Reminder that if you're on the market for a used Thinkpad

>>58708858
>1280x800
lolno

>>58708882
1600x900 is a better resolution, but the viewing angles are worse. Also 16/10 aspect ratio is better on laptops.

>>58708979
yeah but 800p? i'd go for a late 2013 rMBP with 8gb ram and 256GB SSD as minimum.
Macbooks with 4gb of ram and 128 of storage are a scam.

I have a mid-2012 Macbook Pro with an i7 and I fucking love it. Just got an x230 tablet with an i7. Even with 16gb and an SSD in the Thinkpad, it just can't run with the mac. Battery life is fucking amazing in the Macbook Pro as well.

>>58709087
With the Retinas, you can't change the ram at all. And the late-2013 model even has a proprietary pcie ssd as far as I know. Nobody who's considering a Thinkpad would ever buy something like that.

The point of the mid-2012 non-retina is that you can buy it cheap and put in the ram and ssd you need.

how much are these? 13" and 15"

>>58709287
My 13", about two years old and in mint condition cost 500 eurobux

>"retina"

>>58708858
>buying a 5 year old laptop without a replaceable battery

>>58709621
They were in production up to late 2016.

>>58709257
at the cost of a shitty display

>>58709750
If you can get a 15 inch with the 1650 × 1050 than its decent. But 800p and 900p just look awful.

t. Owned a 15 inch 2012 MBP 900p non retina.

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>>58708858
>800mhz piece of shit

>>58709750
dunno... looks fine to me

But then I've never used Retinas so maybe they're magical and I just don't know it

>>58709807
Try reading the OP next time

>>58709867
>t. mactoddler

>>58708858
I have a mbp older than this and it is still my only laptop. I have a recent desktop, but I only use the laptop for the web and typing at uni, so it is fine.

>>58709807
>>800mhz piece of shit
And it's the only computing device that does it.

>>58708858
Burning your nuts you forget to put
Magsafe is annoying
60$ mer charger its sucks
So fragile charger

>>58709750
1280x800 at 13.3" is a fine resolution.

Diving in an apple related thread because fuck it.

If you are just in the market for a laptop with high build quality ad high portability, which of the following two options is better:

Current 13" Macbook Pro with touch bar
2015 15" Macbook Pro

Both have their pros and cons, both are within my budget, struggling to decide. Any current Macbook owners got any opinions on this?

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>>58709807

>>58708858
>cheap enough
Thanks for putting a price tag on it.

>>58712517
Let's be fair, ain't nobody in their right mind buying a macbook new.

>>58708858
still far more expensive than a comparable thinkpad, Apple products hold their value unlike anything else

>>58708858

That's what I'm rocking. Good advice OP. Love mine, and it has plenty of life left.

>>58708858
Nothing wrong with the 2012 Macbook Pro if you find a good refurb/used at a good price. Problem is they're pricey as fuck. A T430 is usually much cheaper and the overall quality is nearly identical save for the aesthetic.

>>58709750
The display looks finer than any other ThinkPad shit, also 800p vs 900p isn't that big of a deal when the display itself is so much better.

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>>58709621
>without a replaceable battery
Are you, sorry to say, retarded?

>>58713073
not that guy, but good luck trying to find a replacement that isnt a piece of shit. all of the 'genuine' ones you buy are $50 knockoffs that will last 1 month before not being able to hold a charge.

i have a 2011 mbp, my battery has 1100 cycles on it and now only lasts about 4 hours. i cant find a replacement for it that is even worth $50.

not to mention, my dedicated gpu is now failing so the thing will randomly hard lock up and then it wont turn on unless i let it sit for hours for the battery to drain, or take the bottom off and pull the plug to drain the cmos.

>>58713092
I get them directly from Apple. It's still a supported laptop. I have a few as backup if I need to change, usually once a year.

>2011 mbp
>my dedicated gpu is now failing
Found your problem. Also this thread is about the 2012 13" one, the 2011 13" one also didn't have GPU problems, because it lacked a dedicated GPU. It's your fault for being retarded, we are talking about a good laptop not "hurr Applel is great buy everything Applel, all their shit is gr8"

>>58712517
Well, if you're really going to cheap out on something you use daily and want to work, be reliable and fast, then I can't help you.

>>58713140
>A good laptop

It's one fucking year later you dip. And no, you are not getting them directly from Apple. If you are, you are just as retarded for paying whatever ridiculous price they are offering.

Nice try shill.

>>58713235
>It's just one year later, friend

They made it so good, the mid-2012 13" was only discontinued Oct 27, 2016. (I'm assuming that's what you were referring to)

>>58708858
Can I upgrade the RAM and replace the cells in the battery without needing to flash the BIOS?

>>58713465
No Mac has ever had a BIOS.

>>58713479
Okay, now answer the question

>>58713465
>I upgrade the RAM
Yes

>replace the cells in the battery
If you are savvy enough, the cells inside the battery are actually just flat cells that you can replace with chink ones.

>flash the BIOS
MacBooks like other Macs have EFI, something you can do without crippling the computer is to remove the Intel Management Engine without any ill effect.

>>58713465
Upgrading the ram is just like any pc

Changing the cells in the battery? No idea

>>58713495
It shouldn't need answering, but yes.

>>58713479
>>58713504
>>58713511
>>58713517
Can I do all this for 300 bucks USD

>>58713092
>but good luck trying to find a replacement that isnt a piece of shit.

>find a recent 2012 MBP 13" for cheap
>change the battery for the cheap chink one
>put it back on sale for slightly higher price
>it will sell anyways and you have almost a new battery
>profit

Seriously, nexto shit ThinkPad fags do, this is nothing.

>>58708858
Lets hope the thin meme dies and we can get decent laptops with integrated GPUs

>>58713535
see
>>58713217

But yes, my 2012 13" cost me 240€.