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>/g/ swears up and down that VLC is bad >still recomme

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>/g/ swears up and down that VLC is bad
>still recommends VLC in the wiki

https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_Windows_software

Hypocritical much, /g/?

Are we gonna remove that piece of shit VLC from our wiki or what?

VLC hate thread
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VLC is good for versatility, especially if you aren't using GNU/Linux. Other than that it's pretty bloated.
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>>58649644
VLC is good for nothing.
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>>58649605
VLC isn't bad... it is however below average and there are better alternatives out there, namely MPC-HC and MPV.
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>>58649605
No one maintains the wiki, dumbass
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>>58649605
>Are we gonna remove that piece of shit VLC from our wiki or what?

Do it yourself faggot if it bothers you, that's the whole point.
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>>58649667
>2%
>4%
big fucking deal
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>>58649605
Kys
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>>58649858
>wasted RAM and processing power is good
Kys
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Hating VLC is a meme. There's nothing wrong with it.
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No-one on /g/ contributes to the wiki. The wiki is 75% a mixture of mostly 8ch, lainchan, and Endchan. The wiki serves as the wiki for all technology boards on all imageboards.
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>>58650086
>Hating VLC is a meme
Nope.

Supporting VLC year after year, failure after failure is the meme.
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>>58650149
>Supporting software that works is a meme
Your lunch break is probably over soon, probably about time to get back to class sport.
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>>58650086
Tech illiterate detected. VLC is a joke in every tech discussion.
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>>58650235
And yet there is no good alternative. MPC-HC is long dead and mpv is meh.
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>>58650235
Every tech discussion on /g/ maybe, but /g/ is full of children.
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>>58650235
So why is VLC bad exactly? I haven't had any problems with it for a long time.
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>>58650272
The playback is shit. Artifacts show up especially when seeking and the devs ignore longstanding bugs solely to ensure compatibility with dead formats from the Kazaa era.
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What other alternatives do I have for android?
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>>58650331
Weird, I have been using it for several years now and haven't experienced any artifacts.
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>>58650340
It's fine on Android since they are forced to use Android playback tech. Just don't use it on desktop.
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>>58650378
Gotcha. I've been using mpv over VLC on desktops anyway.
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>>58650433
mpv is already usable for android but we are waiting for it to get to VLC level before everybody switches.
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>>58650554
There's an android version?
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>>58649984
>wasted RAM in megabytes
OH THE HUMANITIES!!! The last time that was an issue for me was four years ago.
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>>58650331
What bugs? Give specifics, otherwise this is a bullshit answer.

Also one of VLCs major perks is that it supports "dead formats from the Kazaa era"
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>>58649605
VLC is bad. It glitches out all the time. However all other video players are so amazingly catastrophically horrible that VLC remains the best, especially on windows.

MPC-HC is a joke for weaboo faggots
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>>58651269
Artifacts are a result of hard drive seeking/accessing, also happens when you use its streaming feature. Not a bug, get better hardware/internet.
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What do you guys think of DAUM™ Potplayer
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>>58650794
yes
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>>58651287
So VLC has issues that can be only fixed by replacing hardware while other players do not have this issue, and VLC is still better?

It's amazing how far some people go to defend just about anything, but claiming something is superior when it's obviously not is just retarded.
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MPV IS MVP
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>>58649984
>wasted RAM
used RAM
FTFY
And indeed, there is nothing wrong with using RAM.
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>>58651469
This, so much this. When will people realize that unused RAM is wasted RAM?

It's not using RAM as efficiently, but it is NOT wasting RAM!
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>>58650086
/thread

It plays literally any file, yet morons on /g/ recommend that amateur hour piece of trashware mpv over it.
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>>58649984
>Kys
>>>/reddit/
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>>58650554
VLC has SAMBA support. Unless you can get that, mpv will NEVER reach VLC on Android.
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>>58651469
>>58651503
>less efficient software is good
XD
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>>58651521
mpv streams over samba on windows and linux so we will probably get it
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>>58651490
I've played files on mpv that vlc couldnt.
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>>58651538
No you haven't.
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>>58649984
yeah totoally. my 1921 thinkpad x pro has only 12mb of ram so i need that extra 1% for my hi10p animes

>>58651536
but not native samba browsing. it took VLC years to add that in.
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>>58651538
i've played files on vlc that mpv couldn't
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>>58651551
I really have, it was a poorly wncoded avi file.
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>>58651529
>100mb RAM usage matters at all
Kek, please be joking.
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>>58651553
we just use the system file browser for that on desktop. it wouldn't be hard to get SMB support on Android.
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>>58651564
You're lying and everybody knows it.
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The only thing I actually admired from VLC that its actually can play corrupted files without proning to crash.
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>>58651553
>it took VLC years to add that in.
>years
vlc devs are retards confirmed
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>>58651583
kek, whatever you say. Use what you want, I'll use mpv.
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>>58651596
>implying you don't keep VLC installed just in case mpv fucks up again, which it inevitably will.
ok goy
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>>58651596
I havent used vlc in years, there hasnt been any need to.
Look vlc is fine, I have nothing against it. It's just that there are better players that can give me better playback, and that's the most important thing for me.
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>>58651668
meant for
>>58651627
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>>58651362
>>It's amazing how
No the point of my statement is that VLC does not have artifacts, artifacts are generated in the image when it can't access the the file it's meant to be reading fast enough.

Other players will just hang or freeze up instead of displaying artifacts, pick your poison.

It amazes me how far some people will go to not use their brain
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>>58649605
Removed it from the wiki.
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>>58651697
>It amazes me how far some people will go to not use their brain
Welcome to /g/.
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>>58651668
>It's just that there are better players that can give me better playback, and that's the most important thing for me.
It's just that /g/ told me I was a noob if I used VLC, and I desperately want to belong, that's the most important thing for me.

FTFY
Also
>implying you don't keep VLC installed just in case mpv fucks up again, which it inevitably will
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>>58651948
gtfo retard
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>>58651948
who hurt you, anon?
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>>58651970
Great rebuttal cuck

>>58651981
>y u mad tho?
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>>58652000
yes, why are you mad? Is because someone prefers one media player over another?
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>>58649605
is there any feature that mpv has but vlc hasn't except that ugly theme of mpv
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>>58652068
Quiet child, let the grown ups talk.
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>>58649605
>/g/ is a person
VLC is fine to keep around if you need some really weird features once in a blue moon, i.e. not worth learning how to do it in a better, less obvious player, like mpv
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>>58652091
Nice deflection
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>>58650177
notepad.exe works, too. but it's still shit
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>>58652104
>waaaaaaaaaa
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>>58652133
>he calls himself an adult
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>>58649605
>>/g/ swears up and down that VLC is bad

Weeb shitposting

Best kept secrets in the world:

1) All the popular video players are good.

2) You have to rape your processors with fancy algorithms and pixel hunt just to notice the smallest gain in video quality, unless the content in illustrated/animated, hence the weeb shitposting

3) You should choose your video player based on compatibility and the features you want
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>>58652151
>I need attention
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>>58652170
seems like it
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seems like faggot OP already removed vlc from wiki page
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>>58652191
facepalm
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>14:57, 25 January 2017 Kirosaima (Talk | contribs) m . . (44,482 bytes) (-271) . . (Removed VLC due to agreed dislike of it on the board.)

we did it, /g/
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Even /tv/ knows that VLC sucks.
>Shit quality upscaling, no features to ensure "perfect playback" without repeated frames and motion judder. Shit subs. Just few major flaws that came into my mind, there is much more.
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>>58652226
there's also agreed like on waterfox too why don't they add it?
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>>58652274
Waterfox is a meme browser
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>>58652294
>Pale Moon tends to be behind on security updates, so use with caution
so is palememe
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>>58649605
VLC is normie trash, professionals like me use mpv.
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>>58649605
>Ask why VLC is bad now
>Don't get a single legitimate response

Wow, /g/ does it again. Software gets too popular? It's shit now!

This is truly a cesspool. Nothing but meme shitters, hipsters and tech illiterate conspiracy retards from /pol/
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>>58652361
>I didn't read the thread

Fuck off retard
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>>58649662
Best phone video player I've encountered.
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>>58652370
Unfortunately, I did read the thread. What a waste of time.
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>>58652361
For example >>58652261
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>>58649605
VLC is the best player. Customisable, plays everything, cross platform, lightweight too.
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>>58652444
do you ever not shitpost?
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>>58652444
>>58649667

>inb4 wasted ram meme
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>>58652444
You mean SMPlayer is the best.
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>>58652444
>mpc-portable
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>>58652444
Ding ding ding, we've got a winner here, trips for truth people, get em while they're fresh.
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>>58652403
Show some evidence, I've never experienced those issues.
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>>58652444
>>58652512
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>>58652444
Weird, when I set all players to hwdec and have them all play simultaniously mpv uses the least resources.
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>>58652512
And the prize for being the greatest retard goes to...
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>>58652577
wew lad, 32,1mb!

Do you people not have at least 8gb of RAM or something? How poor can you be?
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>>58652572
Oh look, a contextless screenshot, really made me think, I hate vlc now.
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>>58652619
>missing the point

also this is with 8GB of RAM
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>>58652594
Anyone who mindlessly hates VLC because it's popular
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>>58652625
see >>58652444
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>>58652639
What's the point?
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>>58652572
how did you even managed to hit %72 cpu did you try to play a 4k video on vlc while mpv was idle?
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>>58652655
If you cant tell from reading >>58652577 than just leave
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>>58652647
>Internet Explorer is popular
>VLC is popular
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>>58649667
>it's fucking nothing
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>>58652639
kek, what point idiot? 32mb is literally nothing if you have 8gb... You are the one missing the point.

>>58652648
You also miss the point... The screenshot doesn't show what the programs are doing. It's silly and misleading, typical of the mpv circlejerk here.
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>>58652678
>logic
kekt, gr8 b8 m8
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>>58652677
>can't even make a point

lmao, okay kid
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>>58652655
>>58652695
the point is mpv doesnt use more resources than vlc you retards.
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>>58652695
Nobody cares. MPV is obviously better and more efficient. Assaulting people with the "le poorfag xd" meme doesn't help your argument.
Better/efficient code = better software.
This isn't even the only MPV's victory over VLC.
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>>58652670
>wowporn
KEK

Last time I got close to three quarters of CPU usage with a video player was when I tried to play 720p HEVC on a dual core Athlon 64 processor.
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>>58652678
And /g/ hates both of them
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>>58652726
> >>58652444
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>>58652726
But what the fuck is your point? How does this affect anyone in the real world?
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>>58652726
Hahahaha, oh shit, mpv cucks would use that picture to 'prove' how ""superior"" it is over vlc. (they think 32mb lives matter) My bad anon, my bad.
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>>58652745
I think its already establiahed that you're just a shitposter
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>>58652730
Actually, programs that use resources available to them are more efficient. If RAM is sitting there unusued, it is not being used efficiently.

One might say VLC is more efficient because it is better software, even though it uses slightly more RAM.
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>>58652670
yep, but mpv wasn't idle
And vlc couldn't even play it, it froze at the 1st frame and played audio only, great player...
mpv plays it almost flawlessly, with a bit of stuttering
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>>58652730
>MPV is obviously better and more efficient.
>obviously

Hmm, no. It might be a tiny bit more efficient, but it doesn't play half the files vlc does, so it's still shit.
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>>58652730
>less functionality
>less RAM

whoaaa dude so efficient
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>>58651697
You would really prefer a grey screen due to a missing keyframe, rather than simply pausing to buffer? It's more important to you that the playback never stops even you're missing entire sections of video? VLC is shit at streaming.
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>>58652785
I'm one of the few people on /g/ who are actually helping other users (: So, no.
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>>58652814
retard, they both use ffmpeg for decoding you know?
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Linux? Bwa haha.

FreeBSD is where it's at.

Try out TrueOS!
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>>58652798
No, you're wrong.
>>58652814
It can open whatever VLC can, you idiot.
>>58652818
More functionality, actually.
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>>58652785
sorry no, you shit posted a helpful user.
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>>58652883
>It can open whatever VLC can

This is what mpv cucks actually believe
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>>58652895
>Femanon
>no tits
>helpful

yeah ok faggot
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>>58652830
Thanks for keeping /g/ free from needless shitposts like the shitposter who projected his shitposting needlessly.
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>>58652808
if it really hit to %72 i understand you to use mpv; but for most of computers it's nothing but 20 mb more ram, so i'll stay with vlc thanks
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>>58652914
cringe
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>>58652914
>>58652830
samefag
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>>58649713
Written by one fucking autist that was made a mod and the backlash when he initially posted it was huge. It doesn't represent /g/ and the sticky is forced.
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>>58652883
You're going to have to explain all of that rather than just saying "you're wrong".
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>>58649644
>Other than that it's pretty bloated.

Oh no! Wait. It's a good thing I have 4GB RAM and can handle a program that uses 300MB.
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>>58652558
Which issues, retard? You obviously dont even understand what that guy is talking about. Why do you even post your opinion on /g/ if youre tech illiterate?
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>>58652444
absolutely true.

what is mpv but a windows 10 resource hog?
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>>58652957
All of them. Post evidence, it should be easy enough if it's such a common issue.
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>>58649667
>>58652577

why does less than 5% cpu usage difference matter when all I'm doing is watching a movie or video?

I mean less ram/cpu usage is usually a good thing, but it doesn't really matter in this case.
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>>58652594
that shitposter who shitposted femanon.
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>>58652619
i can do as much as you with my 2GB dual core, only it takes 3 to 10 times longer.
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Video player that doesn't utilize shaders is a joke.
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>>58652896
Show me a file it can't open then. Hint, you can't. >>58652874
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>>58652971
I open streams and let them play in background, while doing other things, or on a small windows "pinned" to front. Low CPU usage matters. RAM-wise, all players use the same amount, 100-130MB (look at the "Working set").
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>>58652361
My main problem with VLC was always that when seeking it would often create artefacts on the image (at best), desync a/v or crash the player (at worst).
It's not a terrible player and I recommend it to anyone who is still using quicktime/wmp, but I personally prefer MPV because it is much smoother and snappier.
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>>58652985
Even with 2GB 32mb doesn't make any difference.
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>>58652808
i am assuming you downloaded the latest version of vlc and enabled all the codecs?
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>>58652997
Please be joking.
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>>58653039
You're the one who's joking. Fuck off shitposter.
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>>58652444
>>58652745
PEBCAK
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>>58653016
3.0
>enabled all the codecs?
yes, I wouldn't be able to see the 1st non black frame if codec was disabled
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>>58652374
>not using MX Player
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>>58653008
>Low CPU usage matters
Then mpv would be better >>58653174
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>>58653286
Nope: >>58652444
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>>58653346
Post logs and config, or gtfo.
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Just the best.
>A clone of Media Player Classic reimplimented in Qt.
>Media Player Classic Home Cinema is considered by many to be the quintessential media player for the Windows desktop. Media Player Classic Qute Theater (mpc-qt) aims to reproduce most of the interface and functionality of mpc-hc while using libmpv to play video instead of DirectShow.
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>>58651469
The concern is that it's wasting it by using it (for nothing) when it could be free (used by cache / other programs)

If you can spend 8MB of RAM to watch a video, or 200MB of RAM to watch a video, given no other differences, one of those is actually a "better" option.
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>>58653390
>reproduce most of the interface and functionality of mpc-hc
>while using libmpv
THAT'S FUCKING AWESOME TbH
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>>58653390
Wait is it basically mpv for normal people?
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>>58653390
Fuck that bloated UI
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>>58653414
Pretty much
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>>58653414
I think it may very well be.

Although it will NEVER EVER be accessible even to 90% of Linuxers as long as it requires you to compile libmpv yourself
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>>58653450
Thats pretty cool. Good to have some backup to madVR.
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>>58653446
>doesnt see an X at playlist
>muh minimalism
kys
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>>58652947
Is there a central knowledge location that is /g/ approved?

What does /g/ think of the logical increments Firefox /g/uide?
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>>58653474
It's still bloated. Look at how much space is wasted.
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>>58653446
You can hide the ui for posting in your psuedo-linux Circlejerk thread
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>>58653396
Yes, but VLC is better software that only uses a measly 30MB of additional RAM. The choice is obvious. Now if VLC was using 1GB of RAM, then the choice would clearly be the opposite. It's all about context and real-world scenarios.
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>>58653550
I was putting a counterargument to the people blindly shitting out the "UNUSED RAM IS WASTED RAM" meme

I know that VLC has its uses, in fact it's what I recommend to everyone not technically inclined enough to handle MPV.

But that doesn't make RAM-use-for-the-sake-of-RAM-use a good thing in any capacity.
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mpv for lesser operating systems
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>>58653583
>But that doesn't make RAM-use-for-the-sake-of-RAM-use a good thing in any capacity.

It would only seem that way to someone who doesn't know what it loaded into memory. Thing is, the difference in RAM usage is so minimal that it becomes a moot point in 2017- even minimalists have to lie to make it seem like a big deal.
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>>58650266
I kind of agree with this

but

MPV is extremely powerful and does absolutely everything I need (except integrated not-shit playlist management,) though
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>>58649605
>Windows
>GIMP
>KCP
huehuhuehuheueh
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>>58649644
It being bloated isn't VLC's problem
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>>58652830
You do realize that 4chan is archived on 3rd party sites and since you post with a stupid name, every single one of your posts is archived and attributed to you.
So it's really easy to see how full of shit your claim is.
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>>58654358
I know. Go check. Who do you think found the 4 updates that fix wu on 7?
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>>58651445
/thread
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>>58654263
>[VLC] being bloated isn't VLC's problem
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>>58654674
Allow me to rephrase for anon: VLC's bloat isn't why it is hot garbage.
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>>58654624
I just looked up some of your posts. The shit you said about VPNs, virtual desktops, your software shilling in general.
You're beyond fucking stupid and have zero idea on what you're talking about.
Filtered.
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>>58654983
>hurr i don't agree with you; i'm taking my toys and play elsewhere
>>>/tumblr/ is that way, crying bitch
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I'm a famous streamer. Not fag twitch steamer I'm talking illegal sports broadcasting. And VLC is integral to me. It rarely crashes and I use it intensively. Anyone dissing it is a faggot idiot
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>>58655090
its fine for streaming because thats what it was designed for. As for local file playback it just isnt as good as mpc-hc or mpv.
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>>58655169
Agreed.

Yes exclusively for streaming. It's flawless and I similarly use acestream which is slightly bigger for obvious reasons.

For playback I use potplayer. Smooth as butter where VLC fails in that regard
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Slightly buggier*
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>>58651288
I love it, never had any problem, only downside is that the settings are almost too in-depth, but I feel like if I took the time to learn them it'd be an upside
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>>58654756
What IS its problem, then?

I'm an MPV shill myself, but VLC seems reasonably good in most aspects
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>>58652361
VLC is bad because it crashes when you feed a youtube link into it. In 2017.
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>>58656253
>but VLC seems reasonably good in most aspects

not really
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wtf I hate mpv now
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>>58656714
MPV supports hardware decoding
But the guy who made it has severe autism and so it's not enabled out-of-the-box.
add
>hwdec=yes
to your config file.

Also, that video is VP9, isn't it? Which will rape ANY CPU. Try that format in VLC and see what happens.
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>>58656761
>VP9, isn't it? Which will rape ANY CPU.
*I meant 4K VP9 will rape any CPU.
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>>58656761
>Video: HEVC 3840x2160 59.94fps 37.1 Mbps [V: hevc main 10, yuv420p10le, 3840x2160]
>Q: What kind of hardware do I need to play it?
>A: At this moment, only one card on the market is capable of decoding HEVC Hi10p. It is GeForce GTX 960.

And just joking, VLC plays only one frame of that file and then gets stuck.
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>>58649605
>Windows software
top kek
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>>58650107
How come? Arent we a technology board?
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Op is a faggot. I once had to convert amr to mp3 on windows and the only sane way was to use vlc. Moreover, mpv still has hardware issues on windows. Having vlc means you can do anything video or audio related - stream video or watch it, use it as a stream server etc. Fuck you, OP, for ignoring the opinions of about the galf of the anons ITT
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>>58649605
t. mpv dev. go back to your mpv general. if it isnt up make it.
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>>58656788
kaby lake does too now

also: http://jell.yfish.us/
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>>58656761
>Also, that video is VP9, isn't it? Which will rape ANY CPU.
VP9 decoder is faster than even h.264
https://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2015/09/28/vp9-encodingdecoding-performance-vs-hevch-264/
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