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I've just installed waterfox-bin from AUR and holy fuck

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I've just installed waterfox-bin from AUR and holy fuck it's fast. And what is even better, it uses the same config and profile as firefox, you can just close firefox will all its tabs and they will reopen in waterfox.

I did some benchmark and it seems that waterfox is 2x faster than firefox on my system: https://web.basemark.com/

desktop using Linux 0.0 with Firefox 50.0 score:
297.9
breakdownbreakdown
Conformance
CSS Capabilities
53.45%
HTML5 Capabilities
82.88%
Page Load and Responsiveness Capabilities
93.82%
Resize Capabilities
75.86%

desktop using Linux 0.0 with Waterfox 50.1.0 score:
512.06
breakdownbreakdown
Conformance
CSS Capabilities
53.45%
HTML5 Capabilities
86.31%
Page Load and Responsiveness Capabilities
93.95%
Resize Capabilities
75.86%

How can firefox ever recover?
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>>58595229
plus no sjw agenda
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>>58595229

Is waterfox on Windows?
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The only thing I have problem with is insane tearing when scrolling (smooth scrolling disabled). If someone has a fix I would appreciate. I've tried

gfx.vsync.compositor true
gfx.vsync.hw-vsync.enabled
gfx.vsync.refreshdriver

I have disabled vsync in nvidia-settings for vidya gamez, do I have to enable it?

>>58595255
Waterfox was primarly a 64-bit version of Firefox for Windows. So yes.
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Okay I think I fixed the tearing

gfx.xrender.enabled true
gfx.direct2d.force-enabled true
gfx.use_text_smoothing_setting true
gfx.direct2d.disabled false

Don't know which one exactly helps, but there is literally no reason to use firefox or palemoon now (especially palemoon that piece of shit).
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>>58595362
Thanks, will try tonight.
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And now you're going to install ungoogled-chromium
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I do like waterfox too but the youtube ui and heavy sites in general run better in chromium based browsers.
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>>58595426
And how exactly is chromium better? For me the only better thing in chrome was it's responsiveness but firefox has much better configuration
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>>58595426
shill plz go
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>>58595229


Did they fork this or does the code base get merged regularly with the mozilla source?
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>>58596626
The dev just changes some extremely minor shit and compile it in Clang (previously ICC but he gave up rewriting code to make it compatible) instead of GCC.
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>>58595229
what fingerprinting scores does it get on panopticlick?
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>>58595229
can I sync my bookmarks like I already do with chrome and firefox? I like having the same bookmarks on all my devices.
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>linux 0.0
also just use pgo when compiling normal firefox. You will get the same effect.
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yo, I just untar the files. where should I dump this folder under?
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I installed this and tested it for a while, didn't notice any improvements. Seems like a placebo to me, or you fucked your Firefox install up so badly that a fresh one is much faster. That's the problem with software that gives its users freedom, and part of why Chrome is consistently faster - Chrome users have extremely limited control over their browser.
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I just ran waterfox for about 30 minutes with only 5 tabs and it was already using 750MB of Ram from basic web browsing. No youtube or any web apps.

Kind of shitty op.
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>>58597778
so by that logic we should we should just run edge.
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I can't even get that pile of shit to render a page. Extremely doubtful it's 2x as fast as normal Firefox.
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5 Socialisms have been deposited into your account
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>>58595268
in firefox i had terrible screen tearing with hardware acceleration enabled. If the settings are at all similar try that.
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lul @ Chromium
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>tfw forced to use Firefox because of the addons

Should I switch to Waterfox? I'm using Windows 10.
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Sweet shill thread. Nobody wants to hear about some shitty firefox ripoff you and your mom cooked up to ace some benchmarks.
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I already asked this question in another one of the shill threads for waterfox but here we go again:
>Firefox:
>HTML5 Capabilities
>82.88%
>Waterfox:
>HTML5 Capabilities
>86.31%
How the fuck can waterfox have better HTML5 capabilities than Firefox if it's just using a regular Gecko engine?
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>>58597346
>compiling firefox
it will take a few hours, I'd rather just get a binary
>>58597778
I even said that it works by using the same config/profile as normal firefox, so there was no fresh installation - the only thing that changed was the binary, settings/addons/etc is all the same
>>58597830
unused ram is wasted ram, btw what OS?
>>58598141
>I'm using Windows 10
I recommend killing yourself, or atleast stop asking stupid question, install the fucking browser, do a benchmark and if you don't like it just uninstall
>>58598167
it goes so fast I have to play eurobeats when surfing the webz now and I want the same experience for /g/entoomen
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>>58598219
ubuntu mate. poor excuse for poor memory management
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>>58598219
>I recommend killing yourself, or atleast stop asking stupid question, install the fucking browser, do a benchmark and if you don't like it just uninstall

Woah, fella, I'm just asking a friendly question.

I just switched back to Windows after exclusively using Linux for 6 months and getting fed up with it. Windows allows me to get more work done.

Doing my own benchmarks requires time and effort. I just want to know what other people have experienced.
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>>58597851
it's literally the same browser, just compiled with optimalization flags for modern CPUs and some telemetry shit removed
so no wonders that it won't run on your pentium 3
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>>58598219
Are you using a computer from the 90s?
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>>58598246
>Doing my own benchmarks requires time and effort
nigga just open the fucking link, click start and wait 3 minutes
>>58598257
I've never actually compiled something that big, figured it would be longer
still too long though, especially considering that there is no reason to do it if I can just get a binary which is also slightly better than original
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>>58597295
Yes, your bookmarks are saved under your user directory. Not just in your browser, Windows user.
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>>58598257
Not him but on muh gentoo with an i5-44XX, compiling firefox takes about 45 minutes.

Still waiting for an answer to >>58598216 btw. If anyone can answer please do.
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>>58598282
I'm using a 4690, also on gentoo. I doubt it takes 3 times as long on something thats only a tiny bit slower than what I have.
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>>58598304
I don't know man, did you do anything specific to your install? I'm using git instead of rsync (but I doubt it affects anything when compiling shit) and my /var/tmp/portage is on tmpfs. I don't think I changed anything else.
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>>58598238
i don't know how to help you
RAM usage doesn't matter to me though, I only care about speed
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>>58598352
btw please ignore PRI 20, I will fix that later
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>>58598326
Same set up as you. I am using the "custom-optimization" use flag so that it uses the -02 option from my CFLAGS.
I guess thats probably the only difference.
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>>58598374
Oh I'm also using most of the "system-*" flags so that firefox isn't building its own copies. Thats probably where the most time savings are.
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>>58598381
Yeah I have these too. Also using +ffmpeg +hardened +jemalloc3 and +jit.
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>>58598421
hmm.
I'm only not using hardened.
Well it also looks like I don't have pgo set. It doubles compile time. So if you are using it then your time would be right where I would expect it.
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>>58598452
I don't use pgo either. But I just remembered that I also have --jobs and --load-average=3 in my make.conf, you probably don't and the difference between my compile time and yours must come from there.
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>>58598515
I'm using --jobs=3. All load-average does is stop other jobs from starting if its above the threshold.
The only other thing I can think of is MAKEOPTS. I have mine set to "-j5"

Besides that the only other thing I can think of is that a sorcerer cast an incantation on you
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>>58598554
I also have -j5 in my makeopts. This is really puzzling.
I'm still using firefox-45, if you're using firefox-50 maybe the build process has been improved?
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>>58595229
>Linux 0.0
>Linux 0.0
>Linux 0.0
>Linux 0.0
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>>58598554
I build firefox again just to make sure I wasn't telling you bullshit and it took 30 minutes. It's 33% faster than what I remembered but still a lot more than you. I wouldn't be surprised if it came from the check run by +hardened though. I guess the case is closed then :).
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>>58598620
$ uname -s -r -v
Linux 4.8.13-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 9 07:24:34 CET 2016
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>>58598623
That must be it. I don't run hardened though I have been thinking of switching to a hardened profile. But if I do it it would have to be hardened/musl.

I am using 50, and they removed firefox hello in 49 so there may have been some improvement in build time from that though I don't really know.
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>>58598662
From what I read using musl as your main libc on your desktop is a bad idea, there's a lot of software that relies on quirks of the glibc and would break when using a more "standard-compliant" libc.
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>>58598682
I'm well aware. Which is why I've been holding off.

I'm fine with testing things things and switching some things for alternatives if I need to. I switched to libressl for example but that was mostly a drop in replacement.
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>>58595229
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Who here /knows how to make this the default waterfox about:home css/?
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>>58595229
without sounding like a paranoid faggot who's it made by and has source been audited?
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>>58598682
Also I should add that some of the gentoo devs maintain a musl overlay with patches for quite a few things. https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/musl.git
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everyone itt:

>install waterfox
>configure it
>migrate
>one week later realize that one website has a weird quirk and go back to your old browser
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>>58598934
>configure it
please read thread, you don't configure anything
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fast like my feminine dick
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>spotify has more usage than waterfox
so is waterfox more lightweight cause used to be firefox at the top of my list
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>>58599345
If you want something lightweight something like surf, dwm, or uzbl if you need a gui. If you don't pretty much all the tui ones are pretty decent.
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>>58595229
just got 290.51 in standard firefox on windows 10 with a i5 3450.
Tell me how 297.9 is considered x2 performance.
Beside the nice logo, what's the point of this browser?
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>>58598246
Seeing as the anon is being an asshole.
Yes, it's far better on Windows than Firefucks is.
It's faster, and has full addon support for firefox extensions.
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>>58599641
firefox: 297.9
waterfox: 512.06

waterfox is 71% faster
not exactly 2 times but still a lot
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>>58599684
damn I didn't see the second benchmark result, my bad
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>>58595362

I have no problems with Pale moon at all but thanks for the suggestion I guess.
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try firefox-nightly
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>>58595229
i have been using waterfox for few years now, its faster than ff and more stable.
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>australis
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>>58595229
are addons supported?
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>>58599829
it's literally firefox with better compilation flags, nothing else
all addons werk
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>>58599871
looks like i have a new browser now
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>>58595426
>no good alternative to vimperator
into the trash it goes
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>>58599902
>no good alternative to Rikaisama

into le trash it goes
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>>58597830
Compare to 5 tabs over chrome
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I read somethings months back that Firefox ate ssd's.
Is this fixed? Is this still a problem in Fire/Waterfox? Didn't bother fixing it so installed chromium
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>>58595229
290 on firefox stable
430 on watefox
452 on firefox dev edition
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>>58600509
you can disable disk cache in any firefox, also can move profile dir to ramdisk
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>>58595229
somehow I don't trust it
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>>58600509
I have always used the cache directories on the SSD and it seems healthy still.
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>>58595229
desktop using Linux 0.0 with Chrome 55.0.2883.87 score:
635.65

breakdownbreakdown
Conformance
CSS Capabilities 57.86%
HTML5 Capabilities 96.04%
Page Load and Responsiveness Capabilities 93.14%
Resize Capabilities 75.97%
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>>58595229
So what exactly is the advantage of using this obscure spin-off?
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>>58598620
gollygeewizz@archbox ~]$ uname -s -r -v
Linux 4.8.13-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 9 07:24:34 CET 2016
[gollygeewizz@archbox ~]$
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>>58595229
got 436.69 on waterfox 50.1.0 and 446 on firefox 53 on wangblows
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>>58599937
Same person here. I've had chromium running with extensions since yesterday and I'm currently using 780 MB of ram with 24 tabs with youtube running on a couple.
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>>58603733
Pages load faster and seems to use less RAM (for me at least). Can do no harm to try it and if you don't like it or don't see a difference just stick with firefox.

When I installed it just now it has literally opened with all my bookmarks and preferences exactly as I had them on FF. It has required zero configuration. And pages load quicker for me.
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>>58604390
Holy... New version? Mine eats gigs of ram.
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>>58605704
Version 55.0.2883.87
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>>58605704
sorry, I just realized I had killed chrome earlier. Once I went through all the tabs it was the same ram pig it always is.
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