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Why'd the computer hacking "scene" die out among

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Why'd the computer hacking "scene" die out among western teenagers? It seems like "hackers" these days are 30-something men with advanced degrees on government payrolls, and/or professional criminals from places like Belarus.
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black culture took over
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>>58846400
It got hard.
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>>58846400
Because everything a western teen would normally encounter is spoonfed and 'tard-protected now.
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Hacking became punishable by incredibly draconian jail sentences and so all the fun was taken away.

Now, if you find an exploit, you're not gonna waste it on a petty gag, you're going to make money with it or sell it to someone who will.
Why take the risk otherwise?
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>>58846444
Trips of truth.
It's harder to hide.
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>>58846400
>posting a picture of an article
>no source
>no pastebin

please
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Because kids are too busy posting pictures of their feet on facebook or sexting dick pics with snapchat.
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Western teenagers these days are barely literate and have almost no math skills.
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>>58846400
Many things, among which the fact it's basically impossible to get the same relative results now compared to before (whereas you could pwn a major database, thus becoming rich and also being offered employment for that, all with simple tricks, now you get to be on the FBI's most wanted list and to get shot in the back if you are good enough to hack into a school's server, which still requires significantly more knowledge and work).
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>>58846500
Try actually reading the article, shit for brains.
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>>58846500
This post is a perfect example of why western teenagers don't hack anymore. How are they going to hack anything when they're too fucking retarded to do basic daily tasks.

Here's your spoon-feeding, little babby, eat up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Glass

The story "Hack Heaven" was written by Stephen Glass and published in the magazine "The New Republic" in 1998. Shortly afterwards it was discovered that the entire story was made up and Stephen Glass was fired. "The New Republic" subsequently determined that at least 27 of the 41 articles Glass wrote for the magazine contained fabricated material.
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>>58846662
Glass was pressured by powerful interests to discredit himself and CLAIM that his articles had been "fabricated."

As to why those interests needed him silenced... well, that's a matter of speculation...
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Because apps and iPhones XDDD
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>>58846662
i'm from japan
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>>58846400
Minecraft

The Russians cucked the Swedes into making Minecraft knowing full well that it would bring about the downfall of tech literacy among American youth now made loyal to the gamingjew.

Who better to bring their plan into motion than a fat neckbeard Swedecuck?

Modern American "hackers" can now be found in your local coffee shop rambling incoherently about the latest ecmascript starboard insulation functionalities.
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They're still out there but they're too busy watching people masturbate in front of their computers rather than spending their time doing or building something meaningful.
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>>58846400
Probably smartphones if I had to guess
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it is too comfortable and so the people become risk adverse
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>>58849133
averse, you fucking idiot.
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>>58849049
yeah and this would also explain why old fucks wouldnt notice them.
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>>58846400
Aren't those teens now 30-something men with advanced degrees on government payrolls?
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>>58846459
>hacking = breaking into computer systems

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Hacker

>>58846400
>Why'd the computer hacking "scene" die out among western teenagers?
DRMs, horrible proprietary licenses and user agreements, distribution of binary blobs over distribution of code, anti-reverse engineering techniques in the guise of being for "security" etc.

Meanwhile, if you buy electronics in Eastern Europe, you still get technical manuals containing circuit designs and layouts etc.
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>>58850014
There's no difference under federal law, and they'll make an example out of you because omg hackers r scarry
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>>58850021
>There's no difference under federal law, and they'll make an example out of you because omg hackers r scarry
Hacking does not mean to break into computer systems you fucking idiot. It means to fiddle around with your computer and trying out different stuff. It's not illegal at all.
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>>58847050
Sure you are, you sloped faced slanty eyed yellow bellied faggot.
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Because western teenagers embraced nigger culture.
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>>58846444
It got harder and they made us all criminals for the slightest thing. Back in the early 90s we used to hack and fuck up cheese pizza sites. Not like they would complain to the police and we felt we were doing a service. Then we all got told we were destroying evidence so we were the criminal. The day after 9/11 there was a huge crack down under the disguise of stopping terrorism. I felt this first hand as I was part of one. Then many of us thought fuck it and left to do other stuff. Many groups disbanded a few days after.

I always say if there is a real cyberwar the west losses. Why, because America can just point at it's handful of uni experts, what did Trump say? Six of them. What does China do when asked where it's hacker army is at. It just points out the window.
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>>58850014
>https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Hacker
>Please don't spread this mistake. People who break security are “crackers.”

God, Stallman is an old shit.
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>>58846400
because now people are paranoid about security and hacking shit can land you in prison. I almost got expelled from my high school and had charge pressed against me because i created a shortcut to shutdown.exe in the sharing directories
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>>58850121
He is 100% right though, software engineers frequently refer to chunks of code as "hacks" when they do something non-standard and/or unorthodox.
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>>58850014
>https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Hacker
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>58846400
Porn
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>>58850121
"Cracker" is a racist term for white people though. Are we going to call white hats crackers and black hats niggers?
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>>58850134
Language changes over time, though.
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>>58850145
Beautiful
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>>58850134
hack refers to a shitty sloppy solution
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>>58846444

This, all the low-hanging fruit is gone now when it comes to exploits and security holes.

It's like how people who played in professional sports leagues a century ago would get wrecked by the average athlete playing today, the competition has evolved.
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>>58850224
Still, it refers to code and not actually breaking in to computer systems or other cybercrime or electronic fraud.
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>>58850270
you can hack together a hack that hacks security systems
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>>58850136
>gahnoo / lamp
Stallman is such a hack
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>>58846400
Define hacking. As a western teen I'm VERY interested in soft and hardware reversing, as well as general unintended exploiting of things whether electronic or not. Hacking isn't all cybersec, personally speaking hacking is a philosophy of analytics, modification, and creative engineering.
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>>58852546
Underrated posterino.
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>>58846400
I'm dog shit at logic and maths lol
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>>58846400
>Why'd the computer hacking "scene" die out among western teenagers?
NSA infiltrating every group.

There is your answer.
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>>58846400
The barrier to entry for using computers dropped significantly. Back in the 70s/80s/90s, it took some tinkering to get even consumer-level computers and electronics to do what you wanted it to do. This led to a generation of kids who were comfortable in the nuts and bolts of tech and enjoyed playing around with the guts.

Most kids now know how to use a computer, tablet, smart TV, etc very well but they don't know shit about how it actually works. Familiarity is not the same as technical skill. Much like driving a car in traffic for 2 hours a day does not teach you about how a car works, being surrounded by tech constantly does not teach you anything about how it works.
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>>58850136

>words to avoid: hacker
>"Join us now and share the software, you'll be free, HACKERS, you'll be free!" (free software song)


>>58853517

Some decades ago most people who used computers where also programmers, they fixed their own shit and knew more about how computers work.


>>58846444
>>58850257
>>58853517


Yes and no.
I would say back in the day it was "high risk, high reward". Today it's easier to play along.

There was a time when you could whistle in a telephone (blueboxing) or trick a dial-up service and steal money (BTX-Hack). On the other hand a couple of hackers just vanished or ""commited suicide"" when the cold war was still a thing. Maybe it's better to live in a comfy cell?

The differnce is, the system got used to hacking. Today it's way easier for the gov's to get your IP. They don't even need to hire a team of specialists, they just send a supoena to a provider and trace your IP.

There are not that much loopholes left, but also the tools got incredibly better. Nowadays every monkey can download Kali, push some buttons in some tools and have at least some minor success. Or think about LOIC. There was a time when such things where hard to find, nowadays it's everywhere. I mean of course they will find the scriddy and sue his ass off, but it's there.

And not only the tools, also the theory. You don't need to join a sekrit haxx0r club anymore, you just google it: it's all there. Back in
the day it was about getting as much informations as possible, today it's about sorting out and spending your time with the right things.


And that's the real reason:
Hacking is not an arcane thing anymore, where you figth for/against something. It's a part of the system, people don't hack big companies for fun anymore, they get money from bounties, they study "InfoSec" and help big companies to keep things straight. Whitehats are "the good guys" and practice "ethical hacking" because they help companies making even more money. Fucking traitors.
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>>58850021
Reminds me of that commercial I saw on TV advertising the Navy and it depicted evil anonymous threatening to "hack" everything.
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>>58850145
>>58852546
nice
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>>58853517
>Most kids now know how to use a computer, tablet, smart TV, etc very well but they don't know shit about how it actually works.
That always amazes me. They have no fucking clue. Zero.
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>>58853982
Is there any good books about the hacking scene back then, you seem to very knowledgeable anon.
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>>58846400
>Asks for a Miata
wew lad
absolute madman
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It's because everything is spoonfed to you now with google and ample documentation on everything. So when has everything spoonfed to him when it comes to computing and decides he wants to try his hand at exploitation.

He finds himself staring at a debugger and google isn't going to help him find what he's looking for in that assembly code. And it's nothing but him and the bare machine. It won't end well.
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>>58846400
Law enforcement is good in the west
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For me I lost interest after the legal ramifications could effect my life. I was suspended and threatened with being expelled in high school for "hacking" and that was enough to get me to stop.
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I am even afraid to search anything related to hacking.

I suppose I could start by reading mathematics and processor architectures tho
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>>58846400
but it didn't.
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>>58846400
"Hacking" was easier back before security became a thing. These days, it takes years of effort just to find one exploitable bug on popular systems. The real "hackers" learned that the money is in directly selling these exploits, not using them personally. So, hacking basically became an academic exercise that occasionally makes a profit by selling their results to the chinese and russians.
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>>58846400
read your pic.
loser justice system representatives got mad they couldn't prosecute and pushed stiff laws into plays detroying innovation and a source of consumer/corporation interaction
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