Linux needs telemetry. I've using Windows 10 in this laptop

>>58620693
Install Gentoo

The point of linux is to improve the os features yourself, not be spoonfed what most pajeets want

>>58620710
Thanks, but I'm not asexual.

>>58620735
So retarded answer, they could improve drivers and memory usage.

>the improvements to Windows 10 and Edge has been abysmal
>abysmal

immeasurably low or wretched : extremely poor or bad

>tfw an actual obvious street shitter posts on /g/

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>>58620693
can you explain how telemetry improves Windows 10?

>>58620887
I'm talking about my own experience here, in the beggining Windows 10 in my laptop at times awas crawling and some drivers had problems, edge also has problems consuming 100% cpu in certains websites, now it is a pleasing experience, all those problems are gone with the updates, I believe that the information send with telemetry helped to that.

>>58620693
>tune it for me
lol of course they do

>abysmal
>good
fucking english

>>58620825
I feel it as fast as XFCE.

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>>58620693
Ironically, Windows stability have been going downhill ever since Microsoft fired their testers and instead opt for unsolicited telemetry.

>>58620977
I'm sure it's from telemetry and not pajeets working a year on fixing the bugs they initially introduced

>>58620994
The question si, would help Linux to have some healty telemetry that help upstream developers? I say yes.

>>58620164
>>58620127
Well, you stupid faggots, anything to say for yourselves?
>>58620693
You can send information back to the dev if you want. You haven't ever used linux, so you wouldn't know that

>>58620991
On what kind of hardware? If you have moderately powerful hardware, it's not that surprising nor impressive that win10 and xfce both run smoothly.

>>58620693
So, let's suppose your opinion is not completely retarded for a minute here.

Why not, and I know I'm just being a crazy lunatic here, but why not develop a smart algorithm that runs locally on your device and does all that "tuning" instead of a person/server remotely? The OS would fine-tune itself to your needs, without needing to communicate any information to anyone. Now wouldn't that be great anon? Wouldn't it be just great?

Alright, the minute's up, your opinion is retarded.

>>58620693
> the improvements to Windows 10 and Edge has been abysmal

Okay, I'm with you so far. Makes sense.

> I feel my laptop more responsive, never chash on me and is more memory efficient

Hmmm. So from all these good thing, you conclude that the OS improvements have been "abysmal"?

My first thought here is that you're having some kind of problem pertaining to your vocabulary, logical analysis, reasoning skills, or cognition.

>>58621153
Its a pajeet, Einstein

>>58621066
>let's suppose your opinion is not completely retarded for

>He post a even more retarded opinion.

Stay pleb.

>>58620735
>improve the os features yourself

Most people can't program, let alone dedicate days to modifying, recompiling and debugging software. Leaving this solely to each individual user to tend to this themselves is not consumer-friendly.

>>58621153
Is not about Windows 10, the question is if telemetry would help Linux DEs to suck less.

>>58620754
You seem to miss the point

the whole job of the developers is to do the bare minimum while the community does the rest

>>58620693
>5 rupees have been deposited to your account

>>58621194
How is that more retarded you asswipe? It's a local solution that solves the problem of telemetry for retards that can't into tweaking. It should be an option, not a forced feature dumbnuts.

>>58621212
Users use their computer in a way developers doesn't predict or imagine, this would help them to know how the user interact with the software they programmed.

>>58621214
>, but why not develop a smart algorithm that runs locally on your device and does all that "tuning" instead of a person/server remotely

Becuase:

a) Those algoritms are not simple to code and won't predict a shit.
b) Becase those algorithms are worless if they find a bug becuase the algorithm won't fix it, the developer will.
c) You watch to much sci-fy.

>>58621284
Aiming for the possible instead of the extraordinary is the road to mediocrity. Stay pleb dear anon.

>>58621312
No wonder it took Linux DEs 20 years to get 2% of market share, with the mentality of some freetards like you.

>>58621332
>overgeneralizing to support personal opinion while ignoring facts

Yes, please, tell me more about how I'm part of the cancer anon.

>>58620887
Here's an anecdote:
I updated to windows 10 the moment it went public. I was getting occasional bsods caused somewhere in the graphics driver. A friend that had a similar configuration was experiencing the same issue.

Then roughly a week later it stopped happening.

I had telemetry disabled but thanks to people who didn't, my issue was fixed relatively quickly.

>>58620693
>the improvements to Windows 10 and Edge has been abysmal

This means the improvements have been terrible. This does not make sense with the rest.

You must install Gentoo.

>>58620693
>>58620754
>>58620977
>>58620991
>>58621034
>>58621194

>Linux needs telemetry.
No, it doesn't. Telemetry is shit, and fuck everything that limits privacy.

>MUH EXPERIENCE
They just fixed some bugs they themselves created. Again, fuck telemetry. You know nothing about Linux and what it needs.

>>58621350
>Yes, please, tell me more about how I'm part of the cancer anon.

I'm done with you freetard, good ridance.

>>58621410
I'm not going away anon. I will continue haunting /g/ for the rest of time. I will keep spreading the cancer, just to spite you.

>>58621372
Is my own experiece, the difference is that I do actually use Windows 10, not like the mayority of loud freetards here who don't.

>>58621431
>mayority

>>58620693
>the improvements to Windows 10 and Edge has been abysmal
Pajeet?

>>58621410
By, back to ///reddit with you

>>58621374
>You know nothing about Linux and what it needs

Oh, I know it needs to suck less, that's all I need.

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>>58620693
Linux has telemetry. e.g. Debian's popcon.

It's just disabled by default and strictly opt-in, so nobody is forced to participate or tricked into doing so, if they don't want to.

>>58621255
actually a good developer lays out all possiblr uses for their software, inputs, and do crash tests

>>58621466
Developers are as human as you and I, telemetry is just a tool to make their work more afficient and acurate, and I'm talking about good telemetry, not the abobination Windows 10 has.

>>58620693
They already have telemetry

>>58621512
which ones?

>>58621207

>Linux
>Consumer friendly

Go shit in someone else's street, Rajeesh

>>58621497
K

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>>58620693

>>58620737
ROASTED

FUCK will gentoofags EVER recover?!

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>>58620693
>Linux (((needs))) (((telemetry)))(((.)))

>(((I've using ((((((Windows))) 10))) in this laptop I got about a year ago, and in that year, the (((improvements))) to ((((((Windows))) 10))) and (((Edge))) has been (((abysmal))) , I feel my laptop more responsive, never chash on me and is more (((memory))) (((efficient))), and I can't avoid to think that all these (((improvements))) are thanks to (((telemetry))), becase (((((((((MS))))))))) knows how I (((use))) my laptop and (((can tune it for me))). And I was thinking that the Linux Desktops would suck less if they had (((telemetry))) to get the ((((((information)))))) they need to (((improve))), I'm talking about (((good))) (((telemetry))) that users can (((control))) and is (((completly anonymous))) and is (((not for porposes of advertising))) why aren't distros doing this(((?))))))

>>58621645
lol shut up pol

This may actually be a highly intelligent bait thread

>>58620693
Linux gets telemetry when you learn to poo in the loo.

>>58621611
>>58620710
>>58620737
Well instructions were incomplete, you need to smoke some NO2 gas first.
>>58621034
Well Remix OS already takes telemetry. People called it botnet shortly after.

>>58621533
All mainstream ones.

>>58621891
Link?

>>58621539
There is nothing wrong with making Linux consumer-friendly.

>>58621944
>link
You don't need a link to know that, just use Linux. Telemetry is 100% optional on Linux. When a program crashes you're opted to send info about your PC, installed software and some other things to help fix wherever bug caused your software to crash.

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>>58620693
>Linux needs telemetry
If my distro starts doing telemetry, i'll switch to another one.

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>>58621692
>using lisp language is pol

>>58620693
i would use telemetry
t linux /freebsd user

I thought that's what systemd is supposed to do.

>>58620977
Definitely not because bugs are reported and fixed and because there's a whole team dedicatrd solely to that, must be a benefit of being spied on!

>>58623308
Don't you trust Linux developers?

>>58620977
>I'm talking about my own experience here

lol

>>58624137
Nice arguments freetard, I hate Windows now.
/s

>dumb child reacts to placebo
>thinks that the spyware he has on his computer makes it faster

Look at that, the same trick people fell for in the 90s still work

>>58624185
im not making any arguments

i'm just laughing at OP because he's so fucking retarded

>>58624419
>retarded

>He laughts for nothing.

I think the retarded is not him but you, anon.

>>58624467
>when pajeets try to insult people

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>>58620693
Linux already has a better way of improvement than telemetry, it's called bug reports.
It just doesn't work on Windows due to the dumbness of it's users and the inability of users to get good debugging info because it is proprietary software.
And no we don't need dumb users on Linux.

>>58624867
>Linux already has a better way of improvement than telemetry, it's called bug reports.

I've read retarded replies, but this one takes the cake.

>>58621975
Linux distros are targeted to their users. Gentoo is not ment for mum and dad. They can use ubuntu which just werks.

>>58625012
So are you telling me that it's easier to fix a a bug by looking at a automatically collected log than having a user description of how to replicate it and the respective debug log?

Just be careful with the kind of cakes you have been eating.

>>58621497
You're an idiot and you don't know what you're talking about.

Telemetry is used when incompotent developers don't know how to properly manage large code bases, don't know how to write tests, and are too lazy to get off their asses and do their jobs, so they spy on their users so if shit hits the fan, when it inevitably does due to their incompetence, they get a nice report so they can fix their shitty code and go back to jerking off in their $70k/yr job.

>>58625243
And this, gentlemen, is why Linux will never gain an acceptable market share to encourage developers to port their software.

>>58625325
Just develop for Ubuntu.

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>>58620693
>MS knows how I use my laptop and can tune it for me

>>58625325
I'm sorry to inform you but we don't need proprietary software. And if it is free software we can easily port it ourselves.

>>58620977
Yeah, that CPU usage was building .NET shit for your machine so that it would be faster than some generic .NET binaries/libs

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Why windows users are so computer illiterate /g/?

They're literally soccer mom tier kek

>>58625299
>Telemetry is used when incompotent developers don't know how to properly manage large code bases

So Google's Android developers are a bunch of incompetent according to you.

Linux developers are even more incompetent, that why they need telemetry.

>>58625387
>we don't need proprietary software
that is what you think

>>58625436
Yes, Google's Android developers are a bunch of incompetent cunts. Their OS relies on *Java*, has absolutely abysmal security, and is a RAM/Battery drain on the best of days.

(before you automatically jump to the conclusion, no, I don't think iOS is any better. All mobile OS's are completely shit.)

>>58620693
>abysmal
So you hate telemetry but you are endorsing it? Wtf are you trying to convey?

>>58625436
It's called Lagdroid for a reason. And it usually gets less laggy as you remove the google stuff from it.
So probably the incompetent here is you.

>>58621369
>i had telemetry disabled

No you didnt, those "switches" do jack shit matey

>>58625544
There are benefits in telemetry when is do it the right way.

>>58620693
fuck off microsoft shill, we know what you are planning

>>58620977
>He said as poo rained down outside his apartment. His upstairs neighbor had a spicy curry with a little too much fecal matter in it, so that meant he had no choice but to shit on the street below, even though it wasn't a designated street. There was no indoor toilets for several miles in any direction.

>>58620693
Telemetry in Linux wouldn't be a bad idea, of course, it needs to be implemented in a very transparent way.

>>58620737
I have officially now seen that used as an insult.

I'm asexual and even I'm not installing Gentoo

>>58620693
You're too young to remember the other Windows releases. It's called active development and has been the way Windows has worked for years.

>>58627693
Son, I've using Linux since 1997 and Windows since 1994, I know both,

>>58625720
>No you didnt, those "switches" do jack shit matey
As much as you might hate the fact, all of telemetry can be disabled on enterprise edition through documented means.
Microsoft isn't retarded, they need to provide a way for people to use their software in environments where security is considered very important.

>>58620693
Somebody please tell me, if Linux had telemetri, what reason would there be to use it instead of Windows?
All the privacy advantages are now out of the window, and the security is now worse, since malware would be installed by default (like on W10).
All the pain in the ass of using Linux and all the missed advantage of using it instead of Windows wouldn't be worth it anymore.

Seriously, what reason would you have to use Linux if it had W10-like telemetry?
Except obviously some rare linux-only application that has no Windows alternative.

>>58620693
>And I was thinking that the Linux Desktops would suck less if they had telemetry to get the information they need to improve
Linux desktop sucks a lot less than Windows. Also, you could just try filing bug reports and feature requests like a sensible person. But no, I suppose you'd rather literally shill on 4chan.

>>58620693
telemetery is for lazy developers too stupid to test their own software, and then offload the job to the consumers computers and subsequently causing inefficiencies and vulnerabilities in software.

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>>58620737
>>58621611

>>58629650
More lightweight desktop
More customizable desktop
More stable
Proper package manager with recursive dependency handling.
Does not require rebooting for updates unless kernel is upgraded
Installed software libraries are automatically in system path, making development work less tedious.

I could go on...

>>58630059
Those are all marginal annoyances and things that are only slightly better than Windows.
Compared to the significant advantages of using Windows (that become fundamental if you do any work based on software that only has shitty Linux alternatives), I'd say they wouldn't be worth it IMO.

>>58630109
>slightly better
Well I disagree. I consider those things to make it far better. What more could you ask for than being faster, more stable, and easier to use and update?

You have yet to name any advantages of using Windows.

>>58625012
And probably ate it too xD

>>58620693
sounds dumb

>>58620693
makes me want to punch you in the teeth

>>58630166
>You have yet to name any advantages of using Windows.
>Less hassles, which means:
>Less time spent working on the OS, rather than working with it.
>Full compatibility with almost everything. If there's a program that's incompatible with a certain system (and doesn't have alternatives for your OS), then that OS is most likely to be Linux and now Windows, for which most programs have a version or a valid alternative. Especially in the professional world where you're often tied to a certain program which has no Linux solution.

>What more could you ask for than being faster, more stable, and easier to use and update
You're talking about Windows, right?
Apart from maybe being faster, you can't possibly believe Linux is more stable and easier to use and update than Windows.

The pros you mentioned here >>58630059 don't really compensate the cons of using it, but I guess it's subjective. If all you do with a system is ricing and browsing the Internet, then Linux is the superior choice.

>>58630039
That is why Linux needs telemetry, because Ñinux developers are to lazy and stupid that let the end user to test their software at realice time instead of doing their homework, that is why we have software like Akanodi, Baloo and Plasma sucking monkey balls.

>>58630166
>You have yet to name any advantages of using Windows.

I can use profesional software like adobe suite and aAutocad.

>Wine

GTFO.

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>Deletes a file on Windows

>>58631788
>more stable easier to use and update than Windows
Not that guy, but it depends. There are plenty of "just werks" distributions that are, in fact, easier to use and update than Windows. There are also plenty of distributions that aren't.

>>58633354
We have a bugtracker system, why not improve that, so it is easier for people to fill out bugs.
This way, people can share what is a problem instead of sharing what people are doing with the system.

>>58633608
>We have a bugtracker system
That is obvious not working because Linus still has software that sucks to much that reach the end user like Baloo and Plasma.

>>58633637
*Linux.

>>58621207
Most or great part of the Linux user base are programmers

>>58634345
That is not an excuse to not create quality and easy to use software.

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If you don't like how software functions on Linux you can change it.

On Windows you can't.

Also learn english OP.

>>58634538

>If you don't like how software functions on Linux you can change it.

That means a lot of wasted time
, nice to have the option, but no thanks.

>On Windows you can't.
I never needed to change code in Windows anyway.

>>58634567
>I never needed to change code in Windows anyway.
But you did, because as you said, the computer was unresponsive, crashed a lot and was abysmal.
What happened is that someone looked through your dick pictures and changed it for you.

>>58626852
I'm jealous, if I truly understand what "asexual" means

>>58634583
>But you did, because as you said, the computer was unresponsive, crashed a lot and was abysmal.

And thanks to telemetry that problem was solved w/o the need to learn to code drivers., see?

>>58620693
Nice try NSA!

>>58634861
What part of "Good telemetry that users can control" did your little braind didn't understand?

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>>58620977
>I believe that the information send with telemetry helped to that.

You may believe in church, not on /g/. Telemetry on wx is a total ripoff. Some faggot thought it will be useful, but they don't have much idea what to do with that (99% useless) data.
Kernel oops and bugtracker is a thing. Nobody, especially not an automated data blackhole will solve it for you. Don't forget they recently fucked up the network connection for many users with an update. This shows they still stuck in 2003 and rely on human feedback, not to mention the overhead and privacy issues with the so called telemetry.

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>>58634736
>And thanks to telemetry

You opened files and keyboard input helped it for sure. Pic fucking related

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>>58620693
https://askubuntu.com/questions/135540/what-is-the-whoopsie-process-and-how-can-i-remove-it

Your turn.

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>>58635065
>that users can control

>>58621003
This
I believe they made it broken on purpose so idiots like OP go oh look its working "JUST AS IT SHOULD AND NO BETTER THAN ADVERTISED" now it must be the greatest thing ever!
pff sheeples

>>58635250
Do you even use Windows 10 freetard? I do and I know.

>>58635450
>assumptions of a cuck
Stockholm syndrome is fun.

>>58635444
>I believe they made it broken on purpose
That's why I said good telemetry that users can control, moron. not the kind of telemtry Windows 10 uses.

>>58635373
My turne of what? freetard.

>>58635474
So you are talking shit of something you don't even know?

GTFO.

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>>58635525
Heavy denial from a cuck.

>>58635514
I expected too much from a winfag bastard.

do a favor for /g/ and kys

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>>58635525
>talking shit of something

>>58635568
Microsoft is hiring!

>>58635555
>To stupid to make an argument.

Yawn.

>>58635567
>I expected too much from a winfag bastard

I'm sorry I cannot decipher your fagotry.

>>58635630
Its hard being a lower class pajeet with an ostracized mother, no toilet, and no father. If this literal shitpost gets you the one rupee you need to use the loo so you go away then I forgive you.

>>58635659
>Implying I'm asian.

Freetard can't compute possibilites.

>>58635669
Walks like duck, quacks like a duck.

>>58635745
>can't make an arguement
Freetard is collapsing.

>>58635784
When pajeets can't understand english they get confused and claim victory.

>>58635838
>Still no argument.

You are boring me, freetard.

>>58635894
I tried but there is a language barrier.
:(

>>58620693
Kek. That's rich, Pajeet.

>>58635555
would fug desu

>>58635912
>Still no argument.

Yawn.

>>58628765
nice dream bubble you live in
sounds very comfy

>>58636240

>>58631924
>>58632179

>literally an Indian shilling
the memes are true

>>58636332
Freetard detected.

>>58620693
>Linux needs telemetry.

I've seen memes you people wouldn't believe...

>>58620977
yeah... no... this is wrong. that's not how it works. they do have a separate service for that but it's not telem

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