/spg/ - SmartPhone General

>>58542390
does anyone actually have the phone in OP's picture?

if so how good is it?

camera?
DAC?
lagginess?

>>58542440
I'm running the pro version, pretty much same SoC but more RAM and better camera and stuff.

There is absolutely no lag at all.

>>58542542
The normal version is going for under $200, so I was considering it.

How much more is the pro version?

>>58542580
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-zuk-z2-pro4gb-64gb

>>58542580
Pro version isn't as value as the regular. iirc it's almost twice as expensive.

Main differences I could tell online are:
>AMOLED screen in pro
>metal bumper on pro
>more ram and storage in pro
>faster storage and usb 3.1 in pro
>better camera in pro
>slightly bigger screen and smaller battery in pro
>rollcage (shock absorber in pro)
>health and fitness gimmicks in pro

But the regular is still giving you a flagship phone with cut down screen and camera so it's the best value SD820 phone on the market right now.

I paid 480 aud for mine while the regular zuk is around 260 aud.

tfw no iPhone SE hardware with Android

Does anyone still make reasonably sized phones that aren't shit?

>>58542580
>>58542628
>they both can't record 4k but my note 3 can
wtf is this
$100-$200 more than whatever the regular version is being sold at

Pro version has f1.8 aperture,
Regular has f2.2 aperture,

Pro version has 6GB RAM
Regular version has 4GB RAM

Pro version has 5.2 inches SAMOLED
Regular version has 5.0 inches LTPS IPS

Pro version has 3100mAh battery
Regular version has 3500mAh battery

Pro version has 3.1 USB-C
Regular version has 2.0 USB-C

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>>58542641
They can both record 4k though?
I should know, I'm using one.

>>58542651
oh shit my bad I thought 2160p meant 1440p for some reason idk

>>58542635
Sony's X and Z compact series. Almost everything else under 5" has very low-end specs. Low end as in "don't buy this crap" not "budget".

>>58542670
I wish it could record 1440p to be honest.

I have a 1440p monitor but nothing 4k to watch 4k videos on, so I feel like it's just a waste of space.

>>58542694
>records 4k but not 1440p
what? I think open camera has very detailed camera options

>>58542641
>pro has less battery

Huh

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>>58542628
you made a mistake. cukz2 has almost no rom devs, zero post on xda dev forum.

pajeet and vlad seem to have bandwagoned the mi5. very active devs and rom community.

bought one for 320 dijiridoos this morning, couldn't help it. was originally going to buy a 32gb mi5s for 370 but no dev community just like the cukz2.

>>58542684
>Sony's X and Z compact series.
Maybe those aren't exactly shit, but still not on the iPhone SE level in terms of hardware.

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will an s6 edge still do me as well as a Mi5 or will I be missing out? I don't really give a fuck about games. How's yours holding up anon?

>>58542703
I tried Open camera, a lot of camera options like HDR are missing on my phone. It's not really an issue since I've got 128GB storage, Just my personal autism.

It's a shame, I don't think I've seen any phone that can do 1440p video recording yet, most are 1080p60fps or 4k30fps.

>>58542723
Why would you need a custom rom? Is MIUI really that bad?

Maybe you should have invested in a device that ships with better software like the zuk? Really liking zui so far, it's a nice change from the stock android on my Nexus 5.

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>buy zuk z2 because its the new /g/'s memephone
>1 week later and it is still out of stock

Should I just get the refund?

>>58542684
Sorry, meant under 4.5". In the 4.6" to 4.9" there's some serviceable stuff released this year with at least 1.5GB of RAM like the Galaxy A3 and maybe some midrangers from 2015 but under that size you're starting to compromise basic funcionality if you want something beyond a whatsapp machine, as you'll be most likely stuck with 1GB of RAM, very small storage and no 4G connectivity.

>>58542795
How much does it cost on Aliexpress?

>>58542723
also, its probably going to break. Chink phones wow you with the specs but behind the screen its all bullshit

>cuk z2 has no SD card slot
if only..

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>>58542807
>claims chinkphones break easily because of shit build quality
>proceeds to shill the mi5

>>58542827
I've seen the bend test mato

>>58542804
It's like $30 more expensive

>>58542757
The X compact has a SD650 which is roughly equivalent to the 801 to 808 series (2014 flagships) performance-wise and 3GB of RAM. It's the highest end Android you can find under 5", period.

>>58542723
>>58542807
>>58542789
Hello Xiaomi shill.

It has plenty of roms you dufus.

http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/custom-z2plus-rom-releases.16/

http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/custom-z2pro-rom-releases.15/

>>58542390
Sweet jesus! New rumor says the new Nokia flagship will cost $800!

http://www.gizmochina.com/2017/01/17/nokia-p1-snapdragon-835-sharp-igzo-display-rumored-coming-mwc/

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>>58542858
Why did you tag me as a Xiaomi shill? I own a bloody z2 pro.

Stock rom is really nice, there's no need to flash a custom rom unless you need vanilla android.

>>58542851
IDC about CPUs and RAM, my shitty old 2013 phone is fast enough. I care about size/weight/ergonomics/build quality/camera/heat managament... the Sony compacts don't excell at that.

>>58542915
Well, Sony is a guarantee for good camera and heat management in the XC is ace because they're no longer shoving a 8xx series Snapdragon in there, while the 650 doesn't overheat at all. It's also polycarbonate instead of glass so you get something infinitely more durable.

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>>58542789
>>Why would you need a custom rom? Is MIUI really that bad?

because it's the only way you will be able to get updates. bar nexus, moto and 1+ phones, you can't rely on any other company to keep support. other reason is because it's fun to try new roms.

miui isn't bad either, good optimisation for the most part, it just can't compete with most custom launchers or cm theme engine.

>>58542987
Idk anon, z1, z2, and z2 pro are getting Nougat in roughly one week.

A lot of companies still have their phones on Marshmallow, or Lollipop (I'm looking at you ZTE).

so, shilling aside, has anyone notice any problems with their zuks? it seems like a good deal but this qc talk has got me worried

>>58543052
Want me to go over things I don't like about my z2 pro for you?

>>58543064
please do, also how is it for headphone audio?

I could buy the Zuk Z2 even with the average 400 nits display and the very average DAC but the average camera really gets me. I'm thinking of the K6000 Pro instead because of the better camera.

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>>58543126
>k6000 pro
>better camera
Fuck off.

Also tell us which DAC the zuk uses. Please. I'd very much like to know.

Does anyone here have experience with UMI phones? They look very nice

>>58543076
Not sure about headphone audio, I use Bluetooth earphones for mine. I've tried my Sony headphones a few times (mdr-zx310) and it sounds pretty standard compared to my Nexus 5, but I'm no audiophile.

Okay, things I don't like.

when the device gets hot, like when charging + downloading something, the front and back glass don't get very warm but the metal bumper gets very hot. This doesn't happen very often though since it requires the battery to be charging, wifi to be downloading a large file, and cpu under load.

In zui, the battery graph and ram usage are in developer options for God knows what reason.

Phone supports qc3.0 but I didn't get a qc3.0 wall adapter with mine.


And that's all I can think off of the top of my head right now.

The glass on the back is really grippy so it's not going to slip from your hand even when almost vertical so it's great using it around the house with no case on.

>>58543126
Are you high?

>>58543216
not too bad then, why are there so few reviews for this phone?

>>58543216
Thanks for the info anon. I could live with those issues. Seems the only really glaring thing is the camera. But it can't be worse than the ZTE Axon 7, right?

Where do you guys think is the best place to buy the Z2 from?

>>58543216
why are people stuck on xiaomi if this is so much better though

"zukz2500"

Cupoum 7% off on zuk z2 banggood

Order the black one, because the white one is out of stock

>>58543375
I got my z2 pro from Aliexpress.

>>58543291
Because the non pro model is more popular for the value it offers, I think. You can't really beat a Snapdragon 820 with 4GB ram, type c, 64GB storage, and a 5" screen for only $180.

>>58543448
Idk anon. I'm not saying this is better than xiaomi or that Xiaomi sucks, I'm just saying that I'm a happy Zuk Z2 pro user. I'm sure there's lots of people happy with their Xiaomi devices too. Also don't forget that Xiaomi is much more established than Zuk.

>>58543448
Because, even if it's shilled to hell and back, Xiaomi at least has a proven track record, releases quality products for their price, support their phones with updates and at the very least you'll get ROMs from Xiaomi.eu while ZUK is only popular since a bunch of shills invaded this board and so far the only reviews I've seen that didn't read like an infocomercial slam it for a extremely poor software OOTB

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>>58543597
>extremely poor software
That's odd.
Which version of zui were they running?
In what way was the software bad according to the review?

I'm on 2.3.044 and everything works perfectly.

>>58543597
Your do realise that zuk has its own equivalent to Xiaomi.eu, right?

It's not like there's a shortage of roms to try out on a zuk z2...

http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/custom-z2plus-rom-releases.16/

http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/official-z2plus-zui-rom-releases.14/

>>58543614
You have the answer in the security patch level you're still running :^)

Also, the general fuckery of ZUI with AOSP to make it look like iOS breaking all kind of stuff

>>58543192
I have an UMi eMax, a rebranded TCL M2M but with a different camera. UMi support is non existent. They drop the phone once there is a new one. They break promises and are good at shilling like Elephone. There's a saying before in gizchina, another day another UMi ad.

>>58543712
What security patch is the latest miui on?

Also I hope you realise they'll be updated to the latest security patch with the Nougat update that's already available to some via OTA.

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>>58543712
>breaking all kinds of stuff
Anon. I'm waiting here with a Z2 pro in my hand.
Waiting for you to tell me what's buggy and broken in ZUI so I can test and verify it for the rest of /spg/.

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Wich phone should i buy? They all have 4g support were i live and they all have europe roms available, but im having trouble deciding.

Or are there any other phones i should look into? Pricerange around 200$

>>58543818
*redmi note 3 pro

>>58543785
>>58543712
Bumping for this.
Anon has his Z2 pro on hand, tell him what's broken so he can test it before I buy my Z2 pro. If you don't reply then nothing's broken and it's good for me to buy the z2.

>>58543597
the software part is fixable, a tinfoil frame isn't and that's all I'm concerned about

>>58543835
People say the same stupid shot about OxygenOS.
:3
There is no support, the support is broken.

>>58543785
hold it above your head, press your thumbs in the centre of the screen and pull down on both sides

if it still works I'll buy it

>>58543818
Redmi note 3 pro Is The best value of the 3, but since your budget is under 200 I'd say get the zuk z2 since its the best phone within your budget.

>>58543841
Wait for >>58543712 to mention issues with the software for >>58543785 to test. I'm beginning to think that the only issue here is trolls...

>>58543860
Done.
Posting from my z2 pro right now :^)
(you never specified how much pressure to apply)

>>58543751
MIUI official Dev ROMs (updated weekly, perfectly stable) are always on the latest patch.

Is 32 gb storage enough on an android phone?

any thoughts on letv max 2?

Currently using a Sony Ericcson X10 mini, only ever used it for calls/text messages. I'm looking to get a new phone that can be used to browse the internet and has a good camera. Budget is around 400 euros. I've been thinking about the iPhone SE, is that a bad choice?

>>58543944
Yep, unless you decide you MUST bring all your emulators, music and chinese cartoons with you all the time it's more than enough.

>>58543897
Nice proof faggot.

>>58543944
Not today. Just Android 7.0 is 14 Gb

>>58543985
iOS is limited to Safari, which doesn't even support WebM or extensions.

>>58542651
>1.3 Gigapixels
>800 Megapixels
Somehow I doubt there's even a sensor with such a high resolution in existance, let alone one so small. Chinks gonna chink.

>>58543985
Screen size? Any must-have feature? I guess your best starting point is the gsmarena phone finder. Put the following filters:

- Year: 2016
- OS: Android
- OS version: check 6.0 and upwards
- RAM: minimum 2GB (to browse internet confortably)

And then start cross-checking the results with stuff locally available at your country. At your budget level it's complicated to go wrong. Take also into account the iPhone SE is absolutely anemic at 16GB internal storage, and comically small at this point, especially to type confortably.

>>58543985
You might find internet browsing more comfortable on a larger screen but other than that it's a great phone.

>>58544078
This is false. There's plenty of third party browsers available such as chrome and opera

>>58544098
>There's plenty of third party browsers available such as chrome and opera
Those are all Safari with a different skin/UI. They still don't have extensions or webm playback.

>>58542789
I just wish that Open Camera's * Disable shutter sound. would actually work or be able to find it. So far it's the only one that doesn't disable the shutter sound.

>>58544087
You're not very good at maths

any small android phones? i like really tiny screens

>>58543985
yo give me your x10 mini, i love that phone

>>58544143
Stop taking creepshots of underage girls, problem solved.

iPhone SE or Oneplus 3T for a person that has small hands and need a good battery life and a great camera.

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>>58542766
I was also thinking about S6. I was looking at the OP3T but then I noticed that S6 is only 300 here, much cheaper than the OP3. The camera seems really nice which is one of the main things I'm looking at. Is the One Plus really better in any meaningful way? I just know I prefer how it looks

>>58544143
Afaik you can delete the shutter sound files.

>>58544209
users report shit battery on s6, mileage seems to depend on the individual unit

>>58544149
Xperia X Compact is about all there is and it isn't much

>>58544246
that and Samsung's A3 phones

>>58543944
Not really no because it adds up. Apps are getting bigger as well as storing images, videos, podcasts, music and etc etc.

You're run out of 32gb sooner than you think.Not to mention android taking up a chunk of that even before you install anything.

>http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_trims_the_bezels_on_redmi_4-blog-22817.php

>>According to a report from China Xiaomi is quietly releasing a new batch of Redmi 4 units with reduced screen bezels.

white and gold versions now look more tolerable I guess. I wonder how long it'll take until those units reach the west. and if resellers state which unit it is.

>>58544259
4.7 inches aint small

Any news on the lg g6?

Im considering getting this. I have an s7 edge right now but I have an upgrade in two months or so.

Kinda getting sick of samsung, phone has become a bit laggy, and Im not too fond of the glass sandwich. S8 will probably be the same shit.

>>58544542
Any android phone smaller than that is either a ultra low budget model or several years old

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anyone with a mi5s that has a screen protector that isn't hideously ugly because of the 2.5D screen? pic related

anyone here have a oneplus 3t? thinking about ordering one today. cukz2 looks nice too but not every lte band is supported with at&t.

>>58544661
Yea... Shame there isn't anyone willing to make 4" phones anymore.
I don't want to look like a faggy gamer.

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Does anyone saw this issue ? OP3T with latest nova version. Can't find shit online

I'm due for an upgrade with Verizon but now I'm wondering about what phone to buy because they are cdma-based (and I'm on a plan with other family members so it won't change for the time being). I've had an iPhone 4S for years and I like its small size but it has less than 12gb, and I was looking into trying android because it's difficult to make an account on iOS to play mobage games.


Anyone with Verizon have phone recs, especially smaller size? X Compact looks good but it's not cdma.

WHY THE FUCK IS CHINKSHIT IN THIS FUCKING THREAD?

YOU HAVE YOUR OWN GENERAL YOU FUCKING DIRTY CHINK JEWS!!!!

>>58543815
>>58543815
>>58543815
>>58543815
>>58543815
>>58543815

>>58544837
Because this is smartphone general and they're smartphones?

>>58544826
There are no small android phones so just get the iPhone SE

>>58544671
Did you look on aliexpress?

Anybody have a good Tasker tutorial? I want to turn location services off unless Maps is open.

What are the best phones I can get on Verizon?

Aren't all android devices before 7 suppose to be rootable with the dirty cow exploit?

Why is it taking people so long to root phones?

>>58545249
Because the exploit has been patched.

>>58544737
>>58544542
>>58544149
The sooner you realise that "muh 4 inch screen for muh thumb and muh skinny jeans" was a stupid meme created by Apple themselves to justify selling the same small-ass, cheap, sub-720p POS pannel for a premium cost to their iToddlers for 4 fucking years straight, the better.

It was really obvious when they finally caved in and offered reasonably sized phones because that's what the whole market was demanding. Nobody actually wants a screen that small.

>>58545287
4" to 4.9">5" to 7"

>>58545396

>manlet hands

What does /spg/ think about the Vernee Thor?
Really considering buying it

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my alcatel idol 3 (4.7) won't connect to my windows 10 laptop to transfer files no matter what I do
I've installed the drivers on from the device itself via developer mode and installed the adb driver from google and I still can't get it to transfer mtp nor ptp
what am i missing?

>>58545287
just letting you know im not all of these people or the guy talking about gamers. i prefer phones around the 3.5 mark but no one males them anymore. it doesnt have to be flagship but actually usable would be nice

What are some good/decent "nice" budget phones for ~$100 or so?

I'm considering BLU R1 HD or whatever it is but it's majorly lacking roms despite that it was all over the place when everyone went nuts over it and rooted it.

>>58545509
G4 Play

>>58545469
Tried this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/idol3/comments/37d1vv/installing_adb_drivers_for_idol_3/

>>58545608
>Open the notifications dropdown and select "Connected as a media device" (was the default for mine).

I don't see this on my phone.

>>58545717
USB debugging is on?

>>58545469
Are you sure you're connecting the phone with developer options and adb DISABLED? Those usually conflict with MTP.

Also, is there any chance you're running one of those autism versions of Win10 with absolutely everything disabled? Those strip a lot of features and "useless bloat", and it could be the culprit.

>>58545747
Yeah. "Use USB for" has
>charging only
>transfer files mtp
>transfer files ptp
>midi
>drivers cd-rom

Need a sub-500$ CAD smartphone.

Canadian
Rogers

Looking for good battery life, 802.11 5g capability, decent picture and good screen size.

>>58545806
So what happens when you select drivers CD-ROM?

>>58546006
CD Drive (E:) USB Driver appears
just a driver folder, autorun and setup

>>58546028
Click on the setup then and install the driver

>>58546067
yeah did that again and multiple times before
I guess it's a problem with my PC

Just not a g4+, did I fuck up?

>>58545287
where do you get your cargo shorts at?

>>58546965
I wear slim fit pants and phones as big as the LG G4 fit just fine

>>58547004
>ONLY 5.5'' screen

manlet

>>58542440
Its the most slippery piece of shit ever
You can barelly hold it in your hands and it doesn't stand still on any surface without moving
Its like its haunted

Guys I moved from my old Android (Jelly Bean) to a lollipop version. I know since kitkat Google stopped programs from writing to the sd card.

Anyways my problem.

I used to plug my old phone into my pc at work and play my songs through windows media player, when I plugged in the new one it is not allowing me to drag and drop or select all and hit enter. I have to double clip ONE song and play that one song.

How do I drag and drop my songs from my phone into WMP? Is there a m3u program that would allow me to make playlists from my phone to use?

>>58546101
Depends, with the G4+ i'd suggest unlocking it and using a custom rom ASAP since on stock it overheats causing screen burn-in, and ResurrectionRemix lets you underclock to avoid said problem, it also enables the hidden LED to use for notifications and charging, in stock it's disabled unless you root and use a third party app to enable it only when charging.

It's a very solid phone right out of the box mind you, and most models already have nougat, but it really shines if you put a bit of work into it.

Has anyone SIM unlocked their galaxy s7 from a third party place? My carrier is firm on their $50 fee and that is way too much for a simple code.

>>58545974
Bump your budget to 600 and get the Oneplus 3T.

Otherwise get an older flagship, like a Galaxy S6.

I've got an old iPhone 4(?) which I have no idea what to do with it.

I wanted to test the new chatsecure but it needs iOS 8 and this only goes up to 7.
So I am open for ideas on what to do with it.

>>58547252
App2SD, move everything to the sd card and tell it to save and write everything to it, it's not letting you drag them to a playlist because it's all in the phones internal storage, also WMP is pure shit get a decent player like foobar or musicbee, it might fix your problem without messing with your phone

>>58542390
What OS to run on Zuk z2 ??

I am scared to miss too much the nexus eperience.

>>58547520
What's wrong with stock?

>>58547520
Another mangled AOSP repurposed to be a bad copy of iOS

>>58547594

Is it english, and with google play ?

>>58547628

AOSP ?? whats that ?

>>58547632
You can change language to English and the default app market has most google apps available for download. Including Google Play.

>>58547735

okay :) cheer mate

are you happy with your so far ?

Does the zuk z2 comes with turbo charger?

>>58547747
Yeah. ZUI has a few niggles that I'd change if I could (like why the fuck is the battery graph in developer options instead of battery information and settings) but other than that it's really nice looking and easy to use.

so which site is the best to buy a Z2 from? I've never ordered chinese stuff anywhere but eBay. Do they all accept paypal?

>>58547993
>>58547993
http://www.banggood.com/Lenovo-ZUK-Z2-5_0-inch-4GB-RAM-64GB-ROM-Snapdragon-820-2_15GHz-Quad-core-4G-Smartphone-p-1064299.html

Use the coupon ZUKZ2500 to get $12 off (white is $161, black $171 after coupon)

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>>58548107
looks like white is OOS

>>58547508
>foobar
>Initial release: December 20, 2002
>Operating systems: Windows XP
>Windows XP

Um... Why would I want to use a popular outdated software that is probably riddled with security vulnerabilities and possibly exploited on a daily basis?

Every day I wait for muh new Xiaomi Redmi 4 Prime to finally come, I wish more and more that I haven't bought it. Just looking for a case and glass that will fit and actually protect that crap is a chore.

Goodamn. I will miss my handy, indestructible Lumia 635.

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>>58542390
>Leaked
Sure

>>58548417
Loads on aliexpress

>>58547492
Use it as a burner phone and get to some illegal biz

XDA really is headache inducing with all the inbred pajeets. It's a miracle there are any ROMs at all.

>>58548196
Fuck off

>>58547508
Installed both bee and bar, not working. How can I get them to read from phones internal storage?

My phone is already rooted.

>>58548550
XDA is way too fucking big. Someone should make another no rules forum so people can start creating again and not worry about others crying over copying their work.

>>58548589
The problem when something gets too big is that there tends to be way too many spin-offs which creates useless fragmentation. Unfortunately I doubt major creators are going to suddenly band together to create a proper substitute now.

>>58548488

I won't buy shit from chinks ever again. I'm to impatient.

>>58548518
ehh I have an old android phone for that.

>>58548107
>ZUKZ2500
cheers man !!

>>58547492
Backup phone.
Get the 5, 5S or 5c

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>>58543785
>>58543835
>>58543597
I love this.
Faggy Xiaomi shill got BTFO by someone who actually owns the Zuk

>>58548589
>>58548722
I don't really understand what the problem is with it being too big. I gotta admit I only visit XDA sporadically to get my LineageOS or RR ROM and get the hell our of there, but some people apparently like to try tens of different ROMs.

Most of this mess would be fixed if every ROM had a good website (like CM used to have).

Also, why are poeple complaining about copying when copying is pretty much what making ROMs is about?

>>58542795
Se deu bem, anon. Eu paguei coisa de cem reais a mais, e olha que comprei no 11/11. Ainda não recebi o celular, atualmente está passando da unidade de tratamento para a unidade de distribuição da minha cidade. Boa sorte com qualquer coisa que resolva fazer.

How can I get windows to read my phone's SD card like a usb device instead of this stupid portable pnp shit?

>>58549488
It's fine for users like yourself who basically only visit once in a while to download some ROM with a guide attached. For creators and contributors? Horrendous.

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Reminder not to buy Xiaomi as they're literally the blowing up right now.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xiaomi-Mi-4c-explodes-in-users-back-pocket-leaves-third-degree-burns_id85330

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/technology/story/iphone-6-mi-4i-mi-5-phones-are-exploding-and-burning-people/1/730001.html

http://phoneradar.com/3-days-after-mi4i-caught-fire-now-xiaomi-mi-5-explodes-china/

>>58549582
Just choose file transfer on your phone when connecting?

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What does /spg/ think of the UMI Diamond?

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Anyone know anything about Nexus 6p US version? Frequency checker says it should work in Lithuania with all carriers but i heard that calling function just doesnt work. Anyone have more to say about this?

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Verizon
>Yeah I know shill, etc, but I don't get reception at work with any other carrier.

Screen: 1080p-1440p
5.5" max
Ram/GPU: Don't care if fast
Battery: 4 hours sot, i'm near a charger half the day.
Camera: Great camera as I take pictures often
Price: Under $500 new off contract.

>>58550547
Moto Z

>>58550586
$624 on verizon and best buy.

I am on prepaid so I don't qualify for those.

lg v20
$672
$200 visa prepaid gift card rebate
$472 before taxes

v20 worth $472?

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Do I have brain problems if I think this looks more fun than these slicked out glossy glass metal whatever bodies. Samsungs in particular, S7 seems like a great device but there's something about how their phones look that I can't stand

Are Moto G4s known for bad speakers? Call quality is buzzy and distorted.

Is mokee any good?

>>58551258
It looks like something a stormtrooper would use

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1+3T finally came in! So is the stock rom + SuperSU a-ok?

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>>58551298
So nice

What's the best rom for the Zuk Z2?

>>58551298
I have the exact same case for the iP6. Mainly bought it because of that. Black and white goes well with almost everything. Also can take a throw to a brick wall

>galaxy s8 is going to have that stupid-ass curved edge

What is the purpose of that?

>>58551312
What's wrong with stock?

>>58551327
It looks slick. Is there only a curved version or is there still an S8 and an S8 Edge like before

>>58551332
I actually liked the rom that came on my zuk from gearbest but I decided to remove it and put on actual stock. I regret it because it was missing features the one it came with had.

>>58551348
According to the S8 leak, the regular version is going to have it. Dunno if that's true.

iphone 7 vs pixel Not plus or xl.

>>58542813
Fuck, literally exactly what I want in a smartphone except for that.

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>>58551312
miui 8 or lineageos. los though is buggy as shit because there is next to no devs for the cukz 2. this is basically the only two rom options after stock. this is why I am against buying the cukz 2, it has no support.

>>58551418
Hopefully it gets more support soon.

how many of you are a lumia user?
I'm user lumia 720

Is there a good open source alternative to SuperSu?

I got the Moto Z Droid and I am going to return it for the Galaxy S7. The battery life is ass. Other than that it is a fantastic phone.

Just returned my Z Play and ordered a Motorola Droid Turbo. I know it's an older phone, but in great shape, new battery and came with a case.

150 Canabucks wasn't a bad deal. I'm sticking to used from now. Glass phones are stupid idea.

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So the Sony Xperia X is running Nougat. It can even run 7.1.1 as a test build apparently?

And right now it's on sale for $350. Is this a good option? Does anyone in /spg/ have one?

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>>58551452

not likely just look at cukz 1. same story. they are trying to be like xiaomi but don't have hype to sustain them. xiaomi release a ton of shovelware but they still support a lot their old flagship redmi/mi phones. lenovo on the other hand already has motorola and struggling to revive them all the while trying to shill cukz brand?! not happening.

>>58551581
To be honest I wouldn't buy anything that isn't 14nm-based - maybe a Galaxy A5 (2017) if you're looking for a non-chink phone in that price range?

>>58551312
Mokee, and it got official support by them as well so you can expect a totally bug-free rom by july or so.

>>58542635
Xiaomi apparently is releasing a 4.5in phone in their Mi lineup (premium, so probably at least $250 and high end SoC)

>>58549699
It's fucking morons putting the phone in their back pocket every time, look at the location in every article

What the fuck do you think happens when you bend a phone by sitting in it and puncturing the fragile battery with the metal frame of the phone?

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So how do I decide between s7, note 5, and iphone 7?

Price is no issue.

>>58551363
Which feature?

Also MoKee seems to be the most popular

>>58552056
IPhone 7 256GB obviously

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>>58552117
So if I get it, how do I protect the jet black from getting any scratches? If i'm paying $850 might as well get the swag© edition.

>>58552056
Choose the s7 it's the best phone on the market hands down

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So, are there any GOOD phones that are <5" that aren't an iPhone, Z3C, or Z5C?
I'm currently using a note 4 and love it to death, but I borrowed a friend's iphone and it was so refreshing using something so compact, but I really don't using iOS, it's not for me.
I'm not looking to replace my note 4, but more of having a side phone, or something

>Country
USA
>Carrier
AT&T
>Features
At least 2gb of ram, decent camera, expandable storage or 32gb of storage.
>Budget
<$250
>Size
<5"

>>58552526
>are there any GOOD phones that are <5
manlet confirmed

>>58552526
You just posted two very good phones that meet most of your criteria. They aren't cheap enough is the issue?

>>58552526
You're SOL mate, it's either a Z3 Compact or an X Compact for a small phone and both are $350+, only faggots buy applel.

hey, I'm looking to buy a smartphone in the US, I don't really care if used or new. I'm basically trying to get the best phone I can buy for under $150 USD. it must be able to be used on the MetroPCS network, what should I buy /G/? I was thinking of getting the ZTE Zax pro, is there better I could get for this much?

>>58552597
>SE
don't like iOS
>z3c
super fragile glass back makes it off putting to me
>z5c
still pretty pricey at $400 for a 2015 phone.
>>58552544
I've been using a note 4 for a year, coming from a note 2 before that
It's not bad at all one handing a note 2 or 4, but smaller phones like that iphone remind me of the days when smaller and smaller phones were impressive and the thing to have.

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Hey buds, what does gapless do and should I be using the blackplayer equalizer?
ZTE blade v6 is my phone

>>58549801
Doesn't work since jelly bean.

>>58552671
Nope, ZTE Zmax Pro or Moto G4 Play are your only choices if you want something recent for that price, just be warned that since the ZTE uses the same SoC as the Moto G4 it will overheat on games and 1080p videos, the G4 Play won't since it uses a weaker snapdragon (410).

>6" 1080p, 2 RAM/32 ROM, Snapdragon617, 3400 mAh, type C, fingerprint scanner/compass/gyrometer

VS

>5" 720p, 2 RAM/16 ROM, Snapdragon410, 2800 mAh removable, microUSB, stock android

SoT should be even on both because of the resolution (6-7 hours) but the Zmax has a lot more gimmicks than the G4P and type C is more comfy, but the G4P has a removable battery (maybe a zerolemon battery in the future) and is guaranteed to get more third party support since it's a budget motorola phone, in fact it already has official builds of resurrection remix N and AOKP.

I'd go for the Zmax if you don't mind it overheating, being huge and not getting as many roms as the other for when ZTE eventually abandons it, if it hasn't already by now.

>>58552862
Gapless means songs play one after the other without pauses, like a CD.

Also the equalizer depends on your earbuds/speakers, try them both and see which one is better, iirc blackplayer equalizer is good for nigbass and metal.

>>58552526
maybe look into the huawei p9, it's 5.2" but it's still very compact and premium build quality

Hey /g/ I just got a lightly used Nexus 6p off Craigslist for 275 USD, did I do good?

Also,anyway to move the back button to the right side.

So 1+ 3T is the best forseeable phone for the next year or two right in that price range? No new tech's gonna come up and dethrone the phone?

>>58545287
shut the fuck up stupid fat lard ass black cock sucking piece of shit. You are annoying. Nobody cares what you think about your micro dick and your need to compensate getting large shit so other people can see you at least have a huge phone. Just get out, now.

Looks like one of the ROM's available for the Exynos Note 4 is a port of the Note 5 ROM. Would it be better to use that over some variant of the N4's stock ROM? (Debloated in any case.) I keep reading that each new Galaxy phone brings a more palatable version of Touchwizz, which would be nice.

>>58553086
silly anon, the phone is dethroned in a month

>>58553732
Should I wait for new phones or get it now, I can't decide at all.

>>58553741
you should go whatever you budget fits and make logical reasoning.

noone can tell you what to do so mature up and do the only logical choice for you.

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Looking for a $200 ish phone for my mum, going to be a light gaming/facebook machine with occasional picture taking

is there a better phone for the money?

are the cheap Chinese phones going to break? my One Plus One is still serving me very well

>>58554026
Zuk z2?

>>58554065
god damn, what's the catch with the Zuk Z2?

>>58554080
>>58554065
Although I guess it's not really available on amazon

>>58554098
>>58554080
Only catch is that it's made in China for China, so check if the bands you need are supported before buying.

>>58554191
Also made for India too, forgot to say.

Supports English though

>>58554080
>>58554191
It also doesn't support the google playstore, right? That's the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger on it.

>>58554327
Maybe not on the ROM that comes preinstalled? You should almlst always wipe and install your own, resellers are really often installing crapware, sometimes adware into their ROM.

>>58554080
No removable battery or microsd. Meh camera.

Nothing huge I think.

>>58554327
Yeah it does.

Lets say I don't really care about price, is there really nothing better than the Pixel in android space if I want something thats not bigger than 5 inches and will work in the USA on Verizon as well as China/Japan without any issue? I just want good battery and ideally storage (microSD etc), something the Pixel lacks.

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>>58554626
Anon, listen to yourself. If the Pixel did everything you're asking for, it'd be a near perfect phone, and there is no such thing.

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>>58554768
Surely there is something I can get that is not the botnet though?

>>58554982
Just build a phone out of a Raspberry pi
29:47
https://youtu.be/6Cosn3grQ4Q?t=1787

>>58554626
The Galaxy S7 is 5.1", has a bigger battery, better camera, higher res than the Pixel (UHD 3000 mAh vs 1080p 2770 mAh) an has an sd slot, the only difference between the two is touchwizz and SD820 vs AOSP and SD821 but it's small enough to not matter, the pixel also shipped with faulty speakers and camera.

Honestly the pixel is a phone for cucks who just want to spend 800+ dollars on a status symbol but aren't stupid enough to buy from apple.

>>58554026
the one plus x is a great phone if you're not in the us or don't need 4g. My brother has one but only gets 3g on AT&T.

>>58555217
Not too big of a deal, why it so hard to make a perfect $200 phone? all they had to do was an updated One Plus One at $200

>>58555217
>>58555236
I'd go for a One Plus 2, but I don't think I love her that much

>>58554080
Just get a Redmi Note 3 Pro instead, it also has shit camera like Zuk Z2 and has a weaker processor plus less RAM.

It has a 5.5" display compared to the 5" of the Z2. It has a maximum brightness of 450 nits compared to 400 nits of the Z2 which means you can see the screen better on the RN3P under direct sunlight. The RN3P has a viewing angle of 178 degrees which means you can see it clearly from the side, while this is not supported by the screen of the Z2.

According to devicespecifications website, the ZuK Z2 shows audio results that are very slightly better than the average smartphone while the RN3P shows very good audio results.

Plus the battery and SoC combo gives the RN3P around 9-10hrs Screen On Time while the Zuk Z2 has around 6-7hrs.

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>>58555277
With those kinds of Chinese phones though I'm always seeing pretty sub par reviews

>>58555277
>>58555217
What phone in the $200 range comes with a stylus and isn't shit? I guess LG might be the go to for that? Looking at the Stylus 3 for now

http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_stylus_3-8492.php

>>58555277
Redmi note 3 pro Is inferior to the zuk z2 in every single way except battery life.

After reading a few reviews, it looks like the Zuk z2 is the best phone for under $200. Are there any others to consider? Not really interested in the redmi note 3 pro because it has a really shitty camera.

>>58555363
Any evidence to back this up?

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>>58555359
If the stylus is shit I guess I'll just have to pony up the cash for a One Plus 2, seems some used models are decently priced, it's too bad Cyanogen shut down, otherwise I'd get a OPO but I'm too lazy to root

>>58555306

It's probably because of morons who didn't check the shipping time.

>>58555306
Shills try to bring down the score so that people would not get it and instead buy the one they are shilling.

>>58555306
Well, yeah. Xiaomi is shit, I'm surprised it isn't lower.

thoughts on HTC10?

>>58555276
>I'd go for a One Plus 2, but I don't think I love her that much

got mine for 180 bucks. New. Couldn't be happier.

>Nougat is rolling out for the Z5 line
Holy shit finally. Anyone have it yet?

What to check for when buying used smartphone?

>>58552688
>>z5c
>still pretty pricey at $400 for a 2015 phone.
Stalk ebay, I got one with a cracked screen for $180, spend $40 on a new screen from aliexpress and it's working great these past months.

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>>58555393
There's the Meizu M5 Note. I think you can find it even cheaper than the z2, but it might have an even worse camera.

>>58555589
Great build quality and OS. Way overpriced. Cheapest it ever got was $499.

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Hey everyone, would need some buying advice:

Kinda have to go with tmobile as a carrier, since i have a decent old plan and around 160€ worth of money if i take one of their phones with a 24 month extension of the plan (17€/Month).
Here is what they offer:
Huawei nova
Huawei P9 (+130€ extra)
Huawei P9 lite (+ 0€ extra, kinda leaning towards getting the P9 or the lite so far)
Huawei P9 Plus (+324€)
Samsung Galaxy J5 (2016, +0€)
Samsung Galaxy S7 (+252€)
LG G5 SE (+84€)
And a bunch of other crap i think.
But yeah, watched a couple of comparison videos, especially about the P9 and lite, but still cant really decide. Maybe some of you here have any ideas or suggestions for me, would be very appreciated!

Also: is the P9 worth the extra +130€ over the P9 lite?

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>>58555554
plz don't start this again

Hey gang. S6 Edge user here. I've loved this phone since I got it around the time it came out, but one thing irks me: the battery life is absolutely shit. I'm a musician, and if I try to stream one 45 minute set on Periscope, it kills my phone. Every time I go out bar hopping with friends, by the end of the night my phone is dying and I have to put it in power save mode. Is there any kind of battery pack or something worth buying for the S6? Also, if I were to upgrade, is there anything with similar technical abilities but a battery life that doesn't totally suck my balls? Thanks.

http://www.gizchina.com/2017/01/19/xiaomi-redmi-note-4-india-specifications-price/

I'm thinking of getting the ZuK Z2 but since this came up, I'll buy this instead.

>>58556866
At that price I'm not impressed with the SD625. May as well get the redmi 4 for 50 dollars cheaper.

>>58556982
Only idiots won't get impressed with the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 SD Edition.

>>58556866
That's still on for pricey side compared to the zuk...

Only real advantage it seems to have is battery life and even then the Zuk z2 already gets 8 hours which would last regular people a couple of days.

>>58556996
It offers nothing impressive. Only an idiotic fanboy would find it impressive.

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How do I know if my battery is worn out or how long it has before it totally dies? It's a Nexus 6 so I couldn't replace it anyway but I would like some kind of warning before it dies.

The sensor just says Good in CPU-Z. Does it actually warn you near death?

>>58557108
No

>>58557258
Then what's the point of the faggot sensor

>>58557317
It's for temperature and if the battery is unhealthy.

Healthy!=reduced capacity

>>58557008
It has better display than ZuK, it has better suppoort not to mention better audio quality, you know, the stuff that matters. Also might have better camera than ZUK

>>58557326
What constitutes being unhealthy for a battery? And isn't being near death the same as being unhealthy?

>>58557398
>better audio quality
>better display
Source on that?

>>58557410
Reduced capacity doesn't mean near death. Lithium ions can really take some abuse.

Not sure what unhealthy means exactly though

Will Mi 6 be waterproof? Have had an S5 mini for two years or so now and I literally can't live without the protection.

I keep hearing people saying that CM is buggy, which Nougat ROM should I go for then?

>>58556505
>is the P9 worth the extra +130€ over the P9 lite?

if anyone could answer me this one, i'd be very happy. Need a new one asap, since my old one stopped working yesterday.

>>58556505
Why not Huawei Nova?

>>58557677
costs an extra +80€, forgot to write that. and wasnt that much better than the lite from what ive seen? or well, for +120 i can already get a P9, which is why i asked.

How does the ZuK Z2 camera compare to the other better camera phones like LeEco 2 x520 or the Cool1?

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>>58542390
Opinions on the Samsung J7 ?

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>mfw I just bought a Cat S60

>>58543829
>>58543866
Is Redmi note 3 better than Redmi note 4?

>>58557602
latest snapshot available on cm13 only so yes newest cm14 is unstable.

>>58558613
redmi note 4 already available in your country ? or you need to import them ? from benchmark gsmarena test redmi note 4 seems have better battery life for web browsing.

>>58558600
Are you a construction drone? Do you do mining? Do you travel to remote areas?
Why do you need a waterproof, dustproof, shockproof, slipproof, dropproof phone?

>>58558733

I'm neither of those things, I'm just a shameless ruggedization fetishist with no particular demands for bleeding edge performance.

bought x compact, satisfied.

>>58555589
Wonderful device. Just wish it had an AMOLED display instead of LCD. Best phone HTC has ever made but since they're so inept a times they priced it $100-120 more than the competition so it wasn't a big hit and everyone just bought the S7

>>58544542
Is that what you tell yourself?

>snapdragon version of note 4 has 625
disappointing

>>58542962
This

It's also much more comfortable than the previous Z bricks, but the design is still pretty stupid because of muh idealistic design concepts

>>58559409
It only has LTE bands for India anyway

>>58552997
is there any chink phones that I can add to the list to compare to the Z Max for this price range?

>>58559156
I assume it scratches very easily?

>>58559841
well I didn't test it on mine but yes the videos on yt show a weak hit with a butter knife chips the paint off. You need a case and it a bit slipery so I would have bought one anyways and the size is still fine

Get a 3T now or wait for more Oneplus 4 news/rumours?

>>58560114
I just don't like the glossy plastic. I might buy the z5 c and the xc and send the one back I don't like in the end.

How is batterylife? Audio? Camera?

>>58560276
well I switched over from a 3 year old xperia so it's a dream to me. Recharge it every 2-3 days, I just use it for news, audiobooks and social media. Has a decent stereo pair of speakers, the headphones is what I use. Camera is alright too, better you read the reviews regarding that.

I was thinking of Z5c but felt stupid buying last years phone.

>>58556505
Is the one plus 3 not an option?

>>58560530
That's why I'm also hesitant about the z5 compact... Which color do you have? What case did you get?

>>58560530
>>58560957
i just bought a used z5c for 250€, did i fuck up?

>>58542542
what's the catch with zuk2/zuk2 pro? the price for the specs is unbelievable

>>58542440
>>58542542
>>58561076

oh, no nfc. there's always something.

>>58561247
what do you use NFC for?

>>58560957
black ofc, got the 5-6 € case - most popular on amazon de
>>58561020
it's a solid phone, waterproof and well dimensioned which was most important to me. I wouldn't worry about your pick

>>58542390
About to switch to T-Mobile from Sprint because I'm tired of shitty cdma phones.

I'm also tired of Android, but I have zero interest in an iPhone because I can't stand apple products, so I'm thinking about switching to Windows 10 mobile since there's nothing I do on my Android phone (LG G4) that I wouldn't be able to do on Windows 10 mobile.

So what do you guys think is the best w10 phone right now? I'm leaning toward the Alcatel Idol 4S though I have no real interest in VR so I doubt I'll ever use the included headset... But I like the phone's specs. Is there a better phone for w10?

>>58560276
White ZUK Z2 is back in stock at banggood, it's $161 with the coupon ZUKZ2500 (black version is $171)
http://www.banggood.com/Lenovo-ZUK-Z2-5_0-inch-4GB-RAM-64GB-ROM-Snapdragon-820-2_15GHz-Quad-core-4G-Smartphone-p-1064299.html

>2017
>s7 edge
>still no nougat

>>58543785
The notification management is shit, i.e. notifications are not bundled/grouped or expandable and therefore also missing actions. Lock screen only shows one notification. I hope they fix this in Nougat.

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I'm at the end of my fucking rope here.

I bought an Android tablet for my grandparents a year ago and it's one the worst decisions of my life. All this time there's been some shit going on with it at least once a week.

I set up lincucks for my mom 2 years ago and it's worked like a charm, the grandparents think a laptop is too "complicated".

Is an Ipad better for the completely tech illiterate?

What lockscreen app is best for note devices?
I'm currently using Echo but it disables screen off note taking which is a nogo for me.
I just want a customizable lockscreen to get rid of this touchwizz shit.
>inb4 just use xposed
I can't root because reasons.

>>58562323
which linux would you recommend for tech illiterate

>>58562323
Yes it's great for the illiterate because you actually can't fuck it up. Heck, you can even create a childs account for them to prevent them from fucking with shit.

Don't know why you would ever buy an android tablet anyways. Even for the tech literate, they're fucking abysmal.

>>58561592
I don't think most manufacturers actually have nougat yet.

>>58562395

Ubuntu, everything works out of the box with minimal setup.

>>58562406

It was an impulsive decision, I overestimated my ability to retard-proof android.

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>>58557108
As you can see here, modern long-live li-ion batteries will be around 70% after 200 cycles. That's around the number of cycles I do in a year (charging every 1.5 day or so).

So I just change the battery in my phone once every year. They are usually around $10 on aliexpress anyway (if you have a flagship).

>>58561247
>there's always something
Well, yeah. There has to be something at those prices and most people don't care about nfc

>>58562406
I disagree about Android tablets being shit for tech literate people. I've had 3 iPads and fucking hated them, but I kept hoping they'd get better and didn't want to just give up. Then I got a free LG G Pad 7" tablet in a giveaway that I entered and didn't expect to win, and it's been fucking great. Rooted it without needing to unlock the bootloader, removed the LG bloatware, and I rarely use my laptop anymore. I got a folding case with a Bluetooth keyboard, and found out it had a SIM card slot so I got a cheap prepaid data-only SIM and now I have internet everywhere. It's perfect for Netflix, Hulu, prime video, IRC, taking notes in class, and I haven't found one thing that it can't do that my laptop can besides video games, which I don't play anyway.

>>58562323
get them an iPad or a Chromebook, depending on what they're using it for

>>58562331
Samsung Good Lock

>>58562966
I'm fucking retarded. Thank you.
Now if only I could change the shitty settings menu.

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