Ryzen General - 1700 Specs Confirmed, A $320 Rival To Intel’s

Will I be able to play DotA 2 while streaming and hosting a Minecraft server?

>>58886800
Technically yes, altough I recommend using VM's for that

Will I be able to run SuperPi and Cinnebench(single thread) with 5 different benchmarks and a 300 tab Firefox at the same time so I can post subpar scores on a korean finger crafts imageboard to feel superior?

>>58886709
Will I be able to host two gaming VDs, one gateway VD, mutli-1080p/60 streaming, and host Adobe CC as a virtual application on multiple workstations?

>>58886814
is gpu passthough still retarded or is the process easier?

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>>58886709

>>58886839
Why would you need PCI passthrough?
Only the Minecraft server should run in a VM because it's easier resource management and sandboxing. AFAIK Minecaft server only needs a decent CPU, so allocating 4c/8t to the VM should be enough.

>>58886838
You'll need a few more cores.
Might I recommend the Newest Intel E5 for the bargain price of $8000? With tax.

>>58886814
My 6700k lags if I try this.

>>58886889
I see, you just wanted anon to run the server in a vm.
can you answer my question though? is it still complicated as fuck?

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>>58886855

>>58886902
I could do it on my Xeon E5 2687W v2

>>58886839
>is gpu passthough still retarded or is the process easier?
It's easy but wine is still utter shit and even less advanced than vista sp1

So if these are true why pay 100+ more for 1800X? 200Mhz doesn't seem worth.

>>58886709
any information on the middle range cpus?

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>>58886924
>implying any of those can beat anything produced by intel

>>58886959
X has unlocked core multipliers and a higher TDP for more headroom when overclocking. I hope AMD doesn't pull a Jew and make BCLK overclocking gimped like Intel's

>>58886977
Talking about the 1700X.

>>58886709
Finally! I can shitpost on 4chan.

>>58886709
I should have waited,2 gud 2 be true,
bought a intel 6700k 7 months ago bros, will buy a 16 core AMD cpu in 3 years I guess

>>58886971
Why Intel is on damage control?

>>58886981
Halo products are always more expensive.
Capitalism

>>58886981
Better binning? Probably better extended frequency scaling or whatever that bollocks is called.

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> https://dailygazette.com/article/2017/02/09/globalfoundries-will-expand-production

"GlobalFoundries will be increasing its local computer chip production capacity by 20 percent as part of a worldwide capacity expansion, the company announced late Thursday."

This could be an indication that they can't keep up with AMD's order for Zen/Vega which would mean AMD is very confident about them. It would also mean that there is a chance that there will be some Zen/Vega chips made by Samsung, if GloFlo can't meet the demand.
I'd say it's good news for Zen at least.

>>58886977
How is Intels gimped, exactly?

I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again, because you guys are all a bunch of retard riding a hype train that's ready to derail: Wait for independent testing. AMD's launches are always all hype, no substance. If it lives up to the hype, great. I'll be glad to see competition in the market again. History tells us that likely won't be the case.

>>58887163
Kaby Lake will not work if you push the BLCK anywhere past 100MHz. Even with an external clock generator on an ASSCock or Niggabyte board.

>>58887177
>History tells us that likely won't be the case.
Nice damage control.

>>58886709
>wccftech
where
cold
curry
fucks
tech

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>>58886709
>but no win7 driver

>>58886912
yes it's still super finicky and not viable for the average user

>>58887181
Curious. Is this because of the (((overclock))) Intel gave skylake? Ever since skylake, blck was separate, and actually useful for once.

>>58887221
Yeah.

WHERE'S MY APUs THOUGH REEEEEEE

>>58887221
Silly Goy, it's just a coincidence

>>58886977
All the chips have unlocked multipliers.

>>58887229
H2 2017.

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Which motherboards will you be getting, or hoping are released?

>>58887260

So AM4 motherboards won't have any HDMI/VGA/DP output?

>>58887189
When was the last time AMD had a product launch, CPU or GPU, that lived up to the hype? It's not realism, it's truth. It's fanboyism to think otherwise.

>No W7 Driver
/g/ BTFO

>>58887264
Something with 10 phases, 2 m.2 and at least 2 pcie slots.
I would also like 8 sata ports but I can make do with 6.

>>58887275
They do have because Bristol Ridge and Raven Ridge both use AM4 socket.

>>58887260
can't wait that long, I might commit suicide before that

>>58887275
they will, they just won't work with the upcoming ryzen CPUs

>>58887286
Nah 3 m.2

2 for fast drives RAID or otherwise and 1 for a big ol fat chunk of Optane

>>58887299
>Optane
Silly goy you need Intel Core™ CPU to use it.

>>58887275
They're probably like x99 boards
>>58887276
The cubs won, Trump is prez, and we're getting our wall. Don't be so cocky.


CAN ANY OF YOU FAGGOTS TELL ME IF "PRO" MEANS ECC SUPPORT??

>>58887177
>has been around for 1 overhyped then fail amd release
>they are all shit

Did I do good and bought a 7500?I mean my old phenom ii 965 gave up so I dont know if I could wait months without a pc.

>>58887286
Biostar announced an AM4 mITX with 6 sata ports amd 4 m2 slots, I can imagine the options for ATX sized motherboards will be even better
raise your expectations

>>58886709
Thanks God I'll finally buy my Haswell i7

>>58887275
I'm guessing it'll depend on the chipset

>>58887276
hoping for good competition isnt fanboying.

>>58887379
it won't depend on anything, they will obviously have image output because AM4 is the new standard for all new APUs as well. It just won't work with CPU-only chips

>>58886709

how much for i5-7500 competitor?

>>58887284
>Windows
You mean /v/ kiddies BTFO

>>58887377
yeah im waiting for price drops on this also

>>58887323
PRO means it's aimed at businesses, so it has some additional management features or whatever.
Think something like this https://www.amd.com/en-us/solutions/pro/security-manageability
You'll have to wait for the release, but if regular versions don't support ECC, PRO versions won't either. In that case you'll have to either wait for their server chips or get Intel.

>>58887418
>don't know than +30% of the market is W7

>>58887418

yeah because you need 2k$ machine for anything else except for that

>>58887443
So? Does that make Windows less shit or something?

>>58887446
Some people actually have jobs and have to do video editing/rendering/coding.

>>58887485
They need Shekels, they don't give a fuck about your Linux command line elitistic meme OS alos W10 is a botnet.

>>58887485
>Some people actually have jobs and have to do video editing/rendering/coding.

sure on 2k$ machine... sure
if only for that optimized is 700$ to 1k$ more than that you are either retarded or a lier

>>58887485
>>58887518

also for that kind of work, used server is a much better investment

>>58887264
I want to make a micro build with antenna screw ins, sick of my 8350, it has served me well considering I suppose.

>>58887511
>W10 is a botnet
And 7 isn't? Lol.

>>58887518
>>58887534
You have no idea about you're talking about. Just stop posting.

is there a point to intel vs amd? why isn't everyone happy when both parties are being competitive and releasing good products?

>>58887572
The monitoring is in the W10 kernel anon.

>>58887610
This.

>>58887703
You're pretty delusional if you think Microsoft introduced telemetry with W10.

>>58887412
Honestly I'd say £150.

>>58887747
Windows 10, even the Windows Enterprise are botnet, on W7 you can kill every internet conection of the M$ server.

>amd actually releasing something that is more than just a budget-friendly product for the first time in years

the absolute madmen
too bad its probably too late to break the choke-hold intel has with all the laptop manufacturers. they still have nothing on intel's igpus either, but if ryzen does what it is being marketed to do, this will be pretty awesome

>>58887781
>they still have nothing on intel's igpus either
You what? Ayymd iGPUs are years ahead of Intel.

>>58887779
So can you with W10, editing a hosts file isn't hard

>>58887797
could you prove that?

there is no way to tell tone over the internet, but I assure you I am not being sarcastic

could you link me to a vid or anything? I've always used amd for their gpus, not their cpus, I genuinely don't know what amd igpus are like, but i've never heard anyone praising them

will AMD implementation of VT-d be buggy?
I want to use linux and GPU passthrough my gaymes

>>58887817
I haven't checked myself since I've accepted the (((botnet))), but Windows 10 is said to still connect to certain telemetry domains even when they are in hosts file.

>>58887853
you're such a fucking retard anon-kun, have you never heard of APUs?

>>58886709
The only processor AMD will be rivalling is the Atom.

And Intel can afford to give those away for free.

Ryzen = DOA

>>58887896
>give those away for free

>thats because the atoms are all defective and explode after 18 months of use, making them only worth $0

>>58887916
hey, 18 months of use is better than an AMD house fire cooking itself in 18 minutes.

>>58887896
>And Intel can afford to give those away for free.
Intel just fired a tenth of its workforce

>>58887928
They did what?

>>58886709
>confirmed
>wccftech
Why do I even bother coming to this fucking board

>>58886709
It has lots of cores but how is the single core performance?

I'll sell my 6700k + mobo if its actually worth it.

>>58887964

>>58886924

>>58887969
>how is the single core performance?
~Broadwell-E levels

>>58887974
oh wow a rumor image
let me know when it's actually officially announced.
I'm not interested in rumors

>>58887976
Is that better than skylake?

Will skylake-e btfo ryzen?

>>58888054
>Will skylake-e btfo ryzen?
Maybe, but it'll cost a fortune. It may even draw more power.

>it's people lie to themselves saying AMD would sell a CPU for $500 even though it can beat Intel's $1000 one
You guys are so cute

>>58887993
Those are images from BLT and some eurocuck store. They are both legit, if you don't want to believe it go stick your head in some sand. It'll achieve about the same result.

>>58888117
If they are legit give me the link to the store so I can order one.
Oh wait, you can't. That's what I thought

>>58888104
>beat your opponent in price
>beat your enemy in performance
Why not do both if the dies are cheap enough?
Selling them that cheap, AMD stands to make more profit than selling a few for a drastically higher price.

>>58888139
>doesn't understand what a leak is
Please neck yourself, for the good of humanity.

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When will ryzen be available? Itching to build me a new pc.

>>58888147
If these prices are accurate it doesn't beat their opponent, if they could do that they would sell it for $750-800, which would already be a massive undercut

>>58888160
>leak
sure thing buddy
how about that link?

>>58888168
Good goy.

>>58888161
3 weeks

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>tfw amd takes up more power meme is dead

>>58888161
the paper launch is at the end of the month

>>58888194
antisemitism is not an argument

>>58888219
It's very much an argument, schlomo.

>>58887229
Got plenty of apus at Microsoft buddy

>>58886839
You'd be virtualizing the server

>>58888231
I think you should go back to /pol/

>>58888248
I think you should go back to /v/

>>58888248
I think you should hire some competent engineers mr. Krzanich.

>>58887264
Going to get one of the gimmicky Fatal1ty boards from ASrock the features seem useful

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>mfw amd releases their cpus
>mfw intel cut prices and buy intel instead

>>58888294
DIRTY JEW

>>58888139
>>58888188
https://www.lambda-tek.es/shop/?region=ES&searchString=Ryzen&go=GO

http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?action=thispage&thispage=011003000504_B4U1132P.shtml&order_id=!ORDERID!#Availability

http://www.shopblt.com/search/order_id=%21ORDERID%21&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=AMD+AM4&search=Search

More and more but they are all deleted: NDA

>>58887264
Gigabyte Aorus X370-Gaming-K5 or possibly a K7 or something if that's released. Gigabyte a best, still rocking a 790FX-DQ6 and a Phenom II X4. This upgrade will be pretty huge.

>>58886709
That's cool and all, but how is single core performance?

>>58888294
this is what i'm going to do

>>58888411
~Haswell-E or even Skylake level

>>58887817
the telemetry addresses are hardcoded in windows 10, your precious hosts file doesn't do shit. enjoy being datamined, loser.

>>58888427
Any benchmarks?

>>58888449
CanardPC benched A0 chip. Google it.

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And meanwhile!

>>58887959

>>58887959

>>58888411
>(((single core performance)))

>>58888446
Even if this were true, any firewall would do the trick.

>>58888461
You mean Canard Hawdware

>>58888475
Yes, CPC Hardware, whatever.

>no W7 driver
well, I was gonna upgrade my old Xeon E5 since they announced that they were gonna support Windows 7, but looks like I'll just keep using it then.

>>58888461
Thanks. Just as I feared, performs worse than mainstream i5s. Oh well, still might be decent in the future.

I'm not sure if i should go all in with a 1700 or get whatever the i5 equivalent is.

One positive is the AM4 should be around for a few generations, so i can pick something higher end later on with no worries.

>>58888507
What part of low clocked A0 sample did you not understand?

>>58888507
Performs inbetween the 3.6ghz i5 and 3.3ghz i5 at 3.4ghz itself.
How is that "performing worse than the i5"?

If this is ACTUALLY legit. Intel is legit fucked. AMD called them on their shit. They are shipping an 8c/16t CPU at LESS than an 4c/8t i7.

Unless you are a "/g/aymer" There is no choice. They will literally sell a 6c/12t for 250. It's finally time to upgade my 2500K.

A legit 3x upgrade at a logical price. FINALLY.

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>>58888525
>>58888575

>>58888716
>if

opinion discarded

>>58888942
Dumb /v/ermin.

>>58886924
>£480
M U H D I C K

>>58887299
>>58887286
>>58887288
what, do you retards think pcie lines from the processor grow on trees?
you need intel's quad channel if you even dare dream of dual m2 and full-speed dual pcie16x

>>58889061
Nice damage control.

>>58888516
The 6 core will be most bang for the buck, IF it overclocks well. Much more future proof than a quadcore in 2017.

>>58889061
who the fuck uses two GPUS in this day and age and isn't on a server cluster anyways

>>58889085
You can still buy cheapo 8core and OC it.

>>58888942
We know current clock speeds and performance. It has per core performance within 5% of skylake, with clock speeds that are equal, and in addition you get MOAR COARZ for the same money.

>>58886924
wait what the fuck, 95 watts? an 8-core 95 watt CPU? 4GHz? Is this because no iGPU?

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>>58889328
No, it's because Zen is an actually NEW arch. Also that dude never fails.

>>58889344
Keller is indeed a god.
But at the same time, no iGPU does help a fair bit towards lowering that TDP.

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Can this double as a stove if I were to put a Ryzen APU inside?

>>58889364
And actualy Zen-based APUs would absolutely rape Intel mobile segment. Also possible HBM2 on the die.

>>58889090
This. And m2 is a meme.

>>58889386
it can, if you put inside house fire 140W HEDT intel cpu.

>>58889344
Hopefully the shitty management over at AMD doesn't undo all of his hard work.

>>58889411
Oh I've no doubt at all that Zen APUs will be very nice things in the mobile market.
A new, more efficient core arch, new more efficient process, both of which go a ways to make so much more room in the package for a larger iGPU.

HBM2 would indeed be a game changer for APUs, it's a matter of if AMD are willing to draw that card yet.

>>58888716
I would probably upgrade if it wasn't for that retarded Windows 10 requirement.

I already have Windows 10 on my laptop and I fucking loathe it.

I'll try to avoid it as long as I can on my desktop.

>>58889448
>the shitty management over at AMD
It's better than ever since Su came.
>>58889455
>it's a matter of if AMD are willing to draw that card yet.
They probably are, they need a stedy supply of HBM2 for both Vega and Raven Ridge though.

>>58889448
Rory Reed is long gone m8.
Su is kicking ass and taking names.
Fuck, since she took over AMD stock value has increased 9 fold alone.

>>58889484
>They probably are
Considering that Ryzen and AM4 both support DDR4, I think it's more likely that they won't for some time, unless something really stellar is in the pipeline. Even with high speed DDR3 the bandwidth famine ended, so DDR4 will have no problem keeping an APU happy.

>>58886709
I am going to buy one just to piss off the Intel jews.

Is there a management engine in this new cpu? Can I get a computer with it disabled or lasered away or something?

>>58889561
That's true. My best guess is that they would use it for embedded, NUC and SFF systems removing the need for conventional RAM to save space

>>58889669
The only place I can imagine an HBM enabled APU being is mayhaps in a custom SoC, even then, that would be reaching quite far into the obscene.

>>58889692
>custom SoC

Hang on, has no one revealed anything about what RAM that project scorpio Xbox is going to use?

>>58887853
The only way Intel managed to beat (more like match) AMD's performance with iGPUs (A series) was using DRAM on the processor aka. Iris Pro. I don't need to mention how that made the chip way more expensive than the AMD one.

>>58889728
Likely still going to use DDR3.
It would be crazy expensive for someone to get AMD to develop a whole new SoC for them while the current one is doing just fine.
If anything it'll be DDR3 again, maybe higher speeds is all.
At a push, maybe Microsoft will take some notes from Sony and drop some GDDR5 in there. But as it is, neither current xBox or PS4 suffer from bandwidth issues, fuck they've nearly identical characteristics apart from raw compute. So I don't imagine anything being changed up too much.

>>58889823
They want to market Scorpio as 'le true 4k gaymen machine' so everything's possible.

>>58889561
>Even with high speed DDR3 the bandwidth famine ended

For APUs? I don't know enough to dispute it but I never stop hearing about memory bottlenecks on those things. More importantly I can't imagine why AMD has been making such a fuss about the HBCC and similar upcoming technologies in Vega, unless its to address that specific problem.

>>58889848
Then in that case I find it more believable that they'll just opt for a dual chip solution.
If anything get a dedicated GPU from AMD that's low power and 4k capable, which could well end up being Fury's..Fury Nano performs well enough while drawing not much power.

>no win7 driver

CANT WIN

>>58889823
>Scorpio
>DDR3

Lolno How the hell do you get 320GB/s system bandwidth with DDR3 on a SoC like that?

>>58889862
2400Mhz DDR3 were near enough able to saturate APUs on FM2+, granted shit wasn't cheap, but it could do it.

HBCC is more useful in large memory pools with high frequency, as it'll dump and refill more often, thus causing more visible stutters, the HBCC could resolve this.

>>58889881
>opt for a dual chip solution.
Sweet sweet housefire. Remember that it's fucking console.

>>58889386
100% sure there will never be a thin-itx AM4 board, that form factor is dead

>>58889942
If they're targeting 4k gaming, then there's no APU capable of that, no integrated solution that CAN do that. It will have to have a dedicated GPU in order to push to 4k with stable FPS.

>>58889881
I'd doubt that, die size matters in console production and polaris would be much more suited to console applications for its die size cost effectiveness (more chips per wafer), and lower TDP vega supposedly has lower TDP than vega for the same workload, but it's unlikely it could be produced en masse for the console market, polaris can however.

If zen is going to feature, which it kind of has to in order to be competitive, it may come in the 8 core, 65W fashion, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a 4c/8t ~35W TDP chip instead. Zen is produced in modules of 4 cores each, so it would make sense in terms of cost effectiveness.

As for RAM, who knows. They may separate the CPU and GPU RAM this time around, they might not.

All of this is just speculation at the moment really.

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>no 6 cores
>Instead you have to get a shittier 8 core instead of a good 8 core if you wanna cheap out

>>58888294
>intel cut prices and buy intel instead
>Intel
>cut prices
You're funny anon, that was a good joke. Intel doesn't cut prices. Look at their history, they never have.

>>58890060
There will be 6cores.

>>58886970
aren't the R(yzen)7s the middle range?

>>58886709
HAHAHAHAHAH INTEL IS FINISHED! Undercut is real

>>58889927
>2400Mhz DDR3 were near enough able to saturate APUs on FM2+
Dual channel 2400mhz DDR3 is 38.4GB/s. This isn't all usable by the IGP, the CPU's burden on available memory bandwidth limits the effective throughput to the shaders.
The 8CU Radeon 7750 clocked at 800mhz has 72GB/s, same as the 10CU full die, but that 7770 still sees performance improve slightly from a memory overclock. Kaveri has 8CU clocked at 720mhz, and its getting 34.8GB/s which it has to share between the CPU and the IGP.

All APUs are horrifically bandwidth starved. Even dual channel 4266mhz DDR4 would only provide 68.2GB/s, still not enough for even 8CU.

>>58890081
1700 one is. Sort of.

>>58887264
the one that's 100€ and has the stuff i need

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>mfw when waiting for the Ryzen specs paid off
No reason to buy i5 when i can get R7 with 4 more cores and 12 more threads for the same price

>>58886971
really good at hiding that damage control

Any idea yet of what the 4/4 chips will be priced at?

>>58890741
No, but my guess is $125-175

>>58890741
Cheap as peanuts, mostly because it's wasted silicon otherwise.

>>58886709
>Want to buy the new cpu
>windows 10 only
For fuck sake how hard is it to have win 7 support? So many people would insta buy it then.

>>58886709
holy fuck right as I'm about to build a new pc too, was getting the 6700k i7 but tickle me pickle

>>58889968
I'd be into a Mini-STX AM4 board for APUs

>>58886709
Alright, now I am investing in AMD.

>>58891184
You're pretty late dude.

>>58886709
What's the catch though?

No company out to make money would simply undercut their competition by over half of a thousand dollars to the established pricing.

>but amd cares about me
No corporation cares about you, it's a system of profit making.

>>58891214
Ryzen is cheap to produce and they need that sweet sweet market- and mindshare. And you're too used to Intel's cock shoved up your fucking ass.

>>58891196
Sure I am, and everyone is expecting it to drop again; however, I believe this is still just the beginning of AMD's meteoric rise back to stardom.

>>58891184
Do it. Be part of the bubble. AMD's share price is near $13.50. If they start trending towards $20 it will be a full on rocket to the moon bubble scenario where they could top $30, or even $40 before it bursts. I could retire this year if that happened.
Do it.

>>58891196
Its never too late.

>>58891214
AMD needs to be cheap to sell, if they are even 30% within Intel's pricing, a lot of people will just continue to buy Intel.
They need to earn public respect before they will ever start raising the price.

>>58891234
>hurr durr intel red vs blue
Fuck off, Pajeet, Intel and AMD are as bad as each other. The only thing to count on is hoping these two creatures aren't complex enough to eat and shit at the same time while they're taking bites of each other.

We'll see what happens when this stuff has actually been sent to retailers and if price gouging results in nearly the same prices or if one is made from shittier materials.

>>58890741
I think it's gonna be what this guy says >>58890780

It will depend on clock. I suspect a $175 SKU is likely to put against i3-7350K.

>>58891276
Oh boy, another portion of damage control.

Even if the 1700 is 15% slower than a 6700K at that price it's still a fucking bargain.

>>58891389
How the fuck can 8core chip with Broadwell-E IPC with higher clocks than said Broadwell chips be slower than shitty quad-core?

>>58891408
Intel's quad cores are clocked higher.
Falling behind in single core performance is to be expected.

3.4ghz~ 8c/16t Ryzen isn't going to be matching 4ghz Skylake or Kaby Lake in more serial performance metrics.

>>58891260
Wait how do you know it's a bubble? AMD looks like normal steady growth to me. I mean the company hasn't had stellar quarterly reports, but if AMD can back up these Ryzen claims with benchmarks then they will have cornered the PC gaming market for 2017.

Whenever you combine Ryzen being promoted by AMD as a CPU for PC gamers that *hopefully* rakes Core i7's across the coals performance wise, and KabyLake CPU's having almost no upgrade over the previous Intel generation (while also having heating issues), then this just seems to be a catalyst for AMD to take a chunk out of Intel's PC Gaming market sector for 2017.

I just don't know how big that sector is.

>>58891452
PC gaymen is still pretty small market. The real money lies in enterprise. And oh boy, they are about to whack the living shit out of Intel there.

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>Putin = Ryzen
>4670k = cat

Wonder if it's time to upgrade.

>>58891523
Hy, зaвиcит oт цeн в paшкe.

>>58891452
>Wait how do you know it's a bubble?
Technically the entire stock market is in a bubble now. All the artificial money that stimulated the economy through QE has wound up in the market, so everything is hyper inflated. We're looking at bubbles within bubbles.
AMD was trading under $2 per share not long ago, they're well over $13 now. Everyone can see the potential here. Its ripe to exploit. You have to remember that the market is a fluid thing, and people are entirely capable of creating small bubbles entirely for their own benefit. All that has to happen is for it to reach that critical mass where others start buying in to raise the point beyond confidence. Take a look at their historical trend. They've had two huge bubbles before. This will be the third.

>>58886971
they've been proven to do so multiple times already

>>58891568
>insert random benchmark using a feature that isn't actually in any production software using a custom compiler with custom optimizations
>15% faster!

>>58891581
You just described Intel.

>>58891581
you mean exactly like intel used to do in order to make their chips look more appealing?

thanks for using a trip so i can filter you

>>58891480
Don't they already supply chipsets to Sony and Microsoft for their gaming consoles?

I feel that whoever can strike a deal with these companies to supply chipsets for the next generation of consoles will receive a large boost in market share. 4K televisions will more than likely become affordable to the average consumer, and parents will want their kids to enjoy their new tv purchase with a console that natively supports the resolution.

Project Scorpio (next-gen xbox) will supposedly use a Zen processor. This would also allow people who are wanting a lower price for entry into PC gaming have an easier transition. Think about how many people search up, "PC builds that cost as much as an Xbox One." Now many of these people will be told that they can purchase the same CPU used in the new Xbox at a very cheap price point for their PC build.

>>58891553
What are you setting your stop loss at for AMD?

>>58891601
It's still not that big of a deal compared to raw number of chips Intel ships each quarter. As I said, real money lies in enterprise.

>>58891601
well AMD already supplies the parts for the OG Xbone, Xbone Scorpio, PS4, and PS4 Pro, as well as the Wii U up until they stopped producing it

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>>58886977
ALL of them have unlocked multipliers.
The X has AMDs new extended frequency range that allows the CPU to OC itself depending upon your cooling.

>>58891665
will this mean the lowest-end Ryzen chip will be the best budget overclocker?

>>58891675
Depends on the binning, but yes, you can OC it as much as you want.

>>58890095
where are you getting these mhz to gbps formulas from?

>>58891675
Depends on silicon lottery.

>>58891702
>>58891719
do you think most Ryzen chips will be able to overclock about the same?

it's always luck of the draw but as an example, the i5 3570k and i7 3770k were able to overclock about the same amount

>>58891735
Depends on your luck. Black Edition chips will have better binning on average but you need to pay up for that.

>>58891618
If I sold out now I'd be pretty well off, though anything north of $4 and I still manage a small profit after fees. I wholly anticipate a lot of bouncing back and forth, so I couldn't even start to be uncomfortable until they dropped below $8 for a few weeks solid. If they drop below $6 thats my warning, if they stay there for a couple days or drop any further I sell.
The aspect of volatility is there, but I'm not buying into some blue chip to pad my retirement when I'm 70.

>>58891706
Memory bandwidth is a simple function of interface width multiplied by frequency.

>>58891735
Can't know yet. We don't know how aggressive AMD is being with binning.

>>58891156
I really want this and it seems possible with how cut down the sff chipset is

>>58887869
it works on the FX platform perfectly.

>>58891214
>What's the catch though?

The catch is that Intel was farming the market alone for years and you got used to it.

>>58891435
>Intel's quad cores are clocked higher.

See 1800X.

>>58891781
From what I read the chipset just supplies some extra PCIE/USB/Sata it would be cool if Ryzen can act like AMDs AM1 socket which doesn't even have a chipset on the board

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>no windows 7 support
It's DoA

>>58891956
It has a chipset, but the chipset acts more like a Mux than anything else.

>>58886889
>Minecraft Server only needs a decent CPU
To run a 10 person server you need like 8GB of RAM because of java

>>58891991
pssst nobody gives a fuck but internet autists who cry "MUH BOTNET"

>>58891991
I'll be running Xen with a Windows 7 Dom1. IDGAF.

>>58891991
Windows 7 has had a decent enough ride. The kernel can only be patched so much to try to support new hardware. Unless Microsoft pulls a service pack out of its ass we have passed getting new hardware support on windows 7

>>58891991
Such and intelligent and thought out post.

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>>58891665
I can't wait for a new wave of Amadaposting.

>>58892154
I can't wait for Keller sticky.

I bought a 7700K and Z270 mobo couple weeks ago.

Literally considering selling it if the 1700 is that cheap.

>>58891991
You don't need drivers to use new CPUs on older operating systems, you retarded fuck.

The only time a new CPU will stop working with Windows 7 is if they aren't x86/AMD64 CPUs anymore.

When you install Windows 7 on a computer with an Intel 7700k, it never asks you to install a CPU driver. What you need to install are drivers for all the other components like iGPU, Motherboard, etc.

>>58892196
>>58892154
>>58891665
is there more art of Amada-tan or is she too much of a one-off OS-tan thing?

>>58891097
unless you're retarded, you should understand by now that you don't need drivers for new CPUs.

>>58892235
There's a good amount, but it's not all in one place.

>>58892242
>but it's not all in one place
so no wiki or booru or anything? shame

>>58892256
I could put together whatever I've got.

AMD wanted to launch their high end products first right? Or will the quadcores be available at the same time?

>>58892195
With that basis, you can install Windows 98 as well on an 7700k even if somehow you had proper GPU and sata drivers you still can't get past the the 1-core limitation. Windows 7 has sort've the same issue with all the new hardware coming out, some things just will not be well supported or will just not work

>>58892275
that'd be real sweet of you anon

>>58892293
not him but can you imagine the single core performance of a 7700k driving 98? shit would be insane

>>58891214
It's almost like Intel is pricing whatever the fuck they want since no one is competing with them. Their marketshare on the enterprise is ridiculous.

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>>58892310
V I R T U A L M A C H I N E

>>58892291
No, only the high end cause they have problem with the Globalfoundries wafers. Thats also why cpc think the base clock is low

>>58892310
If you can fuck with the kernel enough to get it to run on something higher than 2.2ghz. and with only one core needed nothing is stopping you from OCing the hell out of it. Your BIOS would take more time to boot than Win98 would

>>58892291
Full product stack at launch was stated in one of the showings recently.

>>58892354
Stop spreading fud.

>>58892354
This post is too stupid for words.

>>58892354
They have problems with what? Poolaris has great yields.

>>58892374
>>58892383
>>58892391
AMD WILL NOT RELEASE QUAD CORE AT THE DAY ONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE PRODUCTION PROBLEM

>>58892428
What problem? There are no native 4c parts to begin with.

>>58892428
Source?
>my ass

>>58889471
You aren't required to use 10.

When they say they aren't "releasing drivers for 7" they mean they aren't releasing CPU drivers, at all, because nobody does.

If that was the case you would need to download CPU drivers for installing offline to Win7 of ANY CPU newer than the OS, which you don't. (Only drivers you need are things like motherboard/chipset and iGPU, Audio, etc.)

>>58892293
>With that basis, you can install Windows 98 as well on an 7700k
Actually, yes, you hit the nail on the head. If you set SATA to IDE mode and and locked the CPU to only 1 Core in the UEFI, no drivers for the motherboard, though.

See, 98 will crash when running more than one CPU, because it wasn't made to run on Multi-CPU/SMT.

But Ryzen isn't doing anything that Windows 7 doesn't expect, pipeline-wise;
Starting with Win2k, and further refined with each release of Windows, is the ability to scale with two or more processors. SMT (Hyper-Threading) support has been in place since XP.

>>58886709
>A $320 Rival To Intel’s $1099 6900K
Lol, keep dreaming. AMD's cores aren't even worth a third of a proper Intel core.

>>58892450
Could you please stop shitposting, because for once people are actually discussing fucking tech here.

>>58892428
You're such a retard.
The Zeppelin die is an 8c part. A 4c chip would be a heavily defect binned one, anon. If they weren't getting high numbers of viable 4c dies that means they have the vast majority of dies with all 8 cores working.

They don't produce 4c parts because they want to, they salvage these defective parts to recoup loss.

You're too retarded to even understand what you're saying.

>AMD HAS FOUNDRY PROBLEMS!!!!!
>THEIR YIELDS ARE TOO HIGH!
>YIELDS ARE SO HIGH ITS A PROBLEM!
>HOW CAN THEY SELL SALVAGED PARTS IF EVERYTHING WORKS!!!?!

>no win7 driver
I am stupid for waiting for ryzen
Time to buy the best skylake CPU and stick with it until I die

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>>58892463
Breaking news: AMD is troubled by high amounts of success; company unsure how to proceed. Sources point to one man being at fault.

>>58892450
Except this isn't a reiteration of their previous architectures.

This is a completely new x86-64 CPU.

Hell, even the pipeline stages are new.

>>58892473
Skylake doesn't have win7 drivers

>>58892498
I am running Win7 on i3-6100 what the fuck are you saying m8?

>>58892473
I'm pretty much convinced it's just one retard spamming the "no win 7 because no drivers" meme

By that logic you can't run win 7 on Kaby Lake, either.

>>58892510
That's exactly his point: you didn't need to install fucking drivers to run a new CPU.

>>58892510
What I'm saying, is that Win7 will run on Ryzen. AMD has said as much. They just won't provide improved support for it, in the same way that Intel doesn't provide improved support for Skylake.

I hope it is actually good, fucking intel is ultra expensive in my third world shithole and FX-8350 was the worst money I had ever spent in the past before I switched to intel.

>>58892510
An OS working on a given processor doesn't mean it has specific drivers, or will receive updates.
Ryzen was tested and validated to work under Windows 7, just as Skylake works under Windows 7.

>>58886709
>all these leaks keep coming out
>with each leak the clock frequencies get higher and the prices get lower
Lets not build hype to the extent that Ryzen will never be able to live up to. Wait until actual information from AMD comes out.

>>58892438
>>58892441
>>58892463
https://www.cpchardware.com/intel-prepare-la-riposte-a-ryzen/

>>58892541
That's OC'd i7 and i5 with hyper-threadan for x299 platform.

>>58892515
>win7 on kaby lake
but didnt mirosoft/intel say that kaby lake will only run win10 by design or something?

>>58892306
Ok, here it is. http://www.mediafire.com/file/8v26cd117rcscs2/amadaDump.zip

>>58892571
No, but built-in DRM only werks on W10. And it only werks in Edge.

>>58892528
We're reaching the peak of the hype rollercoaster, which means that there will be very misleading pricing info coming from places like wccftech.
I'd stick with ~350usd for the 1700X, to compete with the i7-7700k, and ~$500 for the 1800X to sit just underneath the 3850k

>>58892541
>Intel has prepared 800$ CPU to counter 320$ CPU

wow

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We will fight for the right of the OP to shill for our services and we will deposit 5 shekels to his corporate account.

>>58892574
You wouldn't upload a virus would you?
My CommonSense2016 is tingling, but slightly outdated.

>>58892571
You can install Sky/Kaby lake in Windows 7 using a DVD but Windows 7 is missing drivers for the chipset like the USB.

You can install driver for Skylake after you've installed Windows 7, I don't know if Kaby has drivers.

>>58892582
>DRM doesn't work
And nothing of value was lost.

>>58892448
My wholepoint behind >>58892293 was the fact that yes Windows 7 will just run just fine so would any other x86 based OS. Its any new hardware features like Intel optane or any new fancy thing that comes out of a usb type c port would be hard adapting to a nearly 8 year old codebase. Like trying to adapt windows 98 to be multi-core aware

>>58892571
How's that working out for them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDR5qiwDrV0

>>58892541
You're genuinely too retarded to understand a speculative article. Astounding.
A lack of viable 4c Zeppelin dies is not a yield issue, a lack of fully working 8c dies is. They have no idea what clocks of a prospective 4c die would even be, they're guessing.

If the arch is hitting 3.6ghz at 10w per core on the process then a 4c part would be under 65w at the same speed. They have plenty of thermal headroom to increase clocks beyond that of the full 8c parts.

>>58892606
It's just jpgs gifs and pngs.

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>>58892574
thanks friend
what's intel-tan's name?

also wondering if you have any Inori Aizawa stuff

>Inori Aizawa will never get her own anime

>>58892606
guy who asked for it here; can confirm it's virus-free

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>>58892608
Win7 is just missing USB3.0 drivers. If your motherboard has USB2.0 ports, it will install just fine.

>>58892574

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nice source you got there

>>58892639
The other two girls are Amada's classmates.

>>58892611
Except Windows 7 already has support for pretty much all the things New CPUs and platforms have.

CPU instruction sets like AVX2 and newer are things Windows never had to be changed for programs to use, since if you run a program to test if it can use AVX2 on Windows 7, it can.

Hell, even NVMe can be used in Windows 7.

>>58892660
i need a run-down for all this lore

>>58892677
It's more to do with turbo states and power management.

>>58892541
This seems to entirely be speculation by canardpc. The only thing that might hurt them is that the quads dont appear to be clocked very high, which may or may not matter at all. The die size is pretty goddamn small, about as big as a polaris die, and those can be sold for less than 160$ for a profit now.

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>>58892650
>pajeet paper singing amd's praises
Gee, who would've guessed.

>NO KABY LAKE DRIVERS FOR WIN7!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDR5qiwDrV0

Alright, you fanboys/shills, I'm done with /g/.

You people subjective little turdmunchers are the Zeitgeist of Idiocy.

>>58892747
Leave Pajeets alone. Those are straight muslims altogether. You wish they were Indian.
The fucking CEO is called Abdullah Assaad.

>>58892798
>Abdullah Assaad
That is one badass name.

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>>58892574
>that one zoomed in picture of lisa su's face

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>>58892841

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>>58891156
>>58891781
Biostar revealed one a few days ago, pic related

There are at least two other companies (presumably Asrock is one of them) that are working on AM4 ITX boards as well

I have bought my case and RAM already, waiting for the summer so I can get the Ryzen APU and make me a tiny all purpose machine

Even the newly released Bristol Ridge can pull 40fps on Doom Vulkan at 768p, I can imagine Raven Ridge will be a success among casual users

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>>58892857

>>58892882
lol no optane no way

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>>58892887

>>58892930
isn't optane intel specific?

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>>58892945

>>58892945
lisa pls

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>doubting jim keller

i hope you guys dont do this

ryzen will be a kick to intels nuts

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>>58892971

>>58892882
HDMI 1.4b? fucking still? I understand not many are going to use integrated graphics, but get with the fucking times

>>58892995
Who the fuck uses HDMI for anything but a TV anymore? Also, if you're doing a TV, why would you need more than 4K30Hz

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>>58886709
Excuse me, but I can have a 4.2 GHz i7-7700K for under €360. Why exactly am I to be excited about some AMD chip for $320?

>>58893034
8 cores unlocked
4 cores at ~$200
6 cores at ~$300

>>58892882
>vivid LED DJ
i just came

>>58893015
Because I'm a cheap ass like many others that would to use a cheap 43 inch TV as a monitor some LG ones even have an IPS screen. I'm no gaymer so latency isn't that big of an issue and 30hz is cancer

>>58893034
>Excuse me, I bought 4 cores and 8 threads for 360 yuropoors. Why exactly am I to be excited about 8 cores and 16 threads for 320 cuckbucks?

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>>58892995
There are AM4 boards with HDMI 2.0.

>>58893089
>cheap 43 inch TV as a monitor
1.4b is fine for you then. Thanks for proving my point.

>>58893102
1.4b still only does 30hz and when I meant cheap I meant you can get 43 inch 4k 60z TVs for a lot less than a same size monitor

>>58893015
Because the only 4k OLED displays with DisplayPort cost $5000+.

If you use HDMI, then 4k OLED displays are "only" ~$1500.

Though if you're paying over $1000 for a display, then you shouldn't have any reservations spending money on an active DisplayPort --to-> HDMI 2.0 adapter.

>>58893149
That's fucked. Also, wait for Raven ridge before commenting on that.

>>58891581
They used the binary file for blender dumbass.
You're getting sloppy in your age Jordan.

>>58893189
If you're OK with 4:2:0 then you can do 60Hz at 4k over HDMI 1.4.

>>58893095
>no pci e 4.0
>no sata 4 (3.2 or whatever the fuk they calling it)
i'll wait.

>>58893227
>wanting standards that aren't even finalized yet
Are you a fucking retard or what?

>>58893243
of course he is

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>>58893243
>not being retarded

>>58893227
Standards aren't done yet.
Besides what could saturate a PCI-e 3.0 16x bus?

Also there is still m.2 for your boot drive the sata ports there are mainly there for some spinning rust drives

>>58887264
The cheapest one that can overclock decently and it has to have 6 sata ports. I don't care about other features.

So with news that GloFlo is expanding 14nm production, anyone think that AMD might make some chips at Samsung if GloFlo cant keep up with demand in the coming months? I would be interested to see of there would be a difference in clocks and power draw between the two foundries.

>>58893375
don't GloFo and samsung have some partnership or something?

>>58893395
yeh

>>58893375
Global Foundries Fab8 has a capacity of 60,000 14nm wafers per month. They've got plenty of capacity to go around for most of AMD's parts, but semi-custom demands might push them over the top. Samsung providing some additional volume is likely.
They could easily put out a few million working chips per month, but AMD's product line up is so wide spread it might not be enough.

>>58893395
Yes. Is Samsung needs additional volume GloFo will help them pick up the slack, and if GloFo needs more wafers Samsung will run them.

>>58887934
to put it very simply, intel has the worst ceo/management they could have ever had, horrible decisions are coming back to bit them in the ass hard, and they just admitted to shareholders shits fucked, and that's when you don't take amd being competitive into the equation.

>>58887129
Worst lottery ever, at this rate we are pretty much certain to be getting Shitfoundry chips.

>>58888054
skylake is about 2-4% better on average then broadwell so dickall.

skylake-e has potential, but the potential is unrealized for probably one generation as the instruction set they are bringing to it is avx512 and how much shit takes advantage of that currently that you use? It will likely be at least 3 months before pro applications take advantage of it, 1 year before is at least rudimentarily integrated in many and 2-3 before universal support.

At that point you may as well get an opteron. for similar cost, but power cores and likely more power offsetting gains from 512.

>>58889652
set up a twitter and just tweet all of intel's lead engineers your benchmarks, and marketing people the cost then the ceo sent amd's stock price

>>58893813
You're an idiot.

>>58891097
>>58892240
Chipset is still important

We got conflicting reports of amd having drivers and not having drivers, either way it will still likely work.

>>58891274
yes and no.
cpu prices have not gone down at fucking all even after a shrink from 32nm down to 14, shit takes up so much less space, that you can put in 8 cores and sell it for less then 200 and still pull proffit. hell, for amd to be at equal price to piledriver per unit sold, they would need to have 16 cores on die.

Intel has no competition for a long time, and it shows, now amd has no competition and the price is still relatively inflated to what it should be if they had proper competition.

>>58892841
>>58892857
>>58892887
>>58892945
>>58892967
>>58892984
Why am I laughing on these?

>inb4 STOP buying Intel

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>>58894107
>laughing on
Oh honey, you chink-pajeets can never get your English right. What a fiddly-flap of a doodle you landed yourself into this time.

>>58893813
Silicon Lottery will supposedly be carrying Ryzen chips.

>>58894143
>Silicon Lottery
They appear to have stopped getting more e line intels,

>>58894134
wow what a deep arguement faggot

>>58887264
6 sata ports, a pcie 4x connector before the first pcie 16x, and good overclocking capability because i'm letting the processor do its fucking thing and oc itself, don't want to be held back by power envelope or shitty headroom.

>>58887817
microsoft does not follow the hosts file for its own servers.

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>>58894176
Don't be a little poo bear, sweetie, just because you can't ever get your English to come out properly. Sweetie boo-boo honey.

>>58887368
should have went i3, then sold it the moment ryzen came out.

sell your shit and buy amd when available, you may get lucky and get close to retail.

>>58887610
intel has had a dick in your ass for years, and stagnated pc development by refusing to get off the pentium 3 core arch

as far as im concerned, I want to watch them crash and burn hard, as they have not made a single arch sense the p6 that was worth a damn, going to be so happy when I watch them fly head first into the ground... possibly buy up some stock in them when they hit that 1$ mark like amd did.

>>58888214
no paper, they have been stockpiling them since december at latest, up to 36 million cpus with sub 20% being 6 or lower is possible.

>>58894350
[citation needed]

>>58894289
Why bother with upgrading your CPU anyway? It's utterly, utterly pointless and has been since at least 2008.

>>58894358
http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/101290-amd-confirms-ryzen-cpus-will-unlocked/
>This won't be a paper launch and you will be able to buy Ryzen chips from launch day according to AMD's Jim Anderson.