Infinality is dead. Fucking bohoomil vanished and destroyed his

That kerning on the Tools menu item
>good
nope

>>58809598
>Infinality is dead. Fucking bohoomil vanished and destroyed his arch-repository.
source? any official statement?

>R.I.P good font rendering in Linux.
I don't know about other distros but ubuntu always had patches to make font rendering look pretty good. Also:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FreeType-2.7-Rendering

>Linux


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHUHUHUHUHUHUEHUEHUEHUE

>>58809650

>source? any official statement?

He hasn't been active on the Arch Linux forums for months and his repo is gone.

It's dead.

If only it was open source so somebody else could pick up where he left off....

>>58809598
FreeType 2.7 implements his fixes. There is no need for his work anymore.

>>58809598
Loonix, not even once.

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>>58809598
https://gist.github.com/cryzed/e002e7057435f02cc7894b9e748c5671#creating-an-infinality-like-fontconfig-configuration

You're welcome. And it works perfect and looks amazing. Running on vanilla GNOME 3.

Pic related BTW.

>>58809598
Infinality has been deprecated for a while now.
Just use normal upstream freetype2. It's almost the same as infinality now.

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>>58809703
>being a living meme

>>58809699
>>58809727
>>58809730

Fuck that shit. Just downgrade to harfbuzz 1.3.4.

[:~] $ pacman -Ss harfbuzz
extra/harfbuzz 1.4.2-1 [installed: 1.3.4-1]
    OpenType text shaping engine

>>58809854
If that works for you, more power to you. Sometimes though I don't have to rely on a developer keeping up with packages, which you don't have to worry about with the link I provided.

You're just creating symbolic links to make the font rendering not suck, then you're installing font packs, and finally you're just modifiying a conf file to further make the fonts not suck.

If it's abandoned it's not going to break, because you're not changing the engine that renders the fonts, unlike with infinality and harfbuzz.

>>58809727
neat guide, thanks to the guy if he's around here.

>>58810032
Original guide is by cryzed from GitHub.

It's really easy to do because there's literally like 3 steps, and you know exactly what's going on because you're doing all the work. If you don't like it, you literally just delete the conf file you create and reboot and everything is restored.

Hopefully it works out as well for you as it does for me. I've installed it a few times on fresh installs and it seems to work flawlessly every time.

One note is when you make your local.conf file make sure you change the single quote to double quotes on the first line.

So instead of reading

<?xml version='1.0'?>

it should read

<?xml version="1.0"?>

. I think that was just a typo -- other than that, you should experience positive results and forget infinality even existed.

>>58809598
Holy fuck you dumb shit, freetype2 deprecated infinality a long time ago fucking mouth breather

>>58810128
It's not the same, they forked the infinality patchset and created an interpreter _based_ on it. Please inform yourself better before trying to dismiss people you breathing turd.

Ubuntu has decent font rendering by default

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Mac does not have this problem

>>58809650
they deleted the section for infinality from arch wiki very recently

>>58810220
Yeah Mac doesn't, it's way past it. Instead of trying to preserve the font's original form, it just goes full retard and muddles/hints so much until nothing the original shape is left -- just a blurry mess. Nice going.

>something as crucial as font rendering can be set back years purely because one guy went rogue
oy vey

>>58810245
jealousy doesn't look good on anyone!

>>58809650
>Long story short, FreeType 2.7.0 when released will provide for much better looking fonts on the Linux desktop! Fonts should now be more representative to how they appear on Windows.

I -ran- away from Windows because of its shitty font rendering. Why would I want that back? Do they want to push people to use macOS or something?

>>58810220
>/r9k/
You have worse things to worry about then font rendering.

Sort yourself out.

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>>58810257
I know I probably won't convince you, but these were my honest thoughts -- I'm not really jealous. I followed the guide linked in this thread and I ended up with pretty nice font rendering.

However I'm aware that your preferred font rendering is a matter of taste, so it's all good.

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>>58810290
No

>>58810220
You should try the Safari fork of uBlock Origin instead of using old uCuck by Chris.

https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/releases

>>58810333
Thanks anon. Nice digits dess

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freetype-freeworld just werks.

>>58810293
>pretty nice
>looks like shit windows tier
Yowza!
However, I'm aware that you may actually be partially blind so that's alright.

>>58810364
As mentioned before, your fonts look like shit mac tier, and I assume the same about you. So it's all good.

Really nice comeback though. Loved it.

>>58810372
>your fonts
I'm not even the same person though but that was a very cute attempt anon I'm proud!

>>58810382
feck.

>>58810326
You really should.

Realizing that /r9k/ was completly destroying my life was the first stop for improving myself.

That place can seriously destroy your will to live.

>>58810245
MacOS doesn't hint its fonts, retard. It renders them as close to print as possible.

>>58810418
Yes it does, on most screens with lower DPI, retard.

>>58809598
Good thing, Ubuntu has perfect font rendering OOTB.

>>58810434
take a screenshot of the thread please and show me.

>>58810201
Not him but you do realize that you are dismissing yourself with that statement, right? Or Archfags are born dumb?

>>58810429
It doesn't. In fact in your own post you complain how the fonts are blurry. That's because MacOS doesn't use hinting to change the shape of the fonts to fix the pixel grid. Hinting AVOIDS blurry fonts.

>>58810245
>Incoherent puzzle of words vaguely relating to font rendering
You are clueless man

For the mac fags claiming fonts don't look blurry: https://blog.codinghorror.com/font-rendering-respecting-the-pixel-grid/

>>58809598
Why is it so blurry?

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>>58810446

>>58810245
>until nothing the original shape is left
what did he mean by this?

>>58810620
Don't bother, it's a dumb archfag

>>58809598
Debian default looks better in that pic anyway.

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>>58810102
Is it normal to have to substitute Helvetica and Arial web fonts in fontconfig because they're so small, thin and faint on Chromium and Firefox (only after uninstalling Infinality)? Screenshot is an example of thinness. I followed the guide and your results are way clearer than mine. Mine are either too thin or too small and really faint/unclear.

>>58809727
You think that is good? Default fonts on Ubuntu and Windows 10 look far better than this.

>>58809598
https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/5r5ep8/make_your_arch_fonts_beautiful_easily/

check this

>>58809598
>destroyed his arch-repository.

why the fuck do people do this?

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>>58810220

;^)

>>58811515
that looks like poop

thin fonts are cancer

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Is there a "macos" preset in freetype like there was in infinality? I'm scared to touch my config now

>>58811515
That looks like complete shit dude. I'm a fan of bolder" fonts, but that's too bold.

>>58811613
MOOOOOOOOOOOOM... MY FONTS ARE BROKEN AGAIN, CALL OFF MY MEETING.

Infinality gave me constant headaches. It looks like a blurry piece of turd.

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>>58811613
that looks kinda blurry

>>58809598
The fuck is the difference here?

>>58810275
Just use any *buntu. All of them have great font rendering out of the box.

>>58811985
if you don't see it: fine, do nothing; be glad even.
once you see it, things tend to look shitty

t. font rendering autist

>>58809694
>/g/
>knowing how to compile and maintain a package
>knowing how to host a repository
>doing something besides shitty baits

You're in the wrong board, friend.

>Not using Freetype 2.7.1 & harfbuzz 1.4.2

OP IS A FAGGOT

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How do I improve my font rendering?

>>58809598
other than monospace fixed-width, freetype2 looks better.

infinality never worked well with GTK+3 applications anyhow.

https://gist.github.com/cryzed/e002e7057435f02cc7894b9e748c5671

>>58812294
install gentoo

>>58810275
to be honest, macOS font rendering sucks too.

it only looks good because most of their devices are +200ppi

I remember using a macbook at work on a 100ppi shit display and it was really terrible.

I switched to Mac OSX recently and the font rendering is beautiful out of the box.

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>>58809598
>R.I.P good font rendering in Linux.
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/freetype2-infinality/

Just came back from the cemetery and stronger and comfier than ever. :^)

>>58813896
It got updated. That's why they had to take it down I presume.

>>58813896

Op here. Thanks! Works with the latest harfbuzz.

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>>58809727
>screenshots
>w/text, literally to show font rendering
>jpg
MUH FUCKING SIDES

>>58810220
How about posting your stylesheet ??

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>>58809598
This is what Linux font rendering looks like.

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>>58814984
Nice try.

>>58815029
try the page I tried. it has diff fonts.

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>>58815043
I'm not on my computer right now.

>>58809675
I will never understand why people decide that they don't want to do something anymore, so they destroy it.

Seems fucking stupid

>>58815043
Oh, and by the way, look at this post:
>>58813896
/thread

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>>58815043
You do know that its not actually the page serving you fonts and that fontconfig selects fonts that YOU have installed right?

If you are getting fucked up looking fonts then get better fonts.

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>>58815057
>I'm not on my computer right now.
it's easy to render fonts well at font sizes 16+... like you're doing.

go down to 10 and 12 and then show me your font rendering. I bet it will look like shit.

Anyway, render this page.

http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2017-02-05/file-system-flame-graph.html

see pic to see what it looks like on my machine.

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>>58815127
Naw.

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>>58815117
4chan renders fine. I have issues with 1 out of 10 other pages I open.

>>58815141
yep, you're fucking retarded and have a very low IQ.

>>58815117
hideous

>>58815149
Your fontconfig settings just suck.
Stop using shitty fonts.

>>58815127
That screenshot wasn't even mine. I've saved it from someone here. If the thread doesn't die when I wake up, I'll update infinality and post screenshots.

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>>58815174
I still haven't seen your screencap of that page.

>>58815203
And you won't see one because I haven't visited that page and find it suspect that you are trying to convince people to visit it.

>>58815197
My comment still stands. It's fucking dead-easy to render fonts at 16+ sizes. They all look more-or-less okay because there's no hinting and subpixel rendering magic required to make them look good. It gets hard at 9,10,11 and 12 sizes.

>>58815226
LMAO
just fix your font settings instead of getting so assblasted making up retarded excuses

>>58815226
it's the top of HN you motherfucking shithead. I opened it and it looked like complete shit. I wondered why.

ANyway, welcome to my ignore list. Should have put you on it ages ago.

>>58815227
Oh, and by the way, I'm using a 110% zoom. Again, if the thread doesn't die when I wake up, I'll post screenshots.

>>58815234
It isn't an excuse, I won't visit that site because I'm suspicious.
>>58815239
Don't know or care what HN is.

>>58810293
That looks terrible man

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Still works on My Machine.

>>58809727
awful keming
awful disgusting color fringing
just awful

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>>58814984
why does your shit look so awful lol

>>58815412
>huge fonts
again, read the fucking thread you fat piece of shit.

>>58815412
Yours looks like trash too LMFAO.

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>>58815448
Faggot, they're an average size. Here you go - rendered at tiny fucking size so you poorfags with tiny screens can see it

>>58815477

blurry as fuck

enjoy your headache faggot

>>58815494
But I am not poor so they look awesome at a normal size on my 17" screen >>58815412

And the ``blurry'' image still looks a hundred times better than anyone else's scrot of that websight

>>58815477
even the comments say it looks like shit and the author confirms and says it looks like shit even on mobile.

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>>58815520
looks fine on my machine, maybe you and everyone else should learn to configure your systems.

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>>58815538
>>58815477
thats not the Calibri font... the font specified in CSS. you don't even have the right font installed you retard. go install it and then try again.

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>>58815644
>Using broken fonts and bitching about rendering.

>>58815644
I do have the Calibri font installed, but I don't use it due to it not being a very appealing typeface. I prefer Roboto Sans. Maybe if you knew how to configure your system, you could also remove typefaces you don't like.

Is there any way to get Linux fonts looking exactly like the way Windows 7 renders font? I was using the MS preset in Infinality until now and it's the closest I found on Linux but still not perfect.

>>58815719
Run Windows in a vm then use rdp + alternate shell option to run programs on your X from Windows.

>>58815057
what mp3 player?

>>58815793
wait a second, that's my desktop that some anon posted as his own!
The player is Cantata

>>58815644
why does every OS try so hard to be like OSX

>>58810245
>I don't know shit, but I will repeat the meme that some blogger spouted a time ago about the font rendering in OSX
Fun fact: The guy retracted of his statement later.

>>58810220
You're right, it has ugly font rendering without any way to fix it other than making the screen dpi higher.

>>58812454
>macOS font rendering sucks
Why?

>>58815862
Are you asking about technical details so we can find a practical solution to mac's ugly font rendering?

>>58815822
because it looks good

>>58815670
>I do have the Calibri font installed, but I don't use it due to it not being a very appealing typeface. I prefer Roboto Sans. Maybe if you knew how to configure your system, you could also remove typefaces you don't like.
No you don't. Fucking show me that page and show me your Colibri font rendering. I bet it will look as shit as mine does.

Your page looks OK because your browser just substituted the specified font with the default one since it can't find Colibri.

>>58815873
macOS has the top-tier font rendering unmatched by any OS. why? because they employ hundreds of font nerds and typographers. And Apple serves design community which means they demand that Apple have the best font rendering. if you deny these facts, you're retarded.

>>58815909
I hope you have something to backup your "facts".

>>58815813
thaanks :D

>>58815945
learn how to use a search engine.

>>58815954
I did, it says >>58815909
is lying.

>>58809703
tfw windows has absolute garbage font rendering

>>58812454
This
Try using 1440x900 screen space on the rmbp 13". It is blurry and horrible as shit

>>58816209
the japanese looks like absolute shit oh my god. Even with a fully Japanese OS. I don't know how Japs use it. Google noto with freetype rendering and apple japanese fonts look so much better it's night and day.

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>>58816209
>tfw windows has absolute garbage font rendering
Windows has garbage everything... from kernel to security to fonts to font rendering to shortcuts... etc. it's all fucking shit piled on top of other shit.

and worst of all, it's now adware and spyware even though you've paid for it.

unbelievable that retards actually still use this shit today.

>>58815873
I'm asking why do you think that the macOS font rendering sucks.
Specially knowing that there's isn't a "correct" to render fonts.

>>58816354
>le epic kernel security maymay xD
t. GNUcuck

Is there a shit like infinality for fedora or korora?
I don't want to use the neckbeard netinstall because reasons.

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>>58815895
da

>>58817192
>windows baby OS
kek

>>58817283
Arch...

>>58815363
>Not using KDE 5.9

>>58817694
>those scrollbars
Archdows... sure thing kiddo. also, show me your whatfont output for that text.

>>58812091
We have /g/ people who got TempleOS on the Internet cuck laddie, we're doing OK.

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>>58817780

>>58817851
>huge font size again
at least read the fucking thread. set it to normal font size.

>>58817890
It's on 16px (default) and 6px min.

>>58810464
Apple indeed does the hinting for latin fonts. By hinting means vertical autohint. But Core Text's ( macOS font rendering engine) autohint is way more silghtly than FreeType one.

>>58812033
not sure what the difference is, but everything on the left looks a bit bolder and like fxaa was applied to the whole screen while the right is thinner and less blurred the fuck out.

>>58809727

this, just edit /etc/profile.d/freetype2.sh and

export FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="truetype:interpreter-version=38"

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>>58814984
I don't understand font rendering. Are mine okay, or nay?

>>58816947

No. You deserve bad font rendering for bending the knee to Lennart.

>>58810549
>Dave Shea thinks the pixel grid will be moot once high resolution displays become ubiquitious. I wholeheartedly agree, although I'm unsure when exactly that will be. The history of display resolution increases have been quite modest so far. Ten years ago I was using a single 17" 1024x768 display; now I'm using three 20" 1600x1200 displays. So you'll forgive me if I'm not overly optimistic about this theoretical jump from 100 DPI to 200 DPI.

Kys

>>58809727
I did this some time ago, noticed almost no differences, only my terminal font seems to be affected.

Feels good to be only on main repos now. I hope they incorporate whatever infinality did into official repos soon now that it's dead and obsolete.

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>>58814984
Here it is. Looks fine on my end.

>>58820848
By the way, I'm:
>>58815245

>>58815813
Does it look like that out of the box with that particular KDE theme? Not the same anon by the way.

>>58809598
the patches have been merged into normal fontconfig for years.

>>58815058
you may not believe it, but running a website (where the repo was located) costs money.

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>use osx
>out of the box it looks great, runs smoothly, behaves sensibly, and is highly convenient and pretty well thought out for the most part
>all the tweaks I want can be made in a couple of minutes by one cheap third party GUI tool
>read about Linux desktop users going to great pains of library patching and manual configuration just to make fonts look tolerable
Why do you people do this to yourselves? Keep Linux for servers and embedded devices, and for your desktop, use an OS that was actually designed for the task.

>>58822162
We're not going through any pains, just fun

>>58822210
Yes, I also enjoy typing
>export FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="truetype:interpreter-version=38"
into endless config files. Having shitty fonts and having to manually fix them is such a fun character building experience.

>>58822162
>use osx
how can you even post here with so many dicks up your ass?

since way back apple has focused on "look&feel" stuff but it simply just sucks for any productive task. if you think typing text is a productive task of a computer then you also think a good use for a car is a livingroom replacement

>>58822240
I didn't have to do any of that.

Maybe you just don't know what you're doing. Another anon posted a guide in the beginning of the thread.

So you're gonna have to edit a config file once every half year, big deal?

>>58820903
Internet isn't free? What????

>>58810257
People like you, who call legitimate criticism jealousy, are the cancer that prevents Apple from truly becoming a good company.
Instead of Apple learning from its mistakes, retards like you only encourage them to fuck up more and milk you for your money.