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Sticky changed from x220 to x230 now?

>>58631252
x230 is pretty affordable by now

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>got a t420 with a worn touchpad, ordered a replacement palmrest
>only after it was shipped I realized I could have just replaced the touchpad sticker

>>58631252
Is x230 is pretty much superior in everyway considering you can swap the new keyboard with the classic one.

>>58631559
you literally could have just peeled the sticker off and not bought anything

good job, anon

>>58631722
>>58631412
>>58631252

I don't agree with this decision

Bought a T420 and the bezel is broke.

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

I bet one of you cunts sold it to me.

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Reminder that only manlets buy the X series.

How are the new keyboards compared to the old mechanicals?

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>still too lazt to drop old hdd back into the r30
>hdd for r52 died too
>down to like 4 working thinkpads

Souped up x230 or an entry level X1

>>58632204
x230

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T420 fag here upgraded to 8gb ram 240gb ssd and Linux mint 18.1

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>>58632237
how many spare SODIMM slots does the x230 have

>>58632286
has 2 RAM slots
usually comes with one without a RAM stick

>>58632300
and I assume it only supports up to 16 GB?

>>58632307
I think so, yes.

I've got a t430 that I got new back in October 2012
is it just my (((consumerism))) telling me to drop money on a new laptop or is 5 years a reasonable time in which to replace a laptop

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I fell for the meme and bought a ThinkPad.

A X1 Carbon, 2014 model. Yes, the one with the stupid keyboard. It was cheap, specs were good and I didn't think the 2014 model would be special.

Still well worth the price.

Clit mouse is absolutely stupid and I never use it.

Keyboard is okay, no better than that of my previous Sony laptop.

When I play games or run any other GPU intensive work, the CPU is throttled to 800 MHz after a few seconds at 68°C. WTF, I hate Intel now.

>>58632263
1600x900 screen size?

just installed the IPS display on my x230. Cant believe i lived with that shitty tn panel for so long. Its not just the viewing angles that have improved the contrast ratio is leagues ahead. Black actually looks black now.

>>58631412
I am on the verge of obtaining an x220, though x230 are still a bit pricey for me.

>>58632383
Please kill yourself

>>58632476
rude

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Just tried to install Windows 7 using the product key underneath the battery but it didn't work.

What gives?

>>58631799
The touchpad without the sticker is unusable desu.

>>58632637
Install Windows 7 and Daz Windows Loader.

Upgrade to Windows 10 (no, this will not turn acessibility options on by default):
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade

Then do a clean install of Windows 10. Your computer will be registered on Microsoft servers and you will not need a key for that.

If you want to downgrade to Windows 7 or 8.1, then do so. Open the Start menu and select Settings. Click the “Update & security” icon and select “Recovery.” You should see a “Go back to Windows 7” or “Go back to Windows 8.1” option. Click the Get started button to get rid of your Windows 10 install and restore your previous Windows install. This downgrade will be registered and activated.

>>58630926
Does anyone here use Lenovo IdeaPad 510?
Is it worth buying?

>>58632760
That doesn't sound legit senpai.

Gonna try the Thinkpad recovery CD see if that works.

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>d-dare i say it?

>>58632780
Welp, it works. For other options your mileage may vary.

I'm building a *60 frankie, so I don't care terribly much about the source of the several parts, provided that they work together.

I have a T60, but I might use an R60 because it is thicker and I can fit a Blu-ray drive (and possibly other things) inside its larger Ultrabay slot.

should I buy a T61p off ebay and upgrade the ram and add a SSD over time?

>>58630926
i think we should change t420 to t430 also. it wouldnt make sense otherwise.

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>>58632794
NO

>>58632383
go back to reddit, faggot

>>58632430
how is battery life after the mod?

Which WLAN interface is the recommended one for the x230 running gnu/linux with stock bios?

Will a core2 duo t60 on win 7 64bit use 4gb ddr2? What is the max?

Do Dell offer any docking stations that can do 2 4K monitors at 60Hz over DisplayPort?
I have a Latitude E7250, and the 1080p screen is nice and all but I want to be able to hook up my 2 4K monitors.
If not, I'll guess I'll sell this and buy something else

>>58632430
Where did you buy it from?
I bought one from Aliexpress and it was a faulty item. Colors were very faded.
I didnt want to go through the hassle of returning it and Aliexpress fucked me over and I didn't get any compensation.

Which is the most /tpg/ approved?

The T series or the X series.

For that anon that asked me to do a vid on swapping chiclet keys on a 30 series thinkpad for a classic keyboard:

https://youtu.be/sncnKB54c4g

>>58633612
Both, just keep this in mind >>58632126

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>ChinkPad without thackpoint

Lenovo pls stop

>>58633852
*trackpoint

Stop buying Thinkpads.

>>58633877
Nah

serious question, how do you guys scroll on your x230?

You can't scroll with 2 fingers on the trackpad

>>58633949
you can

>>58633949
You probably have gestures disabled.

Trackpad is absolute horseshit tho, trackpoint is way better

>>58633977
>>58633973
I'm a computer illiterate, how do i enable it?

>>58623470
How to find it on Aliexpress?

>>58633995
Search for mouse settings, in the window that pops up there will be a navbar tab. There you can adjust trackpad settings

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>>58634014
am i doing something wrong here? I searched high and low but no such settings exist

>>58634203
That's odd, if I remember correctly that's where the tab should be. Are your drivers updated?

>>58634203
its missing the thinkpad tab. update/install drivers

>>58634251
>>58634226
gonna do that right now, thanks

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Finally completed (might be rotated)

A31p 2654-MU2
1.7GHz Pentium 4
2GB DDR RAM
60GB PATA HDD
ATI Mobility FireGL 7800
Flexview 1600 X 1200
DVD Drive & Ultrabay NumberPad
Extended Dock w/ CD/DVD Drive

>>58633852
At least they keep the bezel trend.

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>>58634431
Nice

>>58634431
>This isn't even my final form

>>58634431
How does the camera connect? is there a USB port on top of the lid?

>T470 revealed
>same shitty screen as the T460

will Lenovo ever stop putting garbage screens in Thinkpads? is a 1080p panel with decent colors, brightness and no PWM too much to ask for? literally the only reason I went with Dell instead

why is the x1 carbon not recommended?

>>58634733
But anon, modern 3:2 panels are 3000p high.

>>58633731
That's awesome! Really well done.
Thank you so much!

>>58634251
is it normal for drivers to take over an hour to install?

i've waited an hour for 1 component and it doesn't seem to be showing signs of progress

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Got a memepad and it's full of bloat.

REEEEEEEEEE

>>58635376
>1600x900
how did u get a used thinkpad fill of bloat

>>58634750
They're not good for frugal nor for upgrade hobby.

People who bought X1C:s new complained a lot about hardware problems and build quality issues. There's also the thing with X1C 2nd gen
keyboard >>58632383

>>58635418
My friend had one he didn't use and I remembered that it's a meme on /g/ so I offered him £100 for it.

>>58634976
No problem!

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>>58630926

H-HEY GUYS I just bought this shitpad T420 for 25$

HOW'D I DO? HOW'D I DO??

>>58632263
>mint
If you feel comfortable around mint and the command line try to install an ubuntu micro. If you want to be hacky try i3. Productivity +3.

>>58632401
>size
resolution
size is always the same with t420

>>58632993
>stock bios
read about coreboot and the intel me abuse

>>58633284
If I understand correctly you want to use your E7250 instead of a normal desktop?

>>58633490
>aliexpress
>expecting good quality
Sorry, but choose one.

>>58633612
I would say X if you have a small backpack or take it with you every day. Every other case: get a T420.

1600x900 panels in t420/430 are all TN?
If yes since which configuration they started to put IPS inside?

>>58636115
>Every other case: get a T420
Objectively wrong.

>>58636176
15" Thinkpads had IPS screens for a long time until Lelnovo bought the line. They didn't bring back IPS screens in T series until the --40 generation, which is where Thinkpads hit rock bottom with complete garbage like >>58632383

>>58634707
Nah, they have like 8 gold pins that contact each other. Pretty strange.

>>58636176
T440p/s started to get IPS panels, however in 1920 x 1080 res. T60 was the last IPS option T series before that which was 4:3 SXGA+ or UXGA.

THOUGHTS ON THE X TABLET SERIES?

>>58636348
so does 520-530 have ips panels?

And how about that panels in 430-420 can you guy objectively grade them?

How are HP Elitebooks not considered objectively superior? They are less expensive through ebay and craigslist and generally seem to have equal or greater specs.

>>58636507
hp keyboards are way more shitty than tp keyboards. beside that they are nice machines.

>>58633852
I don't even use my trackpoint anymore.

>>58636556
There isn't a reason to now that trackpads are Great Again™

Years ago it was the only way to do things without rubbing your finger around like a jackass. Oh yea, multitouch gestures too.

t420 is standard laptop

>>58636556
get out

i got x220
do you guys have any suggestions how to cover camera except tape?

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>>58636416
They are okay and a guaranteed way to get the IPS panel

>>58636648
RTFM

then disconnect the camera cable from mobo.
that way theres no need to put tape like a tin foil hat idiot.

>>58636648
remove it?
block it on BIOS?

>>58630926

> X230 - 12.5", ultraportable

No

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What does /tpg/ think about T450 ?

>>58636668
Wait a second, all of them have IPS?

>>58636800
all Tablet Versions have IPS
(the newer ones, not the X60T/X61T)

>>58636852
including x210 and x220?

>>58636507
there's a lot to be said about the community surrounding old thinkpads. there's a half dozen places on the internet where some nerd will answer every single question you might have about them.

no one's really doing elitebook mods with the same insane fervor. custom bios, keyboard swap, panel swaps (with custom cables and adapter boards), BRAND NEW MOTHERBOARDS

stuff like that aside, yeah sure. elitebook is a fine alternative and there's probably some good deals we're missing out on while jerkin it over thinkpads

>>58636852
This man is surely fucking with me.

>>58636922
X220 Tablet? guaranteed.
X201 Tablet? no idea, probably not (AFFS?)

point is, X220t and x230t all have IPS.

>>58636852
>>58636987

Citation needed.

>>58636784
Where's the Thinkvantage button?

>>58637081
What do you use ThinkVantage for?

xset dpms force off

>>58636999
thinkwiki mentions only two screens options for x220t, the one with touchscreen and the one with only pen support. both are listed as IPS

and i have own three x220t and all have been equipped with IPS screens.

>>58637081
>button
Thinkvantage is a mindset.

>>58637121

Launches Konsole.

Why are all of the x230t reviews I find on the Lenovo site so terrible?

>>58636423
>And how about that panels in 430-420 can you guy objectively grade them?
They objectively belong in a trash bin, even the 1600x900 panel in those models is shit.
520-530 also do not have IPS panels, but their 1920x1080 one is a very good nearly-IPS tier TN panel. 1600x900 on these models is decent enough. The 1366x768 panel, however, is awful even ignoring the resolution.

>>58637081
useless

>>58636999
https://support.lenovo.com/documents/pd015807
>12.5-inch (317.5mm) HD (1366 x 768) TFT color
>Display (IPS)
Tablet models only have one (1) panel.

>>58637121
toggles CPU fan from auto to max speed.

>>58637281
Do you want to cook your CPU? Or do you put your fucking Thinkpad on a pile of tendies for a nice little afternoon heat-n-eat?

>>58637206
1600-9000 on 520-30 is decent but on 4 series are trash? They are not the same quality panels?

>>58637334
What's a "4 series" ?

>>58637334
1600x900*

>>58637348
For the purpose of that sentence equivalence to 520-530 so 420-430.

>>58637379
So you meant '14" models', not '4 series'.
No, the panels in 14" and 15" models are not of the same quality.

>>58637443
ok, thanks.

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I SHOWED UP TO /g/ TWO DAYS AGO AND LURKED THIS THREAD LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER

And I just bought my first Thinkpad. Had no intentions of buying one when I came to browse. Literally came from /k/ where I bought a bunch of meme parts I saw on /arg/ and put $1500 into an AR that I haven't even finished yet because I cant get the MD tight enough to crush the washer.

So now what? Where can I get a good stylus? Is chinkshit the only way to go? Also, does an ssd really the magic pill it's made out to be? Can my system really use 16gb ram?

>>58637507

jesus christ, what happened to that laptop

>>58633995
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TrackPoint#Middle_button_scroll

>>58637507
Did it not come with a stylus?

>>58637628
Looks fine.

>>58637507
eBay. Just search for Thinkpad stylus

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Ordered some upgrades for my X230 :^)

>>58632637
I did the phone activation meme and it worked

>>58633490
I bought it off an Australian supplier.

>>58637866

you're a funny guy anon

>>58637866
Would be better bait if you went the extra mile and just put a Macbook in that cart.

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>>58636507
Mainly religion.
TPs have better community support and thus Linux support.
Comparing my X220 and 8560W:
TP keyboard and clitmouse slightly better. EliteBook trackpad way better.
Elitebook wins build quality by far. Full metal vs. plastic with rollcage.

>>58637973
>Elitebook wins build quality by far.

Define "build quality." If you're just talking about a case you can GTFO and start a fucking /ebg/ containment thread for you and any other faggots who even want to mention shit products and shit brands anywhere on this board let alone this thread.

>>58637972
>implying its bait

sadly, its not.

>>58637866
>$947.75 SSD
>not getting a 5tb drive and a mSATA SSD for the OS https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822179104

What's the best 16gb RAM set you can get for an x230 then?

>>58638127
The cheapest you can get from a reputable manufacturer.

Just an update from me. I was after an enterprise book to use at uni. I had a chance to get a Dell E7240 for $300 dollarydoos but bought the HP 840 G1 instead for $270. It's pretty good.
>i5 4300u
>8gb ram
>1600x900 14" panel
>Good ports, inbuilt 3g, 240gb Intel SSD, battery in good health, body is tough and mark less, backlit kb, clean inside
Obviously if I had more cash back then I'd have searched for the x240 or T440s. However, this 840 was only 200g more and had a 14" screen too compared to 12.5 on the e7240.

What should be my grail notebook? I was thinking the t440s or anything 13-14" with good battery and an IPS screen. There's also the zbook which is quite good. Thanks for all the inspo fags. /blog

>>58638136
This. Us Thinkfags generally go for the cheapest shit we can find. This is what our fandom is based on.

Also Thinkpad IPS BTFO
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thinkpad-x230t-review-benchmark,3229-6.html

Should I really get Windows 7 over Windows 10? What about 8.1? Memes aside.

>>58638355
8.1 is best windows as long as you dont mid using a 3rd party application to unfuck the start menu.
Any installation of windows is botnet so it really doesnt matter.

>>58638355
http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-biggest-barrier-to-windows-10-success-is-still-windows-7/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-windows-7-in-2017-is-so-outdated-that-patches-cant-keep-it-secure/

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2017/01/17/microsoft-windows-7-security-hardware-support-problems/&refURL=https://www.google.com/&referrer=https://www.google.com/

http://bgr.com/2017/01/18/windows-10-upgrade-7-security/


On an older Thinkpad or X220/230 running Windows 8.1 will make it run very hot and very loud. I'm not sure about Windows 10 though. Operating system choice will effect your battery life.

inb4 botnet memes

>>58630926
What's the best 4:3 thinkpad for running vista and browing knowyourmeme.com?
I just wanna be comfy again

>>58637893
>>58632637
Or this here:
bit dot ly slash 2dtfAiz

>>58638621
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4RR1KS5633&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-Mac+-+Notebooks-_-9SIA4RR1KS5633&gclid=CMLMgovi29ECFQsvaQodIhEEaQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

>>58638689
>4:3
I just need to shitpost like it's 2010

>>58638621
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-Eee-PC-12015PEM-Intel-Atom-1-5GHz-2GB-250GB-Win7-prof-/371842172469?hash=item5693854635:g:DocAAOSwNnRYfpZR

If you act within the next 12 min you could have the ultimate in Comfy™ netbooks.

>Dat script at the top left though hnnnng

>>58638787
netbooks aren't comfy though, at least for people with normal sized hands

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>>58638813
Comfy™ is an aesthetic, shitlord.

>>58638830
I can't shitpost in comfort if I can't type

best way to remove windows/intel sticker? These 2 tend to leave a lot of residue.

>>58638888

cum on the sticker

>>58638888
goo gone

>>58638621
X61

Anyone here considered an Asus N56Vm?

Shit is DAMN fast for the the ~$300 budget.

thoughts on the x130e?

What's the better upgrade in an X230?

Replace HDD with SSD or replacing 8gb RAM with 16GB?

>>58636607
no u

>>58639072
What are you using your X230 for?

>>58639072

HDD->SSD. What would you be doing that'd require 16gb of ram on an x230?

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Update on the x230 fhd mod install, nitrocaster offered to troubleshoot for me, so i shipped it off to him.

Now i wait, without a comfy laptop to watch anime on.

REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>58639269
>>58639273


I'm using it as a supplement for my macbook for things I can't run on MacOS. These include Visio and Solidworks. I'm worried about any CAD programs, but would like a machine I can run from a dock at home and take with me wherever I need it.

I just picked one up with Windows 7, 8gb RAM, and a 500mb HDD. I have heard that Win 8.1 and 10 make these run hot.

Hopefully some upgrading will help this. Or did I just waste my money that I could have spent on something newer?

>>58639300
>lainshit

Kill yourself

>>58639300
What is this? What mod?

>>58639398
fhd mod for x230

>>58639434
Whats the power consumption like?

>>58639528

It predicts a little over 6 hours on mine at 60% brightness. Battery is brand new though, 2 charge cycles.

>>58639300

hello dogeitrade

Is it worth buying a 9 cell battery? Or should I just purchase a new chink 6 cell?

When are they gonna renew the workstation models? P71 please?

>>58639631

yes

>>58639631
Yes, 9cell battery or suicide

>>58639631
Do they even make 9-cells anymore?

Someone with an X220t or X230t:

Can I use a USB keyboard when it is in "tablet" mode?

Don't ask why, I am just insanely curious.

>>58639698
A chink 9 cell is made for my 2560p and it's only £18.00, I currently have a 3 cell and it's alright but i'd love to be able to go 6 hours without charging at uni.

>>58639631
>>58639763
>buying chink batteries

>>58639776
Find me a new or second hand 2560p battery for under £30...
there simply isn't one available.

T430 with 16gb, i5, 250gb SSD, Bay = 300€ used.

>>58634007

I got it on eBay. The panel is called LG LP140WD2 (TL)(G1)

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x1 Carbon, less than a year old (he says). $350. meh?

>>58639947
deal

>>58640052
i've watched the price fall on this by about $500 so far...i think he may be getting desperate.

i'm going to ask for specs.

>>58639947
Ifhe's moving, why get rid of the thin laptop of all things?

>>58640083
because craigslist is full of liars and thieves.

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>>58640092
>>58640083
>>58640063
>>58640052
>>58639947
lol. dis nigga. it's a 2012 model. WTF

also, texted both numbers on ad...one said yes it has fingerprint reader the other number said it does not.

>>58636507
I have both, and I prefer the Thinkpad, only because there is no middle click button on my HP, the keyboard is worse, and I have an 8440p, which means that the deidcated buttons for volume and trackpad disabler are not real buttons, but some touchpad thing similar to what Apple wants to put on their macbook. The build qulaity is superior though, and overall, it is a nice laptop. I woulld get another over a newer Thinkpad though.

>>58639072
If you're not using the WWAN card you could put in a mSATA SSD and use the 2.5" HDD for extra space or virtual machines.

Samsung MZ-M5E250BW works fine for me.

>>58640155
if it's too good to be true, then guess what?

>>58640579
>WWAN
Does anyone use this?

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How do you plebs protect your ThinkPad?

Just got a 15.6" one and I'm going to be carrying it around in a backpack. I had a look on eBay and all the cheap shit just looks like fashion accessories that will do fuck all to actually protect it aside from scratches. At the other end of the scale are those fuckhuge metal flight cases but fuck carrying those around.

>>58640846
Source some TPE around 50D shore and get some Super 77 spray adhesive and you've got a permanent impact resistant case

>>58640930
Funny as that would be, I have to sell this thing once I'm done with it.

>>58640930
what

>>58640796
i would use it but some faggot removed it and put a ssd there so i cant. i dont understand why he didnt just use the drive bay

>>58638100
>spinning platters
no thanks

I'm feeling lurker's remorse.

>>58637314
are you that dense?
one way is automatic fan control (which increases and decreases the speed according to the CPU heat output)
and the other just put the fan at max speed.

either way is aiming to low temps. its not "turning off" if you are so retarded that basic english go over you head.

What's a good Thinkpad for University if I'm majoring in Electrical Engineering and minoring in CS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T410-i5-8GB-300GB-Docking-Stn-Recovery-Disk-Pwr-Cord-/252729228098?nma=true&si=umHcJAQpNsRvPYAmz%252B%252Fp2HJe6qc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

After losing 5 straight bids in a row on T420s, I bit the bullet and won this.

From what I read in the last thread (which I read after purchase), I may have made a mistake here.

I'm looking to use this machine as a gaming machine, with some other Windows functionality that my Linux machine doesn't offer. I'm willing to upgrade the GPU, but only if it doesn't cost a huge amount of money.

Did I make a mistake?

>>58641086
Don't like the answer? Then take it TO THE NEXT CAMBODIAN FISHING VILLAGE IMAGESHARING FORUM.

>>58641392
Gee, wonder what's a better system... one that relies on sensors and PWM or one that does the job without it?

Don't even try to come at me with "well less rotations means it'll last longer! A-durr durr durr durr!"

What do /g/? x220 or x230 with changed keyboard?

What is the best 4:3 Thinkpad I can get?

>>58641417
You'll probably want a decent processor for muh compile times and otherwise something not too heavy. So pretty much anything that isnt old or shit will fit the bill. Just look for a T430, X230 or similar model with an i5 or better and it'll do fine.

>tfw new 70++ battery is taking ages to charge

>>58641468
>$178 American
Thats well specced T420 money there anon. You should have been more patient. Docks are cheap and the recovery disks are worthless.
>gaming
>mistake
Yes, You should have saved up to build a "potato" desktop that is more powerful than a 1st generation mobile i5 with no dGPU. If you REALLY want to go down the gaming route with this look into external GPU solutions, but the CPU will bottleneck the fuck out of everything.

>>58641786
Get a 90w adapter.

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>>58641468
That's probably too much to pay for a T410, especially one as ordinary as that.

If you want a better GPU, you'll have to use an external one through the expresscard or mPCIE slots, though I'd make sure that it'll work with the mPCIE before buying one since I'm not sure how compatible the T410's slot is, though it might just be msata that it doesn't take.

>>58641630
Counting chink custom boards: X62, soon T70
Not counting chink custom boards: T601F
No modding at all: T60p

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>>58641812
Its an LB8 anon. Still mediocre, but at least it has the higher res screen.

>>58641808
I do have a 90W adapter

Battery is taking about 3.5 hrs to go from 30% to 100%

What is the best thing to put in an express card slot?

>>58641803
>>58641812
Well, this is my own fault for the exact reason you described - I was impatient. Guess I'm getting what I overpaid for.

At the same time, none of my games are particularly graphic intensive and graphics don't trigger my autism as long as the game runs. It'll mostly be just to play some Borderlands with my brother, most graphic intensive game would likely be Alien Isolation. Doable at base model? I have fallout 4 but I wouldn't expect to be able to play it.

Any suggestions on which distro will work the best for the tablet features on a x220t? I've tried to use magick rotation but it is not working on mint 17

Aside from the retro-hipster circlejerk thing, what is the advantage of old hardware over new?

>>58641934
either an eGPU, SSD, or USB ports, depending on what you need.

I'm starting to loathe the x220's resolution. Everything else is so perfect except the fucking 1366x768 res

Where can I find a expresscard 54 SSD for sale?
Are they worth it?

>>58641686
so is this good? https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01BPEM714%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-ffsb-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB01BPEM714

i don't want to spend $1k on something, because i can spend that on a real PC, but I don't want to gimp myself for the future.

Will a VPN keep me safe on Windows 7 SP1?

>>58641846
Fair enough, though that panel is pretty shit either way, even though the dimensions are nice.

>>58641963
Borderlands 1 might be playable, but don't be surprised if you can't get a great framerate even with shit settings. Anything much more intensive than that probably wont work out, my T410 with a discrete GPU struggles enough as it is, though at least you shouldn't have to deal with limited memory like it does.

>>58642023
A TV tuner would probably suit some people as well. In most cases USB3 is ideal though, just because its cheap and most laptops with expresscard slots don't support it.

>>58641976
The improvements to laptops in the last few years have been pretty minor. You're mostly looking at battery life improvements, and minor reductions in size/weight. On top of that most laptops now use ultra-low-power processors which end up being about as powerful as a 3rd gen one anyway. As a result, if you, like most of /g/, don't need more than a few hours of battery life, then there's not too much reason to buy new when an old model is a fraction of the price.

>>58642093
Ebay.

>>58641963
>Alien Isolation
Nope.
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-HD-Graphics-Arrandale-06670766-GHz-vs-Nvidia-GeForce-GT-430/m7694vsm7745

>>58642096
I'm not that familiar with how UM processors perform with real work loads, but I wouldn't be too keen on that one. Have a look at benchmarks and decide for yourself I guess.

Otherwise it's pretty average, a better screen and an SSD would go a long way. I'm not too familiar with prices in America but I'm reasonably sure that that's overpriced, looking on ebay would be your best bet.

This worth $40?
>T60
>3gb ddr3
>t5600 1.83ghz core2duo
>1400x1050
>ati x1300
>with dock

>>58642278
*3gb ddr2
*9 cell battery

>>58639376
I'd go with the 16 GB RAM then. Cheaper option, too.

>>58632365
This is offensive. Delete this and apologize to your T430

>>58642278
That's a Pretty good deal if you want an older Thinkpad.

Will Kubuntu work well on my X220? It only has 6gb of ram but looking into getting it up to 8gb when I can.

>>58632365
I'm in a similar situation except with an E530. I decided to actually look into an upgrade just because I wanted more processing power, but just going off benchmarks, my best options look like either a T430 with an i7 or a W530, unless I spend an obscene amount of money on a P model or similar which would barely offer more power than the W530 anyway.

I'm a bit underwhelmed that 5 years on, my ideal upgrade is something of the same generation, but coming from an Edge, it'd still be a decent improvement to have actual build quality and a decent screen.

>>58642389
No reason why not. I'm not too sure how stable KDE is on Ubuntu though, but it's not like it'd be hard to change DE.

>>58642463
Maybe I should find another KDE then. Using Xubuntu right now, but kind of want to try something else.

just ordered i7-3630qm with grizzly kryonaut for my t430

will post load temp results on 1/30

>>58642487
If you've already got Ubuntu installed, then just install KDE and see if you're happy with it and if it doesn't crash too much. I'd assume Kubuntu is going to be much the same but it comes riced and with QT based programs installed as the defaults.

>>58642389
it'll run pretty damn hot compared to even gnome, but it'll run.

>>58642532
I see, I'll try that. Thanks!

>>58642535
Huh, maybe I won't then.

>>58642148
PureVPN has a 2 years for $53.99 holiday deal going on right now. Software has split tunneling option, p2p torrenting, and is based in china. also has an app for android

>>58642535
KDE isn't that intensive, or at least once you disable the compositor I don't see why it'd be much worse than other DEs.

My biggest problem with the performance is just that it takes a while to actually start, even with an SSD.

>>58642570
If you could try something like LXQT if you want a QT based DE, it's pretty comfy though you might want to change the WM to xfce's one or something if you find openbox too basic.

Accidentally broke one of those clips above the screen that latch to shut the laptop on my T420

Can I replace that? Not sure what to search for to do so

>>58642629
Just buy a new t420 dude

>>58642278
14" or 15"? Solid price either way.

>>58642629
Like anon said, you can't replace them, time for a new laptop.

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>>58642637
>>58642643
I just bought it though

Thought these things were supposed to be durable, the laptop dropped 1 foot and it broke

>>58642599
Thanks for the help. Might just stick with Xubuntu for now, but KDE sounds interesting is all. Xubuntu is probably best for my X220 anyways.

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>>58642652
just get another t420 screen. you can get one on ebay for no more than 50 USD

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>>58642652
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Series-Laptop-14-LCD-LED-Screen-Complete-Assembly-/112070575920?hash=item1a17ed4730:g:KxgAAOSwIgNXlkgx

>20 sold in 24hrs haha you'd better hurry up anon.

>>58642152
>>58641976
Thank you for your clear logical explanation. I am grateful for a sane useful response, rather than the usual sperg chimpout.

>>58642681
>>58642691
I'll just buy a different Thinkpad, fuck it im rich

>>58642725
Buy me one too.

>>58642152
>Ebay.
there's nothing

>>58642652
Don't drop these things even like 4 inches dude wtf

>>58642802
Literally millions of items listed on eBay.
>there's nothing

>>58642802
Sorry, I missed the "SSD" part of your post.

Going off some quick searching, there's a couple on amazon but they're overpriced as fuck and probably much slower than anything current.

Since both the SSDs and laptops that use them are well out of production now, second hand ones should eventually enter the market at low prices, but really that should have already happened and they'll be unreliable trash.

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The CPU fan in my X230t has become extremely loud and kind of grindy.

Is this an easy fix? Temps seem fine, sounds like a fucked up bearing or something.

>>58643128

Also, it's an intermittent thing. It'll be fine, and then it'll spin up to speed, make a whiny racket, and then stop.

>>58643128
Just buy a new x230t dude

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>>58643168

I just got this one a month ago.

What's a fair price to bid on a t420 i5 with 8GB ram and 128GB SSD? Was thinking of straight $200 but have no idea.

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Just received a refurbished x230t. What should i be looking for/ be careful of when starting up and examining the product?

>>58643128
You could take it apart and try to clean up and oil the fan. Or you could just just buy a new heatsink assembly for $10 or less.

>>58643236

CPU fan noise.

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>>58643236
Check for an antenna sticking out of the corner of it, if it has that it's been rigged.

>>58642652
>>58643181
I'm starting to see a pattern here.

>>58643236
Make sure it's not an x230t. They have fan issues.

>>58643236
check for cumstains

>>58643236
pls post pics

>>58632263
Just like me senpai
>Just installed Linux mint 18.1
>16gb Ram
>240 gb ssd
Kinda feel like I wasted money on 16gb ram. But otherwise, extremely comfy.

i have some of those same applications. are any of those actually useful?

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Can W530 keyboard be swapped with W520's???

Guys,

I just bought a thinkpad with an i5, but there's another thread that says i5 is "just a temporary cheap out" and any serious use requires an i7. Is there any truth to this? I feel so fucking stupid I don't even want to put an ssd into this failed piece of garbage.

>>58643594
i5 is fine

Just got a X230 ($275 for a i5, 8gb, 320gb HDD), how can I crank up the window scrolling speed for the touchpad? I was messing around with the stuff in the mouse control window but it doesn't seem to have changed much. Responsibility seems bad compared to other laptops I've used.

On the other hand I really like the eraser nub, feels very intuitive and quick coming from decades of using mice.

>>58643614
In that same logic, i3s are fine. i7s are objectively the better processor. If you buy an i5 you'll never have an i7.

>buy thinkpad off ebay
>seller is sending it by the slowest postal service known to man
>not going to be here till next week
This is killing me desu.

>>58643594
Which one? For most use cases an i7 is unnecessary and will only give you shitty battery life with no benefit. If you NEED an i7 you would know. You also wouldn't be buying a used tp.

>>58643594
Dualcore i7s are meme-tier, not worth it at all over an i5. Quadcores are legit, but I'd only get one if you find that i5 to be severely limiting, which you shouldn't for any ordinary tasks you'd expect out of a laptop.

What's the best T420 battery that doesn't stick out of the back? The extended one I currently have won't fit in my Lowepro bag when its attached to the laptop.

>>58643719
X230T

Not actually enjoying the tabletness that much. Might just get an x230

>>58643719
>shitty battery life
relative. what was the previous cpu? was turbo mode enabled? what speed is the new i7?

>>58643735
I have an i5 x230 and love it. Just make sure you get an IPS screen. I cheaped out on the TN and regret it daily...

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-14-Core-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-4GB-DDR3-320GB-HDD-WIN7COA-No-OS-/262822097290?hash=item3d316af18a:g:4SsAAOSwLEtYh-u9#viTabs_0

do I pull the trigger.
>1600x900
>i5-2520M
>NVS 4200M
>charger+battery
>no dock

>>58643761
do it

>>58643737
I get 13 hours on an i5 3320m x230. My buddy also has an x230, but with an i7 3520m. He struggles to get past 6 hours on a good day.

We have similar setups, and the batteries are around the same age. The only difference I can think of is the CPU.

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>>58643128

>>58643747

If the x230 screen is as easy to replace as the x220 screen, then it is barely a 15 minute job and there are youtube videos so even a baby could do it.

Probably cheaper than factory. Possibly better quality than factory since you get to choose the best IPS panel that might have less ghosting.

>>58643747
IPS on the x230t has terrible glare. Had one 2013-2014 and couldn't enjoy the display. Didn't get too bright either.

>>58636006
Well.

>>58643771
>The only difference I can think of is the CPU.

He uses his for shit other than fulfilling chuck fantasies on Craigslist.

>>58643782
It's not a skill or time issue, I've disassembled the whole thing already to clean it out. I just don't want to sink more money into it since it's my don't-give-a-shit fuck around computer.
Upgrading to an IPS isn't worth the extra cost at this point.

>>58643761
The type number on the listing is different to the one in the photos (4177-Q5U), which indicates that it would only be 1366x768 without a GPU which matches the rest of the description. Might want to contact them to verify which it is.

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Rate my purchase.

Gonna get a pretty sick russian doll effect going on with these badboys, should protect my shit pretty well.

>>58637911
WHO DIS?

>>58643840
It's a used thinkpad. Throw it in your bag and stop worrying about it.

>>58637314
Holy fuck, learn to read you vapid twat. Go guzzle more semen at the local apple store.

>>58643849
>Throw it in your bag and stop worrying about it.
Precisely what I'll be able to do when it's wrapped in three layers of neoprene.

If I just threw that shit in my bag unprotected I'd be too scared to carry it around every day.

>>58643840
Purchased a black and red one a long time ago... had to air it out for a month since it smelled so heavily of paint thinner - and it still had some funky odor even after that.

>>58643864
You know you can wash neoprene right?

>>58643840
Could have been funny but honestly just sad. They keep making those neoprene cases, just for the clearance corner at Best Buy.

>>58643771
>3520m
still a dual core
>13 hours on an i5 3320m
shitposting on battery mode with 50% brightness?

>>58643872
I spent two hours trying to find a decent protective pouch for a 15.6" laptop and there literally are none, they don't exist.

All of the ones that are like 'good padding xdd' just pad the top and the bottom, thats useless, if you ever drop your shit it's going to hit the sides.

I got a 15.6 inch one, a 16 inch one and a 17 inch one, I'm gonna put them all inside eachother and I'll probably have like half an inch of material protecting it from all sides.

I'll be the one laughing when I have triple proctection and can throw my shit around without worrying :^)

>>58643889
Did they even make quad core x230s?

Is the x200 palmrest interchangeable with the x220 one? I have the track pad disabled in the bios and also my palmrest is cracked so I want to replace it.

>>58643901
I'll be the one laughing when you didn't take into account volume of materials. Whatever you take out of 3 telescoping neoprene bags is going to be autistic as fuck.

You bought a Thinkpad. Have you used one? It will be fine.

>>58643916
Just buy a new x200 or better yet x220.

>>58643936
>Whatever you take out of 3 telescoping neoprene bags is going to be autistic as fuck.
No you pleb I'm going to sew them together so they become one big thick pouch. It'll operate just the same only thicker.

>Have you used one?
Nope.

>It will be fine
Not worth the risk.

>>58642152
>>58642162
Resident dumbass here - so what's my best option in this position? The GeForce you listed is about $60, which brings this total up to far more than I'd ideally do. What would be the cost for bringing this machine up to desired gaming specifications? I'm not looking for anything too intense, but I'd like the 40some games I have to be playable. Would consider making some slight upgrades; however if I'm going to spend almost what I spent on this one I'd rather just buy a different Thinkpad.

Not sure what I'd do with this sad purchase, I'd be open to suggestions.

>>58643952
Godspeed you miserable anxious shitskin.

>>58643952
You dumbass. When you make your giant condom, post it here so we can laugh.

>>58643946
Why would I do that when the laptop is in perfect working condition and the palmrest is like 10canuck bucks.
Its an x220 I just don't want the trackpad.

>>58643959
You are better off trying again with the right platform. Let this be a lesson my friend.

>>58643967
>10canuck bucks
You could buy an SKS for that.

>>58643963
I will, you'll see, you'll all see.

>>58643959
That GPU will play it on the lowest of lowest. Just build a gaming pc. Read the OP pastebins for the pc building general.

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Tomorrow I'm taking my buddy to buy a t420 for $100 that I found on craigslist. It has 12 GB ram and doesnt come with a battery. Seems like a decent price as long as its in good shape.

>>58644015
Welcome to motherboard and or screen problems, pal!

>>58643959
An eGPU setup would require an adapter like
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-E-EXP-GDC-Beast-Laptop-External-Independent-Video-Network-Card-Expresscard-/351908378180?hash=item51ef5fb644:g:HCwAAOSwiONYLmmY&autorefresh=true

Then you require a power supply. You can appropriate a normal PSU I assume, or pay more to get with the adapter that would be built specifically for powering PCIE.

Then of course you require a graphics card.

Just wait till your T410 arrives and see how well it handles things and if you personally find the performance acceptable. It's an alright machine for things other than gaming, and there's decent games out there that it should handle fine anyway. If you still want a decent, cheap gaming computer anyway, then you should probably give up on portability.

>>58644031
Why do you say that? Something wrong with the t420 model specifically? I've bought multiple thinkpads I found on craigslist and they all work fine.

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Thoughts on the W700 huge guy mode?

>>58643552
please answer

>>58643552

I know for sure an x230 can, don't see why a w530 could not.

>>58643820
nice catch man thanks

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>>58644139
Hey friend. I just googled this because I was curious myself. Pic related is what I found. It looks like the keyboard can not be easily switched out.

>>58643642
you're a fucking idiot

>>58644221
Ah I see, thank you!

>>58643846
apac computers in moorabbin victoria, they also have a shitload of other parts for thinkpads.

>>58642652
hah
A person had their W520 slide from a car hood and barely had a nick.

>>58642652
Dropped my x201 few days ago from 2-3 feet on carpet during a nice fap session.It scared the shit outta me but not a single problem. It runs good as new.

>>58644130
I want one, but could only justify paying the price if it were for one of the dual screen mother fuckers.

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>>58644957
Don't know why the dual screen never caught on, it'd be a pretty nifty thing to have instead of setting up an external one.

Considering a thinkpad with a decent enough nvidia card to play CS:GO... Any suggestions on a W or T model that can run if smoothly?

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>>58645112
>W520
>2GB dedicated
can't go wrong

>>58644049
I'm pretty happy with my main Linux box and really have no use for the machine other than gaming. Honestly, I'm about to just cut my losses and hold out for a T420 and sell the 410. I've asked the seller if I can return it but I'm not holding my breath for them to have sympathy for my stupidity.

Thanks for the thoughtful responses and knowledge.

Captcha: >Calle Kuntzestr

>>58643810
it is the standard x230 screens contrast ratio is fucking pathetic. Don't know how i used it for so long.

>>58636507
I got my 2570p for $100 on ebay, really nice laptop. I was looking at the 5th gen ones but they seem to all have soldered low voltage cpus.

Don't know if I should get a T420 or a X220.

What are the benefits/drawbacks of both?

>>58645413
Very difficult to replace cpu on the x series because it's soldered.

>>58645484
Ok, then I will go for a T420.

Is there something I should look out for? Minimum RAM or minimum CPU?

Otherwise I just buy the cheapest I can find, put an SSD in it and maybe upgrade the RAM to 16GB.