>potent >cheap >doesn't rape your electricity bill

>>58732154
the fact that it isnt a 1060

>>58732154
>What's not to love about the 1050 Ti?
the performance

that for $30 more you can get an rx 470

>>58732154
>potent
only if you try shoving it up your ass

>>58732154
>>doesn't rape your electricity bill
You must be live in one of THOSE countries
Do you have a limited internet connection too?

>>58732342
>for x more you can get y card
Literally what every fucking person says.

>hey guys, I have $120 and I need a card-
>HURR DURR SAVE MORE UNTIL YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO BUY A 1080 XDD

Fuck off.

>>58732154
>potent
Sorry, I don't like my GPU's reproducing.

Protip: Nvidia's 1000 generation is actually less power efficient than AMD's RX 400 series.

>>58732409
Why should I get an rx 460 over the 1050 ti?

>>58732431
Is there a reason why you shouldn't?

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>>58732409
71watts vs 144watts
It's not even remotely close.

>>58732566
Note the gtx1080 using almost identical wattage of the rx480.
The 1080 is twice as fast.

>>58732154
It's merely ok performance wise. A 470 would be the sweet spot and a 480/1060 as the most money you should be spending on a fucking GPU unless you're rich or enjoy wasting money on high end.

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>>58732445

>>58732566
See that RX 460 60 Watt performance?

>>58732606
75w is the max TDP for both the 1050 and 460.
If the 460 is consuming less watts, it's because it's slower than the 1050.

>>58732154
>
>doesn't rape your electricity bill

t.third worlder

>>58732154
OP doesn't have cheap electricity. SAD! Nuclear power all the way baby.

>>58732856
actually 1st worlders are the one who whine about electricity
t. 2nd worlder
also this >>58732912 cons of being ecocucks
nuclear power safer than everything non nuclear

Are the 1070 & 1080 that expensive still? hm idk

anon, I know you want to save some cash but you kinda can't do that too much with video cards. they know you PC users need a good one and basically checkmate us all as a result.

>>58732566
The sad thing is that a well binned Polaris 480 can match the efficiency of the 1060, and even surpass it if undervolted.
The problem is that most of the good Polaris chips went into MacBooks (460) and server applications (480).
AMD literally used bottom of the barrel Chips for most desktop GPUs.

>>58732945
probably cause we're the only ones with electricity

also with solar panels, I don't pay jack shit

What is this low tier card Ti-version -meme?
Who would need an option between 1050 and 1060?

>>58732309

fpbp

>>58733086
>I don't pay jack shit
Except for the price of panels and their installation, right? And you'll have to change them in 20 years.

>>58733099
non Ti 50 series is a complete cuckery, just name it GT 1050 or whatever, it's never worth a buy

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>>58732154
>What's not to love about the 1050 Ti?
Its nor RX 470.

If you think prices in USA are fucked because you can get something 20% faster for $20 more all the way up to 1060/480 just wait till I tell you about UK.

With the exception of 1050 Ti being 20-30 quid cheaper for 180 quid I can buy non ref mini 1060 and any non ref 470, then for 5 to 10 quid more I can buy a ref 480 4gb. I honestly don't know which one to get for my dad.

>>58732409
On paper when we talk about chipsets? yes.
But you don't account for the fact that AMD had to factory oc 480RX to the point where some reference cards were crashing on stock clocks just so they could compete with stock 1060. Polaris is another design failure.

What's more wise for a budget oriented cuck? an i5 with 1050 ti or g4560 and 480rx/1060? I've heard that with faster ram speeds (2133 for Sky/2400 for Kaby) the cpu bottleneck isn't really visible.

>>58733080
>Polaris 480 can match the efficiency of the 1060, and even surpass it if undervolted
No, it can't, not even remotely. GTX 1060 can be undervolted too, resulting in 75-80 W peak power consumption.

>>58733846
This

>>58733929
the pentium and a better card

>>58732154
>power bill
Electricity's 10¢/kWh, why the fuck would I give a damn?

>>58732154
470 is cheaper and faster.

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Nice bait OP. GET REKT GREENS <------ lmao that was a dank meme i r89 r9001 390/3.5gb of v for vendetta ram, novidiots be like do a 1080 and walk awayy lmao, 144 wayy sli novideo grillforce gtx 480 clocked at 3.5hz 1080p 3.5 fps gimpworks edition, human eye can see only 3/5 ram anyways, nivea water boiler titanal xp at 3.5p, envidia fryforce shitan rascal 1080shiTi at 87.5% GTX(GetTheXtinguisher) (pisscal xp malware experience thermi burning sillayy bridges edition) + krappy fake $hilltel gore i$emen (cooler not included in a box) end of life edition at 0.90 GHz. 8GiB? What do you need 4GiB for? I'm giving you 3.5GiB! mumble mumble 3.5!?!?!? mumble mumble mumble 390?!?!?!

Rx 470

What's the AMD equivalent of a 980 in performance? I don't care about power consumption.

Bought a 1050 Ti for an eGPU setup but ran into driver problems so I purchased a used 970 instead. It does OK on most of the games I play but it struggles on Watch Dogs 2.

>>58734208
Since the recent driver update the RX 480 is like 95% of 980.

>>58734208
480.

>>58734239

Oops, meant to say I purchased a 960, not 970.

Thanks

>>58734258
Buying anything but 470 4Gb if youre poor is a waste of money.

>>58732154
>it's not rx460

>>58733343
>not making a home made windmill

>>58732381
i never thought i would find someone worse than me at arguing on this board

thank you, anon, for encouraging me!

I've been seriously eyeballing that card from the OP

>>58734208
>eGPU
>960

What enclosure did you get? That GPU is half of the enclosure in terms of cost.

>>58732309

can I pair the 1060 with my 8350 or will it bottleneck?

>>58733086
>solar panels

Enjoy your space aids

>>58734909
Yes.

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Because the Rx 470 exists

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It's barely been half a year and rx480 already destroys the 1060. even 470 beats it lmao.

the best part? novidya is just gonna keep gimping it

>>58732566
>GTX 1050ti: 1.9 TFLOPS FP32
>Rx 470: 3.8 TFLOPS FP32
0/10 bait

At worst pascal and polaris have around the same real world efficiency.

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>>58735037
Man, they're really raping nvidia with these driver updates. Never thought I'd see the day...

brb going to sell my gtx 960 and go buy an rx 480

>>58734909
You need at least i7 7700k for that

>>58733846
>>58734003
But the 470 isn't the 1060.

The 1050 equivalent is the 460

>>58734050
ONE GAME

>>58735243
the 470 is above the 1060 >>58735037

>>58735376
>>58735002

>>58734909
use dx12 i get 15 mors fps witha rx 480 8gb and a fx 6350 at 4.3 ghz

>>58734208
RX 480 is extremely close to it in performance and has lower power consumption
Fury (x) outperforms it by quite the margin but uses a fuckton of power
your choice

>>58735386
don't worry the next driver """update""" will fix it

>>58732154
>>potent
???

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>>58732154
You must be poor as shit to be worry about your computer electric consumption OP. But meh, I don't care... The card is great but I prefer 1060 more and I don't even play video games.

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>>58735323
>hurrr cherry pickiing
Enjoy your gimped "hardware".

>le "game over 60fps" meme
>le "144hz monitor" meme

>>58735638
From the looks of the the extra bucks are no worth it to get a 480 over a 470

>>58733901
>the nvidia shill who can't write RX480
(You)

When is pascal going to be replaced? 2 years?

>>58735830
Probably late 2017 or mid 2018

AMD finally WON. Next-gen consoles are also all using their chips.

>>58735889
Only the PS4 and Xboner

How well does the 1050ti play with wayland? I think they recently added egl support, so it would work with nvidia gpus, but how well?

>>58735889
>>58735895
The Switch is Nintendo's first console to not use ATI/AMD graphics since the N64

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I'm running a gigabyte 1060 6gb I got for 200usd
Thinking of buying the 4690k and am upgrading from an i3 4150
How much can I oc the new i5, and will it bottleneck my GPU?
Any other CPU reccomendations? Not looking to upgrade mbo or ram, so devil's canyon line.
Additionally my Mobo resets to current day/2085 every time I power it off.
That's the Mobo battery right?
Pic obviously not related

>>58735756
I agree. Non-ref 470 is almost indistinguishable from ref 480. 8GiB is a meme even for 1440p. +Some sales in US offers 470 for 115-150 bucks.

But 480 is much better for mining rigs.

>>58735927
>11511 °C
made meh smile
irl

>>58734825

No enclosure, just an EXP GDC BEAST ($35). The 960 is a 4GB mini that I paid $150 for used on eBay.

>>58734243
>>58735434
>>58734208

Ok, I have Sapphire NITRO+ 480 4GB in my Amazon cart. It's only $210 right now and there's a $15 rebate. So it's either $195 for this or like $250 for a used 980.

Any objections before I complete the order?

I hate intel (CPU) the dirty tricks they pulled back in the day to corner the market and push AMD out of manufacturing chips has soured me to them. They make a good GPU though.

>>58735167
>>58734973

I have researched it, It shouldn't be a problem since I almost never go past 1080p gaymen, but I do like to occasionally edit video compilations and am interested in VR.

I'm thinking might just be better to get better ram, a 1060 and a 8350 for my existing setup and wait and see how Zen pans out.
>>58735388
will consider it

its low video memory and the fact its slower than my 780

>>58736434
>4gb

>>58732154
>>potent
Lol, it's a literal piece of shit.

>>58736505

This is for a bandwidth limited eGPU setup and I only play at 1080. My 960 barely goes over 3GB in the games I play.

>>58736608
Get RX 470 4Gb then. Thats it if the price difference is normal.

>>58732381
>spend 120 now on a shitty product and have to upgrade in 2-3 years
>spend 150 now on a good product and dont have to upgrade for 4+ years
money spent per year decreases significantly if you get a product with good performance/$ ratio from the start.

470 is X% more expensive, but you get far more % performance increase over a 1050

>>58736648

The NITRO+ 470 is actually $3 more than the 480 right now. The regular NITRO 470 is $180. I'd rather pay $195 for the NITRO+ 480. $15 is nothing to cry about.

>>58736811
What about other brands 470?

>>58736825

Sapphire is the cheapest on Amazon. I don't have any clue which brands are top tier or not. This is the first time I've messed with desktop hardware in a decade.

8GB 480's start at about $230 (XFX, VisionTek, PNY, PowerColor, Gigabyte, Sapphire).

>>58736825

Durr... you said 470. Seems like $180 is the lowest on Amazon anyway.

>>58736948
Newegg has them for 155 inc rebate.

>>58732566
>2017
>still using Furmark
kys

>>58737027

Thanks. There's actually an MSI 480 for $140 after rebate. I just don't want to buy a 470 and then wish I just spent a little more for the 480. I'm not poor, just frugal to a fault (it usually bites me in the ass).

>>58737130

Fuck.. I meant MSI 470

>>58736548
>if it's not a 1080 then it's shit!

>>58736811

Get the 480.

Though from what I know the only significant difference between Nitro and Nitro+ is that the + has leds

>>58737130
Idunno, man. If youre going for 480 then go for 8Gb version. There is two options. 470 4Gb = best value to performance for 1080p. Then there is 480 8Gb = better for 1440p, but within 10% performance from 470 most of the time. From all of the test ive seen 480 offers basically the same performance as 470 not counting the cases when 8Gb matters (which is very rare).

>>58737330
It's shit for the price.

>>58737791
Name a better card for that price.

Half of you Virgins still stay with mommy and don't pay the bills anyway.

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Tech illiterate here.
How much impact is 2GB vs 4GB? What does vram do for games besides the textures and shit?

Are GTexel/s important?

>>58738027
Less than 4Gb is stupid. Even for htpc media station 4Gb is standard nowadays. RX 470 has they best price/performance ratio.

>>58734050
fuck man im crying right now holy kek, need more pastas like these

>>58737810
30 bucks more and you'll get an rx 470.

>>58738547
>>58732381

When's AMD launching their 1070 and 1080 equivalents

>>58738556
You'll only have to forgo like seven burgers and you'll get a much better card in the end.

>>58738027
>What does vram do for games besides the textures and shit?
Resolution. More pixels to render=more VRAM

With 2 gb you can forget about playing anything higher than 1080p

for 40$ less you can get a 460 that fits the same 1080p sweet spot

for about 20$ less you can get one of the really nice 460's, like the 4gb sapphire nitro oc model, that can even perform better than some of the 1050ti's

>>58738662
even 2gb can be a struggle for 1080p in some games

gta V can eat up to 3.5gb on max 1080p
having to turn stuff down on my 280x to save vram was a saddening moment

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>>58732154
>tfw bought a 1050ti and it's overkill for me
The most demanding game i play is csgo anyway and it runs on Linux, don't even care about modern games anymore.

>>58732154
the performance, heck even the 1080 isnt enough
I need something with like 10x the 1080 oomph to be satisfied

>>58738822
Buy 10 1080s, dummy.

>>58734909
>AMD nigger
Get a i7 asap

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>Since version 337.88, Nvidia drivers on Windows check if an hypervisor is running and fail if it detects one

>>58738826
>Multi GPUs nigger detected
I need that oomph on a single GPU, multi gpu is not as good a single gpu with the same performance

It gets raped by a RX470. I've seen RX480 4GB at $150 on slickdeals too. The only good card Pascal gave us was the 1060, but not even a year later, it has aged like milk. The 1070 is ok I guess if you really wanted 980Ti performance for some reason. The high end Pascal is too expensive, it should be much cheaper. AMD being slow as fuck and Nvidia being greddy gooks fucked everyone up. Even then, the stupid Apple consumer base still bought those cards since muh performance, muh nvidia. Fuck everything.

>>58738547
Cheapest 1050 ti I can get is $160
Cheapest 470 I can get is $250
Both new.

So no.

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>>58735046
>TFLOPS
you must be one of those people that actually installed gentoo

>>58735911
Funny how they didn't wait and went ahead with Maxlel. I like the concept of the Switch, but it's underpowered as fuck, overpriced, has shit battery life for a >portable system, and it will eventually get a refresh. I don't want them to crash and burn since I want to play Zelda and Fire Emblem, but holy shit they would deserve it.

>>58738905
What, why?

>>58738997
Where the fuck you live?

>>58739033
Did they really confirm Maxwell?
But why

>>58738905
what is a hypervisor and why would it not be running

>>58738905
What does this mean? No GPU passthrough?

Is Pascal successor going to use 10nm on the GTX 11 series?

>>58739541
I don't think so. I think they're going 14nm with finally something new architecture-wise. I'm hoping for another Fermi, but I think Vega might get the Fermi label first.

So, I'm using kabylake pentium. Should I go:
rx460
1050
1050ti
rx470
1060

I just wanna save mony, play on a 1280x1024 @ 75h monitor full settings with maybe option to upgrade to 1080p

>>58739675
>play on a 1280x1024
Nigga just go 1080p.

Since the kaby pentium has 4 threads, going with a 470 should be fine.

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>>58732154
Abel, is that you?

>>58739715
got the monitor for $15 so I'm not upgrading for a while :^)

But yeah, that's what I was thinking. Buying anything below 470 is kind of wasting money given the big performance jump between 1050ti -> 470

>>58732154
Fuori dal cazzo e vai di amd

>>58739675
470. Make sure to get a good one. I have Powercolor Red Devil and its great.

>>58739816
If I were to get a 470 over the 1050 ti, it would be an ASUS, and I heard they're shit.
I trust Gigabyte more.

>>58739884
Yeah, ASUS 470 is shit. I heard good things about MSI. Gigabyte might be good too.

>>58739884
>>58739896

MSI, XFX and Sapphire are the top choices

>>58739362
Yes. It can be worked around though but this shows that NVidia is reluctant to give the freedom of virtualization and nvidia users can only hope that they don't go any further with this.

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I'm looking to gift this to my brother.
I might wait for Zen since they might surprise with cheap true quad cores.
The SSD is a must no matter what you say, he can always buy a hard drive for extra storage.
This RX 470 is expensive, but I can wait for a special. I've seen RX480s for cheaper.
Expensive peripherals are not needed, he can always upgrade later.
Monitor isn't needed as well since he has a TV, again can always upgrade later.

Any suggestions?

>>58739926
XFX is kinda shitty desu.

>>58739958
>pentium
Why do you hate him?

Tech illitarate here trying to learn the basics, do the RX470 + Haswell i5 4590 work well together?

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>>58732599
>GPU Boss

>>58740001
alright, what's the best GPU comparison site then?

>>58739973
It's cheap as fuck and has hyperthreading now. He doesn't know shit about overclocking as well. Also note that I said I might wait for Zen.

>>58739958
Get G4560 instead.

>>58740012
Well, good. Overclocking is a meme that just consumes more power and kills your components faster. I don't know why people do it.

>>58740046
>kills your components faster
No its not. Maybe if youre retarded.
>>58739958
Get 1x 8Gb RAM

Anyway just use logicalincrements.

>>58740046
3570k @ 4.4GHz ever since it released now, it shows no signs of stopping.

>>58740069
>Anyway just use logicalincrements.
Falcon can fuck right off.

>>58740041
I'll be wary of it. The current Pentium is there since pcpart doesn't list any cheaper ones and newegg doesn't seem to have them as well.

>>58739958
Just stick with the G4560, anon. The premium on anything else higher tier isn't worth the extra performance.
I also managed to somehow fit an RX 480, and a 480GB SSD for your friend in this build for the same price.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s2Q8zM
But if you can wait for Zen, then yeah do that. Hopefully the G4560 is an indication that there's some competition in the CPU market.

>>58740011
If you want the best, use real world benchmarks in games and the like.
If you're lazy, and you want a direct comparison site, use Userbenchmark. It still has its flaws, but it should give you a general idea of hardware based on benchmarks from people running the same hardware.

>>58740069
>>58740082
I'm sorry I said Falcon can fuck off without looking at the site. Now that I looked at it, he can really fuck off.

>>58740102
You can find G4560 for $75 in some places, but amazon doesn't have it yet. It's okay since you won't have to wait, have a slightly better clock and better IGPU for $15 extra bucks
>t. guy who bought G4600 from amazon

>>58740135
>hating on based Falcon
Sad! You probably dont even have a solid reason.

>>58740114
>>58740144
Then I guess the build is fine. Again, I didn't go for the cheapest Pentium since it isn't listed, I have seen RX480s for cheaper, and SSD sales are very good. The build can be improved much more.

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>>58732154
Actual owner here and all i can say it's good enough for a casual cucks like me.

>>58740148
What reasons do I need? Most of the tiers don't make sense. For instance, how the fuck can you recommend an i3 for a $700 build? It's retarded.

>>58740213
>It's retarded.
Its not. More money goes to the GPU department. Also the whole thing is just a guideline. There is also a lot of useful info excluding the builds on the page.

>>58740269
The only thing I can agree on is the info it can show to first timers. The thing is that those who look to the site probably are going to go piece by piece for the build. Putting an i3 for a $700 build is retarded, don't defend that. My current build is practically $200 less and has a similar GPU. Bump to a quad core and a RX480 and I'm at least $100 less with more performance.

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What's a good CPU to go with the 1050?

I'm upgrading my 2400, so I'm keeping the same socket. These three are my options.

Is the i7 worth it?

I like my 1050 Ti. I have an i5 2320, so I can't really go for anything super itnense.

>>58735927
Oh shit lol nice temps, I didn't know speccy could fuck up that bad on temps i thought it was always around 115. if it could read the tempts.

A 4gb 460 is better than a 2gb 1050, right?

>>58732154
I enjoy mine.

>>58733043
They kind of are. A 1070 is going to set you back around $380-$400 unless you find a really good deal.

1080 is pushing $600+.

>>58740927
Probably. 2GB is not enough.

>>58732381
> taking something to it's illogical conclusion is a solid argument tactic
wew

How is Zotac's quality?

>>58732154
The price is all wrong.

>>58740505
unless you're doing video encoding,
no.

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Uhh... what's the difference? They have the exact same performance and price.

Is the bottom one just going to be cooler and consume more power on the 2nd fan?

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>>58739982
Absolutely, I'm using that exact combo in my system. Was a huge upgrade from the Athlon X4 860K + GeForce GTX 950 I was using previously.

I want to sell off my GTX 750 Ti before I buy a GTX 1050 Ti
not that I really need the money or anything, but what would I do with a 750 Ti lying around not connected to anything

>>58742192
Don't sell it until you know the sale will make you have enough money for the new card, so you don't have to wait long. Just use integrated graphics while you wait.
For example if you sell it for $50 and you only need $40 more to buy the 1050

That's what I'm doing with my shitty GPU

>>58742248
I already have enough money for a new card, I just don't like the idea of buying one while I still have a good card.

>>58742285
It's a good upgrade. 750 isn't really good anymore, and it's old as fuck

>>58742305
yeah but if I just leave it lying around I'll feel bad.

>>58742314
Well then it's a backup/paperweight

>>58732154
that the rx470 demolishes it

>>58743800
and the 1060 demolishes the 470
Your point?

>>58743806
The 1050Ti is a stupid buy. The 1060 was a good buy when it came out, but it has fallen flat.
The only cards I would recommend right now are the 470, the 480, and the 1070. All other cards are pretty bad buys.

everybody raved about the 750 Ti but now they hate the more powerful and same priced 1050 Ti.

you can literally throw a 1050 Ti into any pc made in the last 15 years and play games. no 6/8 pin fuckery needed, no molex to 6 pin connectors you probably don't even have.

it's a great option for the price. I have one and it's fine for sub 1080p gaming. no it's not my main pc's card.

>>58732342
You mean $10. For all intents and purposes the cards cost the same, but the 470 is 40% faster

When will the gtx 11 series come out? I want to buy a 1170

>>58733887
But the RX470 is >50% more powerful than the 1050 ti for 25% higher price. The only legitimate reason to get a 1050 ti over the 470 is if you have a shitty prebuilt PC and absolutely cannot afford the extra 30$ + a new psu. You can't deny the price:perf crown from that fucking thing especially as prices continue to drop on it.

overpriced where I live(italy)

>>58732381
>Fuck off.

Nvidia burning dow da Hous

>>58741886
I think that's called Reductio ad absurdum

>>58742106

The top one has no power connector, the bottom one does.

>>58746466
Aren't both cards good enough to just pop into the board and get powered? So I need a 6 pin cable for the dual fans one?

>>58746515

The single fan one is aimed at small ITX builds or OEM PCs without a 6pin lead on the power supply. The dual fan will have better cooling, but the 1050 Ti doesn't get very hot anyway. Having the 6pin connector will give a more stable power supply to the GPU since the direct connection from the PSU will have less loss than power being routed through the mobo and PCIe slot.

>>58732154
hehe xd

>>58747115
Well as long as the box comes with the 4 to 6 pin adapter cable, it's all good.

>>58746515
added power connector for when overcocks card to go over the power limit. otherwise it will throttle.
yes extra fan uses a few more watts.