too hard to find for most people.

File: 1424214498961.gif (427KB, 200x198px) Image search: [Google]

427KB, 200x198px

>check ffmpeg has a H265 encoder
>encode a lossless H264 into a lossless H265
>final file is 60% smaller

What witchcraft is this? Ok that even with ultrafast preset I could hit real time speed but still impressive as fuck.

>>58892809
>Skype and Youtube aren't mainstream

Kill yourself immediately retard.

>>58893204
>I mean, current quality of YouTube is fine for most of people
The funny thing is that YouTube uses Opus.

>>58894786
>I don't expect this to change until AV1.

Fuck I want AV1 so bad. I seriously can't wait until it is released. No more of this x264 and x265 shit. Just one unified codec for everything.

>>58895113
Skype is the only exception. People are leaving it in droves, though.

>>58895123

Until something better come to existence.

>>58895179
I don't see AV1 being replaced by anything other than the next gen version of AV1. We won't be going back to spending money on shit like royalties when so many big companies can just spend way less to create open source codecs.

>>58892809
>used by billions of people every day in chat apps
>not mainstream

>>58893673
>implying they dont

>>58895146
And going where?

>>58895808
Whatsapp, Facebook, iMessage, Discord, etc.

Skype started dying when it was sold to MS.

>>58895808
This isn't 2002, kid. People have moved on from Skype. It's like the AIM of chat clients now.

>>58892809
ffmpeg's getting a native encoder for it, it's going mainstream whether you like it or not

>>58897372
booooooo

>>58892809
OP IS A FAGGOT

Youtube uses OPUS for WEBM streaming, it's already mainstream

>>58897433
By that logic, Vorbis is mainstream because Spotify uses it.

>>58897536
Yes?

>>58897433
Youtube or in fact nobody is currently streaming anything other than H264 and AAC for livestreams. Youtube only uses VP9/VP8/Vorbis/Opus for anything which isn't currently being livestreamed.
VP9 is basically impossible to do in realtime with good quality or at all with acceptable latency. Plus support is limited.

>>58897536
Vorbis has been mainstream for like a decade or more, you'd be amazed what games use it internally.

Opus is best-in-class and it being used by basically every voice chat out there (except Skype bizarrely since they helped to invent it, and Signal, but the new beta of Signal uses it too) - in particular, it's the required audio codec for WebRTC.

>>58897536
it's mainstream in that they're used everywhere except peoples' pirated collections, yes

Normies will never use it and iOS doesn't support it.