Why do people still use CRT monitors besides nostalgia or cost?

>>58539378
Latency

>>58539378
thats a boy (｡>﹏<｡)

>>58539378
Melee

>>58539378
hubba hubba....

>>58539408
Who cares?

>>58539378
pls stop posting my bf on 4chan

thanks

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>>58539378

1) Perfect black levels
2) Flawless off-axis viewing
3) Much faster refresh rate than LCD
4) Warmer, more natural image (thanks to scan lines and small granules)
5) Far longer life-span
6) Not subject to manufacture problems such as dead-pixels
7) Good range of compatibility with lower or non-standard resolutions without blurring

Given ultimate space and money the world's best CRT could easily crush the world's best LCD. So tell me /g/, why do you like your inferior screens that companies such as Samsung have brainwashed you to think is better than what already existed? The only cost-savings are on their end.

And the funny thing is you guys keep buying this crappy LCD technology and giving away your free CRTs on Craigslist. A fool and his dollar are soon parted I guess.

And before you start yapping about IPS panels:
Enjoy your slow G2G response to switch pixels already, not to mention that hidden input and scalar lag. Luckily, CRT has no such bullshit.

The only semi-legitimate point I've heard against CRTs regards weight, but you don't bitch about the weight of a prospective couch while furniture shopping, do you? Didn't think so.

>>58539871

you literally chose the shittiest LCD you could find as an example.

>gaming at 4:3 aspect ratio
>not having a 144hz 1ms response time LCD display in 2017

>>58539871

In that pic, the LCD is way off-axis, while the CRT is dead-on. Very misleading pic.

The refresh rate of CRT is NOT better than LCDs. You can get 144Hz LCDs at 1080p or even 1440p fairly affordably. Can you say the same of CRT?

Warmer =/= better. Everyone bangs on about IPS being better than TN, but IPS is cooler. In any case, colour temperature is subjective, but the best is obviously adjustable, which is easily done on either type.

CRTs DO have manufacturing issues, not dead pixels of course, since they don't have pixels in the same way as LCDs, but of course they also have their own range of issues. However, all of the CRTs that are still alive today obviously weren't defective, all the ones that were defective have already died off. That doesn't make CRTs inherently better, it just means it's got years of QC from its previous owners.

And no, you can't reasonably make CRTs with the 'pixel' density of LCDs (no matter what 'ultimate' size and money means), and there are several other advantages too.

>>58539871
>analog signals
>4:3 aspect ratio
>plasma displays also have great black levels and no problems with viewing angle

that post gave me cancer
>plasma master race

I know some competitive gaming people, especially in fighting games, use it because it reduces latency.

>>58540052
>mfw my parents still have an ancient plasma tv from 2005

plasmas are no longer relevant because they couldn't keep up with increasing resolution while keeping costs down. that old 720p screen really shows its age as does the old gas in the pixels. like, white is now yellow. it's like f.lux is on it lol. it was pretty sweet in it's day though. I think oled will be the ultimate once people figure out the burn in issues because like plasma, oled pixels completely shut off for blacks

>>58540228
>ancient
>2005
you must be 18+ to post here

>>58540066
smash only.

FGC transitioned to asus monitors in 2009.

>>58540410
>autistic manchildren clinging to older inferior things due to nostalgia
lol makes sense
melee fags are dumb

>using CRTs unironically

Literally enjoy eye cancer

>>58540424
I love melee, but even koreans were able to move away from CRTs, atleast tournament streams have decent upscalers (like the xrgb mini for the main streams).

The colors look significantly better on a CRT. It makes a difference even when watching porn, things look way more real. You're better off with a LCD for stuff like regular internet browsing and work though.

>keep an old CRT and a N64 + PS2 in the computer room
>needs to be close to the router so I can play PS2 online
>get a lecture about my hoarding tendencies by every friend and parent

Holy shit its only 21 inches and its the only other television in my house why are people in such a hurry to chuck shit?

Maybe I am a hoarder, I'd save every CRT if I could.

>>58540398
>not realizing that 10 years in real life is 1 million years in technology time

I was 12 then you dumb nigger

>>58540567
Son its getting late, get of Fortune dot org slash gee and go to bed

>>58540424
>>58540463
There's really not a choice because of the gamecube.

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>>58540577

CRTs support interlacing, no need to deinterlace bunch of stuff, nothing beats physics+brain

>>58540536
>I'd save every CRT if I could
same
my closet is full of them and my wife is mad but idgaf

>>58540011
>you literally chose the shittiest LCD you could find as an example.
someone says that every time it's posted, but it was actually a pretty decent LCD at the time the picture was taken

>>58540732
how old is the picture, then? because lcds these days don't suck ass provided you are an educated consumer, which most people aren't

>>58540424
i prefer the original ssb

Is IPS a meme? I don't find it much better than TN, I'm wondering if its just me.

>>58540754
its because they can get fuckhueg without weighing multiple tons and literally taking up an entire living room. bigger = better sometimes, especially for home theaters. imagine how massive a 65" 16:9 crt would be

>>58540754
lighter, easier to carry/move, less power usage
most people don't care about image quality
that was enough for them to catch on, manufacturers like them because they're cheaper to manufacture and ship

>>58540776
I think ips is a meme unless you really need the color accuracy because your living/profession depends on it

>>58540784
Why though?

>>58540790
My dad is a photographer and he had a TN monitor earlier for Photoshop and then he bought an IPS display. He says he misses the old one because the colours are better. He still uses his old ass Toshiba laptop to edit on the go too. Are the colours actually better or are they just cooler looking whereas the TN panels are warmer. I trust a photographer over the words of some bestbuy shill.

>>58540821
He was probably used to compensating for how off the TN was(baby duck syndrome). Either that or he got a really terrible IPS.

>>58540844
I guess I'm asking because I want to buy a 4k monitor for his birthday and I want something with good colours. Internet says IPS but he says TN so idk what to do in that case. Maybe install flux and make it warmer

>>58540882
>install flux
Making it "warmer" doesn't solve the problem faggot.
The important thing is finding a monitor and a graphics card that outputs full sRGB colors. That's all there is to it. Be glad you weren't around when dumbasses wondered why an image they made onscreen looked better compared to its printed version.
Also, ask your dad what shade of gray is best to "neutralize" or "reset" your eyes from bright colors burning into your retina. Start using that as a desktop background.

>>58539378
high end crts are good. the cheaper crts are shit. anything where the image thing is round belongs to trash

>>58541008
>the image thing is round
wat

>>58539408

has some impressive tits if so, would love to see his dick

>>58541036
surely not, "flat" CRTs were shit
the screen was convex for a reason, to allow the beam to hit the screen perpendicular/at a consistent angle, with a flat display, the beam hits the screen at a shallower angle the further from the centre you get, blurring the image

>>58540455

Ah the old "everyone who looked at a TV or computer screen before LCD took over in 2007 has cancer" meme.

fuck off child

>>58539408

I'll take your word on your claim when I see its nuts and dick.

>>58540882
>Maybe install flux

On a photographer's screen? Holy shit, that might be the dumbest thing I've EVER read on /g/, just wow...

http://imgur.com/gallery/RWbva

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>>58541303
>>A trans woman who is very feminine and has a penis.

>>58541064
the flat sony crt i used to have had good image quality and supported high resolutions.

>>58539378
Cute boy

>>58541754
they can be fine if they're not too "thin", not widescreen, or not very big
even when it's not a noticeable negative, it's still not a positive, which the first guy suggested

i've seen 17" flat computer monitors which it was barely noticeable, but then you have 30"+ widescreen flat tv's where the sides of the image were quite blurry on sharper media such as DVDs

>>58539788
blip blip

>>58539378
They are comfy cat perches and the picture quality is unmatched.

i am using a LCD now but i really feel like getting a widescreen high end crt just for fun.

>>58544376
>picture quality is unmatched.
This isn't true anymore since around 10 years.
Stop with this meme.

Are higher end crts quiet? I can't fucking strand that high pitched whine

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>>58544376
i miss having a cat on top of my tv/monitor

>>58544401
It is true, sorry your brain doesn't take into consideration that your opinion isn't fact.

>>58539408
I'd fuck it into the stratosphere either way

>>58544418
It really isn't.
It may have the best picture quality you poor faggot can afford, but that doesn't mean it is the best.

>>58544403
>I can't fucking strand that high pitched whine
It will be silent when you grow up.

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>>58544411
The 411 is that cats on CRTs is older than the internet.

>>58544411
Build a shelf right above the monitor.

>>58544432
Can you repeat the question?

>>58544463
it's not the same, and cats know it

>>58544444
quints confirm

>>58540710
>>58540536
We used to have like 30 at my parents' house and we threw out just about all of them. Most of them really were shit, but thinking back I think we threw out some nice ones 1600x1200 or greater. I think they were ViewSonic.

>>58540790
Have you ever used an IPS monitor for more than a couple seconds? SSDs are absolutely a meme unless you want them for their lack of moving parts in things like laptops, but IPS monitors are not a meme. They look so much better it's not even funny. I recently went from 2x ASUS vh222h monitors to 2x HP ZR24w monitors and everything looks ridiculously better. I also have an X220T with an IPS panel that I used to prefer to all my other laptops + the desktop monitors.

>>58544463
the shelf won't be warm

>>58539871
>5) Far longer life-span
What are the common failure modes for post-capacitor plague LED-lit LCDs? All I'm aware of is LED phosphor burnout. Do those go sooner than a CRT's phosphors? Because they're driven harder?

>>58539378
Ohh~! If I could just fart onii-chaaan!~

>>58539788
I own four CRTs because I host Melee meetups. Blip blip

>>58544793
Has a cis woman ever attended?

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>>58539378
As someone who has both a 144hz 1ms 1080p monitor and a 1440p 80hz CRT I can safely say that colors look much better and the higher resolution is nicer.
5:4 is much more comfier then 16:9, but the space and weight can be an issue for some

>>58544612
Put a heating pad on it. They're also useful for making shitty bread rise faster.

>>58540757
I'm sure this picture is AT LEAST 5 years old, probably as old as the copy-pasta that triggered your fragile internet ego.

Remember when it was a big deal for an LCD to have a 400:1 contrast ratio? xD

>>58545043
remember how then every company decided to use their own meassurement?

>>58539378
Autism, dementia

>>58544860
Some of the guys bring their girlfriends to tournaments sometimes. There are two half-decent female players in my scene, although all of the actually good players are men and the Melee scene is 90%+ male.

But I don't play video games or have hobbies to hang out with girls. If you want to hang out with girls, go to a bar or ask a girl on a date or something.

>>58539378
LCD/LED monitors can't display non-native resolutions without looking like shit.
>>58539871
>the world's best CRT could easily crush the world's best LCD
Figuratively and literally.

>>58545214
>when old people set the resolution low to make things bigger, instead of enabling UI scaling

>>58545234
Not every game supports every resolution. Emulators and VNs are a great example.

>inb4 /v/

>>58545263
If you play visual novels, other than novelty ones like Hatoful Boyfriend, it's time to reevaluate your life.

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>>58544929
I'm jelly

>>58545234
>implying it doesn't do exactly the same thing

I just want newer monitors to scale sub-HD stuff without looking like ass.

>>58539378
The latency of typical LCD screen over a CRT one is usually 20-100x higher.
CRTs have no native resolution, so every resolution can be nice and sharp. They also have nicer colours than a regular TN panel.
And some people just don't feel like switching i guess.

>>58539408
That makes it even better.

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my CRt is my favorite of the three

I was thinking of buying a CRT monitor for old games. But space -is- definitely an issue.

>>58549373
Which model is it?

>>58549396
Dell P1110

>>58549373
That would look better with a Kensington trackball.

>>58549445
That's kinda tempting. I wonder if I can find one in my country for a reasonable price.

>tfw your video card has no analog outputs
>tfw you have success using xrandr to render on you main card and output via the analog ports on an old one but the radeon drivers eventually hardlock when doing so

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>>58540779
Looks like a 42 inch CRT weighed 300 pounds

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>>58549462
i have 3

>>58549576
I got a similar one for free from a thrift store. Was barely able to roll it off the sidewalk into my minivan.

>>58545182
>Having hobbies because you actually enjoy them and not as a half hearted attempt to get laid

I envy you. Honestly.

>>58539378
They are actually still superior in every way only OLED can replace CRTs properly

>>58549709
My dad offered me his old 32" 1080p TV. I didn't take it because I don't like to have stuff I can't move myself, and it's a TV so it has rectangles instead of dots.

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>>58549841
>only OLED can replace CRTs properly
is it that that time again already to cry over the death of SED?

>>58549880
I'm hoping it will be good for /vr/. Too cheap to buy a flatscreen and interlaced DVDs work fine on it.

>>58549896
LCDs got too good and cheap. "Good enough" usually wins.

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>>58550014
don't forget SED was on display when LCD tv's were much shittier than they are now

they were cheap, that's all
this was before LED backlit lcd's too, so iirc SED wasn't even using more power than LCD's

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thin CRT never ever

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>>58550102
incase someone isn't aware, SED was thin, and worked in much the same way as CRTs
they were effectively a thin CRT

>>58550121
Which just as much eye cancer?

>>58550121
who cares thin CRTs actually hit the market, but due to patent trolls they couldn't be sold anymore

They enjoy high doses of radiation

>>58550133
A CRT is enough to set off the radiation badges worn by nuclear submarine crew.

>>58539871

>people falling for this decade old copy/pasta

>>58539788
FIYAAA blip blip TORYA

>>58539871
Sony Trinitron was like the pinnacle of CRT development. I think there was only one advancement after this that got rid of the visible scan lines.

>>58541106
its a dude and hes from chile.

>>58539378
CRT monitors are used in vision research bc they have best latency and fastest transition in the pixels
Also more accurate colours

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http://imgur.com/gallery/RWbva
Here's more of >her

>>58539378

I prefer LCD because I don't really fancy having electrons shot at my fucking head

>>58539378
they take up way too much room on the desk, it is like having a fucking boulder on your desk with no room for anything else, give me a 24 inch LCD HDTV with HDMI & VGA that way my PC and the internet is just another channel on the TV

>>58551166
I would suck her (male) feminine penis and let her (male) cum on my face

>>58551573
That's often not how femmes/bottoms work.

Because they're superior in every way except ease of transport and niceness to desk.

>>58540011
Nah that's what my "amazing" IPS panel looks like too.

>>58549373
i think im going to cum !!!

>>58551670
le upboat for you good sir
fuck off

>>58551613
Why not?

>>58539378
Low latency, good color, great view angles. Name one modern monitor which has those and I can switch.

>>58539871
You chose the worst LCD monitor that you could have possibly chosen. A half decent modern IPS panel is going to have just as good if not better blacks and color replication. Also I'd like to see some figures regarding lifespan since I'm highly skeptical on that claim.

>>58549709
crt tvs cant be that heavy. even i could lift it and im fat as fuck.

>>58539871

I agree with everything you said but is anyone still making CRT's? I really want one.

>>58553549
>A half decent modern IPS panel is going to have just as good if not better blacks

Stop talking bro. You're embarrassing yourself, plus I just got out of bed. Not a sight I want to see.

>>58539871
>The only semi-legitimate point I've heard against CRTs regards weight

I got sick of flyback noise.
I'm glad its gone and wont' ever come back.

>>58551245

Yeah, you prefer blue light burning out your corneas. Great job man, you really did your research. Such a smart fella.

>>58553549
1200:1 is the BEST IPS can do.
1200:1...

Even VA does 6000:1, you didn't even use the right LCD tech to try and prove your invalid point.

>>58555394

That's contrast ratio, not black level. The two are related, obviously, but not equivalent.

That said, there's no way in hell an IPS can dream of matching CRT black levels or it's contrast ratio.

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>>58539408
I'd hit it.

>>58549896
SED/FED are fixed resolution so they can fuck right off.

4chan. The only place where traps are superior to regular girls

>>58549841
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>>58555501
PLASMA

>>58555470
Name?

>>58556397
>believing fagbags and their faggot spam
>believing shitposters
>believing ramptant faggots spreading faggotry
don't let the tumblrinas and the faggucks trick you into thinking their rampant shitposts are the norm. not even here is it accepted.

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>>58539378
CRTs were created by god himself.

LCDs are mostly laggy chink shit.

OLED has potential but still needs to improve. They'll probably be good/affordable in 5 years give or take.

>>58555345
never had a crt monitor that made noise
you dont know what the fuck you're talking about

>>58556732
Maybe not monitors you've used, but every CRT TV makes a noise that's irritating to anyone who didn't grow up with it, and many who did but haven't experienced it for a while.

>>58555228
Their bulkiness makes it hard to get the center of mass close to your body. Oh, and I'm a weakling too.

>>58556683
lmao OLED is already dead.
faggots tried to push that shit for far more than it's worth.
now nobody is going to buy it.

So are we gonna talk about the female (chilean male) in OPs pic now?

>>58544793
Where? if near, will attend. Desperate to go to tournaments ;__;

>>58549373
did you enjoy Citrus? I've read the first 5 volumes but wasn't too impressed

>>58551166
My keyboard is full of cum

>>58549373
That's a nice fire engine. My brother had one like it.

>>58556577
can't compete
>>58550074

>>58540011
Are you talking input lag or black to white latency?

>>58562289
Clearly neither as no monitor does 2ms.

>>58540042
>Everyone bangs on about IPS being better than TN, but IPS is cooler.
It's not.
>In any case, colour temperature is subjective
It's not if you care about color reproduction at all.

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>>58556647
AYYY LMAO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qw4gMvTUA

>>58562466
I don't understand why are you posting this

>>58562466
cute :3

>>58562573
that's the trap without make up or photoshop

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Outside speedrun autists CRTs are obsolete no matter what /g/ says. Sure you could make CRT that beats any LCD on the market but if I wanted CRT of the same size, resolution and features as the current top of the line LCD monitors it would weigh 100kg and cost 20000 dollars.

>>58561416
That's one shitty plasma. Last Panasonic units produced black level of 0.003-0.004 cd/m^2 while having peak brightness of over 100 cd/m^2. Their final lineup had an ANSI checkerboard contrast ratio of 1:17000 which is rather insane. Rest in paradise plasma technology. I will hold onto my TX-P55VT50B for quite a while still until OLED matures.

>>58556397
4chan, the place where 'people' come to try and normalize their fetishes so they don't cry themselves to sleep every night.

>>58562466
what a qt :3

>>58562751
keep in mind SED was on display around '05/'06
both LCD's and Plasma's got better, but neither (have) caught up to SED, and if SED didn't die it could have improved as well

CRT is still King but there is one older tech that many people have forgotten. It has some lag, but was really good looking, CRT like.

Samsung's S-PVA. The high end version of their S-PVA looked amazing. Very similar to crt. Only came in 24-27 inches I think but they did make a certain panel for larger televisions. Looks better than any LCD and virtually no backlight bleed or glow. Very fast response time and low lag.

because aside from newer lcds most crts have faster refresh and lower latency

>>58539871
You just copy and pasted from a forum in 2012. Holy shit. http://boxenbase.com/bbs/thread/7

>>58564842
>Posted by: DerpAss
yea wouldn't be shocked it's himself now shitposting on /g/

>>58564842
that's not true, it's been posted on /g/ earlier than 2012

>>58565037
Rebecca Black Tech ends in 2011 but some oldfags remember it from earlier than that in the thread. So yep, old pasta.

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>>58549271
>have no native resolution
but they have, anon.