>download libre office >it's shit >download open

>>58525562
>download LATEX
>you have to be a fucking nuclear engineer rocket scientist just to type two sentences

I actually lel'd because it's true. Poorfags don't even have an excuse since it's so easy to pirate or buy a russian scam key for $5.

>>58525562
What is lyx?

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>>58525562
>office software
t. wagecuck

>>58525620
This. NEET life ftw.

>>58525620
>>58525644
neets are worse than niggers.

>>58525562
>download LATEX
I want to transcend reality and download a programming language too.

>>58525620
> t.
tpi

>>58525562
>you have to be a fucking nuclear engineer rocket scientist just to type two sentences
The biggest downside to LaTeX is that you have to speak english.
Other than that, it is the same if not 100% identical to writing a document in microsoft office, except the hotkeys and the button layout are different.
You type stuff using the keyboard, special things can be done from the menus.
The good thing about LaTeX is that when you press those menu options, it will not do some magic behind the scenes, it just inserts text you could just as easily write yourself.
Maybe the first document you write is a bit puzzling, but it is just as easy to learn as learning to write stuff in word.

>>58526716
Broken window fallacy.

>>58525562
What exactly is so shit about LibreOffice sans the outdated design?

I use it and MS Office (for different purposes) and while LO isn't quite there, it's pretty damn decent for most people.

>>58525562
>>58525579
If you can't use latex you probably shouldn't be programming. Only the mathematical syntax is somewhat complex, and regular document markup is about as complex as markdown.

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I have been using libreOffice but when I tried to send some work for the school, it switched all the text and pics positions.

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>you have to be a fucking nuclear engineer rocket scientist just to type two sentences
>I actually lel'd because it's true.
>Latex

>>58528497

You mean, someone opened it in MS Word, and it didn't work, because Word is buggy?

>>58525562
>>download libre office
>>i'm not used to it so it's shit
>>download open office
>>i'm not used to it so it's shit
>>download LATEX
>>i'm too stupid to look up half page of documentation
>>download Microsoft Office
>>i'm used to it so i like it, moreover, i wanna shitpost on g.

I fixed your post

>>58525562

>download LATEX
>you have to be a fucking nuclear engineer rocket scientist just to type two sentences

Sorry, you are just dumb. Latex is extremely easy. Use a template as base, read a wiki, and boom. You're ready to write any document, from a thesis to a simple two page report.

>>58528376
>have to speak english

What?

>>58528582

Keywords and markups make way more sense if you know English.

>>58528582
Writing non-English papers in LaTeX is sometimes a bit awkward.

>>58528582
if you are pajeet that only speaks in curry, something like '\begin{titlepage}' wont be as intuitive

>>58525562
> too stupid to use Latex
Once again OP is a faggot

what if i only want word and excel, how to do this?

last time i used the official installer it just slapped all kinds of shit on my computer without asking anything. i don't need the entire MS software catalog, just word and excel

>>58525562
>download LATEX
You're a fucking idiot if you can't use LaTeX, it's literally the simplest fucking thing that exists.

>>58528497
>what is PDF?

>>58528775
just checked and if you want to install one "app" of the office set, you have to install the complete office suite plus additional bullshit like outlook, skype and onedrive

how is this acceptable?

>>58528564
>read a wiki
>needing that just to use a word processor

>>58528636
There is nothing intuitive about it. Why '\begin{titlepage}' instead of '\begin(titlepage)' or '\begin titlepage' ?

>>58528996
Works fine on macOS, Microshaft literally ruined Word on their OS.

>>58525562
>download Microsoft Office
can't make plots with several indepentent y-axis, without overlaying then on eachother.
>""Office"" my ass

>>58528481
then how do i change font and its size. without trying to figure out the config for 20 minutes

>>58525562
Once they fix compatibility with .docx and other new formats introduced with office 2007, it'll be perfect.

>>58525562
assuming you're not just trying to make us all super mad on purpose, what exactly is it you need that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

>you have to be a fucking nuclear engineer rocket scientist just to type two sentences
come on buddy you're not that simple are you?

>>58528613
This.
The accents in French words are a pain to write.
Otherwise it's clear and great for scientific papers.

>>58525562
> >you have to be a fucking nuclear engineer rocket scientist just to type two sentences
This is /g/ level in 2017.

whats erong with libre office?

>>58525562
>anime
>"I'm to stupid for fucking LaTeX, something you could write the bulk of non-mathemtical work in txt files and typeset later"

checks out

>>58525562
>libreoffice
>it's shit

How? Any explanation at all?

You are lying through your goddamn teeth. At this point LibreOffice does everything MS Office does, there is no noticeable difference, except

>LibreOffice loads faster
>you don't have to buy or pirate it

You are a faggot. I bet you were also one of the fags that hated Windows 8 for no other reason than the goddamn start menu. What a fucking baby.

>>58529893

Is there something equivalent to The Saurus in LO? Been using it for years on and off, but at least haven't come across such a function.

>>58528613
>what is XeTeX

>>58529305
Writing in Norwegian is about as annoying as setting it up to use UTF-8, and then everything works.

Isn't it the same in French? Once it reads the file as UTF-8, the cedilles and accents should just be there. What is nice about the system is that it lets people write symbols they don't have on their keyboard.

>>58528416
>while LO isn't quite there, it's pretty damn decent for most people.

Pretty much. The sort of shit I use desktop publishing software for doesn't require anything special. I've been using Open/LibreOffice for as long as I can remember now, and have never run into an issue where it WASN'T more than sufficient. Most people are in this same boat. If you do have special requirements, then chances are that LaTex, and not MS Office is what you need.

>>58525562
Commercial software needs to meet a certain user standard to sell because the only people who would buy software are basically computer illiterate.

I personally have never paid for Office currently have it through university and before that I pirated. Hell, the pirated version is BETTER because it doesn't try to authenticate to MS servers once a week

but LibreOffice is great for everything apart from referencing without third party tools.

>>58525562
>Microsoft Office
>not shit

lol wut. I'm not saying that Libre Office is better, mind you, but MS Office is equally shit.

>>58525562
>LATEX
>you have to be a fucking nuclear engineer rocket scientist just to type two sentences
It's true there's a learning curve until you know how things behave, but it's not that bad. After a bit of time, you'll just know how to use it. There's not that much to learn.
Also there are templates for a lot of stuff, which make it really easy to get you started.
You can use beamer to create presentations for example. They look so much better than powerpoint, and beamer isn't complicated at all.

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>>58530527
>Beamer

didn't know this existed

this is the kind of cool shit I browse /g/ for

thanks m8

>>58529160
\big

Or set the font size in the preamble

>>58525562
you are retarded.

>>58528533
>organization primarily uses Word
>create document in hipster bullshit
>blame the more popular software on the fact that your hipster bullshit fails to create compatible documents

>>58531110
It certainly isn't LibreOffice's fault that MS is shit at implementing any standards not their own.

>>58525562
I used to take notes during classes in LaTeX
Are you retarded?

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>Libre office
>ctrl-A, set font
>click somewhere in text, start typing
>Times New Roman
>ctrl-A, set font
>type
>Times New Roman
>whatever
>on page 385 of 900
>replace all "foo" with "bar"
>suddenly, I'm on page 900
>where was I.jpg
>why did you scroll me to the end.jpg

I have a virtual machine strictly for Word, Excel, etc.

>>58529959
A regular thesaurus? Yes, though depending on what version of LibreOffice you have installed, you may have to install a thesaurus package yourself.

On Arch, you need the libmythes package, and then a language package like mythes-en for english

>>58525562
Use microsoft word online

>>58531147
>It certainly isn't LibreOffice's fault that MS is shit at implementing any standards not their own.

Microsoft is shit at implementing their own standards. The ISO OOXML standard is a steaming pile, and Microsoft doesn't even support it correctly.

From the Wikipedia:

Starting with Microsoft Office 2007, the Office Open XML file formats have become the default file format[4] of Microsoft Office.[5][6] However, due to the changes introduced in the Office Open XML standard, Office 2007 is not wholly in compliance with ISO/IEC 29500:2008.[39] Office 2010 includes support for the ISO/IEC 29500:2008-compliant version of Office Open XML, but it can only save documents conforming to the transitional, not the strict, schemas of the specification.[40][41]

It makes me kinda sad that people blame the devs for OO and LO not being able to read and write perfectly between microsoft formats.

Microsoft literally doesn't follow the standards that they write and they do this on purpose.

A dev first implements part of the standard according to what microsoft publishes, then they try to open a microsoft document that includes what they wrote, then it doesn't work and they try to figure out why. Now do this a hundred thousand times because microsoft doesn't want people to stop being locked in with their software.

>>58525562
Have you tried not being really, really retarded?

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>>58525562
>He didnt buy Office 2016 for $10 from work

>>58525562
> use libre office
> it just werks

I have no idea what you're on about, OP.

>>58530173
>the pirated version is better
Sadly this is the case with a lot of software (including games).
The amount of accounts you need for paid software is way too high.

>>58525579
>Poorfags don't even have an excuse

Not everyone is a consumerist retard. MS could fucking give away their proprietary horse shit for free, and I'd still use LibreOffice. When Office, and Windows are open and respect users' freedom, then I may consider using them.

>>58525562
Basipally you're fucking stupid

>>58525562
IMBECILE! HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE KNUTH'S LATEX

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>>58525620
I use excel as a bug tracker.

Fight me senpaitachi.

>>58525562
OP is a confirmed retard

>>58527600
Download C++

>>58525562
Same retard who keeps making anti-Linux thread with the same anime picture. Get a life you dumb weeaboo.

Remember to sage.

>>58525562
>Libre office
>shit
Luddite college fag detected.
It literally just works. If your sending a file to someone who will be opening with Ms office, just export accordingly and stop being a dumb bitch. My whole team uses this at work
(salaried infosec employee) and we make more money in a month than you have in your life.

Poojeet detected

>download libre office
>it just werk
>saved me some money
>i dont feel like a pirate neither
wew lad

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>tfw too smart to not edit my documents using vim

>>58525562
>>download Microsoft Office
>>it just werks
yeah, right.

>>58529305
>>58530079
Just use SILE

Libreoffice is breddy gud

>>58535231
Oh, and here's why:

> TeX users may have an expectation that SILE will do certain things with ordinary text as well. For instance, if you place two straight-backquotes into a TeX document (like this:``) then TeX will magically turn that into a double opening quote (“). SILE won’t do this. If you want a double opening quote, you have to ask for one. Similarly, en- and em-dashes have to be input as actual Unicode characters for en- and em-dashes, rather than the pseudo-ligatures such as -- or --- that TeX later transforms to the Unicode characters.
>The second clever thing that happens around ordinary text is that a few — four, in fact — characters have a special meaning to SILE. All of these will be familiar to TeX users. We’ve seen that a backslash is used to start a command, and we’ll look into commands in more detail soon. Left and right curly braces ({,}) are used for grouping, particularly in command arguments. Finally, a percent sign is used as a comment character, meaning that everything from the percent to the end of the line is ignored by SILE. If you want to actually typeset these characters, prepend a backslash to them: \\produces ‘\’,\{produces ‘{’,\}produces ‘}’, and\%produces ‘%’.
>SILE is Unicode compatible, and expects its input files to be in the UTF-8 encoding. (The actual range of Unicode characters supported will depend on the supported ranges of the fonts that SILE is using to typeset.) Some Unicode characters are hard to locate on a standard keyboard, and so are difficult to enter into SILE documents. The unichar package helps with this problem by providing a command to enter Unicode codepoints. After loading unichar, the\unichar command becomes available: \unichar{U+263A} % produces

Everything else is UTF-8 and will print out correctly out of the box assuming you set a font that a glyph for the characters.
あば x Hello world. あ will produce: あば x Hello world. あ
That simple.

>>58530079
yes it is, he's being retarded

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>>58525562
came buckets to ryuko's cleavage
http://konachan.com/post/show/173369

>>58525620
>>58525644
>>58526716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBiOx3pKZAc

>>58525579
>being so completely braindead you think LaTeX is difficult
What the fuck

>>58529160

{\large foo}

, or

{\huge bar}

, whichever you prefer, or you could just set the actual fontsize in the preamble if it's for the whole text

If you can't figure this shit out, you're genuinely stupid. Indisputably idiotic.

LaTeX is one of the easiest implementations of TeX out there and the comfiest. It is literally made to be the casualfag version of TeX, and it does it brilliantly.

Or are you trying to write this shit in notepad or something? If you don't know how to configure Emacs or vim, try TeXstudio, it's got most of the commands built into the menu if you're too ADHD to read the documentation

>>58527600
You download distributions of LaTeX so you can compile it, senpai. TeXlive or MikTeX or whatever

>>58529971
Not LaTeX

>>58528996
Because if you use Office, Microsoft already knows you're retarded. And retards don't complain.

>>58525562
>download wps
>it's chinese botnet

but hey, better than microsoft shit and it runs natively on linux

>>58525562
The point is that the documents you try to open with LibreOffice or OpenOffice
Is already corrupted to ne only used in Microsoft office
So one day maybe
They will stop using this fag Microsoft office for LibreOffice
These day the smartphones will have more than teras inside

>>58525579
>not using laTEX
...

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>apt-get install libreoffice
>it just works out of the box
Works on my machine.

>>58534848
>implying vim is difficult, at all

people are just lazy, vim is the easiest thing in the world

>>58525562

Latex is God tier for engineering reports....fucking love it

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>>58525562
>downloading viruses or paying
>not using WPS Office for Linux

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>>58525562
>libre office is shit
in what way? oh that's right this is just poor bait and OP is a faggot.

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>>58528564
>read a wiki
>word processor

>>58525562
>you have to be a fucking nuclear engineer rocket scientist just to type two sentences
Academical institutions in Niggerland don't teach Latex to first years/prep schoolers?
TOP FUCKING KEK

Tfw I just do my shit in html.

No latex to learn, no MS Office, no open/Libre office bs. Just div and span with some css. Hell using tables without any outline or fills gets most formatting work done.

Even use html in place of PowerPoint too.
>to go give presentation
>opens in any web browser
>fuck compatability issues
>get compliments after meeting

>>58525562
Fuck of Pajeet. LibreOffice/OpenOffice are just as usable as M$Office (except maybe for the powerpoint and database tools, those seem kind of underdeveloped) and the UI is far more intuitive than that stupid hipster trash MS Office has had since 2007. If you're using mainly word or excel, libreoffice should be fine as a drop-in replacement, you barely notice the difference.

>>58534232


How do I send a Libre docx file to someone who uses MS Word properly?

>>58529144
>>read a wiki
>>needing that just to use a word processor
Dude, even fucking vi needs documentation. If you want to type something up without having to read anything first, just use echo or notepad or something.

>>58525562
>you have to be a fucking nuclear engineer rocket scientist just to type two sentences
You are retarded

>>58525562

You forgot

>use google docs
>it just werks and I don't even need to install anything

>>58529959
You literally just do tools --> thesaurus.

>>58538552
>need to write a research paper for my Philosophy of Gender course
>word processor requires me to read a wiki first
>tfw the botnet wants me to drop out

>>58539287
Google Docs is fucking garbage.

>>58525562
./you_dumb

There, I explained it.

/thread

>>58528376
Is LaTeX like Vim where it's rewarding for power users but to the average mortal it's completely unforgiving and difficult.

>>58539787
It's like Vim and Emacs in the sense that there is an actual learning curve, and that it will try to do exactly what you told it.

>>58525562
>download LATEX
>you have to be a fucking nuclear engineer rocket scientist just to type two sentences

k, then use markdown you ninny wop. lots of markdown -> TeX templaters out there m8.

>>58539787
it's neither.

it's a god awful markup/macro language drugded in shitty design that kind of got pushed forward to the point that no one bothered to write a user programmable markup and macro language that was better.

instead you have WYSIWYG markup shits like OOXML and ODF, which are shit because WYSIWYG is always shit.

Pandoc Markdown and pandoc filters are an ok in-between. you can define your own *TeX template that will transform your markdown to it.

>>58525562
Shitposting should all die.

>>58538890
This.

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>>58536114
How do you think all those cool people doing cool things can afford all these cool cool things, desu baka anongirl?

>try to use word
>Language specific shortcuts
>If you don't shift+space lines become wider
>Login popup three times when saving
>Don't remember save location and goes back to OneDrive (which I don't have/use)
>lags like fuck on slower hardware
>Its own save format (fucks over everybody else)
>Horrible UI
>Large updatebar Everytime you launch it
>Tabs on top where you could have it all on one page
>When saving , entire screen is used for UI
>Good correction

>Libre
>Just works
>Worse correction

Inb4 misuse

>>58541551
Government disability check.

>>58539787
I guess it is rewarding for the users, but the
>completely unforgiving and difficult
is a bit over the top.
You do know there is graphical interfaces so you can just click on stuff and it will insert the text, you can define snippets, so you only write part of a word and it will complete the sentence.
For the average users though, you don't really need more than making a section, writing text and inserting images.
When you need to do more than that, you need to figure out how to do that, regardless of the document format.
And the

\command{arg}

syntax is not hard to grasp.

>>58529144
>There is nothing intuitive about it. Why '\begin{titlepage}' instead of '\begin(titlepage)' or '\begin titlepage' ?
The \ is a good escape char as it is not used in the english language.
braces and brackets are good because you don't use them very often compared to parenthesis.
This way, you can easily distinguish between what is the argument and what is outside the text.
Take

\section{Section Name With Multiple Words}

Here you can clearly see that all the words belong to the section name and there is no reason to treat white space specially.

>>58534826
>not wanting to feel like a pirate
I get a bottle of rum and let my parrot out of his cage to torrent some files.

>>58541691
>disability
>goes to gym to work out

>>58540646
If you think LaTeX is poorly designed, you're a brainlet
It's made for one purpose you nigger: being an easy, automated typesetting tool for academics.
Want more control, use ConTeXt.

Markdown is complete trash

>>58528398
What's that?

I want to expand my horizons and get more education. Feed me knowledge like the cuck I am.

>>58528416
LibreOffice is unusable and buggy as hell

Try making a nested numbered list within a bullet list and then resuming the bullet list afterwards. You can't do it.

You're better off using Google Docs.

>>58543706
>Try making a nested numbered list within a bullet list and then resuming the bullet list afterwards.
Try to come up with a scenario where you would need to do this.
>You can't do it.

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>>58543706
>Try making a nested numbered list within a bullet list and then resuming the bullet list afterwards. You can't do it.
this?

>>58542034
>people with physical dosabilities don't need to exercise in a controlled enviroment

>>58526716
reminder: NEETs are the reason Trump won, because they shilled away for one year literally for free, fighting against paid shills (aka nerd virgins) from Correct The Record.

>>58539787
Just learn TeX (not LaTeX) and do everything yourself. If you grow tired of doing everything yourself, then move on to LaTeX.

>>58543706
You wanna nest a list in 2. in a list of 1;2;3

Make list 1;2;3
Go to 2
make a nested list
WOW
so hard

(Jokes aside, it's fairly unintuitive and annoying, but it's pretty easy once you know how. Not as convenient as just backtab, but if you want convenience and productivity, use LaTeX like a reasonable fucking person)

>>58525620
>torrent it
>free is a price even neets can afford
>then you use the same software as 90% of people
>better than the alternatives

If you choose libre of something over torrenting office you fail at decision making.

>>58544415
>torrenting literal crapware
If you choose WISIWYG over something that needs to compile you objectively fail at being cognitively functional

>>58538993
Export as office file you little win baby.

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>>58525562
>complains about free alternatives to $100+ software not being as good
>posts a vector from the anime Kill la Kill as the required OP image

Did they fix LibreOffice/OpenOffice infinite loop save crash bug?