Why do smartest people in the world prefer Macs? Why don't

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>>58729415
Where do technology illiterate mactoddlers get the false impression that they or their fruity toddler toys are welcome much less belong on a technology board?

>>58729415
>intelligence in one field equals intelligence in all fields
when will this meme end

>>58729440
Neil D. Tyson is doing is best to kill it, but still it perseveres.

>that font
ackshully triggered

>>58729449
You mean when he reviews movies or talks about politics? LMAO
He's the fucking arch Lord of that meme

They're Unix-Like with the added benefit of not making you look autistic

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>>58729521
>t. macautist

>>58729415
>>>/v/

>>58729415
if money isn't an issue and you dont play games, why wouldn't you buy a Mac? serious question

>>58729415
Because anime looks better on it

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whenever I look at some video on Youtube from some CS/AI conference, all the people have Macs.

ALL OF THEM

why???

pic related... one of the fathers of deep learning

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>>58729555
>fathers of deep learning

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>>58729415
Reminder to report apple marketing threads.

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>>58729575
Jeff Dean was not even one of the early pioneers of deep learning.

Fathers of deep learning: Geoff Hinton, Yan LeCun and Yoshua Bengio.

Anyway, Jeff Dean also uses Macs.

>>58729536
this is legitimately the only reason
like why would you spend hours fiddling around with some shit distro just to get things to work?
why would you want your valuable data and information to easily be fucked up because windows is garbage?

there just isn't an alternative for professionals
you might find some fanboys using thinkpads or dells or whatever the fuck, but they're the minority

>>58729550

The command like interface on a Mac is very similar to Linux. It uses bash and has the same coreutils. If you're used to using the Linux command line, you'll be familiar with Mac. So you get a lot of what you find in a Linux desktop OS in a commercially supported BSD variant.

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>>58729605
>dat butthurt.
kek'd. stay mad, pajeet.

yeah, I'm sure Jeff Dean gets millions of dollars every year to promote Macs. kek'd fucking hard.

>>58729605
>herpaderpa if i screencap this section of a conspiratard blog people will have to take it as the objective truth
SO SAD

>education
>intelligence
Literally can't change a washer on a tap and replace their own oil.

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>mactoddlerOS
>for professionals


MactoddlerOS is a meme perpetuated by hipster morons that can't even figure out how to right click, and spread their disease like the rabid sheep they are, fooling innocent bystanders into buying their trash as well.

>>58729440
The only fields /g/ is intelligent in are ricing and gaming. That's why they don't use macs

So.. that makes everyone that uses linux or anything else than macOS a idiot, or someone that doesn't know how to use computers? i don't get the point of posting this, OP.

>>58729744
>anon has spent his whole life shitposting about macs on 4chan
vs
>reputable human beings with actual successful careers who use macs
hmmmmmmmm
i wonder which side sounds more sane

>>58729865
The shitposters.

>>58729865
>>reputable human beings
>>use macs

Good joke.

>>58729621
You are braindead fucking monkey. First of all there are distros like ubuntu that are hassle free, secondly if you somehow fuck up your files by fucking installing viruses(only way that you can) thats not windows fault.

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>>58729415
They're too busy getting shit done versus sperging over spec sheets.

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>>58730864
>busy getting shit done

>>58729621
>valuable data and information to easily be fucked up

you mean like by grabbing and droping a folder ontop another with the same name, and losing all the files of one of them? im a mac that is.

i hate to admit it buy professionals with no time to waste are better served with a pre installed windows with a factory reset option

you neet paupers might not believe but people with 100k income dont purchase without consideration for price just because they could, ultimately, if you're paying 1.5x for a product of same quality and capabilities as any other brand, you are just being conned, or you're just a mundane mouthbreather susceptible to advertising

>>58729768
Yea, but what are macs often used for?
Social media?
The latest model can't even control an Arduino without a dongle. In engineering work, their only used as latex machines with purdy fonts.

>>58729415
If you are really a professional scientist or researcher, you most definitely do most of your work on a cluster. So all the shit /g/ spergs over about the performance of the kernel or the userland or whatever the fuck it is doesn't matter because all you need is a good enough ssh client.

When all you need is a text editor and ssh mac is pretty fucking good because of its build quality. The stability of the stock software, the ability to use any commercial software if need be and in general just a pretty good consumer OS. The unreasonably high price tag doesn't matter because these people are rich and/or the laptop was paid for by the company.

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This guy, Nick Bostrom, has an IQ in the region between 170 and 190.

>>58731064
>>58731064
This. Most fucking scientist use data servers and dont give a shit what others use because they are comfy enough to afford a 2000 typewriter with ssh and facebook. In fact most CEs I know are competent with any machine, you just gotta give us pen and paper and we can still do mathematics.

>>58729415
they don't lift

>>58731119
>t. mactoddler brainlet

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>>58731161
mental illness is so sad :(

https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=%3Et.+mactoddler

Print that out and take it to your psychiatrist so he increases your meds dosage. Your'e seriously mentally disturbed when you waste your life constantly just shitposting the same phrase over and over.

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>>58731014
>droping a folder ontop another with the same name, and losing all the files of one of them?

I think you mean dropping a folder into the same location as another with the same name. Where before it does anything destructive, it'll ask if you want to proceed

>>58729415
ThinkPads are great laptops but on /g/ they're basically a form of physical virtue signalling, shilled mostly by braindead pedants playing pretend businessman to satisfy their delusions that they are truly "productive" individuals even though most of those who are actually productive or knowledgeable have long since realized that for 95% of personal computing use cases, every brand, OS and platform is ultimately the same, and thus merely pick what they like the most or whatever does the job period.

Macs are well marketed, well-reviewed and more readily accessible through brick-and-mortar stores as well as online retailing. They provide a nice Unix environment while also natively running many popular commercial staples.

apple devices are reliable, powerful, fast, good looking, well made
no magic here, just quality

>>58729415
Because it's a unix based platform with native support for enterprise software (e.g. Adobe Suite)

>>58731228
>>58731241
good morning my Indian friends

>>58729432
MACTODDLERS BTFO

>>58731304
Good morning, my delusional brother.

Because on linux I had three options

Painstakingly update twelve different configs every time I wanted to change one fucking color
Spend an hour or two writing a giant fucking python/bash+sed script to do that for me off termite.conf's colors (did this with firefox, started doing it for vim but gave up because colors still had to be swapped around for schemes that didn't roughly conform to ANSI colors or else it would look like shit)
Leave everything default and pretend to be an old school UNIX pro with my fugly CDE tier shit

My 15" RMBP is not the best made laptop. It's a little creaky, there aren't enough ports, and the keyboard layout is a tad retarded (and hard to clean. nice crumb tray, apple). The OS is mildly unstable and apple devs play whack-a-mole fixing bugs, so updating helps as much as it hurts. But at least I don't have to rice or fuck around with hackintosh hardware compatibility.

t. IQ 136, college dropout, married to honoka kousaka since 2014, cured prostate cancer twice, suppressed by feminist jews each time

>>58729432
bill gates wrote one unoriginal program on stolen computer time, stole a whole OS, and then used cutthroat business practices and software incompatibility to force his shit into popularity

and some people still think he's better than steve jobs

>>58729415
smart =/= technologically literate

>>58731828
Truly technologically literate people don't bother with babby-tier pedantic virtue signalling shit like OS wars, though.

>>58731828
that sword cuts both ways

before you argue browse the catalog for a minute

>>58731828
Technology literate ≠ freetard.

>No, you don't get it, even though you're an expert C programmer and know every OS inside and out, you're a tech illiterate babby because you use OS X and xcode. Get enlightened, faggot!
>-sent from emacs

>>58731888
Technologically literate people don't also spend thousands of dollars on hardware that's a decade old
Apple is literally Geeksquad-tier

>>58731901
>only software is technology :^^^)

Go back to school you fucking moron

>>58731907
Technologically literate people don't necessarily give a fuck about specs.

Spec-savvy gaymers from /v/ would be put to shame by someone like rob pike, but he uses an MBA to run acme, so I guess he's tech illiterate.

>>58731915
When it comes to consumption, software is the better tech to be literate in. Being literate in consuming hardware is a largely irrelevant skill as few people doing real work go through so much hardware as to benefit from staying up to date. Gamers are the sole exception.

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>>58731828
>smart =/= technologically literate
Do you think this guy is technologically literate?

>>58729555
>>58729575
>>58729617
why do people think AI people are intelligent, because the word intelligence occurs?

especial today its mostly big data with some empiric guesses

>>58731907
Tech-literate people aren't mindless consumers that only care about having the biggest numbers. They care about what gets the job they need to do done the way they like it done. If a Mac does that, so be it. They're more than capable of pretty much anything you'd reasonably need of them and not really all that expensive in the end.

>>58731929
>Technologically literate people don't necessarily give a fuck about specs

Yes, because the top physicists and mathematicians use a fucking Atari to run their calculations
The people you are talking about are not technologically literate, they're presenters, they make slideshows and that's it
Give a monkey a banana and he'll do more impressive shit than that

>software is the better tech to be literate in
Not when the only software you know is Libreoffice and an operating system that is pretty much incompatible with everything

>>58731952
>I need justify spending 1500 dollars to make a powerpoint document

>>58731952
People understand the term "tech literate" as well as they understand the term "power user"

If you don't want to start a semantics flamewar you shouldn't use either

>>58731971
>Yes, because the top physicists and mathematicians use a fucking Atari to run their calculations
Correct, they research what gives them the best bang for their buck and supports the calculations they need to do, buy that, and then go back to living a normal life where they can't even name the latest graphics card from nvidia, or how much VRAM their laptop has.

>>58729550
From my experience: because macos is the most broken OS on the market and because the hardware isn't great either. All it is is pretty. It's jewelery

>>58731808
Still the richest man on the planet
Stay btfo

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>>58731808
>t. mactoddler

>>58731988
we will be seeink who is as americans call "btfo" when first missile of proletariat is headink for redmond, da

>>58732013
MACTODDLERS BTFO

>>58731981
>they research what gives them the best bang for their buck and supports the calculations they need to do

Except when it comes to running complex calculations you need extremely powerful processing
I'm not talking about 1+1 here, more like calculating every possible thing on a mission to mars
The variables and calculations are so fucking long that your macbook would fry before it could get quarter way through
It's why supercomputers exist, you fucking mong
How fucking dumb do you have to be to thing that hardware is only related to video games?
Oh wait, right, you're a mouthbreathing Macfag who can't tell apart his head from his ass

>>58732032
Oh, so you're not talking about independent projects?

Those other things are handled by an entirely different department. Physicists don't need to give a flying fuck, and they definitely don't have to give a flying fuck about how many FPS in LoL they can push on their fucking laptop, which is normally used as a glorified email client, UNIX dumb terminal, and powerpoint machine, and should therefore be comfy to use and nice looking above all else

>>58731971
>Yes, because the top physicists and mathematicians use a fucking Atari to run their calculations
They sure as hell don't use some gutless piece of shit laptop no matter what the logo on the back to run them either. Please stop trying to act like an authority on shit you know nothing about.

>>I need justify spending 1500 dollars to make a powerpoint document
Who said anything about justifying? They don't care, and the majority of people who actually understand and benefit from their work don't either. It's just you who's having an aneurysm over a couple hours' pay. The only people who give a shit about how much the tool costs are the pedantic dumbshits like you who know nothing about technology or "science" beyond shitposting, regurgitating marketing talking points and playing pretend professional.

You aren't special for spending less on something in order to maximize your mindless consumption. Stop acting like it.

>>58732032
>Except when it comes to running complex calculations you need extremely powerful processing
Which is often provided by servers and other remote systems, not your gutless shitty laptop or desktop.
>I'm not talking about 1+1 here, more like calculating every possible thing on a mission to mars
Ahh, an appeal to science fiction fantasy. I think I'll just stop here, it's clear you wandered in here from /r/technology recently and just haven't adjusted yet.

Spaceflight isn't really that computationally expensive, by the way. Most astronauts can handle that kind of math in their heads.

>>58732013
>Jobs literally steals from his friend to even start Apple in the first place
>Never does a lick of work himself but takes all the credit
>Has the balls to shit-talk people with far more technology and computer knowledge than he'll ever have

Why do people worship this fuck again?

>>58729415
Because they're smart enough to disregard /g/'s autistic bullshit.

Also:
>>58731064
>>58731228
>>58731286
>>58731828

>>58732013
>Tails just sat there coolly, looking Sonic right in the eye, before hurling back, in his squeaky voice, what would become a classic zinger.

Who writes this shit

>>58732067
He directed the company and signed off the good products he knew had potential, that's what mattered in the end, no matter how much it hurts your feelings that the big bad chad bogeyman ultimately won out in the end.

Woz wasn't really that special, by the way, all he did was integrate a shitty terminal onto a low-end 6502 board. Everything he built was a toy that implemented other people's ideas in an uninteresting way.

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>>58732157
>died because of P.C.
>won out in the end

>>58729415
Because /g/ is even smarter

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>>58732266
/g/ is inane. even RMS diagnosed us. 98% of /g/ are kids and NEETs.

>>58732282
>even RMS
wew lad

>>58732282
Posting inane comments is truly the highest form of intellectual activity.

>>58732247
The Macintosh did quite fine in its publishing/2D graphics niche throughout the 1980s to the mid '90s, certainly better than the Apple II kept on life support by the education market and a dwindling population of hobbyists and dedicated loyalists. And they're still alive today, and relevant enough to get under your skin and compel you to waste endless hours of your life shitposting in every thread about them.

>>58732347
>LEAV APEL ALONNNNNNNEEE

>t. mactoddler

Why don't you answer the opposite question.

They are using Macs / OSX presumably because they like them and are able to do whatever work they need to do on them - why should they switch?

>>58731988
not really. look up (((jacob rothschild)))

>>58731808
>practices and software incompatibility to force his shit

lol, microsoft's Embrace Extend Extinguish is sure a menace, but coming from a iFaggot posting from their closed garden of overpriced hardware AND software... i dont even..

>>58732387
Because I will call them faggots if they don't

>>58732380
Man, /g/ sucks shit at banter.

They use Macs because they value their time. You have to dick around with a GNU/Linux machine to make it functional for any amount of time and Windows is chock-full of retarded design decisions.

"It just works" isn't just a slogan.

>>58729415
that explains the need to use retarded names for normal things
>deep learning
>big data

>>58729415
>Why do smartest

That faggot isn't Perelman.

Shitpost.

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>>58733284
he probably uses a Mac too. most of the Fields Medal winners use Macs. Pic related.

>>58733333
apple would withdraw their funding if they don't make public appearances with apple products

I've been to a few scientific conferences now and I think I've only seen one macbook at any of them.

>>58729550
I have a Mac. A laptop to be exact. I'm not super fond of it but it's alright. Next time I'm buying a windows laptop. Bash is nice though, windows and the command line is a disaster. And the small amount of programs and abysmal gaming performance also is annoying

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>>58732157
>Woz wasn't really that special
He is literally the only reason people even know what Macs are today. Jobs was nothing without him. He would've been fired from Atari and left the tech business to go bullshit some other field to kingdom come and home computers would've been better off for it.

are the all in one macs actually good? a friend who runs a software business codes exclusively on one

>>58731828
True, my collage maths calculus professor has a Ph.D in math but doesn't know shit about technology . He simply doesn't care
I guess that's the case with most of these people, they have money and don't really care about Linux/Thinkpads so they just buy Mac so they don't have to think about it

>>58735042
>collage maths calculus professor
>collage

>>58729415
Because they just want the computer to work, so they can focus on important things, like their research. Spending time ricing desktops or messing with your configs is not productive.

If they are working somewhere like Google, they have company issued laptops. They can choose from a Mac, or some shitty windows laptop, or a chrome book. Of course they are going to choose Mac in that case.

>>58729415
scientists, while brilliant in their field, are often borderline retarded in every other aspect of life.

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Alright you fuckers, I'm sold. What is a reliable MacBook model for those of us who don't have money to burn?

Equivalent to, say, a Thinkpad T420. Not the latest-and-greatest, but reliable and overall the best in its price range. What would be the MacBook equivalent of that?

>>58736524
Well when you say "its price range" and mention the T420, the implication is a lower price range. I mean you could get a 2015 MBP but that's still not inexpensive. It's just gonna be one of the better choices out there. If you want to go cheaper get a few-years-old Air and welcome to shitty display world.

But
>reliable
is a problem with pretty much every model. Go browse through Louis Rossmann's videos and you'll find him talking about a common and silly failure point on every generation.

>>58736524
An x220 hackintosh

>>58729415
>mactoddlers
>smart
Quality shitpost.

>>58729415
Cause they get them free with the company they work for.

>>58737515
so why do companies buy them?

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>104 of butthurt /v/indows redditors.
Lmao.

I fuckig bet OP doesn't even use a Mac, he just likes to trigger all the children currently on the board.

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>>58738231
>plebbitors
Why do you think that?

>>58738187
because apple makes contracts with them wherein the company gets them at a steep discount

>>58738187
One, some or all of these reasons:

1) They get them for bulk discount from a supplier
2) They know that the people getting the computer are going to public events where people are taking pictures
3) The company has an endorsement from apple
4) A public statement. They want to show how "revolutionary" and "modern" they are. Like how that Linus techtips youtube guy bought 25 grand worth of Razer Blade 2016s for his employees just to show off how different they are from macbooks in youtube shill vids.

>>58738312
5) the company develops for several ecosystems and strangely chose the only laptop that can run all of them. This only happens because macOS is purposefully locked

>>58731988
>give away literally most of your wealth to charity
>Still richest man in the world today because all the resource/telco billionaire babbies fucked up

Must feel so good.

>>58738364
Give examples.

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>>58729415
Alphago is actually running on a version of Linux.

>>58738423
Examples of developing for several ecosystems? You need help with this?
Linux, windows and macOS.

>>58738462
I'm asking for what you would need a macbook to develop for. Do

>>58729555
>>58729617
>>58729635
>>58730887
>>58731119
>>58731930
>>58734061
>>58738264
look like developers to you? Half of them are the press conference and the other half don't actually do anything on those macbooks but google shit all day long and get paid for it.

>>58738558
iOS apps or any split-ecosystem program (example: OpenSSH, Chromium). I'm not defending it, I'm saying that even if macs were bad for development, since macOS has a non-trivial marketshare, people have to develop for it. And to do so they either have to buy a mac or build a hackintosh (which no company would do).

>>58731808
At least he washes himself

>>58731808
The whole reason people think he's better is BECAUSE he did that scum shit. He was smart enough to take advantage of the leading computer industry at the time and make 50 billion off of it.

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>>58738446
u wot m8?

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>>58738446
they clearly macs mate

>>58729575
so much father that they have to buy other ai companies

I mean cmon
Is this even bait?

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>>58729432
fpbp

>>58738729
>>58738755
Do you really think they paid out of their own pocket for these? The company gave it to them for free.

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>>58729550
>money isn't an issue

Because money is ALWAYS the issue.

Money is a universal resource in a world of scarce resources. It can be exchanged for anything, even the most valuable resource to humans - time. Therefore any rational decision must be based on the optimal use of money.

Overpaying for hardware is a waste of money and therefore a waste of life. Just like writing/reading this post was.

>>58731666
You are like the devil.

>>58738729
>>58738755
Yes you fucking retarded morons, I can confirm that specialized software is easiest to make for Linux. Alphago IS running on some (most likely heavily modified) version of Linux.

>>58738818
>Overpaying for hardware is a waste of money
Buying Apple hardware you pay for the ability to be not intelligent with tech, so you don't need to waste your time.

>>58732282
More like
>the day /g/ got hard

>>58729550
beacuse mac is not hackable. over.

>>58738809
>Do you really think they paid out of their own pocket for these? The company gave it to them for free.
So? If they wanted something "better", they would have gotten that.

Clearly, MBPs are the best.

>>58729550
>why wouldn't you buy a Mac
Intel Management Engine
An older Mac that's Libreboot compatible has literally no problems; use that if you like

>>58738962
>beacuse mac is not hackable
what does that even mean m8?

>>58738875
when they're using linux, they're just ssh-in into linux you retard.

no one is actually using X11, GNOME and other inferior linux shit.

>>58729415
Because no one cares

>>58738818
>>58738924
It is only fair to say one can buy an used 200bux pc and do relevant work on it

Hobbies (such as gaming) need not apply in the money debate as they aren't a necessity

>>58738962
What do you mean by "hackable"?

>>58731064
>the ability to use any commercial software if need be
that's windows's thing.

>>58739014
>just ssh-in into Linux
The fuck are you talking about? Should this be a counter argument?

What I'm saying is:
>Linux best for the AI job
>Every serious AI company uses Linux to both build and run their algorithms
>Every serious AI company must know/understand the value of Linux

I don't give a shit about what they use in their freetime and my argument wasn't hinging on that. All I was saying is that Linux is objectively better for probably everything science and they most likely know it.

>>58729415
/g/ likes to shill the lifestyle of a more unemployed, homeless Richard Stallman.

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>>58739164
>AI
nigga, AI ppl clearly almost ALL use Macs.

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>>58739164
>>Linux best for the AI job
Heh? Do you know who this is? What computer is he using?

>>58739017
That you cannot even change fucking mac address od your NIC.

>>58739231
You forgot to add
>free time

I sometimes use a gamecube in my freetime, doesn't mean I don't value my PC.
I use Linux as a main driver in my freetime, doesn't mean I don't value Windows as a gaymen platform.

The whole argument these retarded threads are based on are pretty much invalid for most of the population because guess what:

>people can like more than one thing
I just blew your mind, didn't I?

>>58739264
>Linux
>A computer
Bad bait, gtfo.

There are both really smart and really dumb users of all OSes. That includes Linux (see: /g/ programming thread with morons running Arch Linux but barely being able to code a for loop).

You retards just don't understand that it hardly matters what OS you use. As long as your OS isn't total dogshit and lets you to edit, compile, and run programs who gives a fuck.

>>58729415
Because they are smart people, which likes an stable system.

>>58739231
You're not very good.

Also this is probably the only place you feel safe saying "nigga" since you're the whitest wheat thin in your town.

>>58739276
>>58739264
Missread, my above statement is still valid. You can not say "one thing is objectively better for everything", but "one thing is objectively better for one task". Windows can do shit Linux cant, Linux can do shit MacOS cant and vice versa. If you pick/value your software because others do you are a complete fucking moron. Just use whats best for the job and stop circlejerking about "This celeb uses this software so it must be better at everything"

>>58739324
dude, you're splitting cunt hairs and trying to wiggle your way out of obvious FACT that almost ALL AI people use Macs.

>>58739324
Best post.

>>58739349
>gets explained over and over that using a machine to a specific usecase doesn't equate to it being the best
>pretends not to understand, instead throws tantrum
What do you want exactly? For people to say "yes, those are all macs"? Fine, those are all macs. Companies that develop for 3 different OS's buy the only machine able to run all 3, absolutely shocking, I know.

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>>58739324
Look at this.. Prof Stuart Russell (author of the most popular AI textbook) and Eliezer Yudkowski. Both huge AI guys. Both use Macs.

Anyway, you're full of shit, sir. You are a fucking shill who bases his "facts" on ideology and not solid evidence.

Anyway, I'll leave you to your fantasies.

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I'll just leave this here

>>58739443
wow.. guy who makes games for kids doesn't want to use macs. what horror! world will fall apart if we don't have more gaymes for retarded children. topkek

ps: he wrote DOOM on NeXT, a predecessor of MacOS.

>>58739421
>it's good because smart people use it!

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>>58739443
PC gets us to masturbation games, Macs got us on Mars.

Wow OP, there are smart people who prefer Macs. What a fucking revelation. Guess what? For each AI genius using a Mac, you have about 10,000 total morons also using Apple products while not even knowing what a terminal is or how to code a "Hello world" program in any language.

You're going to have smart and dumb users for every single OS. In my experience though, the worst people are stupid Linux users. At least with Windows and Mac plebs, they know they have no real clue about technology and just want things kept simple. These Linux guys also have no clue, but they pretend like they do. Here's my experience with dumb Linux users

>be me
>at uni, doing CS degree
>first year, deciding which societies to join
>people suggest the computing society since it naturally aligns with my degree
>go to a meeting
>a bunch of neckbeard weirdos and like 1-2 really ugly girls all sitting around on their laptops
>they're literally in the same room yet are talking to eachother on IRC instead of having normal face-to-face conversations
>every single one of these retards is using some hipster garbage-tier Linux distro
>insist on doing EVERYTHING via terminal even if you can accomplish it 20 times faster using the GUI
>ALL the fucking talk about is how great Linux is while subtly bragging about their programming skills

Fast forward a few months

>exams roll around
>all the retards fail the most basic programming and maths exams
>struggling to do basic calculus or to write a program to sum primes in Java
>half of them drop out of the course
>the rest end up struggling through with shit grades
>still using shitty Linux distros and pretending like they're hot shit

FUCK these people.

>>58739463
>t-this doesn't count!
Do you think NeXT is anywhere similar to macOS?

>>58729415
>implying applel doesn't just hand out macbooks to these people so they're seen with them publicly
>falling for their marketing campaign

>>58739349
Its a FACT that smart people use whats best for the job, yes. If I want to game, I use Windows. If I want to actually do shit, I use Linux. If I want stuff that just_werks and I have a lot of disposable income I use a Mac. These are ofc. just examples.

>>58739421
>you dont base it on facts
>Hurr durr eople I look up to use Macs so they must be OBJECTIVELY better at EVERYTHING
Kill yourself. You did not only totally misunderstand what I said but you are also a hypocrite and a fucking retard that doesn't know how an argument works.

>>58738663
underrated

>>58739443
>One line of questioning asked whether Carmack knew about a “secret meeting” in a hotel room with Oculus co-founders Nate Mitchell and Palmer Luckey, to which Carmack responded “No I didn’t, it was a secret.”

Classic Carmack.

>>58734000
>Bash is nice though, windows and the command line is a disaster.
you now use bash on win10 just like that.

>>58731210
>he does not have a bot to auto-post a sentence in a thread when a certain words are posted
Must be hard to be a retard

>>58739164
>All I was saying is that Linux is objectively better for probably everything science and they most likely know it.
Stop kidding yourself with your "objectively" crap.
The reason it's so popular on supercomputers and shit because it's free,open&moddable(and that is by far the biggest reason, which is tied to the license), actively supported, and has a history of being used on servers, not because of anything intrinsically special about linux.

>>58739577
>If I want to actually do shit, I use Linux.
By your reckoning only 2% of desktop users want to do shit.
Apparently "doing shit" means whining about the lack of useful software and arguing about systemd.

>>58739499
>Do you think NeXT is anywhere similar to macOS?
Yes. Cocoa, to this day, uses NeXT APIs. You can recompile NextStep applications on a Mac with only few changes (settings mostly).

>uses mac, nothing about to worry about hardware side
>gets shit done

>>58739739
And what does that have to do with my question? Do you think a Linux server distro is a similar environment to a Gnome distro because they use the same APIs? One of them doesn't even have a window servee?

>>58739714
You are assuming that 100% of PC users are "smart" as in "I chose the right thing for the right job". Obviously your assumption is wrong.

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>>58739782
2017 will be the year of Linux desktop, amIrite?

kek'd

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>mactoddlers unironcally collect photos of the 0.1% of the intellectual population that happens to have macs

How pathetic must your iLife be?

>>58739797
>evading the question
>resorting to maymays

>>58739880
what question? you're avoiding factual evidence that all big AI researchers use Macs. pretty much every one of them.

I'm either going to install Linux on my PC or buy a macbook pro.

Which is the better choice? Macbook has more steam games and native league of legends, which I play.

>>58739903
Keep windows and install steam on it.

>>58739901
>what question
The one in the post you replied to.
>you're ignoring factual evidence
No, I'm not. I replied to it in that same post. You really didn't read it. Nice evasion.

>>58729531
what the hell's going on?

>>58739947
some kid throws a tantrum. apple haters go nuts as if that proves that mac users throw tantrums.

it's just another bait for retards.

>>58729415

Work IT in a university and the school I work in virtually all the lab people use Macs unless the software requires Windows. This is one of the best schools in the world to. Most people with varying intelligences have a few things in common. One of those is a complete ineptitude when it comes to anything computer and or technology related.

>>58739968
>t. mactoddler

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>>58739987
>t. mental illness
imagine how shit this nutjob's life must be when he wastes all of this time posting the exact same reply over and over and over... god damn what a sad way to live.

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>>58740044
>nutjob's life

>>58740044
t. mactoddler

>>58740044
>t. mactoddler

>>58740044
>t. mactoddler

>>58740044
>t. mactoddler

>>58740044
>t. mactoddler

>>58739901
Jesus, will you FINALLY start giving some fucking context you retarded fool?
>all big AI researches use MACS
IN THEIR FREE TIME
So does it mean Macs are better for AI development? No.

>all big AI researches use LINUX
For the AI itself. Does this mean Linux is better for AI development? Yes.

Who gives a shit about what they use in private you fucking retarded moron. I cant believe how retard like you can sperge out over what OS people use for the unsiginificant part of their life rather than the interesting one.

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who here /tosmartforlincucks/

>>58740139
>So does it mean Macs are better for AI development? No.
LMAO... ahhaahahahahaha

Literally everyone who does AI research uses Macs. Just look at the fucking Github repos for major AI libs and look at the screenshots: it's all Mac UI.

>>58740150
>Omg in this guys opinion a Mac is the best thing that ever happened to him
>That means it must be great for everyone and everything.
You are retarded. Also who the fuck gives a shit?

>>58740192
>missing the point
Kill yourself.

>>58740192
>UI
At this point you're either very stupid or extremely proficient at pretending

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>>58729415
because pic related.

>>58729503
I'm pretty that was his point retard

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>>58738818
>Overpaying for hardware is a waste of money

>proceeds to buy a $2000 childish video game machine with RGB LEDs, a case window and a $300 mechanical keyboard

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Just leaving this here.

>>58740276
you'd get more out of a $2300 system than a mac.

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>>58740244
Apple can't into space

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>>58740297
>shitty troll from 2012
shitty job, Pajeet, but here's your 50 rupees anyway.

meanwhile, the most powerful person in the world is using Macs.

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>>58740356
>pic from 1990s.
kek. stay mad, chinkpad shill. here's your 50 ramimbi for shilling communist chinese products.

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>>58740381
>t. mactoddler

Cause they aren't poor and have money. Although overpriced, MACs are actually pretty good computers if cost isn't a concern (at least until they fucked up with this touchbar nonsense)

>>58740432
>800mhz trash
>third degree burns if you try to do something taxing on it like watch youtube
>decent computers

Even researchers succumb to laziness in some aspects of their lives. Macs are pretty easy to use, and if you aren't willing to look under the ugly surface, you might actually think that they're secure, since they're Unix and made by a big company. Apple wouldn't lie to you after selling you a product that costs $2000, right?

>>58738663
kek

>>58739947
iirc the kid is autistic (no shit sherlock) and the parents bring him to a macstore and he jizzes his pants almost.
he is simply
E U P H O R I C
on that webm.

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>used Macs since first pc
>damn I really want to play some games for 2017
>okay
>built a PC
>interface is slow clunky
>scrolling takes forever and not percise
>content creation is a chore and not intuitive
>damn its hot in here, did I leave the heater on full blast?
>see this
what do?

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>>58740567
>complain about 30-40 degrees on pc
>while using throttling housefire mac trash

>>58730864
Not true. One of the core developers for the Tor project runs a Thinkpad x220 with Qubes OS on it.

>>58740432

Back around 2009, I purchased a Macbook Pro that I had saved up for. It died after about 2 years due to a problem with the hard disk controller. That is, the problem related to the section of the motherboard communicating with the disk, and not the disk itself. It would have cost more money to repair than to replace, so I decided to switch to Linux and Windows on other laptops. Of all of the laptops I have used to date, none have had as many design problems as the Macbook Pro, including a tendency to dent and scratch easily, and to overheat. I recall seeing temperatures as high as 96 degrees Celsius in the damn thing, and looking at the experiences of Mac users since then, it would appear Apple has yet to figure out how to solve heat related issues. Instead, they're making laptops thinner, thus turning them into giant hotplates with no fans whatsoever to deal with the laptop when it is under load. In fact, I have heard that the reason Apple advertises their product as a "notebook" rather than a "laptop" is purely because they would rather you not put the product in your lap -- lest you irradiate your own testicles.

Their OS isn't so great either. One of the problems I had with it was that there was no native package manager, and all of the third party package managers sucked, stored everything in some wonky non-standard directory, and distributed outdated versions of packages. Speaking of outdated, XCode tools shipped with an outdated version of GCC at the time, and these days, doesn't even come with it at all. They symlink GCC to Clang. Ideally, they should have both GCC and Clang available for use, because the former optimizes better. Beyond this, they have had numerous issues related to security. In one case, they took 6 months to fix a root exploit, and didn't even get it right the first time. These sorts of problems should be solved and shipped to the consumer in 48 hours. What a mess!

>>58738818
> in a world of scarce resources

yeah, and diamonds are a rare and valuable asset. kek

>>58729415
>using sarifs in your browser

Fucking disgusting.

>>58740679
Who the fuck needs more than 800Mhz? Maybe windows does, but MacOS is optimised.

>>58740799

It is typically userland applications, not your OS, that are going to use up all of your clock cycles. You can optimize your OS night and day, but you can do absolutely NOTHING about that one Javascript application running in Firefox, Chrome, or Safari, that wants all of your CPU to itself. If you're stuck on 800 MHz, it's going to run slow as balls.

>>58740721
Thank you for your thoughts, Satya.

>>58740782
>coming from plebbit
fucking disgusting

>>58729617
Jeff Dean got rid of his Macbook years ago and uses Ubuntu both at home and at work now. At Google OS X usage has dropped by over 30% in the last year.

>>58740679
>122C
Look again

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>>58740679

Apple is republican as fuck and doesn't donate a single cent to LGBT or other SJW bullshit organizations and hires the least diverse workforce yet why the fuck do libtards and sjws flock to them?
How the fuck does Apple manage this?

We should create some infographics demonstating this 'evil' of Apple on Twitter and tumblr. Make the libtards question themselves and a chance to destroy Apple, two birds with one stone.

>>58739657
win 10 is a disaster

>>58729415
just because they're smart in their specific field does not mean they are smart with computers or their hardware/software

>>58740799
>advertise a chip that can do "up to 3.4ghz"
>doesn't get anywhere near there
>throttles itself to 800mhz and never goes any higher

>>58741006
>Intel chips throttle
kek'd at how retarded you are, Pajeet. they're designed to throttle. stay mad/.

>>58741006
>the fans are pretty decent
>97C

>>58741247
This is at full throttle, again the reviewer used a torture test. Same would happen to a PC.

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>>58741358
>t. mactoddler

>>58740150
Linux seems nice as a hobby because it can be really time consuming.
But if not for gayming I'd be in the Apple ecosystem. It must be nice for everything to work and if something breaks you can just go to the genius bar.
>>58741369
>not understanding what an ultrabook is
>oh wait, it's a Macbook Pro

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>>58741369
> mid 2015
> it's 2017 already
TOP KEK
O
P
K E K

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>Using Arch as main OS
>Having to work 60hrs min/week in a macfag school

>>58731941
no, its heavy math related

>>58734859
they are named imac, and yes they are amazing

>>58741956
>option1: <2016 macbook
>throttling housefire trash
>option 2 >2017 macbook
>20 minute battery life

Into the trash either way.

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>>58734859
>>58742228
>t. mactoddler

>>58741006
>current laptop that isn't a macbook running a quad core at 3.7ghz
>tops out at around 55-60C, idle is around 30


The thing sounds like its going to take off under max load, but at least the cooling does something

>>58729415

I'd imagine because there are personal laptops and other machines for actual work. One you lug around with you and the other is provided at work

>>58743382
>gibberish
lrn2english Pablo.

>>58742151
this. lots and lots of math needed to get into the field.

>>58738818
Why don't you live in the woods surviving off the land with the least use of resources possible?

Shame on /g/ for falling for this obvious paid shill post or extremely desperate troll post.

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>>58745157
apple just had the most profitable quarter ever. the sold millions of new MBPs. are you that retarded to think they'd pay someone to shill on a fucking mongolian crudely-drawn image board? they have more to lose if the shill talks than they'd gain from advertising to bunch of NEETs and kids who can't even afford their products.

you're a baka.

>>58729415
Almost all my professors(mathematicians) are using Linux, smart people using Macs is a cherry picked meme.

>>58746232
you're from youropoor or some other 3rd world shithole, aren't you. it figures.

these people typically want a laptop that "just works".

whether or not that is true anymore, that is often the sort of response you get from these people

Macbooks are usually the best laptops to get for work IMO. fully kitted out with ssd,ram etc.

>>58729550
Visual Studio and .Net development is the future, endorsed and nurtured the brightest industrial minds that value performance and functionality over novelty, until Macs start having hardware and valuing industrial and functional design they will be inferior.

Industrial design means conforming to the standards of 3rd party manufacturers.
>making sure USB, HDMI, headphone jacks, monitors, gpu's, cpu's, keyboards, mice, speakers, headphones, and any other accessories or hardware are as supported as possible and even back compatible with "outdated" components.

The software should be usable, powerful, and easily sharable favoring the developers over the end users.

Windows is made to be an operating system to release your software on. Its perfectly designed for it and the features they add to the hardware or software are backed by massive supporting libraries in the .net framework.

Macs are run by autists that think they ALWAYS have the right answer to everything and don't want devs to freely develop on their platform (which is why they restrict the Iphone app store, hardware, and other things so much).

GNU/Linux is fine but it simply lacks the industrial development power of windows or the draw to actually develop for it because in general linux is not a consumer OS.

>>58739947

literally mrw Steve Jobs died.

he was a great loss to /g/

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>>58729415
>artificial intelligence

Provide the mathematical definition of intelligence.

If you can't, how can you engineer it?


HERE POPS THE NEXT BUBBLE!!!!!

>>58746194
Considering we have a similar thread every 2 or 3 days, yes, I'd say either mental problems or paid shill.

>>58738946
>The time has come and so have I

>>58729415

For a while macs really did rule. Many people have gotten used to it because it is still good enough. That's only changing recently. So many aging "thinkers" will naturally remain on osx

As for developers, many have been off osx for a couple of years now. Frankly, workflow has gotten better and more stable on unity, gnome and windows 10

>>58740300
this is what NEETs actually believe

>>58749706
they still rule.

>>58751941
>t. mactoddler