Anyone else late in their late 20s, have done nothing with their

>>58584303
demon

>>58584303
few weeks ago some anon explained how he makes money on app store so I'm following his lead.

been in webdev for years but it's fucking hard to make money. you have to contract, sub-contract, freelance and chase fucking contacts all the time. i was doing more networking than programming so I decided to ditch that and go the appstore route.

>>58584338

semen

>>58584303
>JS w/ jQuery
>Bootstrap/etc (that's how you make webpages look nice)
>Server side programming language (PHP, NodeJS, etc...)

Tbh, you won't matter unless you know a server side language. I would start with something like PHP, Node has a bit of a learning curve imo.

PHP is dated (everyone here probably hates me for telling you to learn it,) but a lot of applications still use it and they need to be upgraded/maintained.


Also, unless you like this stuff, you miiiiiiight want to find a different career path. Expect to be around a bunch of /g/ers at work.

>>58584303
are you me anon?

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>>58584372
No! He's me!

>>58584352
Care to share the wisdom with a miserable wagecuck? Muh appstore was always kind of intimidating.

>>58584366
As much as /g/ hates to admit it, Python is also a server side language. Django runs reddit and I'm pretty sure it still runs Instagram.

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I'm 30 and always wanted to do the same for the last 10 years. But I can't muster the motivation to do something about my shit life.

When I stalk the facebook of people I use to know they are all successful engineers, well travelled, husbands or dads.

No matter what I do now I can't catch up, my life is fucked forever. I can't bare living as a friendless, wageslave any more. But I can't fathom the idea that wealth will somehow enrich my empty life because no amount of money will make up for losing a decade of life experience.

I wish op didn't make me go look up the last friend I ever had - it was 8 years ago - he runs a 10 million start up and probably doesn't remember me.

I'm too much of a coward to kill myself.

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>>58584575
well, one anon explained how to make it in app store.

you basically look at top 100 apps in the store (be it apple or google store) and you look at what's selling. then you take one of the apps that you think you like and know how you'd improve (which isn't fucking hard) and you decide to replicate it but add some twist to it. then you start selling & making money. he was making something like $20/day after a week.

I'm learning swift now from the free Stanford course...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lRx1zoriPo&list=PLsJq-VuSo2k26duIWzNjXztkZ7VrbppkT

I did a lot more research on this and asked around on other forums and this seems like a great way to make money. of course you have to send free codes to online review sites but that's fucking easy marketing.

>>58584303
25 here, doing something similar but focusing on sysadmin and eventually infosec after some experience. Going to my local community college for both.

My old job downsized and let me go so at least the school is 95% free. This is helpful as my wife and I have our first child due soon. I'd prefer to have a better job than food service.

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>>58584737

>>58584738
the way she smiles at the two dangling balls makes me blush

>>58584852
def a cute chink. look natural too.. no surgeries

>>58584303
Yes but I'm learning physiotherapy instead.

>>58584841
my time is at least 300 years from now, i'm fucked whatever i do in the remaining years of my life.

>>58584841
(citation needed)

>>58584362
who

>>58584303
Same here. Would like to be in touch with you. Just add me in this fake gmail account with your fake one.
[email protected]

>>58584738
Yes I was there I am screen caping this.
Lets make weekly ProgramToMakeMoney threads. Will you or OP take care of this?

>>58584738
He didnt say play store. He specifically said App store coz google store is full of free apps and there are more odds developers making every new ideas

>>58585118
Pauline Hanson

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>>58585211
seems legit

>>58584737
>measuring success by looking at others instead of comparing what you want to accomplish with the steps you have taken to accomplish it
baka

>>58584852
8/10 would marry

>>58584841
Yeah that's bullshit.

>>58584737
You're dead inside. Me too. There doesn't seem to be anything you can do about it either, it's a personality thing.

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>>58584303
wat

>>58584841

This would be true if depression hadn't literally wasted 3 years of my life. Couldn't get out of bed except for work. Literally spent 90% of everyday in my room, only leaving to eat and bathroom and sometimes see friends or family, for years. Only thing that kept me from going insane was that I did actually have a GF and we hung out constantly, in my room though.

>>58584303
you don't need to be good programmer in order to make good money

you need to be good at copying others and not to be lazy and eventually you will succeed

yes I am talking about your own projects.

>>58585329
I just hate hearing "you don't like your job then go start your own business!" I mean really, just think about that phrase just for a minute. I wonder if for a second the person saying it realizes how unrealistic that is for 99% of the population.

"Go start a business," like I can just "go" and do that. Even if I were to have a great idea that would make for a good business (I don't), there is this barrier to entry for small business called capital. I don't have...lets say $50,000 to start a business and I highly doubt anyone else told to "go start your own business" does.

With all of that said, it isn't as though nobody starts their own businesses. Clearly people still do it. These people are often better-off financially than most though. Good for them. I love seeing the entrepreneurial spirit and I love seeing it succeed.

How do we fix this? Start with the kids. Teach them more than how to pass tests. Teach them about how to build credit, how to save money both for emergencies and for retirement, teach how to invest, teach how to critically think.

Sorry I've had a few.

>>58585200
Agreed. Company I work for has few apps in both stores but this is not our main business. Selling on Google Play is extremely hard... next to impossible actually. You're best off making freeware stuff for Android and monetize through ads. But that's peanuts. I don't know the exact numbers but the woman running the marketing for our company said that Android makes less than 1/100th of App Store.

People on App Store are willing to pay for good shit. So yeah, definitely make money on App Store.

>>58585396
>I don't have...lets say $50,000 to start a business and I highly doubt anyone else told to "go start your own business" does.
Well it's based on the assumption that you have a job that you don't like. If you want to start your own business you will obviously have to save up a lot of money at a job you don't like first. Also, when we're talking about software/computer companies you have virtually no capital investments. You only need enough money to survive until the company goes profitable (unlikely unless it's a very simple business model) or until it gets successful enough to gather venture capital (should be doable in a few months if you're ambitious and have a good business model). In this case, you would only need like $10,000-$20,000, and honestly, if you live in the west can't even muster up the ambition to save up 10 grand to start your own business, that's the reason you are incapable of starting your own business.

>>58584737

I know that feel.

>I'm too much of a coward to kill myself.
That resonates.

>>58585242

Some of us feel like that even without the comparing ourselves to successful people. I don't mind other people being successful, I'm not jealous. Maybe I'm envious.
What makes me sad is the realization that it's too late now to start a proper programming career. There are 15 year olds with more experience and useful skills out there. It take years to get to the point where you can live off it and I don't think many people can afford that.

>>58584841

If such a shitty "motivational picture" is enough to get you motivated, then you weren't unmotivated in the first place.

>>58585187
>Yes I was there I am screen caping this.
>Lets make weekly ProgramToMakeMoney threads. Will you or OP take care of this?
THIS! Somoene please start making a general for this. I'm fascinated by this and would love to start making money off APp Store. It's passive income and doesn't require much work once you've made the initial app.

>>58584738

> $20/day

I was considering iOS app development to get out of the shitty job I'm in right now, but that really doesn't sound worth it at all. Did you mean $20/hour?

>>58584624
Python is the shit for webdev. It's a glue language, and webdev is just glueing the database to HTTP.

>>58585630
No, he was making $20/day after a week in App Store with no marketing or promotion. He said was making $5K/month I believe and doing only few hours of work every day.

>>58585075
This perspective is self fulfilling.

>>58584303
>install gentoo

>>58585616
Done. I am doing this every Saturday and Wednesday.

>>58586176
I'll consider collaborating too anon's

>>58584303
>programming
>big money
You're like 15 years late m8. Coding jobs have all been outsourced to Malaysia, India and Indonesia

>>58584303
no programming is a dogshit job unless you have a certain passion for it, I just ended up working in a kitchen for 4 years and then left to join the air force where you get actually good money, good healthcare, good assistance so on so forth.

>>58584303
>trying to learn programming to get into big money
It's a meme, don't fall for it.

>>58584303
anyone else got an urge to impregnate her?

>>58585187
>>58584738
>>58585616
archive link anyone?

>>58585699

But $20/day x 30 days = $600.

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>>58584303
i am starting to think about it yeah

meaning i finished like 15% of the HTML test on codeacademy

Two years ago

>>58584303
It wasn't programming, but I had done nothing in my life until I was 30. Finally got the break I needed last year.

If you have the knack for programming and you know how to think outside the box, you can really go places. And there are a lot of programming jobs these days that are remote work. It's a really good skill to have.

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>>58584303
I'm in my mid-30's, already did the programming carreer shit and got completely sick and burned out on it.

>>58584303
I just wanna congratulate you on trying to learn. CS is a pretty easy field since the resources out their rock enough to balance out a lot of the difficulty

>>58584737
We are here for you anon

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>>58587339
just send me your money

i will motivate you

BY BEING HUNGRY

>>58585187
I make webapps, released the first one in early december and I'm making about $1 a day

>>58585118
Erna Solberg

>>58585630
> be neet
> read make $20 a day advice on /g/
> maek 3 apps
> make ~ 45$ a day, passive income
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>58584743
27 herr, going this route but instead of college I'm joining the Air Force. Employer's are easily impressed by military experience, I'm told.

>>58587314
who the H*CK is this semen demon?

>>58587554
link senpai?

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>>58584737
>husbands or dads.
At least you escaped the dangerzone where they burn magicians.

>>58587260
Are you trolling? $20 of passive income after a week of work. After another week with that same growth pattern he would be at $40 a day.

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>>58588191

here: >>58587535

>>58587332
>It wasn't programming
What was it then?

>>58585320

stop it. 3 years is most likely going to be about 3-4% of your entire lifespan. Just fucking use the rest of it and quit moping. It's like everyone thinks wasting a year ruins the rest of their lives. That's hardly true. If anything it makes you yearn for something more.

>>58589207
This isn't how it works. Three years is just a few percent of your life, but that is assuming that your ambition is the same as it was before those three years, which it won't be. Those three years will also represent a decline in your energy and ambition, and be a symbol of your failure. Every day after those three years will be a constant struggle to get back on schedule, but every day that passes will set you back even more, because you lost more than just time in those three years. You may start by trying to get back to where you "should be", but that goal will sink farther and farther until your goal is to put on pants, eat something other than doritos and masturbate less than 5 times that day. And before you know it, those three years have turned into four years, five years. Soon it will be a decade, and you will wonder where your youth went. You were supposed to accomplish something. What the hell happened? Well, the relief is that you by now only have a couple of decades left on this earth unless you decide to check out early.

>>58589461

tl;dr big fucking wall of text.

you're thinking too much go do something, anything that doesn't include a computer or screen of some kind. Even sitting outside is enough, just no fucking pixels.

>>58587535
>>58589126
Oh har har har.

Would still bang though.

>>58587260
lrn2english, Pablo. after that, lrn2sales.

>>58590119
She is a pretty witty politician.

Someone in parliament (a thin small guy) said something like "I am going to take Erna into the boxing ring on this" (which means that he will debate the issue)

and she just answered "You would not last, I am a completely different weight class than you"

>>58589985
>Even sitting outside is enough,
wrong

>>58584352
you'll probably be spending an equal amount of time if not more having to shill your own apps.

>>58584303
>tfw in late 20s and still haven't managed to find a job and start a career even though it has been years since graduating
>tfw haven't programmed or made an effort to learn since then
>tfw still don't believe i'm a complete failure
How do i break my delusion /g/? It appears there are still some irrational bits of hope within me. But i know that tiny hope doesn't mean anything since my life is a failure by all objective standards.

i'm about to turn 34 and I work a job that I could have gotten at 18

my biggest nightmare as a kid was having a real career and my biggest nightmare right now is not having one

oh well, at least I'm white and since I don't have kids or women in my life I can afford to upgrade my rig

>>58584303
I am 22 and just got my architecture degree, I could stay in my country and work on a more decent than not job for the next 20 years then retire but I honestly that's not who I am I love to read science and I freaking love physics and evolutionary biology and AI development and have a shitton of friends worldwide dont this kind of stuff but on my homeland we are like 40 years backwards and no one even grasps at the potential, I honestly want to do this too anon I want to learn how to program and then get myself into genetic algorithms and then neural modules and deep learning but I have no idea what could I do to start everything seems so bloated, I dream about moving to sillycon valley and starting a company that would specialize on providing architecture and industrial engineering solutions with the aid of both soft AI and genetic algorithms but where the fuck do I even start, I know people i guess but how do i teach myself all that I am lacking?

>>58584366
>PHP
>jQuery

Off yourself right now faggot.
Fuck you and die. Not even memeing

I went back to school for security when I was 30 and had to turn down job offers when graduating. I'd say I made the correct decision

>>58590899
PLEASE REPLY I NEED HELP I FEEL LIKE I AM WASTING MY LIFE

>>58590883
Sounds like you don't like programming. When you say "late 20s", I was 27-28 when I got my CompTIA A+, which is enough to repair computers. From there, if you're not a dickhole, and if you don't get a job that's too good for you like I did, you should be fine. You're definitely a better employee than some 19-year-old with an earring. Get that job, and then you're on the ladder. How fast you climb the ladder depends on lots of things (including pure luck), but if you keep at it and get a CCNA and shit, you can have a middling IT job when you're 31, just like someone who started at 21 but was shit then and took ten years to git gud. Bam, problem solved. It's that easy. And don't worry if you keep fucking up; you have all the time in the world. If you're 37 when you first become a network administrator or whatever, the world is full of people of that age who have that job. You'll be fine and normal. The first step is the hardest, but it's a step that people take every day.

>>58590899
A friend of mine is doing a PhD in robotics, having left school with no qualifications due to being rebellious and literally 2cool4skool. Look for a shit university that offers a PhD like that, and do it. All universities are basically the same anyway; if you get the PhD, you will be able to get a Silicon Valley job with all the cux and fags and then you can dye your hair green and live the dream :^)

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OP here... got banned for no reason at all... again...

anyway, I do definitely want to create apps, particularly games, but I'm focusing on Javascript right now cause I think web development would make for easier money than games development for now...

>>58586482

Why the fuck does that happen? Literally everything is fucked because of outsourcing and our jobs going elsewhere...

>>58584352
Post archive link please

>>58591232
Probably because you are trying to treat /g/ like a suicide hotline.

There is no way that her pants are comfortable.

>>58590995
You start by getting a PHD in computer science from a well respected college in the US, going to work for IBM on Watson and finding out how fucking hard the things you're describing are. If any person in this thread knew how to do what you're describing, alone, they would have done it already and have been awarded a Fields Medal.

What you're describing has a team of people working on it at IBM who are probably all smarter than everybody on this board, a team of people taking that technology and tuning it for engineering and architecture, a huge team of people around those teams to do the shitty grunt work that they don't want to do, and when their product went out and competed on Jeopardy it still couldn't figure out that Toronto isn't in the US. What the fuck do you think you're going to be able to do in that field as just one person?

>>58591307
I know it's hard anon I dont just fantasize on the ideas I try to dive into the concepts and have a round enough understanding, i know these things are complex and i don't plan on doing them alone or by myself all that I want is to master the subject enough to be able to start a group of dedicated people that would work for me but trust me at the same time, that's how enterprises are actually born; i dont want to say produce a strong A.I by feeding information to a soft A.I, i don't want neither to fully develop dual processing or anything like that, I just want to have a complex enough product and sell it.

For example i keep getting people telling me to learn Python because its a language easy to modify which is true but some others are telling me to learn Java because its kind of the industry's standard and on A.I development you gotta be monolithic so I dont even know where to start, also I think a lot of people on A.I development unaware of the plethora of knowledge studies in ethology, cladistics and theory of mind are giving us and that this has yet to be brought to A.I development at least that I know of, I have things I believe i can take into the table but I dont even have any idea of how to get a PhD from an US university.

>>58591433
>I feel like anime and video games forever ruined my expectations of life.

No, stupidity ruined them and continues to do so.
Anime and vidya are contemptible kiddy shit. Liking childish things kept you from being a man and now you are irrevocably trapped in depression. That doesn't bother you so stay that way.

what kind of job could you even get with a ccna? someone post a link to a job opening, since i don't believe you could even find one

>>58586499
Wise move. Stay twenty and never have to work again if you play it right, or get civilian version of your job in DoD, contracting etc.

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Who here is in their late 20's, learned programming when they are 15, and now has a comfy programming job, and living single has copious extra cash to spend on PVC waifus and the like?

>>58591222
this sounds like a good idea desu

>>58591232
>Literally everything is fucked because of outsourcing and our jobs going elsewhere...

This is why Trump won.

>>58591433
>Hero's journey pattern doesn't inspire you to want adventure and to make yourself great in the face of adversity

I don't understand - how do you not watch that shit and know that you have it in yourself to be great? All the cartoons I watched as a kid (some anime, some not) followed the hero's journey and it made me want to achieve great things, and to have people look up to me as a great man who has done those great things. It's not on a "world-wide" scale, but feeling needed on a team is awesome.

>>58591569
I started with C at the age of 15 upon /g/'s pressure, learned some webshit skills at 17, made myself a freelance career earning 3 times more than my cities average, thanks /g/

>>58591590

Trump won because he made a bunch of job promises to the rust belt that he will not be able to keep.

>>58591629
no bullshit this how i'm tryna be

can you pls elaborate on your story?

>>58591504

>Anime and vidya are contemptible kiddy shit. Liking childish things kept you from being a man and now you are irrevocably trapped in depression. That doesn't bother you so stay that way.

The problem is that the dude is depressed. You fix the depression, not deny him his coping mechanisms.

>>58591688
started with making meme tier pages in wordpress and html5 + css, then learned jquery and did some cool stuff to my page, then went onto PHP and made myself a RSS aggregator and shitposting board, from there applied to some freelancing sites like upwork, first done some tax calculator in javascript etc jobs for 20$-50$, then went on to 400$-500$ projects, and from there its learning more technologies and coding filling my fat ass with pizzas daily

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>>58591758
you're living my dream, except the part where you're an obese fatass... how does that feel to you???

I'm 30 years old and I'm enrolling in a 3 years university in my country as a programmer.

My family always wanted me to be a programmer but I didn't because I wanted to be a filmmaker (I failed) and my brother can get me a job in this field since he owns a small company.

I'm pretty dumb to be honest since I could have made more money from my 20s and finance my own films instead of wasting time....

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>>58589461
was six years for me before I managed to pull myself out

>>58591177
>Sounds like you don't like programming.
rude

>>58585396
>how unrealistic that is for 99% of the population.
That's because 99% of the population is risk averse and/or lazy

>Dad is Developer for some bank
>Teaches me programming when I was 13
>Play around making some bullshit programs for a few years
>Start computer science at 18
>First year is a joke
>Finish CS
>90k job before I'm 25

Privilege is a bitch aint it?

>>58593693
disgusting edit

>>58591496
You're just a dreamer. Start learning.

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Bumpy

you still have to talk to people even if you're a programmer ya tard.

>>58591307
OK let me ask you something. This is important.
You have to agree to
>All of us including the scientist you mentioned are in endeavour of doing something great "individually".
Lets take you and me
>What are the odds that I would withhold some information something I found is very precious like finding a loophole in WATSON or set of rules to make it godlike.

What are the odds that individual people/employee don't give 100% of their effort to company but rather improve their own knowledge base and skill.


I know if company ask for me to deliver something I have to do it. But company cannot ask illegal/non-ethical stuffs from us. Example company can ask me to teach Russian language to WATSON (and this will be publicly known) and surely I would give 100% effort. But what if company ask me to teach WATSON to intercept signals in Russian land in the hope to intercept military information(not publicly known). Do you think employee would give same 100% effort or they will postpone/delay/ or not give 100% effort and withhold some precious information?

>>58587179
Also tell me how to archive this?

>>58597022
archive.is

>>58584738
How do you make profit? Ads or paid apps?

22, gave myself the same ultimatum. A year of intense self study and now i make 30 an hour. Im a drop out aswell lmao

>>58598779
You just do freelance gigs or? To you guys who self promote/work without degrees where do you go to post shit and get potential projects from people?

>>58584737
>>58585574
>>58586499
>>58587332
>>58587339
>>58590883
>>58590895
>>58590899
>>58591496
>>58592514
You are all pathetic as fuck. Anyone with more than one (you) in this list should just commit suicide right now.

I self studied web dev and now I have an (unpaid) internship, 40 hours per week, for 4 months. Before this I was a college dropout and a NEET.

I would rather be a wagecuck than a freelancer, because I'm autistic and I just want to program, not deal with clients and network around for new projects.

>>58596968
>surely I would give 100% effort

You must be a manager. The best I did was around 50% of effort, but usually I'm giving 15-20% and fuck around on the internet in the rest of the time.

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>>58589107
I can write my own OS and this still feels true. What rustles me is that some bitch does a coding boot camp and makes bank because she has a vag living on easy street, and I get to rot.

>>58600703
She has marketable skills, web development.

>>58600757
>implying

I can do web development. Shit's not rocket science.

>>58600871
go get a job then fuck ya

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>>58600913
Because you get jobs by knowing people or being a diversity hire. Plus I'd have to relocate to be around where the jobs are, and since I'm an unemployable fucknugget, I can't afford to do that.

>>58584303
Well I'm sort of in that position.
27, done nothing with my life, except I did go to university. BSc in CS and currently pursuing an MSc in CS (well, a somewhat specific track focusing on game and media technology). 4.0 GPA and just an 8-month research project left now.
Despite that I still feel empty, useless and retarded.

And that's all for my blog today.

>>58600940
All of those can be overcome if your skills are as good as you reckon they are.

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>>58600980
"So you've been a NEET for the past decade", they CEO of Google say in our 1 on 1 interview. "Well pay to ship you to California, even though you're resume struggles to fill a page. Fuck all these other applicants with experience and degrees. We like risky hires. Hell, as soon as you're here I'll let you fuck my wife and daughter!" And then a stream 2D anime girls that lactate champagne and shit caviar will flow out of the computer monitor. "OH MY GOD, ANIME IS REAL", I scream as a I cream my pants.

And then I wake up to reality.

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>>58584352
it sounds like you were working independently?
there are plenty of companies hiring web developers. they will take care of finding customers while you will have a comfy code monkey job.

>>58601091
>applying to google, ever
>not lying about your decade of masturbating and shitposting

the deck's already stacked against you, don't make it harder for yourself. at least freelance or something. show you've got some marketable skills.

>>58601142
>>applying to google, ever
I actually would not apply to google. It's just hard to get a job there.

>>not lying about your decade of masturbating and shitposting

I'm a terrible liar. I really just don't have it in me to make up shit.

>>58601142

Not that guy but what/how would you explain a decade of doing nothing without looking like an unemployable weirdo? honest question

>>58590927
PHP has been a language that I was asked in an Interview if I knew. In fact out of all the languages I said PHP was a language I never used.
The guy even said that if I am willing to learn it I would get a job link websites to secure databases.

I would hate to say it but just because you went to uni or self-taught yourself programming that does not mean you are at all in the real-world with what languages are paying and hiring for.

Web development always has some aspect for PHP.

>Kill yourself
>not meming?

Are you fucking kidding me...
Fuck off to a job interview and stop being unemployed.

>>58601176
at this point you've either gotta make it up or hope someone takes a giant leap of faith

>>58601214
don't say it was a decade of doing nothing - say you worked a few years at a small business that has since folded, or say you freelanced for a while with projects to back it up. then you travelled for a couple years on the money you saved, say you were "finding yourself" or whatever else. now you're back and ready to re-enter the workforce.

it's not flawless by any means but most companies don't have the time, resources, or inclination to thoroughly investigate every claim that passes their desk. it's just about getting past the initial hurdle of getting instantly ruled out for doing 4/5ths of fuck all for a significant period of time

>>58601214
That is just it.

Having a gap in employment is very hard to fix.

If you're programming your own applications then you could say
>I have been involved in this project that I made open source.
>The software took x amount of time and has x amount of features
>Find it here www.pornhub.com

Achievements on your resume should resemble your gap. I did this and have since then displayed my 1 year development gap. Showing a programming working and having somewhat complex features makes it look good.

I made my program open source and grouped in with other blokes who helped pull the networking frame work on the chat.
If you're a full stack developer than showing your user-design layouts could also mean you took it serious.

>>58589461
OR, you could be a very successful person, get cancer or have a car accident, become a cripple, go to jail for unrelated shit, or something

life isn't linear, there is a lot of shit going out there. pic @ >>58584841 is the truth (without the clock shit, though. that kinda implies we are predestined)

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>>58595807
Couple weeks into calculus 1 now, doing well, already past the chain rule and beyond. Quotient rule was a joke. Product rule remains my specialty.
I ask my professor his thoughts on quantum mechanics and partial derivatives. He's impressed i know about the subject. We converse after class for some time, sharing mathematical insights; i can keep up. He tells me of great things ahead like series and laplacians. I tell him i already read about series on wikipedia. He is yet again impressed at my enthusiasm. What a joy it is to have your professor visibly brighten when he learns of your talents.
And now I sit here wondering what it must be like to be a brainlet, unable to engage your professor as an intellectual peer.
All of the deep conversations you people must miss out on because you aren't able to overcome the intellectual IQ barrier that stands in the way of your academic success... it's so sad.
My professor and I know each other on first name basis now, but i call him Dr. out of respect.
And yet here you brainlets sit, probably havent even made eye contact with yours out of fear that they will gauge your brainlet IQ levels.
A true shame, but just know it is because i was born special that i am special. I can't help being a genius, nor can my professor.
Two of a kind is two flocks in a bush.

>>58601651
You think you're a genius because yuo can do the product rule? hahahaha

>>58601276

>don't say it was a decade of doing nothing - say you worked a few years at a small business that has since folded

Tried that, they could see through tax info that I hadn't had a job in that time so on top of all I looked like a liar too

>say you freelanced for a while with projects to back it up

That could work as long as they don't start looking into commits and see everything is recent and not from those years

>then you travelled for a couple years on the money you saved, say you were "finding yourself" or whatever else.

People who usually do that have a big digital footprint about their travels and shit, I doubt they'll buy it

>it's not flawless by any means but most companies don't have the time, resources, or inclination to thoroughly investigate every claim that passes their desk

I know, problem is when you make it through the initial group are this close to getting selected and then they start digging on your info

That or the possibility they dig after hiring you, so I would have to go to work every day fearing they might find out

>>58601289

>I did this and have since then displayed my 1 year development gap.

1 year is nothing though, I wouldn't even bother hiding it


Anyway, how do you guys think having worked at a startup or done one by yourself and getting funded looks like on a CV? does it scream "overqualified"?

check out the web dev general we have here (more often than not), plenty of resources and people trying to help each other out.

>>58602210
Say that you've recently learned versioning systems because you thought it would make you more employable.

>>58601880
Lurk moar ...

>>58601651
Is this pasta?

>>58585315
>>58584303
W-who is this jizz whiz?

>>58604616
my future wife and mother of my 4 children

>>58601651

ME here. If you think you're hot shit because you can do the beginning part of Calc 1 you're in for some real shit when you actually get into math. Wait for physics, calc 2 and 3, DE can be a bitch as well. Then you get into your core classes. Just wait.

>>58591629
i just moved to r9k

>>58584737
join us, wizard

>>58601214
If you get a shit job, and then change "Employment History" to "Recent Employment History", you can imply that you have had many shit jobs in the past. It still won't be perfect (that's what I've done, and I'm pretty unemployable myself), but if you lie about the dates as well (worked from January 2015 to October 2015? Put it down as "2014-2016" and don't mention months), you'd be amazed how much you can cover up.

>>58598705
>Ads or paid apps?
ads = peanuts
paid = real money

no one got rich off ad-supported apps on Android. people don't click, they block ads and CTR itself is horrible. CPM is is lower than spam/porn site rates.

only way to make money is paid apps in app store.

>>58587502
Hey it's something. Good for you anon

>>58604253

Please elaborate, why would that make a difference?

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>>58584303

Es5, Es6, data structures, asynchronous processing, webpack, rollup, gulp, grunt, MVC architecture, component based architecture. angularjs, reactjs, vuejs, caching, mongodb, mysql,

>>58592428
i`d eat that ass for hours, also
>count step every make

>>58602210
You are such a negative person you wont go anywhere in life.

There's no point in giving you advice if you have already given up, might as well off yourself.

>>58584303
who damnit

>>58595526
>risk averse

people take dumb risks all the time, this certainly isn't true. lazy i can generally agree with though

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>Zombie apocalypse movie/TV show
>Nobody dies of cancer

>>58584743
Bro infosec is like theeast picky. Just gotta be able to prove it. Go to canyouhack.us

I'm 24 and I am constantly discouraged that people younger than me not only know better but also have more experience and connections. It scares the hell out of me but I try to keep it out of my mind and study/practice/contribute more. I feel like by the time I'm actually useful though I'll be too old to be considered compared to younger people coming out of school. The other thing is training, I'd love an apprenticeship but I think I'm too old for any of that.

> I'm too socially retarded to get along with other people, so some computer gig is going to have to be my route to success..

we don't want you, fuck off.

I've had enough colleagues that orate poorly and can't into talking to their co-workers to sink a battleship.

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>>58584303
>the "CS doesn't require social skills" meme

Sorry, friend. It isn't true. You won't get a job unless you've heavily networked. Unless you have friends inside, any potential position will probably just go to some pic related

>>58608287

Nigger where did I say I'm giving up? I'm being fucking realistic, have ever been to a job interview faggot?

>>58611566

Fucking this, maybe it used to be a place for the socially inept a long time ago but these days you got total retards as project leader because they know someone higher up who gave them the job

Welcome to nepotism

>>58584841
>A guy is doing nothing
>Don't worry, things will get better no matter what
>He believes this and suicides a few years later

haha

It's funny I tried for years to get ahead in life and get a good job ect

It just never worked for me I always had some ass trying to screw me over

I'm 27 this year and I feel like I'm running out of options

I feel shit that all my older classmates are in a better position than me

But what can i do?

I'm in a 50hr week with some shot company that I hate but I need to pay the bills it feels like I'm trapped with no way out Ive consider suicide a few times

Each time I get a little closer.

I'm in my early 30s and pretty much at the just off myself stage. good luck anon, hope you make it

>>58589107
sam really nailed it with this one desu

>>58612341
I feel it. Sometimes I feel like I have the work ethic needed to achieve anything, but there's not enough hours in the day to achieve it in a reasonable amount.

>>58612467
it seems like you need cheats, aka drugs, to keep up.

or some rock solid discipline which is much harder to get.

>>58584737
I spend this weekend learning to write a parser. To be specific the math expression evaluator. Making the unary minus work was a pain in the ass, I'm 23, not in college, being a failure with a crappy programming job, not going anywhere, without friends either.

I think about what can I do to make my life worth, not sure if getting in college again would do as I know that won't fix the issues in my behavior causing me to fail in having a normal and enjoyable life. Had fake happiness one, but in my case I need to achieve something worth in my life to be happy, raise a company or a product. But having kids and wife never cross my mind.

Do what you can, work hard, in the end you will feel better if you tried, even if you don't achieve what you want. Challenge yourself.

Go back to /pol/ you delinquent.

>>58585574
>What makes me sad is the realization that it's too late now to start a proper programming career.
At 30? Not from what I've heard. People switch careers in their lives, so someone deciding to be a programmer after the age of 30 or over that is not uncommon.
An old college teacher of mine became a developer after he was 30, after he had graduated with a Philosophy degree and couldn't find work in that field.

I'm 30 and quit my job to go back to school and learn comp science. I think it's kind of normal for a lot of people to have a bit of an identity crisis at my age.

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>>58611566
You better be bullshitting me anon. I've got nothing else.

I fucking hate foreigners sometimes... I hope Trump kills all outsourcing... it makes finding freelance jobs such a pain in the ass because pajeet is always undercharging for everything...

Just fucking nationalize everything. It just makes perfect sense that American companies hire American workers...

I'll admit I do want a job but I also am interested in learning since people seem to be able to make useful/cool out of basically nothing. I feel like I'm too dumb to learn and have no motivation. I'd need something easy and structured to learn until I can keep a good routine

>>58614240
>I fucking hate foreigners

Perhaps computer science isn't the career path for you then; you have to be able to work on a team, with people of many different backgrounds.

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>>58584737
>I can't bare living as a friendless, wageslave any more. But I can't fathom the idea that wealth will somehow enrich my empty life because no amount of money will make up for losing a decade of life experience.
Those are some heavy feels anon, my exact thoughts too. Bad news first: you're broken, it's literally too late now. Good news: you can always quit.

>>58584303
hey op i was just like you described like a year ago. same goals, now im quite experienced also in javascript but i lack motivation and would really like someone to talk with.im working on some cool projects maybe you would like them and who knows we might feel less shitty together. if you want leave a contact here and ill reach out.

>>58614240
No, all my programmer friends can't get a job worth shit or when they do they're worked like slaves and want to kill themselves.

Should've went into hardware man.

>programming
>big money

Haha, good luck! Programmers' salaries are shit, especially considering the hours you're going to spend at your desk.

>>58584737
Brah, you're depressed. Get some drugs, start feeling better in 4 weeks. Don't let anyone on this board tell you differently. Your low motivation is a classic symptom and the antidepressants should fix that.

Some other things.

1. Antidepressants has side effects. However they are 30+ drugs on the market so keep trying till you find one that works for you. Take it at night and you can minimize light nausea etc for the first week as you ramp up.
2. Someone will tell you exercise is all you need. Which is nice, because they're not depressed.
3. You'll be on it for a minimum of a year before you can come off. Don't come off before then.
4. Finding out you've wasted alot of your life when you could have solved this sooner is... depressing. Trust me, I've been there. Don't dwell on it, consider it the start of a new life.

PS. 10% of Americans are on antidepressants at anyone time. It is the world's most common mental illness.

>>58612665
>after he had graduated with a Philosophy degree and couldn't find work in that field.

>actually expecting a job at all

Who takes until their 30s to get a degree on a meme field like that?

>>58589107

Whats really funny is how the bar is only getting lower. Like I was learning DOS commands before I knew how to read because that was the only way to play games since we only had a PC and no consoles in my house at the time

But kids now? their fucking genX parents praise them for knowing how to install shit off the app store. They think their broken condom consequences are fucking geniuses when I have to see them every day freaking out on normie tech support forums over the simplest shit imaginable, like the youtube app not loading on their shitty malware infested phones

>>58615488
>Finding out you've wasted alot of your life when you could have solved this sooner is... depressing. Trust me, I've been there. Don't dwell on it, consider it the start of a new life.

Fucking this, is pointless to think of the past because you can't do shit about it

>inb4 well duh!

Then why you keep doing it dumbass?

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>>58614451
>Good news: you can always quit.
I am too much of a coward to kill myself. I often hope I just fall asleep and not wake up. not die, just sleep a while and wake up in a new world, escapism for a coward.

>>58612608
>>Do what you can, work hard, in the end you will feel better if you tried, even if you don't achieve what you want. Challenge yourself.
thanks for the encouraging words. but sometimes I don't know why I do the things I do. e.g I periodically get a spurts of motivation so I find all the books, study materials, guides, links websites etc and I put it into a neat little pile - then I let it sit there and go back to shitposting and or whatever until the next time something triggers me to do the same, and so on. I also find it extremely difficult to move onto the new things without finishing old tasks, like after collecting all kinds of math/cs/programming related shit for so many years I have to sort them out before I can move on and actually study them - or that is what I tell myself. Which will never happen because I keep adding to it. And even though I know rationally I need to move on regardless, I habitually and emotionally full back into the same old behavioural patterns. As you can see I have all kinds of autism.

>>58615488
>Don't dwell on it, consider it the start of a new life.
sometimes I want to just start a new life. but it would be just like my old (present) life - unknown, unattached, exactly like if I were to start anew in a foreign place, no marketable skills - alone and destitute.

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>>58616513
Are you me anon?

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>>58611449
I'm doing an internship at a small webdev company. Most people here are 25-30.

>>58584303
I got into it right after high school but Im too much of a lazy shit sack to work on it as often as I should. Basically I made some generic shitty game just for android to test out app store optimization and its made me $120 just from banner ads. The thing is the game only has around 8000 installs and its complete shit. So just imagine how much I could make if I wasnt a lazy piece of shit and made something worth peoples time.

>>58616513
discipline, get some or keep failing

>>58589461
Symbols of your failure and decline in energy and ambition are things, that solely exist in your brain, which doesnt mean, that this is easy to overcome. But it means, that is up to you to change something.
You basically know what to do. Find a goal, consider which steps has to be taken to reach it and then do it.
Maybe in ten years you look back to your greatest success or you miserably failed, but then at least you tried and you found a purpose

>>58591496
There is an Stanford MOOC called Statistical Learning, which covers the basic idea of
http://cs231n.github.io/
This is an Stanford Course about neural networks. There is also one about machine learning in general.
Since this things require a strong background in mathematics and statistics you should probably start there (I'm physicist and my humble mathematical knowledge is sufficient for must of this).
>For example i keep getting people telling me to learn Python
Seems legit. CS231n uses NumPy for example
> Java
Probably no good idea. the big machine learning frameworks, like Caffe and Tensorflow, use Pyhton or C++ apis
So probably you should:
- Learn maths
- Learn Python or C++
- Learn Machine/Statistical Learning
- Learn something about neural networks

>>58621479
First line: *machine learning

Her pendants pretty nice

>>58616513
>I periodically get a spurts of motivation so I find all the books, study materials, guides, links websites etc and I put it into a neat little pile - then I let it sit there and go back to shitposting and or whatever until the next time something triggers me to do the same, and so on.
You are literally me. I get excited on the idea of what I could achieve in my life to the point that I'm like drunk on it and then I just lose energy and go back to whatever I was doing before; telling myself that I still have time. It's really difficult to break that cycle. You need other people to motivate you and I hate dealing with other people so I'll just keep being miserable for the rest of my life.

>>58621687
Yep, that's also me.
Maybe it's a cliche but I started to write a list in my phone before I go to sleep with three things, that I want to accomplish the next day (read xx pages in this book, watch this video, etc)
It helps a bit

26 here, been a neet for a few years, getting my shit together lately and even decided to go back to school for CS.
I'd be stoked to make even minimum wage coding. I'm interested in databases and security, any advice?

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28 year old kissless forever alone reporting in.

Based on my advanced age and crippling social phobia what Programming language would be best for me to learn that would get me a modest income and allow me to avoid interacting with other human beings as much as possible?

>>58624561
Ah ha ha ha

>>58620924

How you got 8000 installs out of nowhere like that?

>>58624526
If you can make web apps, you never need to go outside ever again. So, erm, Java, maybe?

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>>58584737
Life isn't a race bro, I'm sure the Chad at your school was outdone in losing his virginity by some nobody.

>>58586626
Yea I would like to be the father of her Children.

>>58584841
Can't hurt to have a little dose of blind optimism, /g/entlemen.

Why is this /r9k/-tier thread still alive?

>>58626793

Guess most of /g/ are losers

There was a startup thread and not even one anon wrote on it

>>58585493
This is 100% correct.

>>58614240
He won't, he only said that shit to get your vote.
When will people learn already?

>>58586176
i am interested in getting into app development so i will definitely be in those threads!

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>>58627044
You fell for the Trump lied memes.... sad!

How butt blasted are you going to be when that wall comes up, those jobs are back, and you're sent back to Mexico?

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>>58625200
It was over a long period of time, but some dude said don't come up with something original copy someone instead. It wasnt a minecraft ripoff but I just had the words mine and craft around it so im guessing thats how people found it.

>>58625200
>>58627611
The game was mostly just a test keywords and shit like that and It sort of worked.

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>>58585075
>>58584737
>I can't muster the motivation to do something about my shit life.
>When I stalk the facebook of people I use to know they are all successful engineers, well travelled, husbands or dads.
>No matter what I do now I can't catch up, my life is fucked forever. I can't bare living as a friendless, wageslave any more. But I can't fathom the idea that wealth will somehow enrich my empty life because no amount of money will make up for losing a decade of life experience.
Picture related.

>>58584303
The real skills are not specific to any particular language. Learn logic (literally; there are college textbooks on TPB). Learn control structures. Make sure you feel comfortable switching between any language with c-style syntax (most of them)

No.
Also if it's not an actual passion or interest, but rather a way to make money you are falling for memes.
I recommend actuarial sciences or even just straight up math. Also trades.

I mean shit, my degree is in econ amd I had a better time finding a decent job than my CS friends kek.

>>58614240
>people with same skillset as me work for 10cents an hour.
IT'S NOT ME THAT'S WORTHLESS IT'S THE EMPLOYERS FAULT FOR PAYING MARKET PRICE. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF ME LIKE MY PARENTS DID I'M ENTITLED.
god i hate millennials.
Maybe get a skill poo in loos can't get?

>>58585616
If the app enjoys success there might be lots of "scaling up" work to be done, but still, at this point if you're making enough money you can hire more people or whatever. I guess.

>>58586482
But they're coming back to America thanks to Trump lel

>>58587340
>CS is a pretty easy field
>equating computer science difficulty with shitty code monkey jobs and online introductory programming courses

>>58585187
I am into this, lets get rich

>>58585616
>It's passive income and doesn't require much work once you've made the initial app.

Not necessarily. You still have to get people to buy and even find out about your app once you've made it. Then theres the tons of indians that will try to copy it but just make something with good quality because indians cant do good quality.

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>>58628326
or maybe employers should stop hiring pajeets from across the globe and instead hire their own countrymen?

>>58584738
You don't even have to improve. You can just re skin something to make it more interesting. I read this article a long time ago and thats basically what this person did and they made $10,000 in just 2 months.

https://www.gamegorillaz.com/blog/case-study-how-i-made-10000-in-2-months-with-a-simple-one-touch-mobile-game/

>>58629090
"Employers" have a fiduciary duty to the stockholders of their company to make the best financial decisions they can in order to maximize shareholder wealth. You need to show them that they can maximize wealth by hiring you instead of 20 Pajeets.

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>>58629111
no, they have a fiduciary duty to their country...

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>>58627830
Any example books?

I kinda was in that position like OP and I was depressed as fuck. Then the guy I gave my notes to a couple of times in college got me an interview. Been working there for 4 months now, sometimes I hate the people there and my tasks suck but the money is good. There's no fucking way to be happy in life for people like me.