/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>58595266
Maybe since this is at the top now I'll get some diverse feedback
Bought a pair of t1 teslas (technically didn't buy them)
For some reason though my old dt990 pro 250 ohm sound better than these. Do I just need to burn them in? I've been using them for tow days

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>>58595266

>>58595325
>Do I just need to burn them in?
see the picture in >>58595266

>>58595349
are you a girl?

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So.... Sennheiser HD 599 are out. Price is higher than 598. How good are they?

What's the latest /hpg/ memes?

I haven't been around often.

Still sporting the ultimate meme HD600 + O2 + ODAC combo.

>>58595806

Everybody owns the DT770 and there is a lot of v-shaped lovers nowadays

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>>58595349
Sup breh

>>58595266
Still /hpg/ related a bit. How do tape-to-tape players supposed to have best sound if their speakers aren't that great?

>>58595615
they are shit

>>58595266
Recommend headphones for less than $80 that are neutral in sound and are good for apple products like iphones and ipads as well as my pc audio port.

>>58596291
you base this one what? your irrational hate for Sennheiser?

>>58595552
Why?

>>58595615
I highly doubt they're anything more than a very slight sound improvement. 598's will be a lot better value.

/r/ing webm of the guy listening to those $16,000 headphones and crying

>>58596891
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPXiOirncTA
he looks like wax figure melting

>>58596961
FAKE

Budget: 100$
Source: Bluetooth
Type: full sized
Closed
I prefer comfortable headphones over sound quality. I also need them to have a mic. Any advice would be great.

So should I get the Fidelio X2 or the HD 600? which are considered all around the best?

>>58597044
LMAO... you might as well ask for a bucket of gold for $100.

Double the price for Bluetooth.

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My 681 Evo's died on me, and while the senn558's are godly for $100, I miss having bass, and i want something to use in public.

I found 2 chinese pairs that are closed back with decent sound stage, have strong bass without fucking over the mids/highs, sound that might exceed the price point, and are hella comfy for the price.

Can i get some insight on which would probably sound better and which would have more sound stage?

https://www.amazon.com/LyxPro-HAS-30-Headphones-Professional-Entertainment/dp/B018Y5CVO0
https://www.amazon.com/Yenona-Adapter-free-Headphones-Monitoring-Isolation/dp/B01B2L6Z54/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

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>>58597352

X2 for music, movies, games, etc

The HD 600 is a boring reference headphone with no life to them.

>>58597352
They are so different it's not even apples and oranges. Go audition them in a shop faggot, that's literally the only way to know for sure if you will like a headphone or not. That said, HD600 being more neutral are better all rounders since X2 bass gets in a way all the time and some songs sound very muddy especially vocals. HD600 are sensitive, so as long as you are not using your mobile phone they will be loud enough but you do need an amp to make them sound at their full potential, where X2 as far as I know don't really change that much with an amp.

>>58597969

>HD600 being more neutral are better all rounders

The 600 isn't good for any genre of music, except for maybe Jazz and Classical. It's so dull, the 650 and X2 are better choices.

>>58596405
I assume he means buying an irrational amount of pricey items of which you can only use one at a time. See: girls & shoes. Sure, they might be for different occasions, but the sheer amount of them is high levels of stupid.

Budget: $150
Over ear if possible
Open
I prefer music like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXafRKe9klA

>>58598200
X2 are somewhat V shaped and have a boomy bass, less than X1 tho, so when it comes to vocals or bass not getting in the way of a song X2 loses to HD600 while HD600 have nothing that will come in a way of you listening any song. It might not have the same amount of bass as X2 for some rap, but you can listen to rock or electronic music no problems with HD600 while still enjoying vocals, jazz, classical and all kind of music. X2 ARE more fun, I am not gonna argue with that, they have an abnormous soundstage, not as precise and HD600 tho.

>>58598518
are the Philips SHP9500 similar to the x2?

>>58598582
Maybe build and aesthetics, but otherwise theyre pretty much opposites.

SHP9500's are neutral-bright ish, with quite grainy highs

X2's are quite dark

>>58598607
which one has a good amount of bass,and how do they compare to the hd 558?

>>58598582
No idea, when I was choosing my headphone I basically tried X2, Beyers dt880 and HD600. Seriously, if you make a list of headphones that you will potentially get and go and audition them. Many people recommended me X2 but I turned them away instantly. I am not saying X2 are bad, but they wasn't my cup of tea but my sound signature isn't what people usually would go for with juice in the bass and highs aka V shaped.

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Shitty ass ATH-MSR7BK's broke due to shitty wiring in the jack port. Tried to repair it and the fucking jack port fell to pieces.

Think I'm just going to get open-back headphones from now on. These things constantly fucking break on me.

Any recommendation for a pair of ear buds with a mic and volume control?
I just broke my MEElectronics m9p-bk today and need something under $35 with decent isolation. I don't care about bass as they're mostly used for listening to podcasts and audiobooks while I work.
Kinda curious about bluetooth stuff as I fucked up my current pair my catching the cable on something, but I think I'd prefer staying with the 3.5mm connector unless I hear some seriously good stuff about it.

thanks for any assistance you have.

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>Look at DT770s
>32 ohm is like half the price than 250

I assume there's a reason for this?

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Anyone know of a good online store in Australia to buy HD 558's? I can't seem to find any store that list them except things like wireless1 but they don't seem very trustworthy.

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>Budget
Small, 10-20$.
>Location
Bulgaria, so that's a lot to consider since shipping prices are a ton if you want to buy cheap headphones.
>Source
Laptop.
>Type of headphone
Full-sized.
>Open or closed
I prefer closed, but I can do open too if there's a better option of open. So either.
>Comfort level
I would accept less comfortable ones.


Most importantly what I want is durability since I always fuck my cable, my last ones lasted for more than half an year which was great considering; I thought of buying headphones with replaceable cables (because that's what fucks mine most of the time and I can't be bothered to fix 10-20$ headphones). I'd also prefer if there was a mic, but if there aren't any good ones with one then that's also fine too and I can accept some without one.

>>58599383
Minidisc and Addicted to Audio are the go to places for headphone purchases in Australia.

>>58598582
No. SHP9500 are more akin to an even more open Sennheiser HD598. X2's are practically what Beats should have been in the first place.
>>58598630
By that comparison, X2's stomp the 9500 and the hd558 (they already stomp the 598).

>>58599409
just buy the amazon headphones

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>>58595986
What? Reel to reel tapes is the highest quality analog audio storage format. Whatever equipment comes after the tape is not related to it. You can use any kind of loudspeakers or amplifiers you want.

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>>58595349
money spent on headphones +++
audio knowledge gained ---

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SHP9500

>Budget
60€ (prefer amazon)
>Location
France
>Source
PC/PS4
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
close with good isolation
>Comfort level
comfy as heck
>Sound signature
warm
>Past headphones
Superlux HD681
>Extra
Able to set my track clip on it

Im the audio static anon, how can you still help me?

Also I did burnout for like 40 minutes or 2 hours on a low impedance headphone, this is the cause for the whitenoise that I have? my es10 aren't so white noisy as WS1100is. Also es10 ohm output is at least 46-60

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>>58600061
>I did burnout for like 40 minutes or 2 hours on a low impedance headphone
>mfw you stuck your headphones under your car tires and did a burnout on them

>>58600187
So fuck impedance and fuck this shit methodm Fuck companies and fuck audiophilling

and fuck you

>>58600257
fuck you for not understanding

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>>58600324
I understand pretty well

I ruined my headphones like the other ones

I'm irrsponsible little shit, just kill me

>>58600339
No, it really doesn't sound like you understand anything.

White noise is not caused by your headphones but more sensitive headphones can make it more audible. Headphones, just like cables, are passive components and will not create noise on their own.

You really just need to stop paying attention to the impedance as that is definitely something you don't understand and isn't important here.

Burn in is useless, playing content too loud through your headphones over their thermal limits can break them but at this point they will be so insanely loud that you would have likely backed out on volume long ago.

>>58600479
>and will not create noise on their own.
well, if you have bad ones they can creak pretty loudly

>>58600061
you have to buy these and put them ontop of your origen+
http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm

>>58600479
OH I see, I was just misinformed a about it. I'm still experiencing the white noise though

Thank you for not given up on me

Im still working on the perfectest audio experience

I will do my best!

>>58600657
WAT

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>tfw bought dt1770pro in Amazon for $600 yesterday and now they changed the price to 430

>>58600678
cancel and rebuy.
or if it shipped, buy a second. return the first.

ezpz lemon squeezy for $170 in savings.

Hey are bose qc25worth?

>>58600671
>>58600657
>>58600556
>>58600479
>>58600339
You know what? tell me everything about audio equipment smf converters and things that I can connect to my pc

I will go on board next year when I have a lot of budget

>>58600691
They changed the price right after the shipment... now I have to wait for the package and throw it back to ups again
Will it be the same if I use the first one and return the second $400 one that arrives later?

Origen+ vs Fulla 2 vs Dragonfly?

>>58600844
the only thing that would matter is if the cans/boxes have a serial #'s recorded.

but fuck if i know. ask customer service.

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>>58599950
bump

>>58601012
takstar

>>58600556
That's not noise.

>>58600890
Never ever Dragonfly.

Origen if you need the SPDIF input.

Fulla 2 if you don't need that and want the highest quality device.

>>58599383
Minidisc, Jaben, Addicted to Audio, Store DJ

Addicted will probably be the cheapest. Although take a look at shipping from US amazon. It'll often still end up cheaper. eBay also sometimes sells 558/598's pretty cheaply. eBay has good customer support and will refund fake shit as long as you prove it, which shouldn't be hard.

>>58601265
>Never ever Dragonfly.
Can I ask why? Other than the form factor being potentially suspect to breaking.

Any recommended dacs for <$150?

>>58600739
If you need ANC, sure. Otherwise, no.

>>58602079
DAC only? Modi2

>>58601265
Alright then, Fulla vs Fulla 2? Is the $40 extra worth the cost?

Is /hpg/ can help total noob?
I'm reading wiki
But i confusing with 'Ohm' part.

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>>58599950
>>Past headphones
>Superlux HD681
are they good?

>>58602282
What is confusing about it?

>>58595266
>Budget
£60
>Location
UK
>Source
Plugging in to computer
>Type
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed headphones definitely
>Comfort level
Ehh as long as it doesnt hurt my skull/ears im fine
>Past headphones
Shitty fucking gayming hyperx cloud cancerous shit and before that it was some other gayming turtle beaches. Im not falling for the gaymen pro headphones meme again

Budget: 300$ +-
Location: Norway
Source: Iphone
Type of headphone: Full, kinda portable
Open or closed: Closed
Comfort level: High
Past headphones: Koss portapro (I often damage the cable so the life time warranty is really good) & AKG 518 (decent sound for the money but not that comfortable)

>>58602467
>>58602467
>Improved damping factor is also often associated with high impedance headphones but it's effects is minimal if not unnoticeable when using an amp with near zero output impedance. However when amps with very high output impedance is involved high impedance headphones will fair better than their lower impedance counter parts.

what is actual affects on sound?

>>58602541
Superlux 662EVO and you can invest the rest of the money on a cheap mic like the zalman one.

>>58602601
AKG K550, Senn Momentum, Beoplay H6 2nd gen.

>Budget
$50-$60
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Over the ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy for long listening sessions
>Sound signature
Neutral preferred.

>>58602541
>Shitty fucking gayming hyperx cloud cancerous shit
they're about the best thing you can get in that range for closed but maybe you don't want v shaped

>>58602809
Philips SHP9500

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what's wrong with the chink sony mdr 7506?

I run a fair amount and was looking for earbuds that don't isolate my ears from the outside. The only suitable ones I've found for this are Apple Earpods but they are very uncomfortable. Does anyone know of an earbud that allows a large amount of sound into my ear while also being comfortable? If not at the very least some mod to make wearing the earpods comfortable.

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I recently got an Audigy FX soundcard as a gift and I'd like to get pair of headphones to replace my HD668B after fixing its wire three times. They're pretty much perfect for my use but I guess I could use an upgrade to go with this soundcard (if is mine any good at all). I'll use them for games (CS:GO mostly) and to casually listen to music or watch videos.

Budget: <150€
Source: PC with Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
Isolation: Prefer open/semi-open for soundstage in games (CS:GO mostly)
Preferred type: Full-sized and comfortable for long sessions
Preferred tonal balance: Neutral/balanced
Past headphones: HD668B: Comfortable enough, Soundstage good enough for CS:GO/games, Easy to clean, Cheap. These are the best headphones I've ever used
Preferred music: I don't listen to music so much. If I were to tell a genre, I'd probably say Alternative/Rock but it really varies
Location: Europe

Some suggested me the HD558 or the DT880 (which are out of my budget limit) but I'd like to hear some advices from you.

>>58602619
Is it these?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Superlux-HD-662-Closed-Studio-Headphones/dp/B007IV7OBM

Any microphone recommendations too?

And do those superlux headphones block out sound from external sources

>>58603189
No, it's these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Superlux-HD662EVO-Closed-back-Monitoring-Headphones-with-Self-adjusting-Headband-/291913732961?var=&hash=item43f76a1361

Personally recommend antlion modmic but that might be too much considering your budget. Just go for the zalman zm-mic1. They're good enough for in-game/discord/teamspeak/etc.

Yes.

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Is there anything cheaper but still good like a vmoda boompro? 40€ for a mic seems too much

>>58603236
Thanks, anyone else able to vouch for those headphones?

Fuck I forgot to add about >>58602541

Are the audio technica ath-m20x from the /g/ wiki pastebin as good as the hd662 evo someones recommending? I was looking at those originally too

>>58603236
Nevermind, those arent one day delivery

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So can anyone comment on the build quality of Xiaomi shit?
I want to get the hybrid pro hd but if they're chink shit that break in three months I'd rather get something more expensive like the MA750

>>58603326
you're not going to get anything better for closed at that price point.
>>58603274
maybe go ask /csg/
>>58603367
m20x are ass and uncomfortable as fuck. only thing they good at is feeling durable.

>>58602601
Mdr 1A
>>58603367
m20x are very very uncomfortable, you have to buy aftermarket pads

>>58603445
I'm using xiomi ones and it's durable than 10usd convinient store shit.

>>58603454
>>58603453
How about the m30x

>>58603581
don't do m20x and m30x. they're shit and not worth the hassle with the extra pads. also, the entire M series have flaking headbands and i haven't found actual replacements for them yet.

>>58603627
Do you know anything else then preferably around that price range

>>58603721
What are you looking for

>>58603790
Something good, prefferably comfy, £40, and available for next day delivery which theres only an hour left to do reeeee

>>58603804
monoprice 8323, tascam th-02. you don't have a lot of choices for good comfy pairs, especially if you need them by tomorrow. all the good budget ones come from china like the superluxs.

>>58603873
Btw are you sure the ATH M20X is that bad? Im not too picky about headphones and a friend of mine had some headphones by them and said theyre good.

Idk about that tascam one

>>58603873
Also, is this the monoprice 8323?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Monoprice-Premium-Hi-Fi-Style-Headphone/dp/B007SP2CO2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485106521&sr=8-1&keywords=Monoprice+8323

>>58603909
"by them" lmao dude they're a fucking brand they make cheap shit like the m20x to the msr7 just because their good shit is good doesn't mean their cheap shit is good too. and yeah those are the monoprice.

>>58603987
alright alright, leddits saying its better too so i guess i'll go with it

>>58603274
>vmoda boompro
also interested in this

jesus christ the build quality on k702s sucks donkey dick, you can hear the plastic rattling constantly its so fucking triggering

>>58604517
triggered xd

What DAC/AMP combo should I go for the hd600? Should I get the DAC and AMP separate or just go for a 2 in 1?

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has anyone heard about "fresh 'n rebel" heapdhones? I'm interested in caps but can't find any decent reviews in english
look very nice and are very cheap

>>58605180
cheap shit made for people too poor for beats, and put style over substance.

>>58605212
I guess I'll go with ugly koss ur20 then

DT 880 600Ω @ 189,-€
vs
HD 600 @ 243,-€
vs
HD 650 @ 299,99€

Which should I pick? I kinda wanna go with the DT 880 because I like to herd my shekels, but if they absolutely blow against the HD 600 I'll reconsider.

>>58605315
Oh btw. amp is a Magni 2, so no issues there.

>>58598636
Where can I go to try out headphones? I don't really have any audio stores near me apart from a guitar center.

>>58605500
In my city the major electronics retailers have a bunch of headphones on display which you could even plug into your phone. Not many higher-priced cans though, and the environment noise makes it basically impossible to judge open cans.

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Just ordered this
How did I do?

>>58605655
yeah I'm looking to test out both the hd 600's and the filio x2's would major electronics retailers have those to try out?

>>58605794
The X2s more likely than the HD 600s.

>>58604517
(you)

I've been working out with my ATH-M50x and the leather is starting to get smelly because of my sweat. How do I fix this?

>>58605858
Don't work out with your m50x.

>>58605957
but i want to listen to music

>>58605971
Buy iems.

>Budget
$100
>Location
Canada
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
good preferably
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
ATH-M50x

>>58606017
lmao

>>58606017

Etymotic hf5 but they are not that confortable

>>58605315
HD600 if you listen to a lot of genres, especially vocals. Most neutral sounding.
DT880 are a bit better if you like a bit more low end and dont mind the treble spike. Basing this off the 250 Ohm variant though, so get clarification if its the same.
HD600 are the most smooth sounding but honestly I think they're too inoffensive. Highs do sound slightly veiled in comparison but i prefer the more throaty sound to the 600. Some people like them more than 650, I don't. Both are extremely similar, and honestly just getting the cheapest and EQing to your preferred sound is the best option.

DT 880 is the most grainy, but again im basing this off the 250 ohm. HD 600 are second most, with 650's following up as the least. Though its hardly a difference from 600.

>>58605858
Can't you take off the pads and wash the leather?

>>58605858
Get DT250 velours and wash them every once in a while. Keep the pleather pads for normal use.

>>58606327
Thanks a lot. How are vocals on the DT 880? Do they suffer noticeably compared to the HD 600/650? Also, can you elaborate on what "grainy" means?

>>58595266
i like that picture op

>>58606017
Ety MK5

>>58606246
kind of subjective but yeah most people will probably find the etys uncomfortable

>>58606017
shure se215

Reminder, one day left to get the best closed headphones in existence
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00?1=1&utm_placement=0&referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open

>>58602070

Dragonfly is shit. Get apogee groove instead. Not plastic build and sounds really really good. Paint also chips off the fucking shitty dragonfly.

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Budget: approx. 150 usd
Location: Poland
Source: PC, Phone (but not necessarily)
Type of headphone: full-sized
Open or closed: Closed (over-ear)
Comfort level: Should isolate my ear from the surroundings
Sound signature: Suitable for electronic music (i.e. Jean-Michel Jarre)
Past headphones: Nothing worth mentioning

>>58606563

(me) This is only if you really want something portable. The apogee groove will power hd 650 and hd 600 very very well with room to spare.

>>58606579
dt770 80 ohm

>>58606434
It's far from neutral.

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>>58606356
>How are vocals on the DT 880
Female vocals can sound a bit clunky but male vocals are nice

>Do they suffer noticeably compared to the HD 600/650?
Somewhat. Lower male vocals feel more 'beefy' on the 880, whereas female vocals sound the best on 600's, and 650's are probably a more all rounder in some ways.

>Also, can you elaborate on what "grainy" means?
Its kind of self explanatory in some regards. Its a dumb audiophile term but I don't really know any other way to describe it. Typically audible in the highs. Its a sort of sandy sound. I fucking hate describing audio but I'm not sure how else in this regard. I'd be a shit reviewer.


I've added a file of the frequency responses from golden ears. Might give you a bit of an idea. GE isnt exactly the best but its better than nothing.

>>58602070
I guess that too but mainly how terrible it is performance wise. Just all around shoddy engineering.

https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_device&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=68
https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_device&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=69

On top of that it's a fucking Audioquest product which I would steer clear of no matter how well it performs. Disgusting company, snake oil wholesale.

>>58606586
The 250 ohm version is more widely available and cheaper, is it worse?

>>58606616
That dip around 3k-5k for the 600Ω has me concerned, but judging from the "Reviewer's Opinion" section on Goldenears (thanks for pointing me there btw) it seems to be responsible for darkening the overall impression of the treble a little, which I would welcome.

Your explanation of "grainy" helped, thank you, I was unaware that it's a term specifically applied to the highs. I can imagine it better now. Since I don't listen to a lot of female vocals and I appreciate some "texture" in the highs I think I'll at least give the DT 880 a shot and save some money.

>>58606673
> is it worse?
No. Nearly identical to the 80 ohm. The thing is you are more likely to need an amp. Though if you have a decent soundcard this probably isn't the case. If you have an amp/dedicated soundcard then there is no reason not to get the 250.

>>58606721
No problems. If you find the treble peak on the 880's don't be afraid to just EQ it down. They're a good set of headphones.

>>58595266
at least shop some headphones on him

>>58606673
most motherboards won't be able to fully power the 250
even then, the 80 is portable, aka you can use it on the go with your phone or on a laptop if you EVER need to, which honestly people underestimate sometimes

>>58606913
558

>Budget
<€150
>Source
Creative Soung Blaster Audigy FX
>Type
Fullsized
>Open or Closed
Open / Semi-open
>Comfort level
Comfy for long sessions
>Sound signature
As neutral as possible

I'll be using them mostly for vidya (CS:GO) so soundstage is important

>>58606929
As >>58606926 said, 558. Mod them, though. It's worth it.

>>58606926
>>58606951
Deleted my own post for accidentally quoting the other one. I'll look into them. What kind of mod? I want to research more on them

>>58606965
There are pieces of useless foam glued between the drivers and the outer grille. All you need is a screwdriver and some patience and it comes right off, makes the 558 sound almost like the 598 for less money. Look on YouTube, there are tutorial videos there.

>>58607000
What's the difference between 558 and 598? They cost about 20€ more.
I could mod them as you said but at that point it would void warranty wouldn't it?

>>58607018
598 has more soundstage, better highs, but less low end.

>>58607047
Sorry to keep asking but, what do you mean with less low end? Either way I'm gonna look up both models for more information about them

>>58607093
>what do you mean with less low end
there is less bass

>>58607116
Ok thank you. Do you think they'll be a big upgrade coming from my HD668B or they're just a bit better?

>>58607165
668b is v shaped, if you like 668b don't get 558 because you don't like neutral

>>58607165
>Do you think they'll be a big upgrade coming from my HD668B or they're just a bit better?

Depends on how you personally hear audio. Nobody but yourself can really define how much of an upgrade it'd be.

I will say they are definitely an upgrade, though theyre an entirely different sound signature.

You may want to look to other headphones. If you like 668b's DT 990's or even 880's are a logical upgrade, though do cost more than 558/598's. Worth it imo, especially if you prefer that signature.

>>58607213
I thought HD668Bs very pretty neutral (or at least they're balanced). I'm not a bass fan and I don't really mind the high trebles on my headphones (maybe I did a bit at first and I got used to them)

>Budget
100€ price target, 150€ hard limit.

>Location
Europe,France

>Source
HTC One M9.

>Type of headphone
IEMs

>Comfort level
Sufficiently comfortable to be worn several hours.
I'm working in an open space, and I'm listening to music when the office gets noisy, because other conversations tend to distract me.

>Sound signature
Bassy I guess (Sennheiser CX 3.00-like)

>Past headphones
Stock HTC headphones.

I've got a pair of Sennheiser CX 3.00 which I've tested, but I'm not using them on my phone because:
1. the angled plug isn't practical, especially when watching videos.
2. the 3.5mm jack "grip" isn't satisfactory: A light pull easily unplugs the cable (unlike the stock headphones), which happens way more often than acceptable when moving.
3. it doesn't feature a microphone, and hands-free mode is a requirement when placing calls.

> Extra comments
I'm using the CX 3.00 on my PC occasionally. I'm happy with them for what I'm doing so far.

>>58607231
The DT 990 are pretty much around the same price as the 558/598 but I've been told they're worse than the 880 which cost more than the Sennheisers

>>58607286
have a look at k240 instead of the 558

Are any of you guys pre-ordering these? https://www.revols.com/

Should I get them?

>>58607315
se215

>>58607286
668B aren't neutral. Theyre bright with a massive midbass hump. V-shape without the sub-bass.

>>58607324
They're neither better or worse. 990's are heavily V-shaped, 880's are warm-ish neutral with a large treble spike. Theyre just tonally different. Its down to whatever you prefer.

The sound sig of the 668b is actually quite similar to DT 990's.

>>58607328
Pre-ordering audio products is the dumbest thing in the fucking world, especially on the transducer side. Somewhat makes sense with a DAC/Amp but even then you have risks.

Especially when its some dumb kickstarter shit. You're asking to be jewed. Wait for reviews.

Hey hpg any of you have KZ ZST Colorfuls? If you do whats your opinion about them?

Cables are getting annoying while gaming so I'm thinking about getting a bluetooth headset.

Is the Steelseries Siberia 800 ok or are there better ones for the same price?

>Budget
$150-$200

>Location
US

>Source
Soundblaster Z

>Type of headphone
Full sized

>Comfort level
Med-high

>Sound signature
V- shaped

>Past headphones
Ultrasone 780's, which I like a lot, but there getting old and I'd like to see if there's anything better.

There are pretty much only for my computer, so ability to travel isn't an issue.

>>58608256
dt770 80 ohm

>>58608157
its ok but the cable is like 2ft

>>58608140
Might want to ask /csg/ too

>>58595266
Can anyone help me find some pads for my pxc-550? I heard Velour is a great pad to go with, and I'm wondering if anyone can help me find some (or any other material that is better) that can go along with the pxc-550s? Thank you.
I want something more comfortable than the HZP 49 pads that come with it

>>58602289
They're built like a toy. They have tight, deep bass that suffices for EDM/Rap/Pop, clean mids though are bright as fuck because of the lean bass. Soundstage works magic on competitive shooters like CSGO. Stock pads are terrible and were replaced by Cosmos AKG K240 pads on Amazon. They eventually got replaced after a year due to channel Imbalance in the right cup. I replaced them with 668B's and used the 681 driver filters to tame the highs a bit on the 668B's. Only complaints about the 668B's is the build quality and the wing system is putting dents in my head.

Is there a scientific method of finding out if my headphones are unbalanced without needing expensive equipment or will I always just be paranoid in thinking that I'm hearing my right ear more than my left?

I had the same issue with my old headphones, too.

Help me pick headphones, /hpg/:

>Budget
$150-$200
>Location
US
>Source
Directly into my computer until I purchase a DAC, then the DAC
>Type of headphone
Full-size over-the-ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
I want it to feel like a cloud is hugging my head
>Sound signature
Neutral-to-warm
>Past headphones
None worth mentioning

If they're made in China they had at least better be made well. I'm buying something that I want to last.

>>58609772
558, 598 if you're too lazy to do the foam mod, fidelio x2 if you find some more money

if you purchase a dac, get an amp dac instead, like the fulla 2 or e10k

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V-MODA Crossfade LP2 Vocal Limited Edition any good?

sorta feel like getting ath-m-50x for casual use, does /hpg/ recommend

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Budget
$150-$350 (in future will add budget)
>Location
Kimchi land (but i can use ebay)
>Source
DAC/amp to PC
>Type of headphone
Full-size over-the-ear
>Open or closed
close
>Comfort level
I want it to feel like a cloud is hugging my head
>Sound signature
Nigga base
>Past headphones
shitty convenience store earphone and xiaomi hybrid

Somebody suggested

AKG K-701
dt880
m70x
but i had no head phone experience and lack of knowledge. what is best deal?

>>58610027
>Comfort level
fix it 4 hour+ usable
i pasted template from another anon

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>Budget
€200
>Location
N̶e̶w̶ ̶S̶y̶r̶i̶a̶ Germany
>Source
asus xonar essence stx
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very
>Sound signature
No idea. I mostly listen to movies, vidya and meme videos on youtube
>Past headphones
DT880s. They're great but I also want closed.

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Can someone suggest me a decent pair of headphones with good soundstage for vidyagames and casual listening to music?
>Budget
<150€ pretty much
Just give me some ideas, I'll research them myself

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>>58610027
>closed
>cloud on head comfort level
>nigga bass

can rule out K701 and M70X. DT 880 are the best of the three for your case, but they are semi open and I have heard about some comfort issues, and it doesn't have nigga bass.

if you can find some Denon ADH2000 I would suggest those.

Looking for something like X2, similar bass but a bit on the brighter side, is there any hope?

>>58610129
thanks i will read some review

>>58610083
dt770

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>>58610178
here is a sound demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V0TRzFQKYU

tyell talking about Denon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG6tfCCZgGc

http://www.head-fi.org/products/denon-ahd2000-high-performance-over-ear-headphones

Is the Fulla 2 strong enough to power a set of Fostex T50RP MK3's? I've heard they are quite hard to drive.

>>58610268
nope, would need a Magni 2

>>58610218
thank you very much if i have to deal with 'nigga base' midrange base is ok too

>>58609769
i have an incredibly cost effective method
fucking flip them around so left side is on your right

>>58610322
if you really want some thump look into JBL Synchros

https://www.amazon.com/JBL-Synchros-S700-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B00FF9FI26

>>58610027
Modhouse argon, DT 770

770's will isolate more, but argons will have more midbass and comfort

I just got a pair of Oppo PM3's a few weeks ago. They sound nice, but I still can't get a really good seal because of my glasses. I'm thinking about returning them and just sticking with my Etymotic ER4XR IEMs. Sound decision?

>>58600479
>Burn in is useless
If I remember correctly, it is useful for analogue, and that's where the modern-day myth comes from, right? So a tube amp with new vacuum tubes could be "improved" with some burn in, I believe... I just don't know to what degree, probably depends on the tolerances in the design.

>>58610393
You could try swapping pads to more supple plush pads, otherwise you dont have much of an option.

>>58610451
Unfortunately, the Oppos don't have replaceable pads. The planar magnetic sound is nice, and the pads are really comfy, but yeah, I think I'll need to send them back.

>>58610027
>>58610083

Dt770 80ohms

I recently got a pair of the moonland Zero Audio Carbo Tenores because I wanted some small, cheap IEMs for the train. I thought they were just a meme, but they actually have pretty decent sound, especially for the price, and are comfy. Probably the best $30 earbuds I've bought.

>>58610433
Not him, but headphones are analogue. Though yes, it does apply to tubes.

Though people misuse the term burn in. What you're actually reffering to is break in. Burn in was originally used as a term for testing to see if components in electronics 'burned', as electronics used to be not as reliable. Not the same thing that is said to happen to headphones.

I personally believe burn in does happen to headphones, but only with specific drivers, and even then rarely to the degree that people often profess. An hour at most is typically more than enough, and the majority of changes are your brain getting used to the sound rather than the driver changing.

I buy a lot of drivers for headphone modding, and the vast majority don't change one bit from when I start using them to when I'm done, except for a couple. Once in a while I'll get a driver type that sounds complete shit. Incredibly anemic low end has always been the case. When I start using it and then after a while they sound a lot better. I also experienced this with Custom One Pros, but not to the same degree. I've measured this too. Changes were in fact not my hearing being down syndrome. Took pads off during the break in so it's not the pads softening up with use either.

>>58610433
>it is useful for analogue
I don't know about tubes, but unless it's a class D amp it's pretty much going to be analog. I don't think a class D headphone amp would be easy to find, the main advantage of those is their efficiency, which doesn't really matter at the very low power levels you'd use for headphones.

>>58610496
You could probably find a way. Often people just stretch the pad over the entire rim of the headphone if it doesn't have conventional pad attatchments, which you could quite easily do with the PM3.

>>58610602
You underestimate how much Oppo doesn't want you to take off those PM3 pads.
Anyway, the point of the pads is to obsessively minimize induced leak, so hackjob pads are not very useful.

>>58610433
>it is useful for analogue
No.
>So a tube amp with new vacuum tubes could be "improved" with some burn in
The usual term thrown around here is warm up, which reflects the time varying properties of the device. This is not a permanent change.

>If you want to cut a bunch of tl;dr, it's all mental acclimation. The mind dominates over all the real physical changes.
>If you want to look at it physically:
>Any real "burn-in" from a change in material stiffness would be very bad.
>Strain of a material of material is stable when subject to limited stresses, limited forces. Very large movements overwhelm the elasticity of the material and result in permanent deformation, eventually followed by tearing itself apart.
>Earpads wear down, produces a less destructive change in response. Affects sealing and shape of cavity.
>There's the changes that may result from heat, thermal compression or change in the the stiffness of the material from heating. These aren't permanent, and the device will revert back to normal once it cools off.

>>58610594
Class D amplification is still analog domain. You can control the switching by digital methods, but it's still an analog domain signal.

How can I tell if I prefer a neutral sound or a v-shaped one?
I currently own a pair of Superlux with v-shaped sound and I always thought they're pretty balanced but I recently discovered they're not neutral. How can I know if I would hate buying an expensive pair of neutral-sounding headphones?

>>58610838
>You underestimate how much Oppo doesn't want you to take off those PM3 pads.
That's unfortunate. Non removable pads is shit tier.

>Anyway, the point of the pads is to obsessively minimize induced leak, so hackjob pads are not very useful.
Stretching them over the rim of the enclosure would hardly give any more leak than whatever Oppo did. Glue I assume.

>>58610847
Buy a neutral headphone
Or go to a local music store and test them. Check measurements for each headphone too.

>>58610847
What Superluxes are you using? 668B? 662? 669?

Any opinions on the ISK HD9999?

>>58602923
Which one?

>>58611008
Ask /csg/, though I doubt anyone owns one. Might be head-fi threads about them.

>>58611035
csg is retarded

>>58611072
Retarded answers are better than no answers. /csg/ isn't too awful either. A good bunch of them post here too, and thus carrying across a lot of their cheap audio finds.

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>mfw people are too beta to wear Headphones in public and would rather choose earbuds that have such low performance because they're too afraid of being noticed

>>58611112
I BE WEARING MY LCDX ON PUBLIC TRANSPORT
WORKZ GUD

>budget
80$
>source
Phone or laptop

Can be closed or open

Mainly for.music maybe a little gaming

>prev headphones
Skullcandy HESH 2

>>58610899
Don't have any decent headphone store nearby. Might have to buy them directly.
>>58610986
668B

>>58611249
That's unfortunate. If you live in the US and have had an account for a while, you can abuse amazon's return policies.

>>58611256
I live in Europe and usually buy on Amazon through my brother's account. I'm not sure if I could do that

>>58611249
Install equalizer APO (with Peace GUI Frontend optional) and EQ out the Midbass hump and the treble spike. If you miss the Bass, you'll want a bassy headphone. If you miss the female vocal clarity/sparkle, maybe you'll want a bright headphone.

>>58610138
pls respond

>>58611315
I'll try that tomorrow. I want bass, just not exaggerated, but also not lacking at all. As for trebles and voices my HD668B sound fine to me

>>58611337
If you dont mind them being closed, maybe ATH-A500/700/900 if you can find them. Someone else would probably think of a better recommendation than I though

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>>58611486
>>58610138

I can't speak to the ATH-A500 or A900, because I've never heard them, but I've got the A700 and it's pretty light on bass. I would recommend it for closed and bright, but not for any real amount of bass.

>>58610138
>>58611541
Maybe Samson SR850's?

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TH-X00: meme?

>>58611823
Are they back on MD? I've been thinking they're probably a meme, but I'm still curious.

>>58611823
>no detachable cable
Aren't they like $350-400?

>>58611869
Yep. One one hand, it's really fucking easy to not break stuff, so it oughtn't be a problem. On the other, there's no good reason to *not* have a detachable cable.

>>58611980
It just seems nice to have when you have a wire going to each cup in case a driver or wire dies for easier maintnence. I'm fine with a non detactable wire if it's on one side.

>>58612053
This. Dual-entry non-detach is a sin.

>>58612094
>The X00 wires are thin too
REEEE

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All things considered is there anything better for the price?

>>58611823
If you want a bassy comfy pleasure can, no. They're great. Stock pads aren't the greatest tho.

>>58611015
fake/illegal ones?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Head-Band-Stereo-Headphones-Computer-Game-DJ-Monitor-Large-Diaphragm-Headset-For-SONY-MDR-7506-Charms/32705922625.html

>>58612728
shitty speakers

> Remove my IEMs
> The silicon tip stays in my ear
What the fuck is this garbage.

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What are a good pair of Noise cancelling headphones around the $50-150 range?

Noise cancelling and sound quality are the most important things to me, I could care less about battery life, aesthetics or comfort as I'll only wear them 2 hours max a day.

>>58612926
I think Sennheiser announced a pair of wireless headphones with ANC recently for 150$
Might want to wait to see how those sound

>>58612924
Get properly fitting tips you mongoloid
Though if they came with the IEM i cant really blame you

>>58613041
They came with the IEM senpai.
It came with four tips, I was using the normal ones I wear daily and when I took it off the tip just stayed there. Luckily it wasn't inserted too deep and I managed to take it out with my fingers.

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With the addition of the X2s to my collection, I am now living the

P H I L I P S L I F E S T Y L E

also including my: Philips Sonicare toothbrush, Philips Hue lightbulbs, Philips goLITE BLU (Hacker News memed me into buying this to cure my winter feels), and Philips Multigroom beard/hair trimmer

buy P H I L I P S products to live a healthy, fun, modern lifestyle

>>58613107
>P H I L I P S L I F E S T Y L E
Sounds good man.

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>>58613258
it consists of warm, balanced sound and a distinct lack of Seasonal Affective Disorder. i am NOT feeling the winter blues. not making purchases to fill the void.

>>58613341
What the fuck is this shit? I'm a nocturnal NEET who hasn't seen daylight in a decade, will this shit help me?

What's the sound stage on these open back Philips that everyone is raving about like?

Are they called 9500?

>>58613435
No wait do I mean X2?

>>58613410
it's like the opposite of f.lux. i use it in the morning for about 15 mins, and it does give me the feeling of a bit more energy (could be placebo, not sure).

>>58613466
>could be placebo, not sure
Doesn't really matter, mood isn't a tangible thing.You made me curious about this gadget now.

>>58613435
shp9500, yeah it's very wide. it's got good imaging so it's great for listening to music and watching movies.

>>58613435
>>58613462
No I mean SHP9500 they're ten times cheaper than the others

>>58613490
Alright good stuff
The movies thing is pretty important if it's the main pair of cans connected to your computer
Well it is for me

>>58613482
true. the biggest problem is that it's kinda expensive at $100, but i was afraid of the cheaper knock offs burning my retinas out.

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>>58613482
>>58613341
I am now very intrigued by this device. It claims to assist in waking up.

we P H I L I P S L I F E S T Y L E now!

>>58613521
My sister has that
She's still depressed

>>58613509
Yeah I use my headphones to watch movies more than I listen to music. The only problem is that torrented movies typically have shit audio quality, unless you're downloading full 10GB BR rips or 10bit HVEC files

>>58613519
Seems there's a bunch of versions, some older one that looks like a checkers board and new fancy ones, which one is the best?

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>>58613534

>>58613548
I feel like 10Bit HEVC is becoming a thing
That's certainly how I try to get popular stuff like HBO shows
It's not just movies though. Muh gaymen needs soundstage too

>>58611112
Been wearing my msr7s less and less out and about because it is a pain in the ass packing and unpacking them every time.

Earbuds just slip in your pocket, and there is a lot of ambient noise in public spaces which makes sound quality near damn moot point unless you have godly passive isolation which is never ever EVER the case at lower frequencies.

>>58613553
i have the one in the picture with the macbook guy. bought it a year ago. they all do the same thing pretty much, so you're probably good with whichever you can find cheapest. also i'm not sure how they compare with the alarm clock ones.

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>>58613598
>10Bit HEVC won't play on my G3

I know this isn't exactly headphones, but I feel like this is the right place to ask...

What is the difference between https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0078Q35PG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=35CI6X5GP5KZA&coliid=I342KOB1BJP64U

and

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006IPH5H2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=35CI6X5GP5KZA&coliid=I2A3EQB18SUXYP

Both have amazing reviews. Both claim to play 24/96. One is $150 cheaper. What's the difference?

>>58613832
One is considerably cheaper.

You're welcome.

>>58613832
Or how about this?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KNNSKV0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=35CI6X5GP5KZA&coliid=I2QGLYP1G4A9ZK

Also claims to play 24/96, and it's just $20ish. What's the difference? I know there are a few output/input differences but those cant be changing hundreds of dollars in price...

>>58613856
Is there no difference in sound quality whatsoever?

>>58613890
Not really, when searching for dacs, look for features. The volume knob on the cheaper one is actually very useful and allows you to control volume if you're running wasapi for example, something you can't do with volume controllers on keyboards and similar since those work under directsound.

When searching amplifiers, look for their specs and what your headphones need, make sure the output impedance is fitting and that they can power up your headphones properly.

Everything else is just snake oil.

>>58613875
The first one is actually good

The second one is ATH-m50 meme tier

And the third is just bad

That's about it, too lazy to write the technicalities of why each is their own

>Budget
$100 or less
>Source
Smartphone
>Type of headphone
In Ear
>Comfort level
Decent enough, will trade comfort for sound
>Sound signature
A bit more bassy

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>>58614125
>Smartphone
>Earbuds
>Bass
What's wrong with you?

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>>58614186
I like techno and I go outside, sorry

Can you use the internal DAC but bypass the internal amp via the line out port, or any other method?

I read about how double amping is bad, but can't that be avoided by plugging an external amp into the line out on the back of the mobo and not the headphone jack in the front? Or am I completely wrong in what I think a line out does? Because that is also likely.

Bought a pair of Bose qc35. How did I do?

budget: 40 and under
last headphones i wore: brainwavz s1
IEM only
source: phone
fucking acoustic filter fell off

>>58614819
i hope you ride airplanes a lot

https:// www. monoprice.com/product?c_id=120&cp_id=12001&cs_id=1082303&p_id=18516&seq=1&format=2
has anyone heard of these before?

>>58611112
I use in ears because they are the highest performance personal listening devices I can think of, offers isolation, easy to drive, easy to carry and tuck away and they don't mess up my hair. So Etymotics.

What decides the difference in quality between listening to music on a mobile device or a PC?

>budget
80$
>source
Phone or laptop

Can be closed or open

Mainly for.music maybe a little gaming

>prev headphones
Skullcandy HESH 2

>>58615322
If you're plugging headphones into a 3.5mm jack found on the pc's i/o sections, then there is no difference. The DAC found on the PC will be slightly better than the DAC on the phone, but not significantly so.

However, quality of the headphones has a lot to do with it. If you are running your audio out of a toslink/coax output, through a DAC, and an AMP to properly drive some Sennheiser 700's....you will notice a *significant* difference compared to the phone's 3.5mm jack.

Tl;dr mostly how you drive the headphones.

>>58615435
Your opinion is misinformed and you should feel bad.

>>58615410
Any preferred sound signature? I remember getting my first decent headphone after Hesh2's. Hesh2's are hot garbage.

>>58595266
What do you guys think of Edifier as a brand? I don't really want to wear my 880's all day, although very comfy.
Thought about getting their RT1700 budget/midrange 2.0 speakers for like 130 bucks.

>>58615575
I like bass and i like clear vocals

>>58615708
Samson SR950's or Superlux HD 669.
Maybe NVX XPT 100

>>58615435
ever seen phones measured? ever seen motherboards measured? you can't generalize it like that.

also the next bit of dacs(which aren't headphone related) to amplification of some random pair of headphones and then connecting this nonsense into human audible differences(without stating what it even is) is just plain wrong.

Want some Bluetooth headphones (have newborn baby, want to watch TV). Are there any that are /g/ approved?

>>58614918
Probably not. Also considering the main icon of those is a skull getting damaged by noise, I'd recommend against them.

What good headphone line uses such a gimmick image? Monoprice however does make decent affordable headphones/earphones. I would guarantee however that is not one of them.

I need help before I purchase.

I currently have a Logitech G430 headset and are thinking of buying some ATH M50x's.

My question is will I notice much of a difference in sound?
I always use Logitech surround sound software if that makes a difference.

>>58616324
Of course you'll notice a difference. You'll want your 430's back. Fill out the purchase form in the wiki.

>>58615322
The quality of the output mainly. You can't make a generalization between a PC or a mobile device.

Things to look out for in a good quality output:

>Low noise and no interference, output stays silent when nothing is playing
>Enough power(voltage) to drive the headphones loud enough, this depends equally on the load(headphone) sensitivity
>No distortion when overloading the amplifier(clipping) at high volume setting
>Low output impedance(ideally near zero) to avoid frequency response shifts
>Extended and flat frequency response(easy, almost never a problem), no channel imbalance at high attenuation(not a problem with digital volume control)

All of these criteria can be satisfied with relative ease and for modest amount of money. Source quality can matter too but it's unrelated to the points made above, isn't related to the device you use for playback and easily achieves transparency.

Is the superlux hd669 good?

How do I make the dt770s good for gaming?

I wanna be able to hear footsteps.

>>58617532
Use them? I don't think the response masks them much. If you feel like you need to hear certain frequency range better, use and equalizer.

I recently got a $10 pair of Vivitar Listen Up (I think) headphones from the checkout at Wal-Mart. Standard bluetooth headset: foldable, buttons, aux in, microphone

I was honestly flabbergasted at the quality. The headphones are ok (sound better than most cheaper headphones, but obviously missing some bass compared to my supraaurals), stereo sound (I've seen mono, ugh), mic works, and I think it holds a good charge: the first charge charged and ran down quick, but second took longer and I listened to two albums I think without needing to recharge. Instructions even said to charge multiple times.

For $10, I'm going to grab another pair if they're still around in a month (shouldn't have bought them in the first place).

I've had other bluetooth headsets, and they broke to fuck. Got one working pair and the other I turned into a rechargeable bluetooth hockey-puck sink (basically soldered a headphone out on it so you can connect it to any speakers, and left the battery and usb in, cutting off the one earpiece)

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Im thinking about getting these. Anyone had them? Are they shit or ok? Can i get something cheaper that sounds good? Im using superlux hd688b at home and i would like some earbuds with similar sound quality.

>>58617532
you don't change them

>>58617859
>earbuds
>sound quality
Enjoy your ear infections

>>58617910
Retard.

>>58617859
No idea but the same company has the M9 which are a pretty good deal. Don't know anything about the M6.

>>58617910
in ears* and best types are absolutely fantastic

>>58616964
I have the Samson SR950, the rebranded 669's. For my first pair of closed headphones, they're great. The bass is lowkey nig tier whereas my 668B's (open varient) sound perfect. Do do really well for movies and music and perform well for gaming.

Got a pair of senn HD598C's, are they worth it or did I make a bad call. 99euros on amazon.

>>58618729
>C
fucked up

need some cheap iems, what do i get anons

>>58599409
monoprice is about as good as you're gonna get. Not exactly durable expect them to break after a few months but otherwise pretty good.

>>58614794
Yes, that's what line out is for.

>>58616324
Why do you want M50x?

I'd highly suggest filling out the form for advice.

>>58617859
Yeah for the price they're decent. You can get Chi-Fi gear for cheaper that sounds better, but that often requires a lot of research to find what you want.

>>58619518
Fill out the form.

>>58616324
surround sound in headphones is a meme
it doesn't make a difference when the speakers are that up close to your ears

>tfw ordered superlux 668b and 662 evo
I did this so I could cover both open and closed headphones based on my environment, but should I have just bought 1 semi-decent headphone for $70?

>>58613607
>not just hanging them on your neck

>>58619916
not him but they're kinda big for that

>>58619817
AD-500X/558's/SHP 9500?

>>58620006
It works but they are a little tight on the neck.

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Neutral or V-Shaped?

>>58620771
are you making the music or enjoying the music?

>>58620771
Neutral, always.

>>58620863
Listening to it, but not so often and I would rather have good soundstage in games instead but I also don't want to spend a lot of money on headphones that will sound bad with music

Creative Aurvana Live

A gem for any Audiophile

>>58620771
Down to preference. A slight V-shape is my favorite but it changes for genre.

I want a pair of headphones under 150€ that are pretty neutral, have decent soundstage for positioning in games and don't sound too bassy or too bright (I don't mind bright too much)
Any ideas? I'm currently researching between AD700X and HD598 but I'm not sure

What's the most comfortable pair I can get for up to $150? The 80 ohm DT 770? I'm looking for closed headphones, but I'm open for suggestions for semi-open or even open ones if they are really that much more comfortable. I'm planning on getting a ModMic with it, so $150 is the absolute highest I can go. Also don't want anything that needs and amp.

>>58619518
philips she3590
https://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHE3590BK-28-Headphones-Black/dp/B007TRUTZS

v shaped. pretty well extended bass without being boomy

>>58621243
770, 598C, M40x, or Brainwavz HM5
770 for heavy v-shape, 598Cs for modest V-shape
HM5 for moderately boosted bass.
M40x + HM5 pads for slight V-shape

770 is build the best and should last a decade, and has replaceable parts if shit happens.
598Cs is built decently but has weak spots at the rotation parts, like all other Senny 5XX series. Dunno if Sennheiser sells replacement parts for the 5XX series.
HM5 is also built decently but has weak spots again at the rotation part. Replacement parts will be difficult/impossible to come by
M40x are built well. Some have had problems with the folding hinge but its quite a popular headphone so there are bound to be examples.

M40x is most isolating, 770 is second, HM5 is third, last is 598Cs. 770 80 ohm doesnt need an amp, and neither do the others.

770 is the most comfortable, but can have issues if you're not a fan of circular pads. M40x is awful stock, but once pads are on the only potential issue is clamp. Stretch it over a
pillow to your liking. Slap some HM5 pads on the M40x and you've got a nice comfy set of cans. Other two are pretty much the same in comfort and use quite similar pads.

Another option is the Hyper X Cloud Core. Theyre cheap, built decently, compete quite well will the above, and have an included removable microphone. Comfort isn't too bad, but you can throw on some HM5 pads and be uber comfy. I ran this set up for quite a while and loved it. You dont have to pay for a modmic, and it doesnt sound much worse if at all. They're a moderate V-shape.

>I'm open for suggestions for semi-open or even open ones if they are really that much more comfortable.
Open/close/semi doesnt really affect comfort other than breathability, but large pads that dont clamp hard usually are okay with that anyway. 770 is the most breathable. Only get open if you live in a quiet environment.

>tldr
IMO go with either 770's if you want V-shape, Cloud cores if you don't know, M40x+HM5 if you want closest to neutral.

>>58621802
Thanks for the reply anon. I actually already own and am currently using the original Cloud with HM5 velour pads, and I don't have any real problems with it, but was considering switching to something different if there was something more comfortable with better audio quality for that price range. I might go for the 770's with the ModMic if the price drops a bit on Amazon. Should have probably picked them up around Black Friday but forgot about it. Considering you already used it, am I missing much compared to the 770 or M40x you recommended, or should I just not bother with it?

>>58621890
>am I missing much compared to the 770 or M40x you recommended, or should I just not bother with it?
Hardly. Clouds with HM5 pads are going to be just as comfy as any of the others other than the 770, and are 90% of the way in terms of raw quality. 770's are worth it if you want V-shape, as they're a bit ahead of the others, but otherwise I'd say save up and jump to a higher price-range. You're not getting much for your money if you're only going to be replacing an already good headphone with a slightly better headphone. Though that changes somewhat if you're planning on selling your Cloud Cores.

Save up for something like a Fostex THX00 or other headphones of that caliber, though 770's may be worth it.

If you want to improve comfort you could put better pads like ZMF of Alpha pads, or even the new lambskin Brainwavz pads. Would still be cheaper than new headphones.

>>58622001
I think I'll wait until either I can find the 770 for a better price or I'm ready to step up to a higher price bracket. The sheepskin leather earpads from Brainwavz look pretty nice and not that expensive though, so I might pick them up. How does that compare to velour for sound isolation? I couldn't really use the stock Cloud leatherette pads because they pretty much blocked all sound and that annoyed me a bit.

Thanks again anon.

>>58622074
>The sheepskin leather earpads from Brainwavz look pretty nice and not that expensive though, so I might pick them up. How does that compare to velour for sound isolation?
They isolate a lot more.

>I couldn't really use the stock Cloud leatherette pads because they pretty much blocked all sound and that annoyed me a bit.
Oh, so you don't want isolation? You may want to look to open headphones, though if you want V-shape you don't have that many options. 990's could be an option. Theyre pretty much just open 770's but even more V-shaped.

>>58613107
Their shavers are über dogshit tho, like holy shit man.

>>58622171
Braun 4 lyfe

>>58622175
Wood axe 4 lyfe

>>58622175
Muh niggua, I had really bad problems with piplips shavers, esp when it came to shaving sides but braun made things look too easy.

>>58622144
I don't really like audio leaking that much, but also don't like being basically deaf for everything happening outside the headphones, which kinda happened with the leatherette pads. I wear headphones almost all day, so I need to be able to hear things around me without having to take them off, but also don't want other people to be able to listen to them. Regardless, the 990's look nice, and if/when I decide to try an open pair, I might consider them.

>>58622218
Philips has the worst fucking shaving heads ever, they get dull extremely fast.

>>58595870
What pads you using with those sonys?

>>58622261
They look like DT250 pads, which are pretty much the go-to for M40x/7506 velours.

Ok boyz, I am that anon who got an Element dac/amp recently, and I was finally able to test it right. Overall it's an improvement over my stock macbook, tighter bass, better detail, better highs and things just sound much cleared. HOWEVER, there is one thing that I didn't enjoy at all and that bugs me out more and more, vocals. Vocals feel dryer, they sound clearer and more detailed with element, but dryer. My headphones are HD600 and yes I know HD650 are warmer sounding but I've got HD600 long time ago and there is no way back.

What should I do? I still can return Element and get refund. Should I do it and look for another amp/dac? Which one? Or maybe I can equalise female vocals to sound less dry?

>>58622261
>>58622272
Yup, they're DT250s
So fucking comfy