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>https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/tweet-this-trump-white-house-has-potential-info-security-woes-abound/
> it appears that Press Secretary Sean Spicer has at least twice so far posted his password to his official White House Twitter account

you voted for this, america
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it's merely an alternative authentication method
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>>58666430
Trump is the tard wrangler, he's not responsible for others fuckups.
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>>58666458

That's Tard in Chief to you.
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>>58666430
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>>58666430
/g/ - t̶e̶c̶h̶n̶o̶l̶o̶g̶y̶ politics
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>>58666474
America is so free our government officials give out their passwords.
AMERICA FUCK YEAH!
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>>58666430
Hey as a victimized white male I had no choice but to vote Trump in the hope that he will make my life less painful.
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>>58666430
People think thats his password. Actually that is just another incomprehensible statement from the white house that Trump told him to make.
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>>58666517
freedom aint free
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What did he mean by this?
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>>58666430
>the media is so determined to find any article to twist against Trump they latch onto meaningless twitter spam
>retards like you regurgitate and shill it on 4chan
please tell me you get paid at least op
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>>58666540
You're not on leddit now mate...
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the question is: how did he manage to do that?
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>having 8 characters password
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>>58666858
itsameme
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>>58666858
Best case he clicked on the wrong thing to type in
bad case he thought the tweet box was a login box
worst case who the fuck knows, the fact that he's given out the method of password generation is bad enough
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>>58666858
I doubt he did. Somebody probably gained access to his computer and is fucking around with him.
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>>58666904
62^8 is still like 14 zeroes, and I doubt China's going to dedicate supercomputer time to compromise a twitter account.
The real question is how many other places is this generation method used? I should hope not in any secure ones, but that's hopefully safe to say.
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>>58666430
AYYYYYYY LMAO
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>>58667035
me on the right
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What did he mean by this?
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>>58666430
>We have the best cyber
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>>58666947
The number of floating point operations a mid-range GPU can do a second has about 12 zeros behind it. Of course you can't just toss a suspicious number of guesses to twitter server, or even send that many authentication requests at a decent rate. But still, 8 characters(non-hashed) is not supercomputer territory.

>The real question is how many other places is this generation method used?

Without enough samples to analyze I don't think the generation method is at risk.

Ideally they used a small amount of radioactive material(like a check source) and a CCD sensor for random data. Which is pretty fucking secure.

I hear they're easy to make. Just a sensor from a webcam, and some tiny amount of radioactive material(from a smoke detector for example) will light up random pixels. It generates truly random data very quickly, if done correctly.
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>>58666799
>nobody could possibly disagree with me without being paid to do so!!!

gb2 your safe space
>>>/pol/
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>>58666771
Probably left the Twitter app open and random pocket input.
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>>58666444
HOW HAS NOBODY CHECKED THESE DIGITS YET?!
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>>58667862
exactly this

why do so many fucking people go "WOW HE POST PASSWORD?!?! HAHA REPUBLICANS"

it's almost robotic at this point
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>>58667862
>>58668165
>being this idiot
kys
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>>58666430
>>58666430
Fake news

They provide no proof it's his password, just speculation because some "hacker" said it the RNC had bad security online.

They then go on to imply that Trump's deleted tweets before he was president are illegal because of presidential retention laws. He also tries to hint that use of RNC emails are illegal but not at the same time and implies they use "unmanaged" devices which is illegal.
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>>58666430
I personally did not vote for the human Cheeto but my fellow country men are not so enlightened.
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>>58668594
You have to go back.
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What the fuck is Sean Spicers endgame? Ive never seen such a big fuckup whitehouse press sec.
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>>58666938
Baron Trump probably did that
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>>58666858
He thought he was logged the fuck out

https://youtu.be/-DN1TIDZPH4?t=1m18s
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>>58668165
>it's almost robotic at this point
Goes for both sides. Politics on a global scale has just devolved into "Look at how ridiculously stupid and funny those other guys are!"
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>>58666477
>t̶e̶c̶h̶n̶o̶l̶o̶g̶y̶
stop mr hacker
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Maybe it's a one time pad encrypted message
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>>58668332
>He also tries to hint that use of RNC emails are illegal but not at the same time and implies they use "unmanaged" devices which is illegal.
Given that Trump made Hillary Clinton's insecure email practices a major part of his campaign, it's at the very least odd that his staff isn't using best practice secure services.
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>>58669208
8 characters long?
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>>58669422
f a g g o t s
he's playing the long game
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>>58666531
Larping as an oppressed minority?
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>>58666430
Baghdad Bob is looking good these days.
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>>58669169
This is q fact, and it's tragic
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>>58668919

Just wait for the rest of these clowns to start doing things. Perry didn't even know about the nuclear stockpile or the national labs. Giuliani is probably gonna switch some major websites to joomla and WordPress then mandate that all government contractors do the same.
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>>58669169

Yah but it's usually true for Republicans
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>>58666947
>He's never heard of a rainbow table
Hahahaha
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>>58670681
>dibs bedora
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Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.
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>>58671352
>rainbow table
We're talking about guessing passwords, not reversing hashes.
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doesn't snowden do something similar with his twitter? I can't remember what it's for.
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At least is not yahoo.
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>>58666430
An idiot acts like an idiot? How shocking. Though what's the point of pointing it out? Trump fanboys got a reality distortion field and will find some alternative facts while blaming someone else and normal people won't be surprised. It's too late to change anything so just sit back and enjoy the show.
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>>58672864
It actually is kind of addicting in a way. Everything is so comical from day one.
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>>58673012
Yeah, in a way I am impressed. So far they managed to say or do something facepalming every single day and even when something positive like killing the TTP happened, it was balanced out by the plans to murder net neutrality.
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>>58673043
>plans to murder net neutrality.
We never had it in the first place
Why is everybody so concerned over this?
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>>58666444
kek, and checked
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>>58669717

>minorities in america
>oppressed

Lmaooooo
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>>58666444
fpbp
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>>58673056
Because last couple years there were some positive developments and attempts, and it generally became a topic of discussion and got some attention, support from big players like Google and so on. With someone decent in charge it would most likely happen but yeah.
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>>58670681
>usually true for republicans

hmmm. it goes both ways
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>>58670662

>wordpress

Jesus Christ...Wordpress and its plpugins constantly show up on the Open Source Security mailing list.

Like this shit for example: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q1/199
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>>58666913
my question is what was he doing between login attempts for 6 minutes
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>>58673150
googling
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>arstechnica
try posting a link to a site that hasn't outed itself as a left wing shill blog
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The left is quibbling over petty shit like this while the God Emperor is actually getting shit done.

I love it. Never seen them break down so hard. 8 years!
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>>58666430

Hahahahahahah

America was always a bit of a joke, but, we all laughed at America behind its back - much like the big dumb bully at high school.

Now, the country is an international laughing stock.
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>>58673253
>Surely this time, people will stop caring about America!
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>>58673188
>left wing

I guess you're one of this "alt-reality" types.
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>>58673253
Just nobody will be laughing if the fucktard backs down from the Paris agreement.
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>>58671412
What did he mean by this
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>>58666938
Yeah you're right no one in Daddy Trump's administration can do wrong. It was the libruls.
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>>58673268
You know I heard on reddit that fucktard is very popular in India
Now, are you just a regular underaged shitposter, a clever shitposter, or an actual Pajeet?
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>>58673211
Yeah its not like Trump is quibbling over petty shit by ordering a fake investigation so he can "disprove" that most americans actually voted against him. Or telling everyone his empty-tumbleweed-field inauguration had the "biggest crowd ever".

What Trumpwits dont get is that we dont actually give a shit about the size of the crowd or vote count or whatever. Who fucking cares that it was small. What matters is that the president is willing to blatantly lie to the entire country for no reason other than to soothe his own pathetic ego. The man we need to trust most of all is showing himself to be a feckless weakling.
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>>58673267
>using the phrase 'left wing' is now alt-right terminology
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>>58673356
Lol no you're mad as fuck and trying to get him on petty shit while he gets things done
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>>58666430
There is no difference between an american dev and a pajeet coder.
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>>58667823
Btfo
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>>58673300

The far right groups in India love him.
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>>58673582
Indians despise pakis so its reasonable the right groups in India will sympathize with a man who hates mudslime terrorists
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>>58673300
>I heard on Redditch
>Calls the other guy a shitposter
Wtf is going on
>>58673582
The far right is as despised in India as trumpturds are in retardica
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>>58673676
The government and their shills do, the average guy or girl in India worships Pakis
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>>58673445
Indian engineers are better than american ones, that's the difference.
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>>58673696
Nice try paki
No one like you, even paki hate paki
Fucking paki think he's hot shit
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>>58673582
The whole world has gone batshit mad.
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>>58673707
I'm the guy who you replied to.
i*ndian "humans" make shitty engineers.

>>58673722
>Being a street shitter is ((ANY)) better
Sanjay my son...
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>>58673582
POO'D
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>>58673679
>Wtf is going on
The other guy's from reddit.
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>>58666858

he's triggering mainstream media by using very low effort bait.

surprisingly effective KEk
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>>58673358
>calls a tech web site "left wing", expects to be taken seriously...
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>>58673927
>bias doesn't exist
Holy shit lmao
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>>58673295
If he was so retarded he thought this was how to log in, I doubt he would have been capable of changing his password.
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>>58674058
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe he accidentally found the option. Or asked for help.
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>>58673582
Who cares what these street shitters admire. They don't even have enough brain cells to determine where to defecate. Brainlet curry niggers.
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>>58674099
I have difficulty believing anyone could be this stupid. It's more likely he installed a rat on his computer.
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>>58666444
LEL
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>>58673927
>>58673356
>>58673300
Back to Plebbit
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>>58674043
>bias

Arstechnica doesn't have a political editorial.

This isn't a matter of opinion, this is a matter of fact.

I know "facts" are incredibly unfashionable right now, but, the use of "alt-facts" has no place on /g/. If you want to talk bullshit, go back to /pol/.
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>>58666430
Just encrypted communication with his KGB bosses
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>>58674970
Ars Technica has Annalee Newitz who supports Twitter's ban on hate speech and censorship.
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>>58674990
I stopped reading ars because of this guyish human. I would really love an unfiltered and opinion free newsfeed that solely bases articles on facts, but that's almost impossible to find nowadays.
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>>58674970
Friendly reminder:
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/addressing-allegations-of-collusion-among-gaming-journalists/
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>>58669169
>Politics on a global scale has just devolved into "Look at how ridiculously stupid and funny those other guys are!"
And it's not only in America. Did the internet cause this?
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>>58675056
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: In a way
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>>58667823
Kill yourself soros shill
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Whites, at least Retardican whites, are done, this was their last whimper before mediocrity and oblivion. Pretty funny how they are pinning all their hopes on a fat spastic who is literally being led by the nose by Zionist trash like Bannon and the ex Jewman Sachs people. What else can you expect from retards who got by because of a slight technological advantage?
Sorry white pigs, the rest of the world has caught up now and we're going to be kicking your shit in like we used to until the last couple of hundred years. Even your 'God' Kek is some Sumerian thing.
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>>58674145
>Mom, I posted it again! I'm gonna show these curries who's boss. NO I CANT LOOK FOR A JOB THIS IS IMPORTANT
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>>58666444
Actually, that's probably literally true: it's prob. the password reset authentication twitter sends your phone, maybe from people trying to reset his acct?
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>>58666444
>>58666458
>>58666474
>>58666477
>a board which is made up of people who don't actually understand technology, but pretends to, is full of left-wing-leaning parasites
Who would have thought? kys neets.
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>>58675166
>Whites, at least Retardican whites, are done, this was their last whimper before mediocrity and oblivion. Pretty funny how they are pinning all their hopes on a fat spastic who is literally being led by the nose by Zionist trash like Bannon and the ex Jewman Sachs people. What else can you expect from retards who got by because of a slight technological advantage?
>Sorry white pigs, the rest of the world has caught up now and we're going to be kicking your shit in like we used to until the last couple of hundred years. Even your 'God' Kek is some Sumerian thing.
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>>58674970
>Read bias political article masquerading as legitimate tech news by bias political journalist
>claims are speculation, misleading and completely nonfactual
>Read it and see it mocks Trump
>Instantly believe every implied implication in it
>Mock opponent's for being "those stupid alt-reality types"
Really made me think.
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>>58666444
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>>58666444

WITNESSED
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>>58666444
Toppest kek
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>>58666947
>2017
even if aliens dedicate their supercomputer time to bruteforce twitter, you would think they have some anti-brute timeouts or sth?
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Its a cripplechan /pol/ ID or tripcode pass.
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>>58666430
>posted his password
Since when did random text suddenly become a password?
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>>58668919
If this guy is a known retard, every hacker will try to hack his accounts instead of anyone else's. He's taking the hit so nobody bothers trying to hack Donald Trump's Twitter page and post "@china i declare war lmao"

Truly, Sean Spicer has given up his dignity in the name of world peace. Who among us can truly say they would make the same sacrifice?
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Yeah its not like Trump is quibbling over petty shit by ordering a fake investigation so he can "disprove" that most americans actually voted against him. Or telling everyone his empty-tumbleweed-field inauguration had the "biggest crowd ever".

What Trumpwits dont get is that we dont actually give a shit about the size of the crowd or vote count or whatever. Who fucking cares that it was small. What matters is that the president is willing to silence scientist trying to publish there works that was paid for with tax payer money.
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>>58679840
Cutting government funding isn't hiring hit squads to assassinate climate scientists. Fucking drama queens.
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>>58673356
>>58679840

>>58666430
So what was posted on his Twitter after releasing his "password"? Surely someone would be immediately on that if it was actually his password, or at least attempt a log in.
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>>58679840
>What matters is that the president is willing to silence scientist trying to publish there works that was paid for with tax payer money.

And yet you and the news are more concerned with covering a BuzzFeed "leak" about golden showers,
how the inauguration was empty and "tumbleweed-filled',
how racist he was for wanting to enforce existing laws,
how evil he is for repealing TPP (something the democrats have always supported),
how homophobic he is despite being pro LBGT since the 80's,

I could go on but you get my point.

The news is bias as fuck.
CNN/MSNBC have turned into FOX.
I never supported Trump and now i'm defending him because it would be wrong not to.
Trump will get away with whatever he wants now because of all this bullshit.
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>>58675639
>/pol/
>understanding politics
I'm sorry your waifu turned out to be as retarded as everybody thought he was, but thats no reason to lash out senpai
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>>58679917
Cutting government funding is one thing (even if its the wrong choice). Telling NASA EPA NPS that they cant even tweet about studies that are already finished and ready to be released. its so bad that actors in the organizations are making fake accounts to subvert thees rules.

>>58680013
>And yet you and the news are more concerned with covering a BuzzFeed "leak" about golden showers...

You post as if I'm part of the corporate media. I am an individual who reads opinions on 4chan and Reddit and likes to read into the accusations made on thees websites. I like to fact check them. I have no interest in any of the things you said I did.
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what do you guys think? trump gets a heart attack within the next two years?
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>>58680013

this

you could have not voted for trump but still understand the media is a bunch of high school drama queens who try to manipulate the minds of the people and push their agenda. It's disgusting. That whole election red pilled me.
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>>58667862
>>58668165
Exactly 8 characters each time. Managing to hit enter with your ass is no easy feat either. Also who the fuck puts their phone in their pocket without locking it?

>/pol/ on suicide watch
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>>58680103
i've done it on accident once and it even called someone from a completely unrelated screen
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>>58680091
But most Libs don't care about any of this petty shit. We have never bought into the medias half truths. Most of the big movements that progressives and Libs have worked for have gotten no coverage by the mainstream media. Stopping CISPA, Free and fair elections, Bernie Sanders campaign all progressive moments that the corporate media refused to cover.

Pointing out legitimate concerns about trump is not being a shill for the media.
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I'm really surprised why people think it's more likely he's randomly tweeting out passwords rather than pocket tweeting or drunk tweeting.

Especially since he's probably fairly computer savvy, given that he's a confirmed /pol/ack
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>>58680172
>But most Libs don't care about any of this petty shit
Sadly that's not how the media portrays it.

>Bernie Sanders
I initially liked what he had to say but then he went full SJW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYFO5fiPfP0

The democrats need a Trump, but Bernie is not it.
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>>58680202
>computer savvy
>confirmed /pol/ack
One does not imply the other. He's probably a dumb phoneposter, too.
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>>58680242
Jim Webb was our last hope but he was too white
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>>58680242
>Sadly that's not how the media portrays it.

The media has to make it look like the sky is falling. if people aren't scared they aren't making ad bucks. you cant take the reaction of the media as a normal Gage of the general consensus

>I initially liked what he had to say but then he went full SJW

don't bully me for my political preference. I voted for him because of his polices on free college, free elections and his views on climate change. Just like the alt-right found a way to over look Trumps bigoted and sexist statements I got over Bernie's SJW tendencies.

>The democrats need a Trump, but Bernie is not it.

I politely disagree I think the Left needs a champion that is not fighting for millionaires and billionaires but is working to level the playing field so that me and some fat cat can compete in a fair economy.
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Am I a tinfoil hatter for believing that this entire election cycle was one big setup for Mark Zuckerberg to be prez in 2020, with support from both liberals AND right-wingers via Peter Thiel's covert agenda?

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/01/zuckerberg-2020/513689/

Zuckerfuck criticized Thiel's Trump support but still justified his being on the board of kikebook since he was a founding member and provided shekels

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/10/mark-zuckerbergs-memo-on-peter-thiel-freedom-gawker/504752/

Also, let's not forget Palmer Luckey shilling for Trump, while he benefited greatly from Zuckerbux.

And a lot of the main alt-right figures have ties to both Thiel and the same firms promoting "gamification" and datamining that funded SJW's in the gamergate dichotomy (pic related).


The whole millenial "SJW vs alt-right" dichotomy was an exercise in how to subvert and neutralize dissenting communities on the internet.
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>>58680401
You are a tinfoil hatter.
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>>58680202
>Especially since he's probably fairly computer savvy, given that he's a confirmed /pol/ack
those two don't go together anon
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>>58680453
At least I'm too tinfoil for /pol/.

Screencapping this on the small chance Zuckmerica actually becomes reality in 4 years though.
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>>58680551
that's because most non-newfags moved to cripple/pol/, at least until Jim took over and made it a forced Trump hugbox even worse than our /pol/ and they are now a diaspora on several obscure boards.
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>>58680362
When I say the democrats need a Trump, I'm talking about needing a candidate that brings them closer to the center.

I'm talking about the way Trump has made republicans completely ok with supporting LBGT, How he flipped the party from PRO to ANTI TTP, How he made it ok to be a Republican without being a die hard patriot. How he made the Republicans more welcoming to legal immigrants.

Trump cut away the old bad cliches of the republican party, The democrats need to do the same.
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>>58680601
The moment he selected Pence it was not hard to tell that Trump already convinced the moderates and on-the-fence voters, he switched tactics to go for the standard establishment Christian Zionist base, while simultaneously paying shills to paint the most pro-Israel president in decades as a Nazi hero to the alt-righters.
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>>58680601
I get what you mean though, leaving TPP is the only good thing he's done so far.
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>>58680648
>Pence
Trump had to appeal to the religious base because of everything I just said. It was a compromise.

Bill Clinton wanted open homosexuality in the military but the military brass was 100% opposed to it. Don't ask don't tell was the compromise and everyone gave him shit for it, but it opened people up to the idea and paved the way for openness.


>most pro-Israel president
Obama did not support Israel in the last UN vote on settlements.
They flat out said we will ignore the UN ruling and wait for trump to get in.
Trump also pledged to move to support the moving of the Capital to Jerusalem. Something not even Bush was OK with.
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>>58680800
>most pro-Israel president
I know, I was talking about Trump in that post
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>>58681529
>>58680800
I was trying to say how ironic it is that the most zionist president in decades (trump)'s campaign did a downright genius shill move by promoting themselves as good nazis to the white nationalists, as good goys to the zionist Christians, AND as bad nazis to the left (for negative media attention that ends up working in his support) all at the same time
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>>58680601
>How he made it ok to be a Republican without being a die hard patriot.
He's been appealing to patriots by being pro-police and pro-military servicemen, I don't see how he fits that mold or made it that way for the party.

>>58680601
>How he made the Republicans more welcoming to legal immigrants.
They always have been around Bush-era because they realized in their spinelessness that they couldn't stop demographic shift, but they could capture large portions of immigrants, especially the Cuban community who come legally.

You're right about the whole LGBTQWERTY thing though. Even I found that shocking. They still love TPP, but the thing is, Republicans in congress are spineless and they realize that not only do they have no choice but to work with Trump, but that it is probably their greatest opportunity and maybe their only opportunity to stop the encroachment of the democrats' demographic change agenda (moving in illegal shitskins into red states) and to undo half the shit they did. If Hillary won, we would have effectively become a one-party state in the Executive Branch.

The Democrats are never going to get their version of the Tea Party, nor of Trump. Just look at what they've done so far. They re-elect Nancy Pelosi as minority leader, and you have people like this running for DNC Chair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPWsVVgi9fI

They're going to lose hard in 2018 come midterm elections because they can't give up identity politics.
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>>58675448
thank you for correcting the record
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>>58666430
this is not happening, i'm just drunk as fuck
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>>58666430
Lol i votes for trump, bot this fucktard spicer.
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>>58681577
Trump is a brilliant man and still remoans unstumped
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>>58666444
Trips don't lie.
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>>58673445
/thread
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>>58666430

I bet he was hit by a cross site scripting attack
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>>58666430
Wait, aren't /pol/'s ID 8 characters long?
He's probably a /pol/ shitposter and showing off to his "insiders", which is even more alarming. 4chan should be as far away from the White House as possible.
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>>58680551
>Chart starts at Chanology
Why though? This was when the worst people joined on.
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>>58668136
>HOW HAS NOBODY CHECKED THESE DIGITS YET?!
this isnt b
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>>58680401
>Mark Zuckerberg to be prez in 2020

Literally what
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>>58680013
Not really, the suppression of science by Trump's administration has gotten a good amount of coverage. There's just so much bullshit he's doing that it's hard to cover it all.

>how the inauguration was empty and "tumbleweed-filled'
Nigger, Trump's fucking Sunday press conference was him bitching like a baby about the coverage of his crowd sizes. He brought it up THREE FUCKING TIMES, unsolicited, during a Wednesday interview with ABC. And you're trying to tell me the MEDIA are the ones obsessed with it?
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What does /g/ think about that executive order yesterday stripping non-citizens of data privacy rights?
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>>58679840
>fake investigation
Didn't they already report they've discovered 800,000 votes for HIllary done by non US citizens?
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>>58685541
>non-citizens
Who cares? If you're not a citizen the US government doesn't owe you shit.
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>>58685573
This isn't about MUH ILLEGAL IMGRUNTS, it's about foreign customers of US-based companies.
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>>58685541
It just means the federal government has stopped pretending it doesn't spy on everyone within its jurisdiction. Shrubya created the surveillance state, Obama expanded it, and Trump intends to inject it with steroids.
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>>58685589
And once again, if you're not a US citizen the US government doesn't owe you shit.
How you got >muh illllegal angeels out of this, I'll never know
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>>58685568
No. That would be insane. They can't even prove 10k as far as I know.
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>>58685610
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/

This does sound insane, but I think the most insane thing is I believe it.
California recently passed a law requiring driver's licenses for legal citizens and non citizens in the state be identical.
You can vote just by showing your driver's license in a lot of states, including California.
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>>58679840
>Yeah its not like Trump is quibbling over petty shit by ordering a fake investigation so he can "disprove" that most americans actually voted against

It's just as hard to prove that illegal UNDOCUMENTED immigrants didn't commit voter fraud, why? Well because they're undocumented.
On the other hand, is it a bad thing to look into voter fraud? No, absolutely not. Every illegal vote cancels out an actual citizen's vote. If we're are a country that is to value our right to vote it would be better have more secure measures that allow for people to feel like their vote is secure. The fact that California is so lenient on voting actual makes it easier for people to agree with Trump, which is a bad thing because we want a citizenry that doesn't have a doubt in their voting system.
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>>58685637
In California, at least where I live, you don't even need to show proof of identification, you just have to sign some shit and go on your way.
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>>58685694
How did it get this bad? How did we let it get this bad?
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>>58685637
https://www.wired.com/2017/01/author-trumps-favorite-voter-fraud-study-says-everyones-wrong/
The author of the actual report himself says Trump is completely wrong, so maybe take that with the tiniest grain of salt.
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>>58685855
Trump claimed 5 million illegal votes, so, yeah, Trump's probably wrong about that, but at the same time I don't see him denying 800k illegal votes here either. Or does he?
I must admit I'm more than a little exhausted today so if this refutes the 800k then by all means show me.

I'd really like to believe we don't have mass voter fraud like this, because this would implying conspiracy. Well, no, the left already implies voter fraud conspiracy, this would basically prove it if true.
But I'm really too tired to make sense of this, I should probably sleep first before I decide on whether or not we're all doomed.
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>>58685942
It doesn't matter about how many actual fraudulent votes there were, what matters is the impact those votes have due to the electoral college. Fraudulent votes in California cost a lot.
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>>58685942
Basically you have to make some pretty generous assumptions for the 800k figure to hold up.

The actual study was done of the 2008 election, and they're assuming those numbers will apply to the 2016 election. Most importantly you have to assume the earlier study was actually accurate. It was an online study that was supposed to be given only to citizens in the first place, and had a really small sample size.

The 800k figure could be true, but it's about as likely as Trump jacking it to golden showers from Russian hookers.
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>>58686054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1WSU3YgAL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euZ3euUEwrM
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>>58686054
>I take the biggest dumps, nobody takes dumps bigger than me
>this made it onto an official FBI report
>"Glorious Winged Faggot Extraordinaire" also made it onto an official FBI report

What a world we live in.
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>>58686076
>Alex Jones

Please no I'm laughing too much at the /g/ meme thread already
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>>58686076
>youtube videos
You have to go back.
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>>58686054
>Obama literally encouraged illegals to vote
>800k figure as likely as Trump's golden showers
You're so biased, it's sad.
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>>58666444
include me in the screenshot
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>>58686095
OK I didn't see one was Alex Jones, I thought you were being serious. Sorry.

>>58686100
I like how you have nothing to say about the actual problems with that figure I pointed out in my post
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>>58673211
Yeah I do too, but lets not forget this will be an uphill battle shall we.
The left has a stranglehold on quite a bit of our institutions, and they will need to be purged and said institutions reorganized.

We should be doing everything possible to make college unobtainable.
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>>58686122
The only one problem with that figure is that it's probably much higher. Just wait a week or two. Expect a sanctuary city found guilty of voter fraud and boots on the ground.
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>>58669169
Start seeing politics for what it actually is. Controlled (and mostly low key) warfare between idealogies.
The sooner you understand Politicians do what they do primarily to weaken the opposing parties, the closer you are to enlightenment.
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>>58670662
Why the fuck would Perry know anything? He's a fucking state level politician who just got his first Federal Government job.
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>>58686148
>implying the reptilians will let us uncover the 22m illegal votes they made by sending their hatchlings into the voting booths
expect a mandatory round of fluoride vaccines, courtesy of their hive queen, shillkillary "pizza molester" clintkillon
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>>58686188
Not an argument.
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>>58672864
No such thing as an alternative fact. "Fact" is the purview of victors. And currently, for the right, total victory is within grasp. They will rewrite your "Facts" and paradigms. To the victor goes the spoils
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>>58686203
r u ok
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>>58686203
so you're denying the reptilian involvement huh

must be hard to type with those

BIG

SCALY

CLAWS
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>>58686188
ladies and gentlemen, /pol/
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>>58686208
facts are a spook
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>>58686208
t. Karl Rove

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community
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>>58673356
Trump has the initiative and the momentum. His whole goal is to discredit the media. The more outrageous this shit sounds the more successful his task becomes.
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>>58675166
Then let them die/fade into obscurity in peace and get the fuck out of their countries.

Can't do that though, can you? It was the white mans burden to uplift you in the first place, and at the end of that tunnel was sharing the fruits of his advanced civilization.

Asians will absorb white genes and will rule the planet within 100 years. Then they'll start killing everything not Asian or Caucasian anyway because they give not two shits about political correctness and everyone else is a useless eater to them.
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>>58679917
That legitimately sounds like a great idea. Not all climate scientists, just the ones that get funding and "believe" in anthropogenic global warming. So most of them.
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>>58680013
This shit is going exactly to Trump's benefit. He plans on breaking up Turner and NBC and CBS anyway under monopoly laws. FOX will get off but it's parent, Viacom, will be busted up like a dead whore
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>>58686356
God I hope Trump goes monopoly busting.
He better go after Time Warner Cable, Comcast, Charter and AT&T too though.
Might not hurt to go after Google, but I think that's unrealistic.
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>>58686356
Most of FOX is still pretty shit, although not as bad as the other news channels.

I only care about FOX because of this glorious man.
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>>58685527
It's been 24/7 Trump freakout since before the guy even got inaugurated.
All this shit is doing is giving Trump, right wing institutions, the federal court systems, etc the Cassus Belli it needs to start monopoly busting the media and going after it's donors.
It's plain as fucking day - Trump lays out a claim in a ridicilous manner, the media goes on a fucking feeding frenzy, biased as fuck, and then Trump shows proofs and BTFO's the media.
It has happened time and time again, and the fact that he just said 800k illegals voted means he's going to drop the data once the media make utter fools of themselves yet again. Then the investigations and criminal proceedings begin and it's rinse, wash, repeat until the Media has no trust whatsoever and can be broken up with impunity
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>>58686396
what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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>>58685942
If he says 5 million illegal votes it means he's sitting on the fucking data and will release it after the media makes an utter fool of itself. Trump 101 - outrageous claim, Spark media feeding frenzy, Bait media more, Media frenzy hits critical levels, then he drops the truthbomb and everyone but him looks like a fucking idiot. This shit is Trump 101, he did it all throughout the campaign. He wants them to react irrationally and discredit themselves and they've been playing right into it.

At this point the left has quite literally become reactionary - all momentum is lost and whenever they try to smear or discredit Trump it blows the fuck up in their face.
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>>58686452
I want to believe you.
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>>58685855
Trump is sitting directly on data from the state and federal governments, as well as reports form the FEC.
If he says millions voted illegally, it means it happened and he's drawing this shit out as long as possible to make the media look fucking stupid when he drops the data and to give him the Cassus Belli to take on the leftist institutions that allow it to happen.
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>>58666771
>>58667862
These are stock pwgen passwords
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>>58686485
All this shit is doing is giving him political capital to attack these issues. He drops the voting data and he can take on institutions that allow it to happen - like California's government - from there taking action with the federal criminal justice system and the many other toold at his disposal.
This guy is alot smarter than the average bear. He saw Obama squander a shitton of his political capital on ACA/Obamacare, Trump's first priority in office was to cement the political capital he had, now he's looking for more and the left is dropping it all over the place like spaghetti in pockets because he consistently makes them look like fucking idiots
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>>58686503
>people think this is secure
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>>58686396
>and then Trump shows proofs and BTFO's the media.
too bad he keeps forgetting this step

>>58686496
?
The feds have never had that information. If he had it he certainly wouldn't flounder around while sitting on it.
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>>58686562
>If he had it he certainly wouldn't flounder around while sitting on it.

Trumps goal is to do the shit he wants to do while utterly discrediting his enemies. He commonly makes a claim sound outrageous and then backs the claim up with data after everyone who opposed him has made a fucking fool of themselves.

He's probably blowing the 5 million out of proportion and it's probably slightly more than half that at close to 3 million. You know the amount of popular votes Hillary had over trump.
Trump's goal is to control the narrative, he's done a fucking outstanding job at it so far, hell even the negative attention changes form when people start analyzing what he's actually doing
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>>58686380
Viacom is utter fucking shit and needs to be broken up.
This guy wants to take a fucking hammer to big media and even 21st Century Fox will probably have to drop some of it's brands.
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Is this fake news or not
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>>58686376
>Time Warner Cable, Comcast, Charter and AT&T
add in Disney and FOX and you have 90% of the worlds media.

Google is a prime target for getting busted the fuck up, seperate Android from it.
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>>58686657
Anon stop fantasizing about Trump playing 7-dimensional chess. Exactly who do you imagine is collecting this data? Black ops pollsters?

Have you already forgotten birtherism, the movement Trump arguably started? Trump doesn't need data to make assertions. He'll just say whatever the hell he wants, hope something pans out, then pretend he never said what he did if it doesn't.
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>>58666430
>lefty blog
They even tried to log into their account, isnt it ilegal?
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>>58686054
If you haven't learned anything about Trump by now, you should learn that even if he blows something out of proportion to attract an irrational response, he'll have data that backs his claims - maybe not to a T, but enough for him to rub it in like salt in the wound and discredit his enemies
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>>58686726
He wouldn't be president today if he didn't make himself known well and early as an ideological opponent to Obama.

Politics is part strategy afterall, Trump was running around in 2009 calling Obama a muslim kenyan fraud and now he's the president of the united states because a whole shit load of people didn't like Obama and Trump was one of the earliest and loudest dissenters.

It's not 7d chess, it's caclulated moves by a shrewd political operator
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>>58686657
What the fuck is this spaz talking about?

Nothing you said was fucking true. What data has Trump shown? Like the whole debacle about him having the largest inauguration ever, despite the fact that data has shown that Reagan and Obama's inaugurations were far larger?
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>>58686726
Actually, the birther shit was, ironically, started by the Clintons.

>>58686777
Because he doesn't give a single shit about politics. Trump is not a politican, he never was, and he probably never will be. The reason his campaign was allowed to transcend being a joke is because he became a figurehead for the disgruntled masses fed up with SJW bullshit and the Democratic party's complacence, which he played on because he's a populist. Which is also what makes him great as a president and an actor of change, all he really cares about are nationalism and being loved by the people, and not politics.
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>>58686746
what about that whole birther thing
or that time he said climate change was a chinese conspiracy
or that time he said Goldman Sachs owned Ted Cruz, then appointed the Goldman Sachs COO to a key fiscal policy position
or that time he repeatedly insisted his inauguration crowds were the largest ever, despite obviously not being the largest
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>>58686838
>Actually, the birther shit was, ironically, started by the Clintons.
Not in any relevant way. The earliest seeds of the birther movement were planted by butthurt Clinton supporters, but there's no evidence that Clinton herself or anyone in the clinton campaign ever advanced the idea that obama wasn't american. That stands in stark contrast to Trump.
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>>58666444
holy shit
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>>58686900
>but there's no evidence that Clinton herself or anyone in the clinton campaign ever

Well, that sounds familiar.
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>>58666430
>you voted for this, america
Technically, America voted for Hillary. Ohio, Michigan, Florida and Pennsylvania voted for it though. They deserve the blame, not America writ large.
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>>58686940
>but there's no evidence that Clinton herself or anyone in the clinton campaign ever worked with the Reptilians to help Elvis hijack American Airlines Flight 77 on 9/11
my god
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>>58686966
The jews, you mean.
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>>58686974
same thing

unless you have another explanation for the way jews hatch from eggs
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>>58686900
>'extremely reliable source'
what did he mean by this
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>>58687238
that you shouldn't believe him
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>>58687275
These usually report the device they're sent on, right? where's that?
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>>58687684
I don't know shit about twitter, but apparently he tweets from his android phone.
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>>58687690
He does now that he's president, or maybe I heard wrong and it's not a secure phone.
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>>58687782
>and it's not a secure phone.
That's what whitehouse sources have said. Seems like it's asking for trouble.
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>>58687799
Likely a Samsung Galaxy S4, likely running Jellybean.
Any bets on how long it is 'till someone opens a port on the thing while he's at the pentagon?
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>>58686503
YEE4FUTO
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>>58686726
>>58686854
>birther movement
His birth certificate was proven forged about a month ago

>or that time he said climate change was a chinese conspiracy
well ya got me there

>or that time he said Goldman Sachs owned Ted Cruz, then appointed the Goldman Sachs COO to a key fiscal policy position
that too. not gonna defend it

>or that time he repeatedly insisted his inauguration crowds were the largest ever
He only insisted it was the most watched, that being crowd+TV+livestreaming. The crowd was still big though, obviously not as big as Obama's in 08 but still big.
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>>58688623
>His birth certificate was proven forged about a month ago
mmhmm
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>>58688902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EAxesVQ8wo
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM
for the full thing

>inb4 all this detailed evidence proves nothing
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>>58688935
>youtube videos
yeah you about greentexted the jist of it
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>>58688955
It was a press conference you dingbat.
But whatever.
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>>58688935
>references fox news for litterally anything
discarded
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>>58689394
They're all a joke.
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>>58680064
Christ-chan?
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>>58676006
>>58675040
>>58674990

Arstechnica has no political editortial policy. It's a tech site.

Any apparent bias is due to the political leanings of individual journalists.

To brand Arstechnica "left-wing" is idiotic.
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>>58688935
Where did they get the birth certificate on the right?
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>>58686376
>>58686376
Why are you guys going after google I think that they are far from a monopoly and any sane judge would side with me.

Google has competition for all there products.

Dive vs dropbox/mega/
Fiber vs any ISP
search vs yahoo/bing

name one thing that google has a 100% market share in.
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>>58666430
Is it an anagram?
>>
I fear the NSA and such will have their way with be Trump and he'll let them do whatever they want.
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>>58689524
Wow this post made me REALLY think, almost as much as the authors Twitter feed
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>>58686503
>OhYaew6e
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>>58673906
this. keep them distracted with silly bullshit on twitter while we handily dismantle the constitution.
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>>58666430
This is what happens when technology accelerates and the older generation gives no fucks about properly understanding any of it.

This is doubly true for the out of touch old white farts in office now. It's surprising that they can even run a toaster without burning the white house down.
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>>58666771
motherless videos
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>>58666430
Oh fuck yes we're leaking. If CTR leaks, /pol/ leaks and this is fucking awesome. Are the /g/ mods working for David Brock too?
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>>58667737
Very interesting
>yfw the nuclear codes were made at www.randomnumbergenerator.com
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>>58692664
I don't like trump either but it's funny seeing the Democrats suddenly saying the same sort of shit Republicans did when Obama won. Complete with neo-cold war revival
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