Why don't we have a computer touch screen keyboard or mouse

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

Why the fuck we need to improve perfection?
Touchscreen keyboards doesn't have sufficient feedback considering their use.

>>58780436
Do not even joke like that because you can not be sure if marketing faggots are not reading this.

Is it not enough that they killed fucking physical keyboard in smartphones?

Anon, do you hate yourself?

>>58780451
>sufficient feedback
don't they vibrate when you press them?

>>58780436
A touch screen keyboard is a fucking awful idea. It provides fuck all improvement over a regular keyboard and removes crucial tactile feedback. If you really want one get a tablet and place it on your desk, try typing on it without looking. You'll realize why nobody does it pretty quick.

On the mouse front I don't know if they still do it but Apple's Magic Mouse used to have a touch screen on it's surface in place of a scroll wheel, it was actually very good, particularly because it provided any direction scrolling and gestures.

>>58780436
Because will be fucking uncomfortable hit a flat surface.

>>58780464
vibration isn't sufficent. Downward motions also require a traver before reach the activation. That's, for example, why the macbook pro 2016 keyboard feels awkward even considering that also feels mechanical.

>>58780445
>>58780451
Phones were perfectly fine, then smartphones came in and now we can't live without them.
Point being, there's always room for improvement

Please don't respond to bad bait
Google it

>>58780482
I'd like a mouse like that. Does it also offer pinch to zoom web pages, spreadsheets, etc.?

>>58780488
Exactly, with normal keyboards you have a lot of control of what you're touching

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>>58780482
>touch screen keyboard is a fucking awful idea


Wrong. It would be awesome

Computer Touchscreen Keyboards would just be much less effective than traditional ones. It would be quite Hard always to Hit the right Buttons. Maybe it would even be unhealthy for your Fingers... to Put in in a nutshell...it's a Bad Idea

The only thing that could improve could be the massive adoption of Dvorak or other layouts that account the most used words in the language

>>58780491
Because they provided significant additional functionality over the thing they replaced. A touch screen keyboard provides... Umm... Easy layout modification? I guess?

>>58780508
>Wrong
cool argument dude

>>58780504
I think so, it's been years since I used it. It definitely had two finger scroll so I can't see why it wouldn't have pinch. Sadly it was Bluetooth so it was a pain in the ass to make it work on Windows, you had to reconnect it every time to started it up.

>>58780504
Yes, and click by mistake things all the time. Normal mouse's lets you rest your palm on it

>>58780528
You could rest your hand on it just fine, it wasn't oversensitive.

>>58780436
>physical keyboard
>can press a key that your finger is already on
>doesn't matter whether your hands are less than perfectly clean
>don't have to look down at it to see where the keys are

Touch keyboards BTFO

>>58780453
>Is it not enough that they killed fucking physical keyboard in smartphones?
>Having a goyphone

good goy

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>>58780527
It provides a lot actually. You could edit the keys anyway you want, you could have easy access to any app in your computer and it is easier to type in them. You think its bad because you haven't tried

>>58780508
When you type on a physical keyboard you use more than 1 finger at the time, so it's very likely for the other fingers to touch the other keys, the point is that they don't activate them. Using more than 1finger per hand with a touchscreen keyboard would require the accuracy and the care of a surgical operation, and just make you type slower

>>58780445
This

>>58780581
>it is easier to type in them.
Horseshit.

>You think its bad because you haven't tried
I have tried, I have a surface and I was so infuriated by the touch input that I went out and bought the accessory keyboard so I wouldn't have to tolerate it any longer.

>You could edit the keys anyway you want
I cannot fathom why I would want to do this, the current keyboard is pretty close to just being a grid of buttons and changing the layout would necessarily involve adapting to a new layout. I have never been doing something and thought to myself, "Gee, I wish I could change the key layout right now, it would really improve my experience/increase my productivity".

> you could have easy access to any app in your computer
...But I already can? Binding a function key or other little used key to an application is child's play.

>>58780436
It'd be nice in the way that they could potentially be highly customizable, but I can't imagine people would be very happy about the lack of key ridges and I'm sure input/output delay would be common too.

>>58780436
Because it's garbage. The only thing that pisses me off on smartphones is the fucking touch screen keyboard. It's far too unreliable and buggy.

Besides I touch type so I actually need to feel the keys.

>>58780581
And you wouldn't be able to type without looking anymore...

>>58780436
Just imagine a touchscreen piano... We can't really locate where the buttons are without looking.

>>58780699
I think I would rather kys myself than play on something like that.

>>58780699
>>58780781
I have the experiencie of playing a touchscreen piano.
I wanted to kill myself.

>>58780436
Because it would be stupidly expensive as well as uncomfortable.

Repeatedly slamming the tips of your fingers into a completely unyielding surface is not a good time not to mention the inherent decrease in accuracy that you would get by removing physical keys

>>58780508
Are you retarded or have you really never used a keyboard outside of an iThing?

>>58780436
I bet all the fucking retards here wanting a touch keyboard can't even reach 90 WPM.

>>58780436
progress for progress' sake isn't progress at all, neither is it a law of technology, /g/ seems to have a hard time understanding that all progress ultimately has an endgame and things can't change with tangible benefits endlessly

smartphone virtual keyboards are bad enough and are barely functional without predictive algorithms, why would we want that expensive garbage on a desktop where the screen real estate constraints that made it a thing in mobile devices is not a problem?

>>58780436
>No physical bump on F and J
>No feel for individual buttons

How am i supposed to use that thing? The point of a keyboard is to be able to write without looking down on it.

>>58780508
is that picture supposed to convince me?

>>58780581
How would it be better to type if you don't have tactile feedback and you probably wouldn't be able to touch many buttons at the same time? I can only imagine it as being awkward and slower to type with.
Besides, I think it would consume way more energy than regular keyboards and would be way easier to break.

They would be easier to clean tho.

>/g/ is afraid of new tech

Wow this is a new low

>>58781205
>/g/ and the rest of the world doesn't like my retarded idea

wow

>>58780436
The next desktop innovation is in active development. VR desktop experiences are the future. Imagine no physical screens each window a screen in your actual space.

>>58780581
>you could have easy access to any app in your computer and it is easier to type in them
>he doesn't have autohotkey
kek pleb

>>58780436
The following is just ONE reason why a touch screen keyboard is a bad idea

>Playing vidya
>unable to rest your fingers on WASD
>instant carpal tunnel syndrome

>>58780491
Typing on a touchscreen is absolutely no improvement over physical keyboards. Quite the opposite actually. But muh big screen

>>58781260
>Playing vidya

Touch screen keyboards would be for adults, not children

>>58781279
t. weeb

>>58780436
Because it would hurt like hell after typing for a hile

>>58780436
I prefer death

>>58781279
I feel sad for you because you can't enjoy vidya.
It can be pretty relaxing after a long workday.

Because touch interfaces suck

>>58780504
Check out the Microsoft Arc Touch.

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The future is now.

>>58781350
Except for the retarded emoji bar and the retarded low travel that keyboard has pretty good switches.

>>58780436
>Seems like keyboards and mouses haven't progressed in 15 years
Despite what /v/ says decent wireless mouse/keyboards are now just as good as wired.

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>>58781309
this triggers me almost as badly as pic related

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>>58781350
>>58781309
>>58780581
>>58780508
>>58780436
>not having superior buckling spring keyboard
sad

>>58781464
>tripfag
sad

>>58780436
This has been tried at least 6 times in the past and has failed for the same reasons too

you can't work quickly on these
you can't type competently on these without looking while you type
one small crack on the screen and the whole things useless
no business or company will buy 1 of these $100+ non productive gimmicks when they can buy 20 fully functional keyboards
and most importantly, these require 3rd party drivers and will always be ever so slightly less responsive then a $5 keyboard, the one thing they'd expect from a wired keyboard

>>58781464
>no Super modifier.
I'd post the le garbage man but I deleted by meme folder.

Fuck touch typing on something like that.

The problem with display keyboards is that they are fucking uncomfortable since you can't leave your fingers on them and they have 0 feedback (no I don't use a mechanical keyboard mine is a cheap rubber dome one from Walmart) ,they slide so you will often mistype and they also get cold.

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it would be great to learn languages though, but there is a better, productive (and expensive) way to achieve changing buttons and you don't need touch keyboards for that.

>>58780445
The mouse is a horrible device though.

>>58780453
This.
Bring back slide out keyboards!

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WHAT IF

WHAT IF

WE MAKE A PHYSICAL KEYBOARD, BUT EVERY KEY IS A SMALL TOUCH SCREEN

MIND BLOWN

>>58780436
muh clickey keys

>>58781925
Trackballs 4 lyfe yo!

>>58781951
Easy with the memes Jeremy

>>58780659
>he speaks only one language
jejeje ooh la la 笑

>>58780436
Touchscreen mouse? So you mean like touchpad?

>>58783040
No I mean a screen touchpad

Lots of people don't like it but I'm a fan of butterfly switches in the new MacBook Pros. Nice and clicky.

A touchscreen keyboard is a fucking awful idea. The idea of being able to change the layout is not, however.

Once technology advances enough to make this >>58781887 economical, or is capable of forming physical keys with feedback on a grid-like screen, that would be wonderful.

>>58782317
>item A is bad
>item B is better than item A
Those are different statements, anon.

>>58783113
so a tablet?

I feel like I would have to look at the keyboard every time I brought my hands to it
at least with physical keys, I can jus place my hands down and know what keys I'm touching

>>58780436
Are you saying RGB isn't enough?

because what we have now is fine and there is no need to change it

>>58781350

You need a license to go outdoor now?

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Okay guys
What if we made one
With haptic feedback
Like HD rumble
Would that make it better?

>>58784422
no go fuck yourself its perfect the way it is

>>58781350
I got the one without the touch bar because I thought it was stupid.

What if we made the touchscreen bendable and raised sections of it with switches underneath?

>>58784443
no no changes go away

>>58780527
Swype input nigga

>>58781925
how would you improve it? I don't think there's a better option and I don't see what's wrong with it

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what world are you living in, OP

>>58781464
Kill yourself fascist

>>58781464
>buckling spring keyboard
>LEDs
>purple ones at that
>Tripfag
>MAGA hat
all that's left is the anime

kill yourself

>>58784830
The Wiemar Republic called, they want their violent communist mobs back.

>having to extend your arm over your desk to touch the screen.

this is litterally what you're asking for, lot of AiO pc had those touch screen and they were dead useless.

>>58784827
Came here to post this. It's been tried several times, the yoga book is only the latest attempt. I've tried it in store, it's definitely way better than an on screen keyboard but it's nowhere near a proper keyboard. I'll stick with the old fashioned way, thank you very much.

>>58781400
>be based bro
>get tired of wearing glasses due to how uncomfortable they are on your ears and nose
>want to look cool with a cap
>this somehow triggers autistic fags deeply

The product you all crave already exists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvG_rTTmvmg

>>58781400
Wearing your hat backwards protects your neck from the sun. Be sure to remember that when you finally venture out of your cave.

>>58780436
If it aint broke, dont fix it. Why would you want a keyboard on which you cannot rest your hand?

>>58785100
>not ortholinear
>can't change the key layout
>expensive as all fuck
nty

>>58781951
It would be awesome if it had tactile feedback your regular keyboard has. Also
>watching porn on a keyboard

No tactile feedback
No key shape

>>58780436
>Why don't we have a computer touch screen keyboard or mouse yet?

Because people use those for work.

>>58781309
maybe his keyboard got fucked?
I have a touchscreen laptop and had to use it like in pic for 3 days while i bought a replacement.

ITT butthurt mech keyboard users

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>>58780436
oh boy, now it'll be just like typing on my phone all the time

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>>58786116
cmon now
you've already gotten so many (you)'s with this bullshit

>>58786306
is that a man with man boobs?

>>58780436
>mouses

>>58786532
micen

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I can see it already.

Our keyboards used to be good, simple machines. They felt natural to the touch, afforded typing without looking at the fucking keys, had a simple well-defined function, were cheap to implement, their functioning was well-understood and device drivers were plentiful. The keyboard never failed you even once.

Now it will probably run an embedded operating system that can BSOD and will probably be connected to the internet as an idiotic Internet of Things device so that 'u can typez anywherez' or some equally retarded notion and is likely to have become a literal component of a botnet because nobody gives a fuck about securing IoT and you'll never ever notice unless you monitor your keyboard's network traffic 24/7 and you probably can't fix even if you find out.

>>58781925
why?

>>58786630
such is the way of all technology
eventually it'll get bad enough that people will realize how much better we had it as nomadic hunter-gatherers

>>58786630
Ill keep my model m as long as I live

>>58780436
Cheaper material cost for mass production, low ROF, simple functionality.

>>58786671
Good luck faggot. One day they'll simply phase out whatever connector that shit uses, whether USB or PS/2. One day, you'll simply have no option but the most dumbed down hardware possible.

I think it's amazing how there's open source software but pretty much zero free hardware. It's already happening: all the computing just isn't happening in YOUR hardware anymore, it's being moved to the "cloud", where people can actually control things.

How long until the only computers available to the general public are bullshit iDevices? How long until programming a computer will only be doable using specialized workstations that require a professional Software Writer/Developer/Coder license to purchase and own? Free software doesn't count for shit if there's no machine to actually run it on.

>>58786630
>keyboards become smartphone-like devices that you carry with you everywhere and use to interface with various embedded systems or servers or whatever
>when you get home you put it down on its wireless charging station as it automatically connects to your desktop
>meanwhile nobody is making dockable laptops anymore

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>>58780436
Because laser keyboards are better

>>58786741
>tfw this is inevitable but Blackberry has left the hardware market so there'll never be a good keyboard ever again

>>58781279
but all of you pretend professionals tend to use mechanical keyboards anyway

or are you one of those faggots that just sits on his ass and consumes western media all day long but thinks he's better or more productive?

Fingerprints

>>58786774
Until it draws each line separately instead of projecting through a lens, it's garbage.

>>58784785
You don't need that shit if you're using all your fingers to type. It's only helpful for phones because people only use their thumbs to type on them.

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Ok. Touchscreen keyboards are dumb but what about holographic keyboards?

>>58780436
>mouses

>>58787219
Having to hold my arms out in front of me for the duration of an 8 hour workday sounds like tons of fun.

>>58788084
think of the rotator cuff gainz though

>single point of failure
>not able to be used by people with physical disabilities
Yeah. Seems like a great idea. Just pop a touchscreen on everything.

>>58780581
You can already fucking do that with a tablet holy shit

>>58788112
kek