/wt/ Watch Thread

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>>58662115
I dunno but I found this neat

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>tfw to smart to not invest in Explorer II's

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Does anon still update the poorfag watch guide

>>58662531
Nope

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>>58662549
So, what, do I just buy a blue Ray II and get it over with?

>>58662531
It mostly still applies today.

>>58662590
Yeah it's a good choice
What are you looking for and what is your budget?

>>58662627
Automatic
Blue dial
~40mm
$200ish

I have no diver, that's why I was kind of looking at the Ray II. I don't like the small numbers on the Mako II bezel and I don't think the Mako USA II is worth $80 more. Not to mention, it looks sort of bland. I didn't like the round pips on the Ray at first but they're growing on me.

>>58662590
>that hand

jesus fucking christ is that a tumor or something

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>>58662531
There are some corrections to be made, but unless the creator makes them it's not worth making a new one.

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>>58662766
If he had a tumor, he'd eat it

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>>58662531
>All those fuckin Rolex knockoffs

>>58662692
Go for it then. I have the blue Ray I and the dial looks great.
It's 41.5mm though.

>>58662793
Unfortunately, it's what sells. And cheap brands can't make good original designs.

>>58662793

Yep bunch of anti-social plebs trying to give fashion advice. Plus all the watches they glamorize are all shit brands brands anyway. It's all about the brand in the real business world.

Not shit terrorist watches and that knock-off brand Seiko

Which is worse guys:

1) "the collector"
>always buying new watches to get that passing honeymoon buzz and fill that gaping void with shiny inanimate objects
>can't part with any of them, and they rot away in his closet

2) "the flipper"
>always buying new watches to get that passing honeymoon buzz and fill that gaping void with shiny inanimate objects
>constantly selling off his watches after a few months

Sure, the flipper gives his watches a chance at another life with someone else, but for some reason the flipper strikes me as the more mentally unsound of the two.
Or simply the poorer of the two, putting him in the "30k millionaire" faggot bracket.

It goes without saying that anyone owning more than 2-3 watches (dresser, daily beater, super beater) is a faggot, no matter how rich he is.

>>58662963
Not everyone buys watches to make an impression on others. Some people just enjoy watches and buy what they like. Crazy, I know.

>>58662963
Most folks aren't in the "real business world" you speak of and even then, hardly anyone gives a shit about your watch

>>58662884
>And cheap brands can't make good original designs.

They can, it's just that they have no pride and would rather shamelessly copy others who make cool shit instead. The only thing worse than the shitter """"homage"""" brands are the tasteless plebs who buy that garbage.

>>58662531
It doesn't need an update, it needs to be remade entirely if anything.

I'm myself compiling a list of all the actually interesting, iconic, unique watches. Because really, 99% of watches out there are generic uninspired copies, and many remain uncopied and unmatched.

Here's my current list generally ordered by style:

>Diver
Blancpain Fifty Fathoms
Rolex Submariner
Tudor Black Bay
Doxa Sub
Vostok Amphibia
Seiko 6105 'Turtle'

>Square
Cartier Tank
Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso
Cartier Santos Dumont

>Racing/chronometer
Omega Speedmaster
Zenith El Primero
Heuer Monaco
Seiko 6138 'UFO'/'Yachtman' & 'Jumbo'

>Pilot
IWC Portuguese
Breguet Type XXI
Sinn 556
Sinn U*
Sinn EZM*
Breitling Navitimer
Seiko 6117 Navigator Timer

>Dress
Patek Philippe Calatrava
Rolex Datejust
Audemar Piguet Royal Oak
Grand Seiko
Panerai Luminor

>Alpinism
Seiko Alpinist
Victorinox I.N.O.X.
Rolex Explorer

>Digital
Casio Digital Classic/F-91W
Casio Data Bank
Casio G-Shock
Seiko G-757
Tissot T-Touch

>Unclassifiable
Accutron Spaceview
LIP Mach 2000
Autodromo Group B
A. Lange & Sohne Datograph
Hamilton Ventura
Mondaine Classic
Orient Disk
Seiko Giugiaro 7A28-7000

What would you add?

>>58663157
No they can't. It's actually really hard to make a good original design, believe it or not.
And getting someone to make one for you is really expensive.

>>58663206
Wow, you're a fucking retard.

>>58663256
It's not really a question of design though, it's more a question of the materials used: if you use shitty materials, you can't make good designs, otherwise they just look cheap.
The designs of cheap watches are in fact incredibly well thought out, simply they're made with the cheap materials in mind, trying to hide their shitty quality as much as possible.

>>58663265
Thanks anon.

>Tudor Black Bay
>Anything but a budget submariner

>3 Sinn pilots

>Grand Seiko isn't a watch

>Ugly Victorinox i have never heard of

>Ugly Tissot I have never heard of


I think the SKX also belongs on the list over the turtle tbqhwy.

>>58663425
Meant as a response to >>58663206

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Will this strap be too thick for the Black Bay?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/guarded-goods-shell-cordovan-watch-strap/

>>58663206
I would remove Doxa which is an absolute garbage brand that costs way too much money considering they're made in fucking China.

I would replace it with an Oris Aquis Depth Gauge which is actually something unique (and relatively new).

Some other watches I'd throw in would be a VC Malte for the square category (actually more barrel shaped but it's unique an beautiful)

Throw out the Sinn watches they're shit.

"Alpinism" should be changed to field watch.

>>58662783
Source on the SARB being made in China?

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My Seiko snkl83j1 from CreationWatches finally arrived!

>>58663553
Open the case back, it says made in china on the inside.

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>>58663568
Sorry for potato quality.

>>58663425
Well this isn't so much a list of "my favorite watches", I mean there's a Panerai in there, it's just that I find them well-designed, unique, iconic and/or influential.

I find the Black Bay largely different, with color tones and contrast that are unlike anything else, though I wouldn't wear one, the Tissot T-Touch was full of innovation and a best-seller, though I wouldn't wear one either, Sinn designs are recognisable, very influential, yet still varied, and that Victorinox is well-known in some circles as an affordable, bomb-proof mechanical.

As for Grand Seiko, they obviously exist in many options, but I'm listing ranges in here too. All GS are still similar in design.

>>58663509
>Oris Aquis Depth Gauge
Was currently mirrin' Oris watches, plenty good stuff in there. Though Doxas are still quite iconic and there's plenty great vintage ones.

VC Malte is pretty good though.

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>>58662494
Why did Zenith decide to mess with perfection?

Also WHAT were they thinking with that overlap that covers the chronograph minute markers? Like how can designers working for a big watch company make such a stupid mistake?

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>>58663425
>I think the SKX also belongs on the list over the turtle tbqhwy.
They kinda both belong, but the Turtle certainly does.

It's more than iconic, being the absolute Vietnam watch, sold in US army stores during the war, worn by both sides as Vietcongs picked them off dead bodies, and still common among veterans. It's also seen in countless movies, most notably Apocalypse Now.

Nothing screams "Phế liệu máy bay trực thăng này! Lỗ đít!" like a Turtle.

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>>58663206
damn your list.

THIS graph shows all of you -- ALL OF YOU, all that you need to know.

>>58663832
I think anon just wanted to list nice and original looking watches, not argue which brand is the best. Even with your graph, that doesn't quite give me an idea of what good watches there are from either of those brands.

It doesn't even mention odd brands, like Lip, or the Autodromo Group B that got posted just last thread: >>58660107)
Meanwhile, your list is fucking garbage:
>Swatch
>Chris Ward
>Hublot
>Panerai
>Hublot
>Richard Mille

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>>58662523
Upboated kind sir
>>58663832
Show us how many of the top tier you actually own then
>>58663698
I don't know bro.. But I want the 1969 so bad, or a Vacheron.

How bankrupt would we all go if we won the lottery

>>58663698
the overlap is great

good article on filippo loreti

https://www.8past10.com/articles/post/1/588a0e4a00079a12589e2e31

>>58663955
if i won the lottery i'd just buy a nomos to be honest

>>58663982
>shitty kickstarter watch is made in china
WHO
WOULD
HAVE
GUESSED

what kind of filth would buy vc, hublot, ap, or panerai? disgusting.

money certainly can't buy one taste. or class.

>>58664061

What's wrong with AP and VC?

>>58664061
AP makes other watches than the Offshores.
And VC doesn't really make anything offensive.

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Looking for a midsized dive watch(40mm) for under $200 that you can actually take swimming

What can I get?

>>58664090
you don't think this >>58663955 is horribly offensive? it looks like an AP knockoff.

blech.

>>58664141
It looks pretty damn good. And just because it has an integrated bracelet doesn't make it a RO.

>>58663748
I thought turtles were much more recent

Not a fan of the big case, but this makes me like them more.

What's the meaning of the Viet sentence?

Best cheap

Digi
Diver style
Minimal style (DW, etc)

Watches?

>>58664219
f91w
mdv106
$4 fake dw from ali

>>58663570
>>58663553
I'm pretty sure the just cases SARB models are made in China. I have never read about any other part in the SARB line coming from there. Please correct me of I am wrong though.

>>58664091
BOCTOK

>>58664091
SKX013, might have to stretch your budget a bit. How many more fucking times are you going to ask this question?

>>58664285
The thing is that we don't know, and japanese law states that it's enough for the chinese production to be overseen by a gook to qualify as "made in japan".

So it's made in china.

>>58665146
Seiko makes their stuff in Malaysia if anything.

>>58662963
Entirely untrue. I've worn a $30 watch and someone thought it was a $600 watch. People only care how nice it looks, not everyone in the real world is informed about watches.

>>58663832
>You should buy Rolex and not IWC
Lol what?

>>58665277
Nah m8. Japan or Korea.

>>58665495

It's funny how IWC have been around a lot longer than Rolex, yet Rolex have managed to refine their processes and are able to create 100% in-house to a near flawless standard while launching many significant innovations over the years.

IWC are still busy putting ETA movements in their overpriced polished turds

>>58666181
>launching many significant innovations
Such as?

>>58666346
The waterproof watch
The GMT watch
The date complication
The automatic movement

>>58664957
>presenting useful information as memes

>>58666410
>>58666346

Yep, Self-winding rotor and Waterproof case are probably the biggest ones

>>58666410
Automatic movements have been around much longer than Rolex. It's just the 360 degree rotating weight that's new.

>>58666557
bumper movements are shit. oscillating weights made automatics viable

>>58666599
Keep in mind, the oscillating weight isn't truely first done by Rolex, as there were some watches in the 1700s made that way. But it was so few and elusive Rolex may not have known about them at the time.

But improving automatic mechanisms is categorically different from inventing it.

Should I buy a snk809 as my first auto being a poorfag and all? I've looked at a lot of watches but this one may fit my bitch wrists. I'm still a little apprehensive but am sure this is the best in its price range of ~ £60
Do I pull the trigger or are there any other alternative?
I'm a little worried about the strap like if I get a brown hirsch strap with it will this suit my light brown complexion

>>58667158
yes get it

>>58667158
I really like mine. I wear it a lot in the summer because it's small and light. And it's cool to show people the windowed caseback

>>58667268
>>58667202
Cheers for the replies guys I appreciate it.
What straps would you recommend

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How does a Grand Seiko compare to something like a Tudor Pelagos with in-house movement?

I mean in terms of quality, fit and finish, movement, ...

>>58667158
go for it

it's perfect for that role

>>58664957
Does /g/ really have a boner for Rolex and their richer-than-average-redneck watches?

>>58667991
If you read the thread you will soon see that most of us are in fact not exactly Patek collectors.

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>>58667436
If you go see some in person I think you'll notice a pretty big difference.

>>58668345
Are Tudors not as nice as Grand Seikos?

>>58664061
>poor faggot bitch rant
lol

>>58666181
>while launching many significant innovations over the years
MAJOR KEK

>>58668533
The new in-house Tudors are actually nicer than most GS.

>>58669010
Movement-wise sure, but in terms of finishing it's not even close.

good quartz moonphase?

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You guys are a bunch of insecure poorfags trying to compensate by wearing overpriced jewelry.

If you want to check the time, get something that does it more durably and efficiently. Pic related

>>58669357
The only one sounding like an insecure poorfag is you.

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Just got this beat up vintage automatic watch from a german micro brand, apparently a jeweller/watchmaker from Hannover, for just 27€ shipped from an eBay auction.
Not sure about the movement but I think it's ETA based. Do you guys like it?

>>58669403
Explain to me again how a $1000 Sinn is objectively superior to a Casio digital watch

I'll be waiting

>>58669444
You won't look like you live in your parent's basement still

>>58669442
Btw the seller claims that it's a steel case but the scratches tell me that it could be chromed plated brass like my vintage slavshit watches.

>>58669455
Haha I thought so faggot. Casio superior

>>58668533
Like I said. Go take a look.

>>58669010
In what way would you say they are nicer?

>>58669444
Because the Sinn, even though I don't like their designs, doesn't look like a plastic piece of crap.

Also, it will last longer, more than a few decades at least, wich is longer than any plastic Casio.

>>58669444
Oh my God are you trying to bash sinn again you never stop

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>>58663597
I had the same one in blue
My shitty ex gave it to me for valentines. It somehow fell the day she broke my heart, and the seiko logo fell off the dial.
I removed it and thought I would just wear it as a beater or something, but for the first and only time in my life, the springbar failed and it fell like 4 feet on concrete. Needless to say it doesn't work anymore, it's like the watch reflected my relationship.
Btw fuck you lisa

>>58669357
Why so insecure about your shitty Casio?

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>>58669862
There's literally nothing wrong with casio thoough. Sinn is my favorite mid tier brand however, and I need a 903 in my life.

>>58669567
Some unhelpful faggots you are

King Quartz or LM Special, /g/?

I already have a King Seiko so my need for hi(ish)-beats is pretty sated and I'm really just looking for something I can wear all the time

Are there any good quartz moonphases?

>>58670773
There aren't fucking many, just get whichever

>>58670811
Ok can you list all of them for me

>>58670921
no

>>58670773
>>58670921
What's your price range anon?

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>>58670148

Which KS model do you have? LM Specials can still be gotten for dirt cheap off Yahoo! Japan Auctions, but its definitely caveat emptor over there.

Maybe a penis quartz would be a more suitable choice for you, leave the drowning oneself on 52xx movements to me.

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Horween is some expensive stuff.

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>>58671057

Shell cordovan should be even pricier.

>>58671057

Just make sure you get some navy and some tan and you'll be able to sell at least two straps right off the bat. I'm literally holding off from throwing money at Combat-Straps waiting for you to get this shit sorted out.

>>58670986
What's reasonable ? I'm pretty open

>>58662963
You shut your dirty fucking mouth about Seiko

>>58663005
>mfw I want to post my collection in response to this post, but this is obviously a blatant bait

>>58663206
Hey m8. I read the list and I found it interesting. If you please, I'd love to see what watches you actually own, and I don't care if they are expensive or affordable.
cheers

>>58663440
Maybe. The BB is a bit thick already, at least my BBBronze is.

>>58663597
>>58663568
Congrats m8.

>>58663832
>shit chart is shit
Unless you're comparing especific models, no chart can succesfully reflect the brand's quality.

>>58663955
>How bankrupt would we all go if we won the lottery
Plenty I think. lol
That new Overseas is really good, although I prefer mine, it was sad to see the big date disapper from VC family.

>>58664061
My friend, you don't know much about this passion.

>>58664957
>Missing AL&S and still being an unuseful chart.
1/10

>>58663982
That's why I don't trust business models like kickstarter watchmakers.

>>58665495
>>58666181
>many significant innovations over the years
They undubtely refined and create some contruction technics, or developed next-gen materials, but I think you're pushing it m8.
I enjoy my Milgauss very much, but it's nowhere near the craftsmanship of IWC's annual calendar.

>>58666410
While not getting in the arguement of whats and whatsnot, none of those innovations belong to modern watchmaking era.

>>58667158
Get it, relax and enjoy it. And if possible, do post pics in here.

>>58667436
Both have their cons and defects.

Tudor's new caliber seems very good and reliable, but it needs to pass the test of time an I have yet to examinate in irl. However, their asthetics are more interesting.

GS, in the other hand, have workhorse movements that imho lack a bit more sofistication in their finishing, with "cotes de Geneve" being too shallow, hard and sterile, and in some cases no anglage at all, like >>58668345 but with overall great QC so you'll probably get a close to perfect dial, hands and case, to look at.

>>58669357
As someone else said, the one that seem insecure in here is you m8.
I love watches, and I don't need to give any more explanations about that.

>>58669442
Congrats! I like the big ass numerals. What are they painted with? Maybe tritium?

>>58669818
Maybe it's cursed?? Take it to a priest and see what happens. Shitty ex's tend to curse things, you know?

>>58671016
I like very much your KS my friend, but I think it needs some vacations in a warmer weather, don't you think? Send it over here.
cheers

>>58671288
What's is your budget? there are options from 350 usd to 10k.

>>58671016

Got a 5621-7000T because it was more or less mint and I liked the styling (full 70s), thinking of eventually going for one that conforms more to the Grammar of Design eventually because you can never have too many!

No pictures I'm afraid because it's 3am here and I'm knackered

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>that one guy whose bored so he decides to take a terrible picture of his 3 watches and applies a bunch of filters in an effort to make the picture less terrible

>mfw he forgot to wind one of his watches and didn't realize it until after taking the picture

>>58671610
>5621

I revise my previous opinion. You clearly need some Daini Seikosha in your life. If you want something full grammar of design then look for an LM Special 5206-6130 or a 5216-8020. Both have the iconic design language.

Keep in mind that the 5216 lost the instant day/date change at midnight the 5206 had to gain protection against people breaking the quick-set by using it between 9pm and 3am.

>>58671502
Of all the watches I own, that is the one I would part with last. It's the most accurate mechanical movement I've ever seen.

Actually, that's a a good question. Of all your watches, which would you keep if you could only have one?

>>58663832
>Montblanc being disregarded
>Sinn/Oris/Rado/Chopard/Longines/Hamilton/Breitling/Tudor being above it

At least Montblanc has movements developed in-house movements.

http://timeandtidewatches.com/insight-a-visit-to-montblancs-le-locle-and-villeret-watchmaking-factories/

>>58671101

I don't think I'll be ordering any anytime soon, I think I'd want to order at least two hides at the least to outweigh the shipping costs so it'll be like, $500. Gotta save up a bit.

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are non-black straps w/ black dials okay (ie this one)? or just generally a no-go

hope you enjoy my grimy hands while you're at it

>>58672062

Whelp, guess I'll have to give money to a Quebecois. This disappoints me.

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>>58671748
I appreciate the pic anyway anon. I love collections pics.
Are those your entire collection?
cheers and saved

>>58671775
>Of all the watches I own, that is the one I would part with last.
Well, my friend, that can be easily arranged.
Where do you live?
>like, exactly

>Of all your watches, which would you keep if you could only have one?
If I'm forced to choose only one, and I mean at gunpoint to my head, rusty knive to my dick and balls, I'd sell all of them and buy something like a Greubel Forsey Double Tourbillon 30 (pic related), a JLC Hybris Mechanicca, or a ALS Tourbillon Perpetual Calendar Handwerkskunst.
Something REAALLY crazy.

>reality check
If I had to choose from what I already own, I think it would have to be something I haven't shown in here, my Datograph.

>>58672282
>are non-black straps w/ black dials okay (ie this one)?
No problem. Wear what you like m8.

>>58671983
The fact that some brand has in-house calibers is not as important as how those movements are made, or how sofisticated they are.

Montblanc has several grades among its familys, but Chopard, Tudor and Breitling make way better watches than Montblanc's base and entry level models.

The Villeret manufacture is something completely apart, and yet, sports the Montblanc name.

This is my problem with that shitty chart. You cannot compare brands as a whole, only especific models against each other.

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Questions for fun.

>Which you wear the most:

>What makes the watch mechanically/technically interesting

>Anything else unique or novel that compels you to wear it:

>Which watch, if given to you, would dethrone your most worn watch:

>What makes that watch mechanically/technically interesting:

>Anything else unique or novel that contributes to the dethroning

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QUIZ TIME
first to identify this correctly wins a prize!

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>>58672850
It probably is an Omega DeVille Co-axial Chronometer

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>>58672790
>>Which you wear the most:
My Omega Speedmaster MOTFM moonphase

>>What makes the watch mechanically/technically interesting
Is as reliable as they come, sturdy as fuck, the bezel can take lot of damage without showing any harm, it has a chronograh, a date, a moonphase -wich is very useful to me-, it's comfortable and not that ultra expensive to service/repair/replace.

>>Anything else unique or novel that compels you to wear it:
MOTFM fuckers!!
(even if it's not the historically correct reference)

>>Which watch, if given to you, would dethrone your most worn watch:
Maybe
the Omega MOTFM Aventurine Dial
or
the IWC GST Perpetual Calendar Chronograph

>>What makes that watch mechanically/technically interesting:
MOTFM Aventurine dial: SPACE, bitch!

IWC GST: Is an understated Perpetual Calendar Chronograph with moonphase in a 120m water resistant titanium case.

>cons
MOTFM AD: 44mm, so no that comfortable, and the dial might brake or shatter from a hard hit.

IWC GST: Probably not even nearly as sturdy, thicker, 43mm case, scratch magnet, more expensive to service/repair/replace.

>>Anything else unique or novel that contributes to the dethroning
nop

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Where to buy pic related?

>>58672790
>fishing for (you)'s
>the only one to respond is your butt buddy

>>58672790
SKX009

I love the case design and its character. I default to it because it seems to handle just about everything. Swimming, rock climbing, hiking, travel. Haven't had a single issue.

Unless it breaks I don't see anything dethroning it. I wear it often because it's a goddamn workhorse that I don't have to baby.

If it does manage to break, we'll see. Probably a sinn since by the time this thing breaks down those should be well within my price range.

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>>58663206
Citizen Nighthawk for pilots seems unique enough

>>58662531
Obris Morgan is literally impossible to buy.

>>58667430
natos are good and cheap

>>58671748
That's a pretty good collection. Sporty, dressy, beater. Don't need anything else.

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>>58665495
>>58671397
>>58671983
>>58672539
>shits on the all powerfull chart
>can't afford any of the top level names
LMAO

>>58672790
Most people here only have cheap watches with basic movements, so those questions don't have any good answers...
The watch I wear the most is a seiko 5, and what makes it interesting is that it's mechanical. That's good enough for me and as good as it gets with my budget.
And most watches could replace it.

>>58674056

You haven't been here very long, have you? Avacado has many of the top-tier in that chart.

>>58673412
/r/watchexchange
/f29/
ebay

They were a very limited edition, Japan-only iirc. And now they're a meme. So they're only available used and overpriced.

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>>58674056
You could have just asked for his (partial) collection pic like a non-retard, you know.

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>>58674056

>>58673944
why post a pic of a filthy pouch?

Can anyone recommend me a nice skeleton watch for about 300-440$?

I don't know much about watches, but i just think it's sad to not be able to see it all.

Also, it'd be my first watch ever if that matters :)

>>58674522
Get something with a display case back instead.

>>58674437

Got some dye on it, but I made it.

In two weeks I will be going to japan, primarily to ski in Sapporo but I will be staying in shibuya for a few days to do touristy things. I'd love to be able to pick up a grand seiko, what is the price range I would be looking at, and are there any reputable 22nd hand shops you would recommend? Should I consider anything else if it's available?

>>58674727
Jack Road is good

>>58674235
Why even have this many watches when you can't even wear them all in a week?

>>58664174
>What's the meaning of the Viet sentence?

"Shoot at the American helicopter you fucking retard!".

Commonly heard when flying over Saigon.

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>>58674854
You're not thinking creatively.

>>58662531
>you can never unsee the clown face

Well, shit. And I thought it was a good looking watch.

>>58671502
>Whats your budget
Anywhere from that minimum 350 to 800

>>58672539
>>58674035
>Are those your entire collection?

Yes, 3 has always done it for me. Enough to be varied but not so much that I have to worry about maintaining a bunch of watches.

>>58672790

>Which you wear the most:

My 1975 King Seiko 5256-8010

>What makes the watch mechanically/technically interesting

The 52xx movements was the final high-end mechanical movement developed by Daini Seikosha before Seiko's high-end moved to quartz and is amongst the best series produced automatic movements every designed.

The 52 King Seiko Special was developed as Daini Seikosha's final statement of what they were capable of and was adjusted to a much higher standard than normal King Seiko's. According Seiya of Seiya Japan (who captured much of Seiko's unrecorded history by talking to the people who worked there), the KS Specials were adjusted to beyond base Grand Seiko levels. They also have a screw type micro-adjuster, greatly easing regulation.

My particular example appears to bear this out, running between +0s/d and +6s/d in six positions and on the wrist having run for 12 and 14 days at a cumulative +0s/d without ever having exceeded +/-2s in the first case and +/1s in the second.

>Anything else unique or novel that compels you to wear it:

It's a fairly definitive example of Seiko's Grammar of Design design language, has a white sunburst dial, rectangular baton indices and nice hands.

>Which watch, if given to you, would dethrone your most worn watch:

Grand Seiko SBGH001

>What makes that watch mechanically/technically interesting:

It sports what is very likely to be the single most technically advanced conventionally regulated movement in series production today. Because I regulate my own watches, I prefer convention regulation with a micro-adjuster to free sprung balances, and the 5hz beat rate of the 9s85 should somewhat compensate for the downsides of conventional regulation.

>Anything else unique or novel that contributes to the dethroning

A truly astronomical level of finishing and similarly Grammar of Design styling, but with a bracelet.

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>>58673886
Pretty good indeed, there's a strong identity to the entire Nighthawk range, along with the older Promaster Sky range leading up to it: thin bezel making for a large dials, distinctive markers and slide rule, sword hands, knurled crowns, and the shininess of the transparent dial above the solar panel makes for a highly recognisable design, certainly the most striking one of the EcoDrive range. I've been contemplating getting one of the radio-controlled sapphire ones from the older range, back then when this design started.

Though Citizen strangely hasn't updated them in a long time, pretty much the entire catalog has been updated, but nothing new on the Promaster/Nighthawk horizon, and it's apparently not being restocked anywhere. Might be the time to get one.

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>>58671397
>Hey m8. I read the list and I found it interesting. If you please, I'd love to see what watches you actually own, and I don't care if they are expensive or affordable.
>cheers

Well for now I own:
>Rolex Explorer I
>Laurel Alpinist
>SARB017
>Seiko 6117
>Seiko Type II

And they're all back home. I've been spending the past few years in-between third world countries, where wearing an expensive watch isn't a good idea unless it appears utilitarian and beat up, and for now it's a SKX whose sole luxury is a custom bezel.

But I'll soon return to civilization with my hard-earned shekels, and finally able to wear whatever I want, and I'm planning to expand this little collection with more original, unique, and above all varied watches. To me it's all about the design, I don't really care whether it's cheap quartz or haute horlogerie as long as there's this little "something" that clicks for me.

I'm hopefully not going to buy all those watches, but I'm already set to begin with a Reverso, an Autodromo Group B and an Eterna Super KonTiki. Also surely an Accutron Spaceview and a Seiko G757 which will be smaller purchases. And I've added the QlockTwo W, Sarpaneva and pic related Vulcain Cricket Nautical to my list.

If you have well-designed watches to suggest, I'm more than interested.

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Does anyone one here have any experience with Seiko quartz watches with moon phase?
I kinda like this one that has a day/night and moon phase complication and the fact it doesn't have a seconds hand that goes tick tick tick is quite appealing.

>>58676384
that's legit

>>58676384
Eye candy

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>Pilot's Watch
>Mechanical Automatic
>Vintage
>1500$ max
Basically a watch to impress hipsters
Hit me with your best recommendations

>>58674235
I definitely need a higher resolution pic of this one, Lawyeranon.

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My 24H Raketa just came in the mail and this sunburst dial is making me hard, lads.

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>>58677452
Looks cool on a Bond nato

>>58674854
The real question is why wouldn't you want all of those watches?

Also, this
>>58677339

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I went to the GP manufacture today, it was pretty cool.

>>58671397
>>Missing AL&S and still being an unuseful chart.

Why buy a Lange when you can get a Patek? Serious question.

I'm talking objective, concrete quality here, not buying more expensive for the sake of it or "I prefer X design better".

>>58678069
>objective, concrete quality
>ALS vs Patek
M8 at that price point nobody cares

>>58677932

Could you share anything more about it? GP seems like a pretty cool watchmaker.

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>Buy a SRP773 from the US and order a bracelet from HK
>Both shipped in the same day
>Bracelet arrived in two weeks
>Still waiting on the watch

Just what the hell is going on.

Also, the poor man's Omega dynamic is working well.

>>58677452
where the fuck did you get this from

i need one

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>>58678343
Also, said Vostok Dynamic.

>>58678413
Look on ebay for "Raketa 24h" or "Raketa world time" but inform yourself a bit about this model first or you will could get franken'd.

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>>58671775
>>58671610

>>58674235
Whats the second from the left, first row? The oval one.

Also, is that an original Seiko aliens?

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What do you guys think?

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>>58680330

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I didn't think a Bell & Ross I liked existed.
I was wrong.

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>>58678190
It was a pretty standard factor tour, like you would see with patek/ap/etc, difference being that GP is quite a lot smaller. Though still as industrialized as bigger brands, which feels a bit off sometimes.

I also went to a horology museum nearby which had a bunch of cool shit, pic related.

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>>58680438
>go to GP factory
>take a picture of an old Seiko
Only on /wt/.

>>58680330
>>58680340
Dude did the strap cost more than the watch

>>58680435
What's a horograph

>>58680435
No you were right

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>>58680498
Why, yes it did.

>>58679700

Nice. How's the accuracy on it?

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>>58680517
>That I like
Nope. I was wrong.
At least make a clever joke if you make one.

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>>58680493
I did get to fondle the GP constant force while at the factory, but its kinda obnoxious to go take a bunch of shitty foto's. And you should Google that old Seiko :^)

>>58680586
>And you should Google that old Seiko :^)
I did. Doesn't make it any less or old or any less Seiko.

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OK lads, I fixed the hands. what do you guys think?

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What's /wt/'s opinion on Christopher Ward? The c65 trident looks nice as fuck desu

>>58680620
Why are you even here senpai?

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>>58680649
Not for Seikos or commie watches, that's for sure.
I'm just getting kind of bored by the constant Seiko circlejerk in /wt/.
I don't visit as often as I used to, but check in every now and then to see if it's still the same shit.

>>58680586
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>58680743
It's caret

>>58680637
The big Christopher Ward ruins it.

>>58680637
>Christopher Ward
british invicta

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>>58680672
You can dislike Seiko all you want, but that doesnt Mean that quartz astron wasnt at the very least the most important watch they had in their collection, thus really cool and worth to post.
Here, have something non Seiko thats also really impressive

Posting to see if I've been banned

What notable brand wentry under the shitter during the quartz crisis

>>58680895
They're that bad?

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I'm buying this tomorrow, a £100 is a lot of money for a poor student like me and I just want to know that theirs nothing wrong with it.

>>58681115
Looks fine to me

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Some anon posted this in the last thread, does anyone know it's name?

>>58681331

NVCH-30 Reissue

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>>58681331
That looks like the limited edition of the Vostok Amphibia they made a while back, only for some Russian watch forum I believe. It's essentially a flashier remake of the original first generation Amphibias of the late 60's.

>>58681006
>You can dislike Seiko all you want, but that doesnt Mean that quartz astron wasnt at the very least the most important watch they had in their collection, thus really cool and worth to post.
But everybody has already seen it and know it.
I saw it at BaselWorld myself, and it was rather underwhelming.

>>58681331
no, I don't know "it is" name
it's a 31 jewel automatic vostok, and there are shitloads of different variations on all of their watches

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>>58681569
Your not very good with grammer are you

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>>58681543
Well I hadnt and thought it was cool.
I dont really take that much pics anyways.

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>>58671397
>That new Overseas is really good, although I prefer mine, it was sad to see the big date disapper from VC family.

Close ups on your VC mate? I'm keen to regret not studying law even more l

>>58681543
Oh btw about baselworld, how was it?
Is there a lot to see?
Going there this year but getting kinda mixed reviews from people.

>>58680629
Much better. But the two watches are sitting a little too close to each other for my autism

>>58680566
Not actually checked it properly, doesn't seem to lose much time at all

Probably should check, thinking about it

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>>58681744
Eh.. It was alright, but I reckon it's a lot more fun if you have money to spend, haha.
But interesting booths nonetheless.

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Just got my Sturmanskie commemorative edition Yuri Gagarin watch in. Pretty sexy for only $50 including shipping. My first real watch in over a decade.

My plan is to get an authentic Poljot watch in the $300 range once I'm ready to take the next step. For now, this will help me see if I really want something on my wrist all the time.

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Only the dead can know peace from this evil

>>58682472
Postmen are cunts, I bet those faggots didn't even bother to try and knock on the door or anything.

>>58682472

If you have a job then it makes sense.

>>58682493
>>58682550
Yeah I wasn't home but having to wait another day is hell.

>>58672539
>You cannot compare brands as a whole, only especific models against each other.
While I can see where you are coming from, if TagHeuer were to out of the blue release a fantastic watch I still wouldn't wear one due to the negative association that the brand name has. TagHeuer won't release a fantastic watch tomorrow out of the blue tomorrow because they know their reputation is shit and their role in the world is to produce shit.

The exceptions are way too few for the rule not to apply tbqhwy.

>>58682395
>buying fake slavshit

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>>58681331
AMA

>>58683366
Is there anywhere you can still find one? Or any chance of a rerun?

>>58682395
Bleh, quartz. Not one of the better reissues.

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>>58683425
There were originally plans for a not-limited 200m version (this is 300m), perhaps not gilded either, but I don't know if that is still true. Your best bet is to stalk Ebay and private sale forums Watchuseek and Watch.ru. You could ask on the latter to be added to the wait list but that seems like a lost cause.

>>58683447
Pic.

>>58683366
Why'd you waste your money on ruskie shit?

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>>58683612
They work.

>>58662531

Hamilton khaki field is the only one I'd wear at any price desu senpai sjw maximus.

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>>58682958

I know, but it was only $45 total and I like the way it looks. I'm in a nursing student budget. Once I have my RN I promise to come back to you with a watch you could never afford on your call-center representative budget ;)

>>58683643
Only if you get lucky, mine didn't.

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>>58683612


Why are you a fag with poor taste?

Not everyone buys the same watch as you. Get the fuck over yourself.

>>58684250

That's cause you bought a POS fake.

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>>58684250
I must get lucky a lot.

Was there a Seiko price increase recently?

SNZH53 went up $30.

>>58684475


Currency exchanges bro.

where can i buy a good replica nowdays?

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>>58672850
>>58672915
So... was I right?
Where is my prize?

>>58673944
Looks nice. I could use a few of those.

>>58674056
Even if I didn't own any, that wouldn't mean the chart correctly depicts the quality of the watches.

>>58674235
>tfw some people actually saved my pic
Thanks anon. Somehow it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

>>58674522
Well made skeleton watches are not available for that price m8, sorry. I think you have two options: either buy an openheart (that still wont be very well done), or opt for a crystal case back, that would let you see the movement.

>>58674854
RIght now I can't even wear all of them in a month, but the thing is, I love watches, a lot, and collect them is a great hobbie/passion.
cheers

>>58674873
lol my friend
How creative could one be before is extremely weird, NineBalls?
>inb4 watches in ankles and dick

>>58675719
In the 350-800 range I would suggest something like a Maurice Lacroix Eliros Moonphase (pic related) or some piece of vintage Seiko, like the ones you already posted.
Keep in mind the Maurice Lacroix is a bit averpriced for what it is, but imho looks really nice and fulfills the swiss meme checkbox (although is probably not totally swiss)
http://www.chrono24.com/mauricelacroix/eliros-moonphase--id5575781.htm

>>58675848
I like your collection m8.
And you're right, is a handfull.

>>58676743
>in-between third world countries, where wearing an expensive watch isn't a good idea unless it appears utilitarian and beat up,
lol
And to think I have rode the subway with my Lange1 on my wrist, in NY, Mexico City and London.
From the models you cite I would first go for the Spaceview. It looks really cool and they are kind of becoming rare with the vintage love revival.
Have you taken a look into vintage Omegas?

>>58676809
This one looks pretty nice too.

>>58677901
>>58677339
Let me see what I can do, m8s.

>>58677452
>>58677603
Congrats anon.

>>58679700
Nice.

>>58684597
>Maurice Lacroix

A brand with a fictitious name for marketing purposes with no horological history whatsoever.

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>>58678069
>>58678144
Well my friend, the thing is although I like Patek as a brand, most of their entry level models are not as well made as they could, in oposition to their most expensive; and this has always bothered me.

For example, if you look at pic related, you'll notice that both of these movements have the same mainplate but while the simple time looks very good, it doesn't has gold chatons, not are the cotes de Geneve really deep and the beveling or "anglage" isn't as wide as it could be.

Disregarding their PP seal, the manufacture actually has different standars for their watches, depending fo how expensive they are, and for me, it sounds like a lack of respect to their basic models and their customers.

I'll still buy a PP eventually, but for now, that lack of enthusiasm has stoped me from doint it.

And this in not mi opinion only, check this recent thread:
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/finishing-better-than-lange-3916098.html

That's why I went for A. Lange & Söhne.

IWC Spitfire 3878
IWC Portuguese 3714-46
Breitling SuperOcean Abyss Chrono
JLC MC
Omega SM
Blancpain Fifty Fathoms
Tudor Heritage Ranger
Seiko Padi Pepsi Turtle
Seiko SKX007

If someone had a collection like that, what would you add?

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>>58678069
>>58678144
>>58684718
AL&S in the other hand, has the exact same stardar fo finishing to all their movements, disregarding if they are 40k -like one of mines-, 90k or 350k (pic related) the only thing that changes is the sofistications and complexity of the construction, due to the complications in place.

You can see here that the three calibers have exceptionally deep cotes de Geneve, bright and strong perlage, clean and wide anglage, and in all three cases the balance wheel bridge is hand carved with a gorgeous motiff.

In my humild book, A. Lange & Söhne is a better brand that PP and is the greatest not independet brand right now.

Plus, I like their designs more.

>>58684812
Do you have any JLCs? Is archie's claim that they're 'patek quality at rolex price' accurate at all?

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>>58684775
I really like multifaceted cases with hard angles and alternating finishes. That list strikes me as not having much of that, the speedmaster probably has the most of it.

GS Hi-Beat. Either GMT or non.
Or a 15202st.

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>>58680330
>>58680340
I sense the strap is more expensive that the watch, but I like the look.

>>58677932
>>58680438
>>58680586
I envy you m8. I haven't visited GP yet.

>>58680672
Then you could post and discuss watches of other brands, don't you think m8?

>>58681115
Go in youtube and you'll probably find a video fo someone showing how to use it. Learn it by heart and try to check it tomorrow before exchanging money. Best of lucks m8.

>>58681331
Well, that case looks pretty nice.

>>58682395
congrats

>>58682472
That sucks m8. Haven't you thought of haveing them delivered to your work?
I do this with camara equipment.

>>58682784
I also see what you mean, but belive me, you should try to judge a watch for itself, not the brand. For example, I don't really like Breitling as a brand, but I know one of the best quartz ever made came from them, and maybe I'll buy one, disregarding of its origin.

>>58684636
The guy is asking for a moonphase quartz for less than 800 usd and I think the Eliros looks quite good and is better made than some other cheap options.

This is precisely what I mean whe I say that you should judge the watch itself first, not the brand.
yesus

>>58684775
I fell you're lacking a more formal piece, an elegant one. How do you feel about JLC Classic Reverso family?

>>58684855
Yes, I have JLC and they are extremely, extremely well made, plus they are probably the biggest manufacture all around that develops haute horlogery, their familys are quite diverse, and also, their range of complications and decorations. I love JLC.

However, with the exception of the very special, they are not as well finished as AL&S or PP, but they do use decoration techniques others can't, and improvements other brands won't even dream to (see the new Gyrotourbillon 1).

>pic related, the calibers offered by JLC solely to the Reverso family.

JLC offers haute horlogery that sometimes can be bought for the price of an expensive Rolex, and I think that's what Archie means.

>>58684855

I'm not Lawyeranon, but I would argue that JLC's horological pedigree is so strong that it deserves to be considered in the same breath as the big four.

For one thing, as far as I know JLC has NEVER used an ebauche, while JLC ebauches have been used in PP, VC and AP watches.

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>>58680004
That would be my Audemars Piguet MIllenary 4101 and yes, the other is an original Seiko Aliens in LNIB condition I bought from and Edinburgh collector.

>>58681740
Here m8. Hope you like it.

>>58685176
>I would argue that JLC's horological pedigree is so strong that it deserves to be considered in the same breath as the big four.
Well said m8.

In fact, I would say that there should be a top5:

AL&S, PP, AP, VC and JLC

>>58663206
>celadon

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What's the closest I can find to this?

Lavvocato what are those things in your collection pic near the back left that look like tubes with a bell end

>>58685354
Vc?

>>58685648
Vatek Cilippe.

>>58685645
loupe

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>>58685631
I think what more resembles what you're looking for, is the nixie watch, like pic related.
Be advised, those aren't very well made and also difficult to find, fragile and expensive. Best of lucks.

>someone should developp a better nixie watch, with real cases QC and shit

>>58685645
Those are watchmaker loupes. You put it on your eye and hold it with your face, but are quite useful. Those were given to me by some brands sellers and executives; I have like 15.

>>58685648
Vacheron Constantin

>>58685666
LOL

>>58685631
If you mean specifically a VFD display, just that one. Otherwise old LED watches are your best bet.

Why is Zenith El Primero so coveted?

Is the movement special in some way?

Does it have historical significance?

Personally I find it unappealing.

>>58685174
Not a fan of Reversos to be quite honest. It's difficult for me to accept them as true formal pieces considering the actual purpose of their inception. My Master Control is essentially my go-to for formal events. I also alternate with my Vintage Ingenieur (a tad thick for a dress watch but it's possible with certain shirt cuffs) for less formal events.

>>58685128

The AP just doesn't do it for me. With regards to the GS, I've looked through the line but I find too much of a semblance to my Vintage Ingenieur with the hands and the markers on the GS watches that I do like.

I'm kind of leaning towards adding a Glashutte PanoMatic or another JLC after selling off the SuperOcean.

>>58686385
36,000 bph, cool design on the original, first automatic chrono movement (although seiko beat them to market with the 613x)

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my dream watch being a speedmaster, being way out of my price range, i ordered a bulova moon watch.

really loving it.

>>58686798

Why wouldn't you just continue to save?

>>58686857
because this was expensive. if you can aford a $3k+ watch, you can't afford it.

someday i will ge a speedy, but that day is far away.

How loud is the automatic rotor/mechanism in the Seiko 5? Is it noticeable?

>>58686930
Its actually quiet as fuck. Probably the most quiet watch I own besides my Casio.

>>58684597
That moonphase disk looks nice.

>>58686895

It's not an expensive watch. It's actually fairly affordable.

>>58687449
Maybe in comparison to the top tier watches out there, but to most people (aka poorfags) dishing out $3k on a wristwatch just isn't something that can be done on the drop of a hat.

>>58687465

I'm not saying at the drop of a hat. Did you have to save for a year to buy that watch?

>>58687502
Not him bro. I could get a used speedy right now for about $3k, but I have shit I need to pay off first.

That and I'd rather save up for a snow frake.

>>58687511

Then you can't buy a 3k watch.

>>58687703
If I wanted to be financially irresponsible I could, but then I don't want to be.

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>>58670773
You can get a raketa one for real cheap. Its not bad :3

>>58682784
Autavia reissue?

>>58680330
That actually looks pretty good.

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r8

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>>58680637
They make decent watches that are a pretty good price when on sale. I got pic related for less than £200 on sale.

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anyone ID the seiko on the top left?

>>58688858
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=seiko+big+date

>>58688888
what a waste of pentas

no this model doesn't show up on that general google search

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>>58688940

>>58688962
>not dagger hands
>not metal bracelet

>>58688970
SUR009. Increase your google-fu.

>>58669357
don't ever shitpost using my watchfu ever again

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Post your Amphibias, we need even more slavshit on /wt/.

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>>58684282
>not everyone has the same taste, idiot
>but your taste is shit
Haha, ok. Kind of shut down your argument there, buddy.

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>>58689603

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About to pull trigger on an snzf for 150 bucks. Is there a better diver for the price I don't know about?

>>58689744
For another $30 or so you can grab an Orient Mako/Ray, which are both very cool.

>>58689744
At this price point its this or the Ray II

>>58680629
If the one on the right didn't say "Diver's", I'd want one.

>>58689776
>>58689792
is the mako and ray better?

>>58689823
Better WR.
In-house movement. Which is nice.

Entirely objective, but better styling too.

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>>58689603
Soon.

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>tfw I want to get rid of my chink 3,50€ denzel Washington watchwhich I bought just for fun to have more space in my box
>tfw too pussy to sell it on eBay and get reported/ bad feedback for selling chink fake shit
>tfw not stupid enoghyti just toss it in the bin
>tfw no gf to give it to and get good gratitude sex in return

Wat do?

>>58690113
Wew. When is this coming out and how much is it going to be?

>>58690156
mod it

>>58690156
>>tfw too pussy to sell it on eBay and get reported/ bad feedback for selling chink fake shit

How can a Daniel Wellington be faked to begin with? It's already chinese garbage.

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>>58689603
Amphifrankirskie reporting in

>>58690169
I like this idea, i could try to replace the dial for a handmade one, any design suggestion?

>>58690175
True, only real difference is the price tag.
I've compared it to my flatmate's real one and it's literally a 1:1 copy except for the case back. People who spent over 100€ on this piece of junk are tasteless retards.

>>58690277
I just opened the case back of the chink DW watch. Where do I have to press to release the stem and take out the dial?

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>>58690391
It doesn't look like I can access de dial by removing the movement, fucking dirty chinks.

>>58687204
Thanks anon

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>>58673886
This is probably next on my list, slide rules get me hard

Also pls r8 my to buy list for the next 4ish years:
>Citizen Nighthawk
>Seiko Turtle
>SARX033
After I graduate pill counting school:
>Sinn 903

>>58689744
I got my memeblue for the same price.
I would bump up to a ray ii if I were you

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>>58689603
Don't have an Amphibia but I do have a Komandirskie.

>>58690653
>memeblue

what's this?

>>58690983
Deep Blue, it's a brand that makes oversized shit watches

>>58690989
T.wristlet

>>58691027
>46mm

he has a point. anything over 42mm is just overcompensating for something tbqh.

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>>58691041
Ok

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>>58690989
>>58691027

He's right. I have 7.5" wrists and wouldn't wear anything over 42mm