>Core M5 processor >512GB PCIe SSD >8GB RAM >2304x1440

>>58686059
surface book

something with actual usb ports

I'll take the bait. 90% of college students don't need anything more than this:

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/series/acerchromebookr11

$300

>>58686077
>less than half the battery life
>half the SSD for $100 more
>no keyboard included (+$129)
into le trash it goes

>>58686059
Macfag here, and even I admit the surface is a better deal at that price range.

I woud get the new retina tho

>>58686059
Something with a laptop processor instead of a cellphone one.

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>>58686059
>Core M5 processor
>$1599

>>58686081
It has a usb port.

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>>58686143
>a

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>>58686059
i'm goin strong with a $100 chromebook u don't need that

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>>58686059
>M5 processor
>$1500
>college student

2/10 made me reply

>>58686108
>12 is half of 10
>being a poor faggot and buying apple

>>58686151
Yes, a. For you to plug in a flash drive or your phone while out and about. It being occupied when charging is a non-issue because the battery lasts all day.

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>>58686181
>justifying a single usb on a computer
Oh my fuck my sides!

>>58686181
>It being occupied when charging is a non-issue because the battery lasts all day.
Until you need more than a days usage because you are busy and suddenly you're fucked.

But you wouldn't know that, because you don't use it for anything important and you live a lifestyle where you can definitely go home every night.

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>>58686059
>CoreM
>$1588

>>58686059
for $1599 you can get a mbp with a real processor

macbook is a useless product for girls

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>>58686181
>because the battery lasts all day

>>58686301
Are you a hobo or something? This thread is about a laptop to take to college, not a warzone.

>>58686311
wew lad

>>58686059
MBP

Thinpak t something

>>58686317
How is 10 hours of active use not all day?

>>58686590
You're a retard, m8

>>58686059
Dell xps 2in1.

I have an xps 15 with
>bezeless display
>an i7
>8 gb ram
>256 gb ssd
>960m
>same weight
for $1500

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Core ᴹᴱᴹᴱ processors that enable battery runtimes of one day and one night when?

>>58686059
Inspiron 11 3000 with celeron processor and 4GB ram for $250.

Why is it better? Because college students are mostly poor and you'd know that if you ever made it into one.

>>58686644
>Same weight
That's a weird way to say "nearly double".

>>58686059
>over $1000 laptop for school

LMAO what are you even doing?

>>58686644
>16:9 displays
>on laptops
Only a moron do it nowadays.

>>58686059
Late 2015 mbp or any other pre cucked battery model.

>>58686664
>college students are poor
>pays 20k+ yearly to a uni

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>>58686311
This.

Jesus christ and fucking retarded faggots like OP gloat about a processor about as powerful as found on most phones today? Dam.

>>58686059
>$1599
>college student

>1600
some people make small startups and companies with that money and quit college

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>>58686823
>>58686832
>unironically expecting mactoddlers to have an ounce of common sense

>>58686860
cant help it anon

>>58686808
Now you know why they're poor while balancing between a job and studies.

>>58686059
>Find me a better laptop for a college student.
a $100 second hand business laptop running windows 7

>>58686860
I have met with Apple users in the real world who were actually not retarded. And many of them, too! I am sure some non-retards use both Apple hardware and the internet.

>>58686335
Oh you're right.
Yeah, its a great college laptop for note taking that will be useless once you get a job.

So spend 4x as much as you need to, because all you really need is a Chromebook.

>>58686059
literally use a desktop and take physical notes

>>58686644
>an i7
a fake, dual-core i7 however

>>58686059
Buy a cheap chromebook, put the rest towards tuition and living expenses. EZ.

>>58686059
What is the 2015 MacBook Pro Retina.

>>58686108
The surface book has a keyboard, as well as it has an i5 versus an M5 processor.

>>58687011
literally lightyears ahead of that 1Mhz m5 turd that makea the shitty thintop hot enough to castrate you.

>>58687053
>literally lightyears ahead
>literally
then it's unattainable for any of us

>os does nothing but chrome

are chromebooks actually good or just a meme?

>>58687066
Just a huge fucking meme. They LITERALLY can't run win32 software, you know that shit that colleges REQUIRE to have.

They're still literally lightyears ahead of fagbooks for things like browsing face book at literally 1/100th of the price though.

what do college students use/need a computer for nowadays?
i'm not that old, i went to college in 2003, and only certain classes even /allowed/ personal computers, most kids didn't have a laptop

>>58687084
>being this old
>still on the chons
Fuckin kekleling @ur life family

>>58687011
Mobile i3/5/7 has always been different to the desktop versions.

>>58687107
there are people older than me here

>>58687107
>there's an age limit for this website
Well, a minimum age limit that you haven't reached yet.

>>58687084
Submitting assignments. I graduated in 2011, and by the end of my degree, I don't think any of my profs would accept hard copies of assignments any more. Soft copies of pretty much everything had disappeared.

That was a degree in commerce, minor in CS. Both sets of profs wouldn't take hard copies. One of my 3rd year business classes had an open book, open laptop, open internet exam. Hell, one of my roommates was taking an art history class and he needed to do that course's exam online, from wherever he wanted.

>>58686059
>Core i5
>480GB SATA SSD
>4GB RAM
>1366x768 16:9 IPS display
>2kg
>3hr battery life
>$200

>>58686059
>Student
>1600$

Since daddy buys you expensive shiny toys when you whine you might as well get a real computer instead of a status symbol.

Can someone explain to me 16:10

Surely if everything is shot on 1080p (16:9) cameras then 16:10 will only distort the image lengthways or am i a retard?

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>>58686059
A very good Chromebook with 1080p screen, m.2 based storage, and a USB port that isn't also the charging port can be had for $300. Little more if you're looking to toss a 128GB microsd card into it.

If you NEED a laptop, Acer, Dell, Asus have all started making sub $350 machines with quad core pentiums, i3's, that all get around 4-5 hours battery life and are much better suited for a college student if Windows is an absolute MUST.

The last thing a college student should be getting is an over priced Facebook machine with a shiny logo on the back.

>>58686059
>buying a meme
>premium meme that's antifunctional
>got to brainfuck college instead of learning
>your memebook doesn't even help your brain to get fucked by safe space police

I sure hope you guys do not.

>>58687242
Don't reply to this

I just realized how much of a retard I am

The screen would just letterbox the top and bottom portion of extra pixels

>implying students need anything else than a thinkpad

Dell latitude 7270 get it from the dell outlet site 'as new' which are units from a large order that didn't go through, amazing little machines.

>>58687243
>If you NEED a laptop, Acer, Dell, Asus have all started making sub $350 machines with quad core pentiums, i3's, that all get around 4-5 hours battery life and are much better suited for a college student if Windows is an absolute MUST.

Links? I cant find any

>>58686059
How about something with an actual keyboard so you can actual type, you know notes in class.

>>58687194
>paying 14k/semester tuition and 700+/month for housing
>too cheap to spend an extra 500 bucks on a computer that will last you 5+ years

I actually kind of want one of these to replace my macbook pro because they are so much lighter and i only weigh ~100 pounds

>>58686059
I can't OP, that's why I have one.

>>58686108
What's the problem, anon? Are you too poor to afford one?

>>58687066
I think you can install Linux on most of them.

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As a graduating senior, I'd take an XPS 15 or Razer Blade over everything else at this point, just because they're pretty much the smallest laptops with quad cores and discrete graphics. It's pretty frustrating not to be able to watch 1080p60 video or do simple stuff in 3d modeling programs on my integrated graphics ultrabook without the tiny fan going crazy and dropping a bunch of frames. I don't play a ton of games anymore either but it would be great to play light titles like dota or csgo at reasonable framerates too while away from the desktop. I'd definitely take a few inches larger footprint and a pound or two of extra weight for the extra computing power of either of the two I mentioned.

Literally a netbook CPU in a $1599 chassis for "professionals" that want to wait 8 hours for a video encode of their latest YouTube video

>>58687494
Apple actually has hardware acceleration on Intel so
I mean it's not great for the money but if money doesn't matter there's little reason to not
The keyboard keeps me away

>>58687519
"Apple has hardware acceleration"

This has nothing to do with Apple, quicksync is on all platforms

And no, you shouldn't use it unless you're trying to be sloppy because it provides lower quality encodes than using the CPU normally

>>58687534
No, not that, actual hardware acceleration.

>>58687544
GPU acceleration I should say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnapaZYD2cU

>https://www.google.com/chromebook/find/acer-chromebook-15/

>$250
>15.6" HD Display
>8.5 hours battery life

Can use crouton to run Linux if need be. A cheap computer that doesn't break the bank. Runs all the essentials (Docs, Slides, Sheets, GMail, Maps, Chrome, etc…)

If you're planning on using a computer for graphics intensive activities like video editing or gaming, then it's not good. If you're just trying to check your email, write essays and do work, it's perfect.

>>58687550
Editing is not encoding.
Nobody edits 4k videos without downsampling proxy anyways.

>>58686301
>and you live a lifestyle where you can definitely go home every night.

Lmfao do you live in Syria?

>>58686175
The surfacebook at that price range has a better processor and display. I'd go with that.

>>58687561
No, that's true, but he's encoding.

>>58687560
WILL die in three years

>>58687584
It's made for the internet. I'm getting fiber so it's literally perfect. Great screen, and it matches my needs (watching YouTube videos on a huge 15.6" screen being probably the most intensive.) I have a mac for at home stuff, but chrome books for lecures, traveling, and sitting in a coffee shop are perfect.

I recently got a surface book around that price. I've had both a mbp 2015 and this thing, and in my opinion the hardware for the surface book is leagues better. The screen is better, the touchscreen is actually useful if you ever have to do any note taking, and the build quality seems better.

But it still uses windshit, but I'd go with a surface book any day over the mbp, especially the newer ones which have the worst keyboard I've ever tried on a laptop

>>58687446
>quad cores
HURRFFF DURRRFFF HRRRRRRNNNGGG
HOW FUCKING STUPID CAN YOU BE

>>58686059
I'm triggered by the cost of this
I bought my whole pc for less
jesus

>>58687654
u mad bro?

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>>58686059
>chicklet keys

>>58687560
>15.6" HD Display
What is this, 2004?

>>58687575
>>58687619
Surfacebook isn't even in the same fucking market as rMB. Even Macbook Air looks gigantic compared to rMB and Surfacebook is even larger and heavier.

Surface 4 is closer but it sucks at being a LAPtop and only worth considering if you really want a touchscreen. Also worse battery life too.

And this is even before Windows cancer comes into play.

>>58686059
I like how they don't even need a logo in that picture. The signature failure of that port arrangement is enough.

>>58687664
But can you take your PC on a intercontinental flight and still have 2-4h left on your battery after you landed?

>>58686091
98% of the world doesnt need better than this.

>>58686059
A laptop that doesn't cost an arm and a kidney perhaps ?

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>>58686059
OP. This is why I don't ask buying advice on /g/ or mention apple ever. Its laughable.
>"I-IT DOESNT HAVE A GAZILLION PORTS YOULL NEVER USE LIKE MY THINKBRICK DOES. A-AND MY THINKBRICK WAS AFFORDABLE ON MUMMYS ALLOWANCE."
Just get the Macbook. These weebs have never seen a business or productivity machine in their life.
News flash guys. A svelte business DELL machine is $1300+ and its got a core m processor (inspiron 13" business model with infinity edge).
You guys just never learn when it comes to someone wanting a specific use for a machine. It can't do everything. If OP wants a simple productivity machine that's light and sharp, good luck finding a better model than a 2015-2016 Macbook.

>>58686059
feed the troll

>>58687084
Pretty much everything is online. Want to enroll into a course? Want to submit an assignment? Want to see what the assignments even ARE? You need to use a computer for all of that.

>>58686059
I just got an ideapad 100s. 150$

a student doesn't "need"anything more capable of doing anything but browsing and word processing and email.

seriously our society is fucking retarded when it comes to assessing luxury vs necessity. god only knows how students before the last 10-15 years managed to survive university.

>>58688618
You are mostly right ... but even as rMB owner I wouldn't necessary recommend it to students because of the no ports thing.

For me it's a non issue because I don't deal with poorfags and use the cloud/or print stuff but for a student ports can be pretty useful to exchange thumbdrives or connect the shit to an old ass projector, and let's be real, dongles are annoying. I'd rather go with 2015 rMBP if I were OP.

>>58688689
A student doesn't "need" a laptop either since a lot of the shit can be done from home or even a shitty library computer. Unless you're ridiculously poor, there isn't much of a difference between 150 or 1500 bucks but a world between the comfort of using one or another.

>>58688729
that's pretty much what I was saying, sans the being poor part.

indeed my family would've never have been able to afford a laptop for me.

There's nothing wrong with a macbook. The specs are mediocre but you are also paying for the small form and light weight. Equivalent ultrabooks like XPS 13 cost just as much and their specs aren't much better either.

Cheap cpus aren't even really much of a con on laptops as long as they are fast enough to get the job done. Having better cpu means sacrificing battery life or portability.

>>58688689
i used my 1994 laptop a few times at school in 2003/4
it was capable of running ms office and could everything it needed to
the only limiting factor was getting data on and off the machine, it had no usb, wifi, or ethernet. and the school mostly used imacs, so there weren't many floppy drives around

>>58688782
(ps. my point is that school work is extremely un-demanding, and i see no reason why a 10 year old machine someone is selling for $20 won't do the job)

>>58688742
>indeed my family would've never have been able to afford a laptop for me
Neither could mine ... luckily jobs are a thing and as a student your expenses are generally low (beyond the crazy priced text books) which can be partly avoided one way or another either way.

>>58688757
A huge part of the price also comes from the great screen and NVMe SSD, Chromebooks are about as portable (but got much worse CPU which you don't notice so much due OS) but pretty horrible screens, which are harder to overlook.

Also Core M is relatively weak, it's sure as fuck isn't cheap and costs about 250-300 by itself.

>>58686059
What kind of student can afford a 1600$ computer?

>>58688971
Apparently half the students in my uni

>>58686936
> once you get a job you will stop having access to power outlets

are you genuinely stupid?

>>58688971
there are 2 major types of people at my uni
every CS major with retarded 17" alienware/razer gaming laptops
the rest of the student population with macbooks plastered with normie greek and/or sports stickers

And I'm here with my thinkpad, maybe I could afford a macbook if my rent was half what it is. I've seen some indian guys at the library with thinkpads but they might just work there.

>all these poorfags who can't afford a MacBook or are too retarded to get a scholarship
If you're doing anything CS you're gonna want OSX with Linux in a VM. Wouldn't touch windows with a 10 foot pole for any serious development work.

>>58689069
>serious development work
>OSX

Unless you're making iPhone apps, you're not going to want OSX for anything.

>>58686181
You are literally trying to justify one usb port in a laptop?

I don't even know what to say man. Some people are just sad.

>>58688709
Completely seriously and not trolling, I got the 13" 2016 Macbook Pro with a single dongle that has a bunch of ports that I keep in my bag. This thing would have been a dream during college. A lot of people (non-tech) could definitely use the regular rMB and keep everything in le cloud maymay. I need more power under the hood because I sometimes have to boot under windows while at home and do some last minute CAD drawings, but its mostly for couch web surfing and fucking around.

>>58689069
>If you're doing anything CS you're gonna want OSX with Linux in a VM.
Why waste your life with OSX lmao.

>>58689069
0/10
richard, we've talked about how you need to drop the class if you object so strongly to developing for windows...

>>58688971
Poorfag here, bred from a poorfag family and coming from a poorfag country into Europe.

Could afford my first laptop when I was 16 and it was around 1.5k. Sure I had pretty much no expenses but it's a lot harder to get any decent job as a kid too. If you can't easy make that money in college, you're doing something wrong, or spending your cash on something else like the anon with crazy rent.

>>58689109
>>58689121
>>58689122
Do software development for a large company. Your choices are either Linux or OSX. Most everyone chooses OSX since Linux means your stuck with some plastic piece of junk thats less stable.

>>58689153
>Do software development for a large company.
I'm sure you're working on real serious software there. Is it iOS apps?

>>58686059
You can pick the asus uxsomething with fullhd, ssd and core m3 for about 600 dollars.

>>58689164
Not sure what your obsession with iOS apps is. Enterprise Java. Here come the meme replies about Java with people shilling their toy languages.

anything chuwi on aliexpress

>>58689190
Coincidentally I'm also working for a large telecom provider that uses Java in the backend and our developers use linux.

>>58689153
depends on what kind of large company. If you're building or maintaining applications for use within a company in healthcare or finance, you are almost certainly working with Java or something within the .NET ecosystem, targeting Windows PCs, in which case you'd better be developing on Windows.

If you're doing pure database stuff, it really depends because no 1 or 2 vendors are dominant.

If you're a web or mobile developer at some kind of startup, mac is popular because it's trendy nowadays, that could easily change in less than a year.

I actually like OSX but the glossy screens on new Mac products make them impossible to use for work, and I've tried. My 2011 model with an anti-glare screen runs like a dream still since I installed an SSD but it'll be my last mac since Apple clearly care more about their products looking good in a store than actually being functional. Fuck glossy screens.

>>58686059
>M5
Might as well buy something with a Atom

>>58686059
I'm fine using my Thinkpad X220.
>i7 CPU
>Amazing keyboard
>8-10 hours of battery life
>Who cares for weight, is your back that weak?
>4GB RAM is more than enough (In fact 1GB of that is oftentimes used for a VM)
>Display gets the job done
>UMTS card for working while commuting
>Fuckton of I/O
>$250

>>58686059
>college student
>$1599
Uh, oh.

>>58686059
How can you afford this while you are in college
>thx dad

I have a actual think pad.
13", 10 hour battery
decent rest.
Half your price.
So better for broken student.

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>(faster) A9X processor
>2732x2048 4:3 display with multi touch and pen support

>>58686059
>i7-6700HQ
>512GB PCIe SSD
>24GB RAM
>2560x1440 on 14"
>around 2kg
>1500€
Paid (as a student) a bit less.

>>58690104
Which laptop and where?

>>58689927
>2011
Try the Retina ones, they are still glossy as fuck but the ridiculous brightness balances it out. Especially the 2016 ones can be used in direct sun light with no fucks given for reflection.

>>58690032
>college student
>no job
Uh, oh indeed.

>>58690104
2kg is quite a bit more, also what about battery life?

>>58686059
>$1599
>8GB RAM
HAHAHAHA. Macfags cucked again

>>58688383
Is this bait?

>>58686059
Dell XPS 13 or Thinkpad X260

>>58686143
Anything that doesn't have Type A is useless for a student. We still depend on USB sticks for a lost of things, you know, and carrying around dongles defies the concept of this laptop.

>>58686059
Razer blade stealth
>More ports
>Real processor
>Good screen

>>58690506
better keyboard though razer has fucked up a bit with their keyboards lately

>>58690502
>and carrying around dongles defies the concept of this laptop
Carrying a laptop weighting more than 1kg doesn't? How about having less than 8h battery life? Kinda a silly arbitrary criteria, mate.

Even with a dongle for that 3-4 times you have to exchange data with people who haven't heard about cloud storage, it's still more portable than most other laptops.

>>58690506
And struggles to get 6h. Also tons of quality issues.

>Real processor
>muh undervolted mobile CPU is more real than your undervolted mobile CPU

>>58690539
>http://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer-Blade-2016-Notebook-Review.186751.0.html
>76% keyboard rating
rMB got 85% if I recall it right.

Muh travel alone doesn't mean it's better.

>>58690545
If you can feel the difference between a 1kg and 2kg laptop in your backpack you must be a real manlet.

>>58686059
Which college student spends $1599 on a laptop?

You should be saving you brainless fuck hole.

>>58686108
Surface Book, not the Surface Pro you illiterate retard

>>58690573
Unless your nerves are fucked, you can easy feel the difference.

>>58686860
Isn't it 'Think DifferentLY'?

>>58687170
>2 kg
>3hr battery life

That's DOA for college students.

>>58690598
dumb murrican ones who leave college with negative dollars

>>58686059
>You can't.
I can, but I know you won't listen you troll.

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>Lenovo yoga X1

>core i7
78% faster than core M5, and without throttling that reduces MB's performance to 70% after 20 mins of work

>512GB SSD
with up to 2200MB/s seq read compared to MB's much slower 1050MB/s

>16GB RAM
twice as much and user upgradeable to 32GB without having to buy an entire new laptop

>2560x1440 OLED
display, each individual pixel can turn off making true blacks instead of just dark greys like pic related, a LCD used on macbooks, vs the OLED on the lenovo yoga x1

MB covers 68% of adobeRGB color standard while the Lenovo covers 98%, the MB coverage is simply pathetic for that price, that inaccuracy has made graphic professional and photographers drop the macbook on the past years

>Mil-SPEC 810G compliant
resistant to shocks, dents, drops, humidity, splashes, while macbook's aluminum body dents on drops, screen cracks from accidents due to weak chassis, and is vulnerable to moisture

>2-in-1
Folds back into tablet mode to enjoy media or to work while carrying it like a tablet, while the macbook, despite being so light, can't be used on the go, you need to it up like any other laptop, defeating the purpose of being so light

>Active pen digitizer
can sketch, make notes and design on the screen with 2048 levels of pressure sensitivity, while the macbook doesn't even have a touchscreen


and not to mention a single port which means you can't do shit with dongles, so you have to carry around at least 3 sets of dongles

Terrible keyboard with no travel

integrated GPU that can't handle 2 monitors without throttling and lagging after 20 mins

no maintainability whatsoever, one problem and you can't fix it yourself, need to send it back to apple and pay hundreds if it's older than 1 year

it's no surprise apple's and everyone's refurbished sections have mostly macbooks, they break down to easily people just send them back to get credit towards a better laptop so you usually find tons of repaired refurbished ones everywhere

XPS.

>>58690562
No, but 0.5mm travel makes it a shit keyboard even if the actuation, noise and feel are all on spot.

>>58689153
Did you know you can install Linux on a Mac?

>>58686059
>needing a laptop for college

>>58686059
>$1599 for 2013 specs
LOLOLOL
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O
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>>58686059
Dell XPS 13
HP Spectre

>>58690851
>user upgradeable to 32GB
Lying on the Internet is bad, kids.

Also the shit barely lasts 5h, so it's worthless either way. The screen is great though.

>>58690865
That's like your opinion, man. Not shared by any reviewer, which is basically the most objective criteria there is for online arguments. Obviously your opinion is perfectly valid but it's dumb to go from "I don't like X" to "X is bad"

Personally I feel the noise is a much bigger problem than the travel, shit is almost as noisy as my desktop one.

>>58690943
>Dell XPS 13
Mostly broken by design.

>HP Spectre
>1080p trash for more than 500 bucks
They must be crazy. Did anyone actually buy it?

Literally any Chromebook with those same specs + USB ports for half the price.

>>58686181
jesus even if you like Apple's products you should be able to admit when they're fucking you

>>58690995

I'll take 1080p over 1440x900 (max support scaled resolution) of a macbook

>>58691015
>max support scaled resolution
Which you can adjust to native or 1200p if you want. Isn't choice great?

>>58690995
>That's like your opinion, man.
No, it isn't. I said "if it fails completely in one criteria, even if all the others are met, it's a shit keyboard". This isn't subjective. You won't enjoy stupendous coffee if I pour a month-old packet of cream on it.

>Not shared by any reviewer, which is basically the most objective criteria there is for online arguments.
No, it isn't. Many subjective views put together don't make up an objective conclusion.

>Mostly broken by design.
Please expand.

>>58691034
>Which you can adjust to native or 1200p if you want. Isn't choice great?

except you can't, and the native res would look too small

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>>58686335
I'm not ok, send help.

>>58686059
xps 13 for 1300
512gb ssd
4k screen
lighter
9 hour battery

>>58691057
also more than 1 port that isn't the charging port kek

>>58690995
>>Dell XPS 13
>Mostly broken by design.
This is your fucking argument? There are a slew of little things you could have nitpicked away but you just say "broken by design"? This is not an argument

>>58690943
>>58690851
>>58690477

pretty much

the macbook was a failure that's why they released a "new model" with the same specs as last year to sell the leftover components and to give a replacement to the people who've had them damaged (the macbook has a return rate for warranty damages 6 times as high as the macbook pro line) the average lifespan of a macbook is just 11 months compared to a macbook pro 29 months

Apple will start selling only the macbook pro's from now on to focus on a single laptop line

>>58691057
The XPS 13 doesn't have a 4k screen, it has a WQHD. The XPS 15 does have 4k.
>lighter
It's not lighter than the Macbook, I think only the Acer Swift 7 is. It does have more ports, it's more powerful, smallers bezels, absurdly better keyboard, much easier to repair, allows you to replace the SSD.

>>58690502

You can get usb sticks with usb c now.

>>58691138
>you can replace all your hardware that works perfectly fine now to accomodate to a dumb design decision
OR I could get a decent laptop.

>>58691138
Or I could just avoid the entire hassle of using fucking dongles and having to rebuy all my storage devices or peripherals that use USB A and get a fucking laptop with both ports so I have the best of both worlds

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>>58686059

yeah maybe if you plan to have it on your desktop 24/7

5 months after the macbook release we began getting them to our store to get them fixed at an incredible rate, and it hasn't stopped until now

mostly screens with grey spots and keyboards that stopped working

it seems that the macbook isn't made to withstand being in a bag without dedicated cushioning

also the heat made it fucks up with the keyboard inner ribbons


in fact for 2016 the macbook pro was the single most laptop we received for fixing, higher than the next 6 laptops, (mostly from asus and acer) combined, and that includes 2016 ones that still have keyboard problems

we check for their warranty, if they have less than 1 year, we send them to apple to have them fixed, otherwise it's a $300-400 fee and we get almost nothing out of that and people still give us shit, that's why we've stopped selling macbooks on out store and only have macbook pro's

hopefully the new macbook pro's won't have this problems

>>58691181
>mostly screens with grey spots and keyboards that stopped working
wouldn't these things be covered on the warranty? I mean even apple products have a 1 year out of the box warranty

>>58691045
>This isn't subjective.
Given the definition of "fails" in this case is "Anon doesn't like it because he likes long travel" it's as subjective as it gets.

>Many subjective views put together don't make up an objective conclusion.
Hence I said "the most objective". If the choice is between some random anons and couple people paid to do their job, it's logical to trust the professionals more, even in alt-truth times. Obviously it doesn't give us the conculsion whether the keyboard is good or not, because you can't do that, only determine the general consensus.

>Please expand.
Outside of the idiotic webcam placement there is the whole gig with auto brightness there is generally erratic behaviour, choppy scrolling, weird fanspeeds, sudden changes with battery capacity, etc, etc. Some of it got fixed with updates, then new shit appears and so on, and so on. Look it up.

>>58691047
But anon, you can. It's a fact. Look up ResFX.

>the native res would look too small
Hence I mentioned 1200p, besides 1440p is still perfectly usable and works better than 1440p on Windows laptops.

Why do people even think you need a laptop for college?
Just use a bloody paper notebook and a pen...

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>>58686590

>>58691193

yes, it's free 1 year from the purchase date + 30 days, after that it costs $300 for the screen, the problem that as official distributors, we only send them back to apple and we don't even get one third of the repair fee, but we still get shit from our customers about how we rip them off and such

with other laptops even if the warranty is expired we fix them for free or usually just the price of the components because that way we get happy customers that buy more stuff from us, but we can't fix macbooks because there's no fucking way to open up that shit and put it back (we've tried)

and all of it because apple wants to sell it's $200 warranty extensions that nobody wants, and surprisingly people who buys those buy the macbook pros which only break down once in a blue moon

>>58691210
>Given the definition of "fails" in this case is "Anon doesn't like it because he likes long travel" it's as subjective as it gets.
Ok, if because you were touched as a child you enjoy half a milimeter of travel, then the Macbook will be a good experience for you. If you're a normal person it won't.

>Hence I said "the most objective". If the choice is between some random anons and couple people paid to do their job, it's logical to trust the professionals more, even in alt-truth times. Obviously it doesn't give us the conculsion whether the keyboard is good or not, because you can't do that, only determine the general consensus.
And the general consensus isn't an objective measure.

>Outside of the idiotic webcam placement
Cutting corners (literally) to achieve the smaller laptop bezel ever.
>there is the whole gig with auto brightness there is generally erratic behaviour
Can be disabled. I did it.
>choppy scrolling
This doesn't happen, I don't even understand how this could be attributed to hardware.
>weird fanspeeds
This doesn't happen (the fan barely ever comes on).
>sudden changes with battery capacity
Lasts a solid 8hours unless I do CPU-intensive stuff regularly.
>etc, etc.
Please continue.

Basically you googled "xps 13 issues" and found a bunch of people complaining about random issues that are either a) a faulty unit or b) lmaoWindows. Meanwhile you missed the #1 xps problem: the whine noise coming from the charger port when it's plugged in (only happens during movies, but it's annoying).

>>58686181

>a single usb port

lmfao put me in the screencap

>>58691357
>If you're a normal person it won't.
Guess all the reviewers got touched as children. An interesting theory but I need some proof first.

>And the general consensus isn't an objective measure.
Because it doesn't exist. There is no objectively good/bad keyboard. Only some that are liked by most and some that are hated by most.

>This doesn't happen, I don't even understand how this could be attributed to hardware.
Trackpad drivers. Since there was an update from Dell, it goes beyond faulty unit.

>auto brightness
Yes the mess is disable-able but the way to do it is way over the fucking top.

>fan speeds
https://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2012/03/21/xps-13-fan-noise-fix/

>battery
Again another non unit related issue, before the update it lasted noticeable less.
http://www.windowscentral.com/dell-xps-13-9360-firmware-update-brings-battery-life-improvements-and-more
(Funny enough it lists couple more issues that are unacceptable from a released product at this price class, so here is your etcs)

>Basically you googled "xps 13 issues"
Nah, read reviews (and complains from other XPS owners here, although some fanboy considered auto shut downs a minor issue, though I guess that one could be lolwindows)

>whine noise coming from the charger port when it's plugged in (only happens during movies, but it's annoying)
Well, I thought it was related to the fan speed management. Given the limited scenarios it doesn't sound as bad as the rest either.

>>58691838
>Guess all the reviewers got touched as children. An interesting theory but I need some proof first.
So the majority of reviewers think the Macbook has a good keyboard? Because I think the best I've read was "you get used to it", which is hardly the same as enjoying it.

>Trackpad drivers. Since there was an update from Dell, it goes beyond faulty unit.
So it's fixed. Not sure why you're using it as an argument then.

>Yes the mess is disable-able but the way to do it is way over the fucking top.
It is, quite literally, downloading a .exe and clicking a button. How is this over the top? Are you joking?

>https://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2012/03/21/xps-13-fan-noise-fix/
Again, does not happen on my unit. I don't know what to tell you.

>Again another non unit related issue, before the update it lasted noticeable less.
>http://www.windowscentral.com/dell-xps-13-9360-firmware-update-brings-battery-life-improvements-and-more
So, it's another fixed issue. How is this "broken by design"? Is an MBP bad because Sierra had bugs on release?

>Well, I thought it was related to the fan speed management. Given the limited scenarios it doesn't sound as bad as the rest either.
It's by far the most common issue to the XPS. It has nothing to do with the fans, so if the complaint you had about "fan speed curve" was this, it's not solveable and it's not OS-dependant (I don't use Windows).

Bottom line: the XPS has issues, like any laptop. I never experienced the ones you mentioned, not even the battery one, except for the "fan curve" which isn't from fans at all. This does not equal "broken by design", especially when almost all have been fixed.

>>58691246
Laptops are basically a requirement for most classes these days, plus you type faster than you write. Ironically they're basically useless for math courses though.

>>58692015
>So the majority of reviewers think the Macbook has a good keyboard?
Some say it's good, some say it needs getting used to and feels weird, there was literally not a single one (I know off) calling it bad. It's unlikely that anyone will fanboy about it as if it's the T430 but it's simply not a bad keyboard and much better than the naked number for travel distance suggests. Doesn't mean you have to like it or anything but it's silly to push own preferences so hard when it comes to a discussion.

>This does not equal "broken by design", especially when almost all have been fixed.
Almost all of the issues happened with previous models too, so there is clearly something fucking wrong going on at Dell. And sure the big stuff got mostly fixed or can be fixed by downloading an exe (aka. you have to act because Dell didn't manage or didn't want to include basic functionality) but it's a pretty shitty state to release a premium priced laptop. Obviously issues are given with any product but the amount of them before the fixes is pretty rare, especially given that the very same shit happened with their previous model and had to be fixed there.

Also the whole "didn't happen for me" is not a great argument given how the problems were acknowledged by Dell with firmware updates and not just singular cases where users had problems, guess you were lucky enough to get it after the updates or something.

>Is an MBP bad because Sierra had bugs on release?
If it worked fine with El Capitan, Sierra would be the issue and not the MBP. Think the biggest issue from the new Macbooks was wifi dropping when connecting some usb c dongles, which is a dumb oversight but not as bad as most of the XPS things because it needed a specific combination of devices, so won't affect too many users.

>>58686590
it's 10 hours when you have it in sleep mode and airplane mode and keep it at room temperature.

>>58692495
>http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/macbook
Apple is actually pretty honest with their battery estimates. Of course it's going to vary based on settings and usage but 9:38 seems fair to me.

>>58686059
Used macbook pro 2012 model.
Upgrade with a ssd of your choice and add 16gb ram and you got a good college computer. i did this with my mb i got for 400$+160$ and it's going to last me a couple of years.

>>58690717
this is true. Battery life is necessary and top priority for me as a uni student

Can this paperweight even run AutoCAD?

>>58686059
x220 Thinkpad

>>58692315
>be STEM major
>have basically very little humanities classes but shit ton of math and physics
>laptop is basically pointless but when you need one it has to be top spec to run the necessary engineering programs

>be inner city transgender feminist major
>have very little math but shit ton of humanities
> absolutely need a laptop but can be a 99 dollarydoo chromebook.

>>58686664

Do you have any idea how many Macbooks I see on my university campus every day? I'll give you a hint: a fucking lot.

>>58686778

I paid $1450 for a CTO Macbook Air in mid-2013, and I don't regret it one bit. I've been using it daily for almost four years now -- at times, it was my only computer -- and it shows no significant signs of wear whatsoever aside from battery fatigue and some small dings on the corner where I dropped it.

It's not grinding to a halt, new OSes don't run like shit on it, it's not developing mysterious problems. Literally the only thing wrong with it is that the battery doesn't have an infinite number of charge cycles, which is true for anything. And, a year or so from now, when the battery life gets low enough to be an actual inconvenience (it started out being 12-16 hours, is now more like 6-8), I'll take it to the Apple Store and get the battery replaced in 24 hours for $99. And then, if I'd like, I can keep on using it for *another* four years.

tl;dr 9/10 product, would buy again.

>>58687083

You know, I'm a compsci major with a three-year-old Macbook Air that has a Windows VM perma-installed for fringe situations that actually require it. I'd disagree. Macbooks are awesome.

>>58687151

This is a good thing. Hard copies are bullshit. They waste paper, they waste space, they waste ink (more valuable than plasma!), you have to physically transfer them around, and you need a special machine just to make a fucking copy.

>>58687494

If you are a "professional", your only means of encoding/transcoding a video is not going to be your laptop, no matter what it is.

>>58689039

I'm a CS major, and I have too much self-respect to be one of those trenchcoat-wearing Asperger Kings carrying around the fucking desktop-replacement laptops. God, those guys are cringey.

>>58687057
Are you being retarded on purpose?

Just get a thinkpad

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>>58686590
>I don't know how many hours are in a day

is this what they're teaching you at clown school?

>>58694495
Are you constantly out and about

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>>58694438
t. mactoddler

>>58694527

Say what you want, but I paid $1450 3.5 years ago for a laptop that's been good the whole time, and I could still probably turn around and sell it for ~$900 if I wanted to. Pretty hard to argue with that.

>>58694495
10 hours is more than a full day of work. "All day" doesn't mean "literally every waking hour".

>>58694662
I'm awake, and shitposting, 16 hours a day.

>>58694679

Are you walking around with your laptop in a Typing-of-the-Dead-style harness that holds it out in front of you all the time so you can shitpost?

No?

Then you can find a fucking power outlet at some point, you obtuse mongoloid. Hell, even the hypothetical ToTD harness can have a spare battery on it.

>>58694495
All day usually means a "work day" which tends to last 8h around the world.

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>>58686590
Stop, you are making us look stupid.

>>58687083
Chrome OS is Unix-like. Why would you expect it to run win32 applications?

>>58694438
>It's not grinding to a halt, new OSes don't run like shit on it, it's not developing mysterious problems. Literally the only thing wrong with it is that the battery doesn't have an infinite number of charge cycles
Pretty much same experience with my old Air from 2012.

Gave it to my sister two years ago, and she's horrible with computers and managed to fuck up the Windows laptop (about the price of the Air and not cheap shit) I gave her before that in a similar period of time (malware, slowdowns, broke keyboard, fan went crazy) … the Air still runs like from day 1 if not faster thanks to Sierra and even Adobe CS stuff works fine on 4GB of RAM, and outside of one little dent she didn't even manage to fuck up the hardware.

>>58694627
>lost $550
>hard to argue with that

LMAO
M
A
O

Wait 16:10?

What laptop is that?

>>58694836
Oh it's a shitbook nvm

>>58686059
Not even mac fanboys hipsters defend this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNd5_kxpPc4

Thats what happens when you put marketing nerds in control of a tech industril, not even hipster like whats happening with that brand. Steve was right

>hur dur ma computer cost me 1500$ must be very fast hurd dur

Marketing whores see that the product does well because of this rich kids buying everithing they throw at them and cause that they dont se incentive to upgrade it

>>58694851
>that ginger numale

ughhhhhh

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>>58694662
>"all day" doesn't mean "all day"
if they meant to say that the battery lasted all day they would've emphasized it

>>58694895
>lol, I only pretend to be retarded ;^)

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>>58694910
well at least you admitted it

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>>58694895
You mean like this?

>>58690707
No.

>>58686059
>College
>Buying a $1599 laptop
Considering the cost of student loans in your country, buying a MacBook may not the brightest idea. Not to mention the dongles.

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>>58695038
I highlighted where it said it got all day battery life

>>58695136
Are you actually blind?

>>58695136
kek

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>>58695156
how would I read and highlight it if I was blind?

>>58695127
Just the opposite actually, he's going to be couple Ks in minus either way, might as well not take chances and missing course work because his cum encrusted used ThinkPad shit itself or getting cucked by Windows update during writing a thesis.

>>58686091
Wrong, a 150$ t430 is better than all of the above.

>>58686108
>can't even be bothered to check his reply for facts

Hate to tell you anon, but I'm confident that you have a serious case of autism

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>>58686108
>t. mactoddler

>>58686059
Just get the 2015 MBP.

>>58686059
https://puri.sm/products/librem-13/

>>58695722
>just get a throttling piece of shit that can barely outpace a core 2 duo

>>58695607
>Either lower resolution screens or lower power hardware increases battery life
Thanks for stating the obvious.

>>58686059
>find me a better laptop

>anything that's actually affordable?

>>58695790
>4x more powerful hardware and better battery life is "lower power"

Mactoddlers everyone.

>>58695814
>Combine a low resolution panel with the equivalent hardware
>LOOK MORE BATTERY MACFAGS BTFO

>>58695956
>a mactoddler has defended his 2hourbook

>>58695956
Sad thing is that even with lower res screen they still suck at realistic battery test.

>>58695975
wanna know how I know you're fat?

>>58695607
How will mactoddlers ever recover?

>>58695607
Why is macos so utter fucking shit at battery management?

>>58686816
>>58686816
more powerful

>>58686644
yeah but you can throw that Windows piece of crap directly into the thrashcan.
its exactly like two guys trying to fuck a lady, one is buffed and has a huge dick and the other one know how to fuck the girl
the girl obviously chooses the second one
its basically the same comparison with windows and macOS

>>58695975
>Run a max load application until battery is dead
>Surprised that it dies quickly
It gets an almost identical score to the equivalent xps 13.

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>>58696068
>t. mactoddler

>>58696068
wanna know how I know you're fat?

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>2017
>going to college with a laptop that doesn't have note taking capabilities
>using pen and paper like a caveman

>>58696091
>poorfag forgot to cut the part where it says 11h is the most realistic scenario
Are you secretly an Apple shill working with reverse psychology or something?

>>58686059
Get a used laptop for like, $150 and that will serve the average college student fine.

>>58696167
>20% smaller battery than throttlebook
>20% longer battery life than throttlebook

MACTODDLERS LITERALLY ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>58696091
>Not pictured: the thinkpad's, most likely 1366x768, screen being half the brightness of the macbook's

>>58696132
wanna know how I know you're fat?

>>58696194
2 rupees have been deposited in your iTunes account mactoddler.

>>58696189
>shit screens last longer than good ones
Fucking shocking.

ITT people justify buying a laptop that costs the price of 3 running cars, that only has 1 USB port and is slower than hardware from 2006 for some laughable reason

>>58696347
wanna know how I know you're fat?

>>58696194
>>58696247
>not pictured
>throttlebook throttles to 800mhz so you may as well buy a $50 laptop from 2008 that gets the same performance

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>>58696385
I'm really skinny and underweight though anon...

>>58688805
>as a student your expenses are generally low
hahahaha do you know what rent is? what about food or tuition? good luck having a social life either
are you retarded college is just a job you don't get paid for

>>58696347
>he would buy a car for 500 bucks
>he thinks Core M is actually slow
Maybe you need to eat more indeed, your brain is clearly not getting enough nutrients.

>>58686059
>those specs
>$1599
Hahahahaha

>>58696475
>tuition
Not something to worry about before you finish.

>rent
The lowest you'll ever have in your life sans moms basement.

>food
Very manageable, especially if you live with room mates (aka. dirt cheap rent) and can buy in bulk.

>good luck having a social life either
Pretty easy to balance out too unless you have to get wasted every weekend and do drugs every day.

Also it's so damn easy to get a job as a student, hell, you'll easy make enough money for any laptop in 3 weeks as an intern.

>>58696641
I wouldn't buy a car for $500 because I have money from not buying $1600 laptops with $300 of hardware, but several people I know have bought $500 cars that have lasted years.

One friend has a $500 geo metro 3cyl manual that he gets 50mpg in and my neighbor has had a $500 Chevy cavalier that's lasted 2 years of pizza delivery without anything besides the basics needing work

>>58696763
Haha what, where I live rent is jacked up and expensive around the university. If you are a student you pay like $600/mo to live with niggers making gorilla noises constantly, limited internet, visitor curfews and retards stealing your shit.

Living alone in my apartment is cheaper than college student rent, and they will not rent these apartments to students because they fucking destroy them by being children.

>>58696429
nice baggy jeans sk8er boi

>>58696429
They're carnhart loose fit carpenter pants. There is no tight or baggy version, just because they aren't skinny faggot jeans that effectively shrink my balls and reduce testosterone doesn't mean they're baggy.

>>58696913
The SSD costs more than that.

>>58696984
Uhhh... If you're paying $300 for a 500gb SSD you're doing something horribly wrong. Good ones are $200 or less pretty much any day of the week

>>58696979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIy3n2b7V9k

>>58697045
https://youtu.be/o8_XXgeskd8

>>58697002
It uses a PCIe SSD which is both faster and more expensive than your run of the mill SATA SSD.

>>58697080
Yes, this might have been amazing in 2015 but we have m.2 slots connected to pci-e and nvme SSDs for those are still under $300

And they're serviceable/upgradable.

>>58686312
this. you can't fucking do anything on it except web browse

it's basically chromebook for girls

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>>58686239
>>58691362
>>58689119
>>58686612
>>58691253
>>58694495
>>58694769

>>58686644

I bought the Dame thing with 16gb ram and 512gb ssd for 1100.

>>58696913
>$300 of hardware,
The screen with that quality alone is not available at devices cheaper than 1.3k, and Core M costs 300 bucks, so yeah but no.

>but several people I know have bought $500 cars that have lasted years.
Sure, can happen. Dad of my friend did it, a nice Golf 4 from a granny who barely used it. Generally speaking it's still a shitty idea and if you're not too wasteful with your money, you can have a nice car and a nice 1600$ laptop.

>>58696941
Point being that there are tons of different options and affordability-wise college life is as cheap as it gets. Obviously you can pick a more comfy one and perhaps even safe some cash but shit won't get any easier from now on.

>$600/mo to live with niggers making gorilla noises constantly
Kek. Cali?

Though first time I am hearing complains about Internet limits.

>>58697147
You can do pretty much everything you'd do on any other laptop sans gaming, unless it's a huge workstation replacement. /g/ ignorance about the based Core M is disgusting. It's literally the perfect mobile CPU.

>vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnapaZYD2cU

>>58697305
>being this cucked
lol

>>58686091
>acer
90% of college students need their laptops to last at least 3 years.

>>58697305
>/g/ ignorance about the based Core M is disgusting. It's literally the perfect mobile CPU.
Not even just /g/, consumers in general. Companies have been hesitant to make Core M machines because normies are too attached to the "Core i" branding. Intel is trying to work around this by rebranding them with the Y suffix though.

Although I wish there were some options that weren't going for maximum thin. I'm down with the low power and fanless factor but the lack of ports and average battery is disappointing for me. Slap a core M in an x260 and adjust the battery to take up the free room so the extended option sits flush and I'd be all over that.

>>58697426
Core M with fan would be pretty interesting t.b.h., since it'd could run at max load all the time and be the perfect combination of good enough performance and godly battery life.

Though Intel didn't help with the pricing for it, for same price you could get a 15W core i5 and people want dem big ghz number ... which was Intels fault in the first place for creating the meme.

>>58686059
>Core M5 processor
>$1600
>Find me a better laptop for a college student.

Literally everything. Hell, even an iPad Air 2 / Samsung Galaxy tab S2 + keyboard would be better

>>58697501
I think the let's note that /g/ likes to masturbate to has a Core M with a fan on it. I don't think the benefit at continuous load would be worth it though.

I also wish the x2XX series would drop 2.5" drive support in favour of m.2 honestly.

>>58694832

>laptop only depreciated ~30% over four years
>LOL LOL LOL MACFAG BTFO

Stay retarded.

>>58686913
yeah i know some people who have legitimate reasons for using MAC computers. i also know some fucking retards who dont know better and who refuse to learn otherwise. i once saw a dude who owned a macbook choose to convert the tv show we were watching so he could watch it with quicktime. we told him that VLC would play the file without the need to spend hours converting it and he refused to use VLC regardless of how much logic we tried to use.

>>58697612
>t. mactoddler

>>58697586
>I don't think the benefit at continuous load would be worth it though.
Well, it would ensure that there won't be any issues if someone wants to do some things that need constant load, besides basically any fan would do, so it's not like it'd take too much space from the battery. x260 without any adjustments to fan/battery would already get crazy battery life with Core M. Since the fan and cooling can be made more compact, it could further go into ridiculous dimensions.

Even on the Macbook with 38W or so battery and power hungry screen it lasts 4-5h at heavy load.

>I also wish the x2XX series would drop 2.5" drive support in favour of m.2 honestly.
Well, the next revision might do it. m.2 adaption didn't take that long for most. Though lack of 16:10 option is a bigger issue for me and it's beyond unlikely that they will change it.

>>58697769
>he refused to use VLC regardless of how much logic we tried to use
B-but why?

>>58697794
X270 specs are already out, only thing new is it has a USB-C port.

13" rMBP

if you want a machine that will do basic stuff well for a really long fucking time then a macbook might be what you need. frankly theyre better built than most windows machines.

if you dont know how to use VMs and various third party programs then macs arent for you. also if you play a lot of hardware intensive games then macs are not for you.

>>58697769
>>58697794
we were trying to watch a tv show at his place and instead wound up sitting there staring at the fucking conversion progress bar. i waited until he got up to go to the bathroom installed VLC and got our show up and running. when he came back he thought the file conversion had just gone strangely fast. for two whole episodes

>>58697794
>Though lack of 16:10 option is a bigger issue for me and it's beyond unlikely that they will change it.
Seems like a 3:2 option would be more likely at this point. That seems to be more popular nowadays

>>58697930
But why was he even so spergy about it in the first place? If he even knows what converting files means, he can't be completely technologically retarded.

>>58697960
3:2 would be great too, but probably almost as unlikely. Maybe MS can do something against the 16:9 trend if their next Surfacebook turns out amazing, and sells amazingly.

>>58698020
If all the years of Apple sticking with 16:10 didn't alter the market at all neither will Microsoft using 3:2. Unless they start offering OEMs an incentive to.

>>58696763
>>58696941
does everyone who go to uni/college live away from home or something? maybe im lucky and happen to live close to a few good unis so didnt even need to pay rent lmao

>>58698214

My dad moved with me, because he was away from home so often that he didn't really have a use for a house after I moved out.

But yeah, shitloads of people move out of town for college.

>>58696063
lolnope, you underestimate how badly fagbooks overheat and thermal throttle.

A 2.35 Ghz 4-core active Snapdragon 820 is going to shit all over a 500 MHz 2-core core-m processor any day.

>>58699781
You're so wrong it's not even funny.

>>58687084
I needed autocad to pass "тechnical drawing" class........das about it really!

>>58686059
>better laptop for college student
>$1599
Something that is fucking cheaper ?

what's a 200 dollar laptop with ten hours + battery life?

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>>58704974

Spectre x360 face down ass up = hottest tech porn I've ever seen.

>>58686059
macbook air is cheaper ;-;
and better

>college for engineering
>use linux on a thinkpad
>embedded systems class
>forced to install proprietary Windows-only IDE for processor we're using
>"oh well I'll just install Windows and then go back to linux when it's over"
>everything works perfectly

>meanwhile the one guy in class with a Macbook is totally FUCKED for basically the entire class because nothing works right no matter how many Windows VMs he tries to run

>>58686059
Most students will do fine with a $300 Chromebook

>>58686059
>M5
>No fucking ports
>Can't replace anything if shit goes wrong

How is this even an option for a college student?

>>58694832
I don't even know how to argue against this it is too poorly thought out.