Which Linux Distro has: >drag and drop file moving >software

>>58866329
none

>>58866329
Ubuntu checks all the boxes except lightweight. Which, unless youre running on a potato or livecd, should not be an issue.

>>58866348
How's the package manager in ubuntu now? The old one in 12.04/14.04 was slow and froze all the time

>>58866367
The package manager werks for me. If it doesn't for you, get a different one.

>software support on ubuntu/arch level
>ubuntu/arch

Xubuntu fits all of those.
It's also fairly lightweight.

>>58866329
Xubuntu

>>58866329
Mint and any Ubuntu variants.
Or you can install Ubuntu server and install whatever desktop environment you want.

>>58866329
Arch Linux

>>58866329
Gentoo

>>58866329
Gentoo. Arch and macOS are for pajeets.

>>58866367
It's a broken piece of crap. The graphical frontend fails to install anything 100% of the time and doesn't give any error message. The update manager freezes constantly. It's worse than it's ever been. The command line tool works (barely) but needs workarounds because it constantly fails to fetch lists and update correctly.

LFS

>>58866329
>>drag and drop file moving
everyone, your DE is generally not distro depended
>>software support on ubuntu/arch level
everyone, software is not distro depended
>>stability
everyone
>>full driver support without having to compile your own drivers from sourcecode
most
>>ricability
everyone, software is not distro depended
>>actual marketshare in the linux segment so devs actually give a shit about it
doesnt matter software is not distro depended
>>leightweightness
everyone, software is not distro depended
>>a nice package manager with good support
everyone, software is not distro depended
>>fast boot times like win10
everyone, software is not distro depended

use Ubuntu/arch/manjaro

>>58867894
This

>>58868084
This is a good shit too, Arch and macOS are for pajeets.

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easy

>>58868042
>>58868030
This.

>>58866329
ubuntu. just remove all the software you don't need, it fits every other criteria.

>>58868046
never had theese problems in 16.04.

>>58866329
>drag and drop file moving
Any which isn't exclusively terminal and without a DE.
>software support on ubuntu/arch level
All debian, arch and suse based distros.
>stability
Most normie distros. Don't install stuff that makes system changes and you'll be fine.
>full driver support without having to compile your own drivers from sourcecode
Ubuntu, manjaro (from my experience), anything based on ubuntu, debian, arch or openSUSE.
>ricability
Arch during installation, but all distributions can be riced just not within a constricted DE like Unity.
>actual marketshare in the linux segment so devs actually give a shit about it
Mainly Ubuntu, debian and their derivatives. Most sites will provide a deb and an rpm package for Linux.
>leightweightness
DE dependent. Install XFCE or use an XFCE variant of the preferred distro, but it looks like crap by default on most distros so you'll have to spend a few minutes configuring it.
>a nice package manager with good support
All non-outdated ones.
>fast boot times like win10
Almost all normie ones which aren't bloated like Zorin. My windows boots slower than Manjaro XFCE, for example.

>>58866329
My Arch system has all of these, I dont see what you're missing with Pacman and AUR

Get arch or fedora

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Don't want much do you?

Ubuntu is probably the closest you'll get.

>>58866329
macOS

Gentoo is the only choice

>>58866334
This.

>2017
>still not year of the linux desktop

It's sad, for people who claim to be computer literate, they still can't even match the usability of Windows.

OpenSUSE

Not op, I tried Linux mint cinamon, it was ok, but couldn't for life of me install nvidias drivers, I even looked up doing online, I learned how to use basic terminal cmds, felt very primitive imo, but every time all my settings were reset everytime I booted, I later switched back windows 7, haven't messed with Linux again

>>58869784
Ick, I can't believe this is still a thing.

I had the same issue with ATi drivers back in 2006 or so. I spent an entire day trying different tutorials and none of them worked. I eventually reached out on some forums only to be met with elitists who told me to google it, even after explaining which steps I took, provided errors and what not.

An entire day trying to install a GPU driver with zero help from the community. And people wonder why nobody uses Linux.

>>58866329
>drag and drop file moving
Most of them, although it's quite buggy.
>software support on ubuntu/arch level
Ubuntu or Arch. Also, I hope you aren't implying that either have good software support.
>stability
It depends what you mean. The Linux kernel is quite solid, you probably won't get a panic with any given distro you use. But all of them have issues like wifi boards dropping out after enough uptime, glitchy GUIs, etc
>full driver support without having to compile your own drivers from sourcecode
If the driver you need is not bundled into the kernel, you are going to have a bad time no matter what distro you use.
>ricability
Most of them let you tweak stuff. Avoid Unity.
>actual marketshare in the linux segment so devs actually give a shit about it
For a server: Debian or RHEL.
For a desktop: None. Who in their right mind would support desktop Linux for their software product? There are a few who are crazy enough. They will learn in time. In the meantime, if you want their products, go with Ubuntu LTS.
>leightweightness
DSL. But in all seriousness- none, but it doesn't matter with today's hardware.
>a nice package manager with good support
None. Package management, outside of core system tools and libs, is a failed concept. apt-get is fine for deploying system security updates to servers, useless for installing desktop apps. Same for rpm etc.
>fast boot times like win10
None as fast as win10. Anything using systemd will probably be Fast Enough (tm).

>>58870359
Wasn't OP looking for all of those things in one distro?

>>58867894
>you can install Ubuntu server and install whatever desktop environment you want
What are the benefits vs normal Ubuntu?

Debian. Stable on servers, Sid on desktops. Just use netinstall and select the DE (level of bloat) as you install.

>>58871818
I know. But he'd have a better chance of getting a blowjob in a tibetan monastery.

>>58870359
>I haven't used Linux, the post

>>58872344
Kek

>>58868089
>>58868415
>>58868438
>>58870359
I want to be able to drag images from a chromium browser into a file manager in order to save the image in that location. Can any of you confirm that it is possible and if so can you give me some hints as to how to achieve it?
For starters, would it be a browser, a DE or a file manager feature?

>>58872451
>I have stockholm syndrome, the post
I used desktop linux for significant periods of time, actually. It never stopped being shit despite my efforts. You have invested so much time into learning it and working arounds its problems that you refuse to accept any suggestion that it might not actually be all that great.

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>fast boot times like win10
nothing else boots as fast for some reason, usually when the kernel is loading is takes forever compared to Windows 10.

I don't know why. I don't change my hardware or anything.

>>58866329
How about all of them.

>>58866329
>>full driver support without having to compile your own drivers from sourcecode
None.

>>58872748
Windows optimizes itself for startup. It's something you really shouldn't be concerned about at all as long as you aren't taking more than a minute to boot.

>>58866329
> fast boot times like win10
> fast
> FAST
Are you retarded? You call that bloated shit fast, wtf? literally every linux distro boots faster

>>58872748
It's called hibernation and sleep. It doesn't actually boot.

>>58872616
It works for millions of people, you're the problem.

>using a kernel written by a student as a project
>2017
Lmfao retards

>>58872827
Windows take literally 5-6 seconds to boot for me and it's usable after those 5-6 second too, no waiting for anything to load, can't say the same for any linux installations I've had.

>>58871903
no bloat

>>58872478
browser feature

>>58872966
>thisisbait.jpg
my arch linux does this from cold boot (i.e. from being off.) Or are you only talking about waking up from hibernate / sleep? In which case lol 5 seconds

>>58873086
from power supply switched off to desktop in 5 seconds linuxcuck

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>>58866329
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>58873033
To emphasize this, currently in chrome on arch linux if I drag and drop an image to another app, it pastes the URL of the image to whatever text field I drop it onto. And this is apparently desired behavior from the chrome devs, they want to avoid you accidentally downloading a file you didn't mean to, c.f.:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/beBpN6Thex0

>>58873108
lol but I get that easily so what's your deal? This is important to me since I do some low level kernel stuff that frequently requires me to hard-reboot the system every few minutes or so, so getting to usable desktop in 5 seconds is comfy. And I didn't really do anything special to get here...

>>58869658
Seconding this. OpenSUSE Leap is actually a pretty mature distro. Also, I feel that having a graphical control-panel program (yast) makes it easier for Windows users to migrate to it. Granted its kind of annoying if you're used to debian...

>>58866329
Fuck lincucks, install Mac OS X. It's pretty light (IMO)

>>58872877
>implying Windows NT is any different
?

>>58872966
Manjaro takes 3 seconds to boot on my machine and is usable as well. This is providing I remove password protection, otherwise it takes however long I'm typing the password.

>>58873219
NT was developed as a commerical kernel, Linux was literally when Torvalds was in college lmao

>>58866329
>Which Linux Distro has:
Fedora
>>drag and drop file moving
Nautilus
>>software support on ubuntu/arch level
Has free software, nonfree on well supported rpmfusion repo, copr == aur
>>stability
Fedora is stable enough for a workstation, for LTS see CentOS
>>full driver support without having to compile your own drivers from sourcecode
Great, don't forget rpmfusion if you want nonfree wifi or nvidia
>>ricability
Any distro has that you dip
>>actual marketshare in the linux segment so devs actually give a shit about it
Mostly used by sysadmins
>>leightweightness
Intel Core i3, 8GB RAM, small SSD? Will run like a charm.
>>a nice package manager with good support
dnf is great imo. Slightly slower than apt. I've never been able to fuck shit up. Also I love that it displays from which repo a package or update comes.
>>fast boot times like win10
Any distro ...
>???

>>58873407
>both made by humans
You have no arguments.

>>58872844
But I turned off my computer. I don't put it to hibernate or sleep.

>>58873442
>use centos server, update with yum
>decide to try it for desktop, use fedora
>update with yum
>realize DNF is a thing, try it
>everything breaks
>think its because I'm a moron foruse 2 different package managers
>turns out yum is an alias of dnf
Tried fedora 20 and 21. Happened on both.
dnf = do not fuckwiddit.

>>58873550
It's defaulted to hibernation. Microsoft said that themselves when windows 10 was released.

>>58873553
I've only started using Fedora a lot since 22.

>>58873650
Also disable fastboot.

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>>58873650
??

>>58873821
Go into power options and select "Choose what the power buttons do" at the top left. Then uncheck "Turn on fast startup". If the option is greyed out, click "change settings that are currently unavilable" at the top.

>>58873455
Wrong, NT was made by a cryptojew. You can't classify them as human

>>58873243
What platform (mobo)? Can you take a video or something?

>>58866329
I'm using Ubuntu Gnome, and to he fair, it should qualify for most of your demands.

>>58866329
Antergos (arch) if you have nvidia gpu.

>>58868253
I don't know a single person in real life who doesn't have these problems. All our work laptops come with ubugu 16.04 and everyone has had the same slew of problems. One dude got so fed up he installed windows 10 and uses the ubuntu emulation layer instead.

I would say Xubuntu.

It's all of that pretty much. Most of them are Ubuntu, then you choose XFCE instead of Unity because you need speed.

The nice package manager, there's a thing a lot of people forget about and still exists: Synaptic.

And fast boot times, systemd-analyze blame, check what's going on and disable whatever is being an asshole.

>>58872616
The problem is that your "efforts" were reading the arch-wiki and installing i3-gapps. How about you help with development or at least give money to the maintainers? Nah, instead you went back to drinking verification cans. hfgl.

>>58874767
Oh also, Ubuntu specifically (I don't know about flavors) works with that windows 8 mode enabled on the BIOS. You know the one. That one that doesn't let you use any other OS. But somehow works with Ubuntu which is nice, because you get faster boot times.

>>58874823
Of course it works with Ubuntu. Canonical is sucking MS dick with passion.

>>58874802
Not him, but why would I donate to some shitty project that I have no desire to use in the first place? You fanboys are the ones telling everyone that they need to use Linux. If you want everyone else to use it so bad, why don't you donate? Linux is a fucking disaster on the desktop and it's been that way for decades.

>>58874593
Okay I'll asume you're >>58868046. Instead of using the software center why don't you install software "windows style" then? Download the deb package or an sh installer, open a terminal and simply drag and drop the installer and hit enter, type in the password and it will start installing (I don't remember if you have to use sudo since I have this in muscle memory). You could also double click it as you would an exe file, but this does not work on sh files from what I remember.
I had the same problem back in Ubuntu 15.something and I just gave up and started downloading manual installers. Using a terminal would actually be faster. As for update manager freezing I also had that too back in 14.10, but not in the last version I used, which is the current latest version (16.something). It's stable and those issues seem to be fixed. One exception being the graphical installer which sometimes doesn't prompt you to enter the password and installation fails to occur. This is a minor issue since you have 2 other ways of installing software.

>>58866329
literally arch

>>58874861
It's fine if you're okay with watching ads before you can log into your system and sending all your info directly to the NSA.
Linux is shit because everyone is okay with being cucked by MS and Apple, only occasionally whining on facial-recognitionbook.
But if that's the path you choose don't come back when you can't open your loli porn on your touchscreen toys anymore.

>>58874951
I don't have to watch or see any ads. I assume you're talking about suggestions from the Windows store- every tech literate person knows those can be disabled, in fact you don't even need to use the default start menu.

If you need to use hyperbole and FUD to convince yourself to use shitty software, you may want to re-examine your life and educate yourself.

>>58875094
>I don't have to watch or see any ads yet
So you consider yourself tech literate and educated, yeah? What do you do for a living?

>>58875190
>hyperbole and FUD again
>trying to change the subject after getting BTFO

It's like clockwork with you NEET losers.

>>58874924
Because it fails in the exact same way as trying to download shit from the graphical frontend. dpkg does work, but holy shit if this is your "solution" to the ubugu problem, why would I ever use it over even fucking homosex or wangblows?
Gentoo does not have this problem and never has. It's pathetic that ubuntu does in 2016. It's even more pathetic that the problem has yet to be fixed.

>>58875343
I'm at work. What about you? Watching Sargon of Akkad?
>hyperbole and FUD
oh yeah the crops have been burning every year and it's been getting really bad lately but don't worry this year it won't happen. It's actually quite chilly outside.

>>58875426
>oh yeah the crops have been burning every year and it's been getting really bad lately but don't worry this year it won't happen. It's actually quite chilly outside.

False analogy.

Let me guess, smoke break at McDonalds?

>>58875461
>False analogy.
accurate observation.
>smoke break at McDonalds?
have to win internet fight break in my office.
What about you?
>accusing me of changing the subject
>won't answer questions, won't argue, falacy falacy

>>58875558
We left off with you trying to argue that something was going to happen based on your false assumption about something previously existing, fryboy.

>>58872748
When you "power off" windows 10, it doesn't completely lose the entire context. Only the user space context is lost. The kernel space context is stored similarly to hibernation (S4). That way, it only has to init the user space on power up. When you command a restart, it loses both and does a complete init.

>>58866329
given that you posted mostly incomprehensible garbage, I'm going to tell you to fuck off instead.

install gentoo.

>>58875653
Thanks for reminding me. So Microsoft has not been getting ever more invasive in it's privacy policies? The secret services have not been pushing for more surveillance? Proprietary software is not trying to limit the ways in which I can use it?
Damn fake news got me again.

>>58867926
This

>>58866329
Debian with XFCE, LXDE, or Cinnamon. You may need non-free drivers for stuff like your wireless card. You can download them and put them in a folder in the install media yourself or you can install the drivers after you install the system.

>>58866334
fpbp

>>58866348
How is Unity2D or Xfce not lightweight

>>58875398
>using an outdated OS
>why doesn't it work?!