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How are you serving your home? Home server, network, storage

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>>58498890
Nice housefire.
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>>58498890
>powerbill.jpg
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I pay for shit like mail hosting, because I don't want to maintain important services.
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>>58498890
I just started snapRAID for parity on my plex server.
Really liking it so far.
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>>58498890
basement's a bit crowded these days
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Got a pc engines apu2c4 with opnsense working as my router.

Pic related is for the most part my file server + backups of my desktop computer. It hosts some random crap once in a while too, but I intend to split those off to a different system later. I don't feel comfortable with hosting internet facing services on the same machine that hosts my files and backups.

Want an offline backup system too, but not sure how i'd deal with that. Talk my brother into giving me his old microserver n54l and use that for backups maybe. Make it wake up once a week and run rsync.
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>>58498890
What are you doing with all those shitty PCs?
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>>58498890
My home Server is a Mac mini 2014 with ESXi on it.
It currently runs two Windows Server 2016. One for Backup and SMB shares (3 2TB HDDs in Windows Build in parity RAID)
The other one is for privately and unrestricted internet access while I'm at work.
Thank you based VPN technology
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>>58499654
Don't run raid 5 with 2tb disks it's essentially worthless.
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What is babby's first home server? Just a computer with no monitor with remote access?
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>>58499704
Well no. 1 out of 3 drives can fail without losing my data and I got around 2x2TB storage space.

Works like a charm bro
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>>58499714
Something like that I suppose. Just a random PC, your old one, or just something you got for free somewhere.

That's where I started. When I got my current system, I uninstalled xorg and kept the old LGA775 system running as a server.
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>>58499545
How is the usage?

Are you using a VPN ?
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>>58498890
I have a FreeNAS box with a 10TB volume shared 2 different ways: SMB sharing for windows and NFS sharing for my ESXi servers. The ESXi servers are fully stored on FreeNAS so upgrading my ESXi servers and adding more capacity is very easy.

Just bought some 10gig networking cards and as soon as I can confirm they're compatible with FreeNAS and ESXi 6 i'm going to buy a 10gig sfp+ router off ebay.
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>>58499222
kek
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Still rocking my Deban-running Microserver, maxed to 16GB and with 12TB in RAID5 as storage (4x4TB).

DHCP and DNS with dnsmasq, file sharing with Samba (installed in bare metal OS)
Systemd-nspawn containers which run two instances of Transmission-daemon (one for public trackers, other for private), Asterisk, ejabberd, amule, and a monitoring one which runs nagios/cacti/other stuff.
And a KVM instance running Server 2016 as DC, but haven't put too much work in that one lately.
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>>58498890
I don't need to serve anything, I just got an external storage pod connected to my one and only computer.

It has a max capacity of over 64TB so I'm set for the near future.
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I've got an IBM tower server on 64GB RAM, 6TB RAID10 (12x1TB), and two octacore Xeon E5s.

It runs sshd, httpd, private ircd, and pfsense. On the LAN side it acts as a media server. Backs up monthly to LTO5 tapes which are kept in a gun safe.
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>>58498890
>>58499356
>>58499545
>>58499798
>>58499860
What do you guys have in such servers?
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Plex
OpenVPN
IP camera DVR (blue iris)
Das it mane.
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>>58499798
Are you running FreeNAS in a VM? I've always been told that that's a bad idea, especially in combination with RAID.
I'm currently looking at setting up my own server, I basically want a NAS and VM playground for stuff. So I'm either looking at normal Ubuntu server with samba shares + KVM VMs or something like you've done.
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>>58500058
No, FreeNAS is running on bare metal, there was no reason for me to install it on a VM, also i'm relying on freenas for my VM drive storage, so freenas has to be up and running before my vms are. I do have one service running in a freenas jail though, opencloud. works really nicely.

pfSense IS virtualized though, and its really neat.

Just ordered some 10gigabit sfp+ cards on ebay, as soon as they're confirmed working with freenas and esxi6 (they say they are but who knows) i'm gonna buy a Quanta LB6M 10gig switch to take advantage of the full potential of my freenas box.
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>>58500150
Great price, bet they're loud as fuck though
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>>58500014
it runs our reality in a qemu-kvm and i'm lighting candles and saying prayers that it won't just stop
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>>58500195
oh dont worry i'll be taking care of the noise.

If you didnt notice i'm running a poweredge 2950, loud as all hell under full load normally. The noise is easy to mitigate though, first make sure you have 2 psus installled not just one, they share the load so neither of them spins up past a whisper. second, solder some 47ohm resistors to the 4 cpu fans to drop their rpm range into whisper territory. The extra heat hasn't bothered my server for the past 5 months.

I'll probably replace the internal switch fan or volt mod it depending on which i think is safer.
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>>58499797
About 45-55W. The two 6TB drives requires about 10W each. The 3TB drive requires about 5-6W I think.

The files are served with netatalk, ssh for remote control and file transfer from windows (winscp). Sometimes I run game servers on it. It's pretty overpowered for what it does I think. I'm the only user.

I don't use VPN yet, but I'd probably setup a cheap VPS elsewhere for that.
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TS140 running Proxmox serving up dokuwiki, nextcloud, openvpn, unifi controller, and more soon.

Network is ERL + Ubiquiti AP on two LANS. One for wired homelab stuff the other is for all things wifi.
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>>58499299

I use it as well. 3x3 TB data plus 1x3 TB parity. Feels good man. I'll buy 3x9 TB disks soon, then use the 3x3 TB as parity.

My parity is on USB-3 disks, that way there is no energy wasted in normal operation.

Feels good man. Really.
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>>58499756
Read any documentation on raid 5 rebuild, anything over 1tb is asking for a disaster. But go ahead :)
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Once wife and I get a home I will love to match what some of you guys have. I'm pretty pleb in comparison at the moment but I'll get there. Currently configuring a Home router out of a junk'd thinkcentre. One day I'll have my NAS and ip camera setup.
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>>58500587
Why did you have to include wife in that sentence you fag?
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>>58500602
maybe his wife is a SysAdmin and owning a highly virtualized server cluster has always been her dream faggot
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My server is a Thinkpad X61 (firewall, routing dns/dhcp, torrents, mp3 streaming, httpd/mysql, VMs, wiki and mail) with a 500 gb disk.

Roast me.
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>>58500681
I think your X61 is probably already doing that.
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My power's been going down in quality and I'm thinking of getting a UPS. How heavy can it be before I have to get rails or some kind of support for it, instead of just bolting it to the front two posts of a rack?
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>>58500681
>running oldstable
What the fuck?
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>mfw people use server racks to serve a small home
>mfw the electric bill
>mfw I could provide the same services with maybe 3-4 raspberry pis, and 1 layer 3 switch

simplicity is efficient and beautiful. over complicating things to circlejerk yourself is not.
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>>58500769
Well I know I don't need a great deal in terms of power. One server, a switch, the pfSense machine that serves as my router, my modem and access point. Everything I have doesn't use 1.5kW.

But a while back I thought that this stuff was getting too messy so I picked up an old 22u rack on craigslist and put my shit into it. I'm worried about the weight of the UPS I'm gonna buy (something like 35lbs, I think). I'd rather not have to find a set of rails or something that fit it, but I'm a bit leery of hanging that much weight just off the front two posts. Should I be or am I underestimating the strength of rack nuts?
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>>58500833
nope
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>>58500760

Runs testing now, screenshot is from 2015.
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>>58500530
>orange wheat beer

yuck.
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>>58500833
If you could, you would be, and making tons of money off it.

You're here posting though
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>>58500873
Take a new screenshot then fag
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>>58499860
for filesharing you'd get much better speeds with ftp or nas
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I have no reason to run a home server.
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>>58499931
>LTO5
How much did the drive cost?
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>>58501086
$400
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>>58498890
I have a server with FreeBSD 11 running AES-256 encrypted root on zfs with 11 10TB WD Gold in raidz3 (giving me 72.8 TB usable diskspace) that functions as a router for my 1/1Gbps FTTH (IPv6-only LAN, unbound and void-zone-tools providing ad and malware blocking for every device), webserver (all publically accessible processes running in seperate jails), nfs and smb accessible media storage, mediacenter, VPN target if I'm on a network I don't trust, SQL server, torrent box with full kodi integration (episodes and series are downloaded, and added to kodi automatically), tvheadend for DVB-C, IPTV and SATIP TV with ~1000 channels), hypervisor through bhyve with iohyve providing a convenient interface.
Backup is done with zfs send to LTO6 tapes and to my unlimited spideroak account.
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>tfw bought this shit 3+ years ago
>tfw still havent set it up after moving 2 years ago
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>>58502022
That sounds really comfy.
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>>58502146
Comfy how? Not sure what you mean, but it's probably because I'm drunk and a bit tired.
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>>58502146
>>>58502022
>That sounds really comfy.
What in the holy fuck does this god damn word mean? For the sake of the rest of us, learn to communicate. In before triggered.
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>>58502178
>>58502188
It means it's a really nice setup.
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>>58502188
Am >>58502178, I was wondering that too but I just thought I was being stupid because alcohol.
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posting
>http, ftp, ssh server
just for fun
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>>58502203
Well, it is.
It's placed in a little cubby-hole underneath my floor in my house that has ventilation to the outside where it's always in shade (so even in the warmest summer, it doesn't get that hot - drives have never been or 41C).
So realistically nobody really knows it's there.

Oh, and it also serves as a capture point for 4 720p infrared PoE IPtv cameras and hold 5 weeks of rolling video.
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>>58502263
Almost like that other one it runs actually an ircd just for some tests.

I really need a project to do on this two things. i also own a chip
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Cheap Dell desktop sitting next to my DSL broadband with dual NICs and a Wifi card.

Running Snort, Bro-IDS, Iptables, DHCP Server and airodump-ng (so I can harvest SSIDs from the mobile phone of the nigger who tried to steal my car and the other nigger down the street who lets his dog shit all over the sidewalk). Also runs Node.js to query liberal media and send /pol to The Guardian if they actually allow comments on their articles on Muslims and Immigration - which happens about once a fucking month. That's not running all the time though, really need to fix it up as a permanent web scrape.

Best 100 dollars I ever spent - solid as a rock and completely noiseless, has been keeping my network cereal fresh for two years now. Never needs to reboot.

WDMyCloud for torrent storage - two Raspberry Pi's running OSMC for kino playback on TV and projector.

Fucking comfy af anons.

NB, I'm not a paranoid schizophrenic - all that IDS is training mainly.
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>>58502263
>>58502283
>screenshot a terminal
>jpg
What the fuck is wrong with you
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raspi doesnt do shit yet, deb server hosts plex and usenet shit
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>>58502022
are...are you a God?...
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>>58502323
linuxuser.jpeg
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>>58502323
i was on putty when i took that. .jpg it's windows default
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>>58502384
png is default for paint on win7
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>>58502363
No, just an oldfag (both in age and time spent on 4chan) and a network admin (I'm >>58501607) with too much money and enough free time to do with what he pleases.
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>>58502363
It's worth noting that once you get used to this kind of setup, you don't tend to notice it.
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>>58502440
>CCIE
>not a God
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>>58502530
Once upon a time CCIE havers could decide their own salary - that's no longer the case.
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>>58502022
>this entire fucking post
I feel like a low-level scrub witnessing a lvl 255 high wizard mass-murdering an entire field of mobs with a bunch of insta-casted AoE spells.
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>>58502436
i used the screen capture tool.
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>>58502549
>Once upon a time CCIE havers could decide their own salary - that's no longer the case.
yeah lol, I know, back at the turn of the century. Definitely still outside my meagre capabilities tho anon, fkn kudos.
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>>58502203, >>58502363, >>58502530, >>58502604, >>58502755
I'm currently building an all-flash server with 11 1.2TB U.2 NVMe SSDs in raidz3 (should get me around 8TB diskspace with +10GBps read and write and 1M IOPS) - waiting on Intel and Supermicro to launch their new Xeon E5 v6 and dual-socket motherboards respectively - just so I have a new bhyve host.
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>>58502780
I think you just put everyone and their build ITT to shame.
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>>58502806
Well, it's more to prove that it can be done; I just get the benefits of a very fast hypervisor out of it.
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Which reminds me, I need to source enough DIMMs to get at least 1TB memory for the machine, although I'm hoping I'll be able to get 2TB.
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>>58502853
>1TB memory
For what purpose?
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>>58502890
For >>58502780 - it's a hypervisor, I need to be able to freely allocate memory and not starve the host OS (freebsd with zfs).
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Actually, if https://www.supermicro.nl/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X10DRC-T4_.cfm gets updated with a Xeon v6 version I might be able to combine my current server and hypervisor into 1 machine. 3TB memory seems like it should be enough for a 78TB pool and an 8TB all-flash pool.
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3DS LRDIMM ECC memory isn't easy to source though.


Don't mind me, I'm basically using this thread as a pastebin to brainstorm.
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>>58502022
What hardware is this all on?
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>>58503162
A https://www.supermicro.nl/products/motherboard/Xeon/C236_C232/X11SSL-CF.cfm with an E3-1585 v5 and 64GB memory with 1 NIC functioning as WAN and the other as LAN, as well as a vale(4) switch.
My ARC cache hit ratio isn't very high though, hence why I want >>58502972 with what's mentioned in >>58502780.
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>>58499756
If one of three disks fail in a RAID5, the others will be stressed a lot more while rebuilding your RAID. This often causes another failure before rebuilding even finishes.

>>58500058
HBA in passthrough is fine.

>>58502780
Damn, that must be expensive. I guess there's no such thing as overkill.
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>>58503462
>Overkill
Sorry, that word is not in my dictionary.
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Like this
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>>58502780
>>58502022
Whats your hardware setup?
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>>58498890

That looks like fucking garbage. Why not just get a couple old 8U chassis and use those?
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somebody gave me an old server and i can't get this shit to work 2bh it's missing a lot of drivers
i hate IBM
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What other rasp pi's do you guys setup?
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>>58505063
Nigga wut
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>>58500833
Agree, i've a Raspberry Pi + 4Tb Lenovo NAS + Linksys Router, running several shit, including personal cloud, ssh tunneling, backups, media streaming, vpn, bla bla bla.
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>>58505374
Details please. Is there a newer pi coming out anytime soon?
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>>58499714
I used to use an old pos pc me and my friends built from parts we had lying about to run chat and game servers
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just bought a think center for $50; it'd DBANing now...
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I want to set up a media center but i'm really new to this computer stuff.
Is the Raspberry Pi any good or is it just a meme?
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>>58505555
did you scan for deleted files first to see if there was anything interesting? I always do that when I come by a used drive, just out of curiosity
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>>58502022

Damn that's cool ! i've almost the same configuration and services; some are public and others on another devices in my soho network. I use a Raspberry Pi as a route, 2 soho NAS and some local services (adding another security layer) being accesible through the main reversed ssh tunnel connection or through another one, redirecting it to TOR network; also serving as TOR AP so every device can connect safely (and slowly :/) or to the public AP.
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I use a ThinkCentre M900 for my server.
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>>58500705
several keks
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What are good server cases with additional cooling and room for plenty of HDD? No gaymer cases pls.
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>>58505967
^^
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>>58505762
clean your fucking house holy shit
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Oh nice, I've been waiting for a home server thread to pop up.

Guys I need your expert advice. I'm not very very good at computers like you, I can't program and don't know anything about the heavier and hands-on types of setitng up on home servers. But I really really would like a media server for my home that I could stream from.

I don't have an old computer around nor do I have the skill to put a server together myself. On top of that is my overall lack of tech skill and knowledge. Googling around, the best option for me, and I hope you'll give me your insight on this, is to buy a NAS, that I simply need to follow an easy setup for and pop the HDDs in, and since I want it primarily for media streaming, I need it to be able to do transcoding too.

So I googled some more and arrived at the DS416play from synology. It has 4 bays, which is plenty for me, can transcode 1 4k stream or 3 1080p streams at a time (ideal for my home) and the setup has been described everywhere as overwhelmingly simple which is a plus for me. However the pricetag is a bit high. https://www.amazon.com/Synology-DS416play-NAS-DiskStation-Diskless/dp/B01GB9ZJ3Q

Is this a good product? Do you have any recommendations on NAS? What about HDDs? Any brands or versions you like?
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>>58506877
i would go with something like that if i wanted it to just werk
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>>58506877
synology is pretty much the way to go for userfriendly prebought userfriendly nas
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>>58505003
Support is paid so don't expect to ever find those drivers.
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>>58502022
my new copypasta
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>>58506901
>>58506914

thank you, is that a good price for it? I've been following it for a few days and it's selling rather fast, in 2 days it went from 16 to 2 units in stock which kind of alarmed me a bit and made me think it was well priced, but I'm really ignorant on these matters.

Any HDDs brands or versions you like?
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>>58506936
you can probably find it cheaper on newegg, as for a drive just really anything server/nas rated, their speed will probably be a bit lower but they're rated for longer lifetimes at constant usage
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>>58500059
clean.

(weird that you got the monitor up there tho)
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>>58506962
Alright, is that something that is said somewhere on the advert for the HDD? Also I'd like to eventually be able torrent things directly into it/have it added to kodi/plex, would it be possible in that NAS?
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Tomorrow I will be getting my 1st NAS and a 3Tb HDD for backups seedbox and "cloud" storage.

I will go on a Odroid XU4 with Armbian and I think I will handle it cool.
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>>58506996
yeah synolgy can do all that with plugins, and server or nas will be listed on the hdd
check this out, I think it will suit your needs and is a bit cheaper than what you were looking at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108331&cm_re=synology-_-22-108-331-_-Product

and you can use that extra hundred on this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236344&cm_re=nas_hdd-_-22-236-344-_-Product
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>>58499356

is that a fucking Z

>>58498890

does anyone want to advise me on what would be an ideal low cost render farm?

i can get five dual socket motherboards for a thousand bucks, and ten eight core xeons for a thousand bucks, and the rest of the stuff for a thousand bucks.

is 3000 bucks for a 80 core farm a good idea? for mental ray or Iray.

i heard that you need to use the same processors in your workstation as in your farm, for some reason? so i'd have ten e5-2670 cpu's crunching, or twelve if my workstation also contributes. that'd be 96 cores / 192 threads. @2.6-3.3ghz with a combined 300mb l3 cache.
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>>58507069
Oh, thank you for that. I'll very much look into it. It seems to have the same cpu power right? That's what's needed for transcoding so it could stream at the same aforementioned rates that the 416 can right?

oh and you're quite right, it says NAS right there on the HDD, guess it was invisible to me before because of sheer ignorance
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>>58507137
Single H.264 4K or triple Full HD video transcoding on the fly
is listed as a feature, is that good enough for your needs?
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>>58507176
oh wow, you're right, I completely missed it. And yes, it suits them perfectly. I just wonder if I'll miss the 2 additional bays. The 2 3.0 USBs the 416 has over this one aren't really important, I think. 1 3.0 should be enough.

Do you think the 2 bays are super impactful? I mean with 4 I'd be hard pressed to run out of room. Do you have any experience with a 2 bay one?
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>>58507213
the extra bays won't have a whole lot of impact unless you're planning to fill all bays with high capacity drives, but realisticly for most people a single three of four terrorbite drive is more than enough, at leas for the moment and by the time you fill it, they'll likely be higher capacity drives available at lower prices
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>>58507246
I see, I suppose I can still get 8tb at a reasonable price, the only HDDs that seemed to be a tad expensive were the 8tb ones.

Would you say 4tb is a good size/price ratio? just on average
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>>58507301
yeah, also another thing to consider with high capacity drives is the need for more than one so you can backup or risk losing a great deal of hoarded data
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Server is small but easy to keep running. I just shut it down for maintenance and updates for the first time in about a year. (One of the case fans bearings started dying.)

Fractal Node 202 itx case
ASrock H97-mitx
Pentium G3260
2x2GB DDR3-1600mhz
2x4TB Toshiba 7200RPM (4TB usable for movies)
2x2TB (One seagate, one HGST. 2TB usable for music and pictures)
Silverstone SFX 450w gold cert (SFX PSU's should be the golden standard for itx cases btw)

I have mine running windows 7 because of the ease of setting up an incremental weekly backup, and the bundled remote access tools from another machine are simple and easy to use. Sharing my folders over the network are faster too. For some reason on Linux I was lucky to get 45MB/s transfer speed where as in windows I'm getting 125MB/s.
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>>58507332
So, the purchase aside, what should the actual usage of them be like? Do I use both right away, try to fill one and then the second and do I backup everything? Are there any programs to run diagnostics on their overall health like I can with my regular ones using the cute weeb program?
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>>58507372
forgot the spooky. Anyone own 6/8/10 TB drives? Was looking at getting 2x10TB drives. One for redundancy of course.
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Mainly use ESXi for everything.
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>>58505003
>those fans
Damn 1U servers must be hell
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I just have debian running on some old pile of shit from 2003. deluge and apache2 + davfs over ssl. Dug some hard drives out of my drawer and put them in a logical volume. One of them will fail and I'll lose all the data I don't really care about. It's all just tv shows I've seen too many times anyway. You guys need to get real. Stop wasting your money. I can manage my downloads from anywhere and watch from anywhere.
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>>58506850
Can't you afford joint compound?
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>>58507404
Yah never use a 1U unless you really have to.
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I have an HP DC7800 USFF tower with a maxed out CPU. Sadly I can't put in a USB 3 card, so I have 10TB of storage on a USB2 bus. It's main purpose is running plex.
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>>58499634
>shitty PCs

if they are clustered and all have 8800 GTs then anything he wants
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>>58507332
>>58507069
Also I didn't know if this was all one person, but thank you to everyone, this has been super helpful.
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>>58507386
I think if you use both synology uses some kind of raid system, but the drives bays are hot swappable so you could use a second drive for backups and only put it in when making backups and still not have any downtime
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i have a XServe 1U that I use for the storage of drugs, very nice and neat cabinets that lock in place, it's also used for the storage of random memes, music, and movies but it's loud af in operation, a proliant with 4gb of ram and some dual core Xeon chips is used as a backup computer, have these both plus a PDU and Cisco switch on my deskside
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>>58507558
yep, one guy. did a lot of research on this myself because my niece is working towards being a processional photographer, and with everything being digital these days she needs storage that's accessible on the go, and I've had way to many portable drives die on me when actually used as a portable drive to reccomend that to her, and it turns out synology is really easy to set up for access from anywhere, regardless of whether or not you have a static ip
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>>58507642
Thanks, friend. I'll really consider the 216 over the 416, and the NAS HDDs, I was really gonna miss that one. Is WD the best brand there is? It's all I see everywhere.
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>>58502113
>1.5TB disks
wtf are you doing m8
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I'm not a very high level wizard. I only run an atom based pfsense router and a server that mostly just hosts media for myself and my illiterate roommates, but I also use it as a torrent machine and various little things.
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I've just got a netbook doing everything

Its not much but its a huge step up from my old raspberry pi
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I threw this together over the last several months a little at a time. Most of it is all new gear, except for the Ivy Bridge platform I repurposed from my wife's old workstation. I'm just going to wait and see what AMD has to offer in the next couple months, KL is just so underwhelming :(. I have fetish for power efficiency, so that's pretty much the theme of this whole setup. It's fanless, modular, and runs everything a typical home user can throw at it. The only moving part is the server HDD, it's all completely silent and passively cooled. When 4TB SSDs become affordable I plan on replacing the HDD.

This is what it consists of: SB6183 -> Unifi USG -> uBox-111 (64GB mSATA, 4GB RAM) -> Edgerouter X -> Unifi AP-AC-Lite + Raspberry Pi 3 + Home Server (Core i5-3470t, 16GB RAM, 128GB mSATA, 2TB HDD)

>SB6183: Spectrum 75/5
>USG: Routing and inbound VPN
>uBox-111: Sophos XG in transparent firewall mode
>ER-X: In switch mode providing POE to AP-AC-Lite
>RPi3: DietPi running Unifi Controller, Pi-Hole, >Domotz, mDNS, minicom, Z-wave home automation via Home Assistant
>Server: Win10 running Plex, Sonarr, CouchPotato, uTorrent, Nextcloud (in Hyper-V), IIS, FTP, plus other services.
>Case is Akasa Galileo

Power distribution:
>Modem: 8W
>USG: 9W
>uBox: 5W
>ER-X + AP-AC-Lite: 7.5W
>Server: 15W
>RPi3: 0.5W
>Average power usage (all devices): 45W

>Transcoding 3 simultaneous Plex streams (h265 to h264): 60W

I'm thinking of removing the USG since Sophos does routing and VPN, which would drop total power usage to 36W average..

And I just ordered the newly released Unifi Switch 8 60W. I'll also be ordering the Unifi Gen 2 AC when they release it.
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Why people uses swtich in home servers? I'm a little newbie so I can understand mostly all but using a switch in a home.
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>>58508221
Speaking only for myself:

Second hand enterprise grade unmanaged switches can be found for free or very cheaply.

Fancy multiport NICs based on decent chipsets. or embedded devices with several ports based on non-garbage chipsets are going to set you back a few bucks.
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>>58508313
So, the reason in your case, is because you can get them cheap?

I mean, I though there was some profit or perfomance reason.
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>>58508221
when you install rj45 throughout your house, you need a switch.
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>>58508329
Well I can see half of the point there. I though (on my limited knowledge) that switches were only good on big networks.

Or there's something I'm missing?
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>>58508328
some people also get enterprise grade equipment so they can be more familiar with it. most of the time, people don't need managed switches in a home setting, that is unless they have some very unique security or throughput requirement for a bonded internet connection. in which case it would be cheaper and less autistic to just pay for colocation or rent a server in colocation.
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>>58508361
That sounds better for me. It really makes point for me, since I know lot of people could have a lot of device, it was hard for me to think in a number of devices connected through RJ45 enough to make a Switch worth. Thanks kind anons.
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>>58499714
Lackrack
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>>58508356
yes, you are missing something.
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I'd like to git gud on network stuff.
My router is some generic Asus router with non free firmware and my desktop is technically the NAS with its smb shares.
On the router, I'd like to get one with 10gigabit or just build it myself. Install pfsense or configure one from the ground up with a Linux distro.
I'd like to have a dedicated 16TB RAIDz2 NAS or server in the future for extra backups, smb shares, sftp, gaymes, and maybe e-mail. I'm thinking of running Debian or CentOS on it too, maybe some *BSD if I play around with it. Going with Zen might l be cheaper too.
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>>58508431
Would you like to explain it to me, please?
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>>58508458
he's about to tell you about his pointless and unique network requirements
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>>58508458
how else do you link more than one computer together?
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>>58508491
Through my own router or ISPs router I guess. Each one has 4 RJ45 ports, so right know I have 4 from 7 RJ45 ports.

There's also wifi.
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>>58508120
Posts like these make me happy. I really dig how clean and sensible the whole setup looks. You made a lot of really good choices on the equipment. Top notch, lad.
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>>58508356

Switches are good regardless of network size. They break up what is called collision domains. traditionally with something like a hub every device that is connected to it gets flooded with information even if it is not for that device. A switch on the other hand is smart enough and knows exactly which port each device is hooked up to and can deliver that information directly to that device instead of just using the shotgun approach that a hub does. That's is a very low level description of switches at least.
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I have a bunch of spare parts lying around, give me some good reasons to set up my own server
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>>58508508
>4
Exactly, those can get filled fast. I have 6 devices connected at all times and that's just me. My brother has several devices as well and things can get out of hand. A switch solves that problem.
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>>58508508
there's a switch in your isp router. you're using the switch portion.
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>>58508508

Those 4 ports are switching ports. Consumer grade home routers are typically 3 devices combined into 1: Router, switch and access point.
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>>58508564
>>58508566
Yes I know, that's why I wonder if someone, in his home, will reach more than 4 computers through RJ45

>>58508556
Well, of course if you and your brother have more than 7 devices through RJ45 a Switch will be needed.
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>>58508221
Having more than 4 computers wired
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>>58498890
debian server that has a memory leak from some program I can't identify that causes it to randomly hang and refuse SSH connections despite the hard drive activity light flashing.

help
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>>58508551
download server / http source for kodi
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>>58508588
Can you not take a look at h/top and see which program is eating up memory?
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>>58508582
>Yes I know, that's why I wonder if someone, in his home, will reach more than 4 computers through RJ45

yes.
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>>58508582
So, the real question you are asking is why would someone use a home-built router + switch instead of a consumer grade router with the router built in.

Consumer grade routers are fucking dogshit and you have to spend several hundred dollars on one before you can even touch the performance / expandability / features of a sub $100 home built + switch + AP (if that's your thing).

Even then, what you're getting with a consumer router is a proprietary SoC marked up 500%
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>>58508582
i have cat6 cables routed throughout my house. so i bought a cheap 5 port switch.
port in the kitchen, port in the living room behind the tv, upstairs in the den, one behind the tv in the basement, one for a second AP on the second floor, one in the bedroom, one at my desk in the basement.
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>>58508629
*switch built in
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>>58508634
Anon, you just made me very jelly. Your points sounds very understable. What's your for build, out of curiosity?

>>58508629
Yes, exactly, sorry for not explainning right myself. How do you exactly catch that kind of offers about switchers and non-consumer hardware?
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Picked this up used for $70. Ordered a UPS and a 2TB. Going to replace my current raspi 3 set up. Going to use this for plex, personal cloud, and video encoding
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>>58508676
>$70 for nothing
You got cheated
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>>58508672
>What's your for build
What?
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>>58508689
kek forgot pic
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>>58508698
Sorry it is pretty late here. I wanted to ask what are the items that you are using on your home server. Sorry again.
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>>58508672
In the US, Craigslist, government surplus auctions, "liberating" shit they're throwing away where you work, or even just knowing which dumpsters to look in.

A company will throw away something like a 24-port gigabit switch when they upgrade their hardware without even thinking about it.
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>>58508707
i sure hope you're planning on putting a second 2tb in there for a mirroring. otherwise it's essentially a black hole for your data.
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>>58508726
going to be doing regular backups to an external drive.
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>>58508709
my server is just an old pentium 4 with a GB of ram. it runs debian. i have deluged/deluge-web and apache2/mod_davfs over ssl. using a noip free domain so i can access all my media and control my downloads from anywhere. just using kodi on a raspi and transdroid on my phone.
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Any recommendations for a router? Used is probably the best cost effective method, but I'd like more alternatives.
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>>58508715
I heard that some times but maybe I should try harder to get them. Here in Spain companies save even the shit they do.

>>58508754
So you have that beside the switch?
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How do you backup your huge drive arrays? Is tape a meme or is there a way to make it cheaper than just buying several big capacity drives?
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>>58498890
>How are you serving your home?
- Openvpn/shadowsocks servers on VPS, shadowsocks clients on phones/tablets, openvpn/shadowsocks client on router and openvpn/shadowsocks client on desktop (because router is slow).
- 2Tb hdd for local timemachine backups, VPS with 1Tb storage and openvpn/netatalk for cloud timemachine backups.
- 3Tb hdd with transmission and otomatic for pirating
- Aplel cal/carddav server
- Syncthing (syncing android filesystem with desktop)
And that's it. I tried messing around with plex, home assistant, nextcloud and different torrent snapping tools but they all were a disappointment.
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>>58508801
>I tried messing around with plex, home assistant, nextcloud and different torrent snapping tools but they all were a disappointment.
I don't like plex at all, it feels like too much of a clutter. I'd rather just use smb shares on the local network and an sftp server for outside use.
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What's you guys' opinion on Kodi? I heard it got a lot better.

Also before are what are some good routers for a basic media home server?
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>>58507422
looks like a closet, they're not always finished, esp in basements where this kid probably lives
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>>58508827
plex is only useful if you have one subnet and good upload.

if your plex server is on a different subnet than your player, it will go out to internet and then back in because apparently plex users are too dumb to know about ip addresses
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>>58509032
>it will go out to internet and then back
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>>58509063
He's not wrong. Your plex server at home will stream to a server owned by plex and then to your plex client in that situation
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>>58507401
>see that telltale diagonal handle-over-the-fan but am thrown off by the fact there's not too of them
>Catalyst 4500
Ahh yes.. My senses do not fail me.

The fuck are you doing in your HOUSE with a Cat4500 running presumably 24/7?? Is it like, all of your router and firewall and switching? lol Like that's some serious fuckin' hardware.
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>>58508120
Great setup here, these are the posts I come here to see. Sensible, efficient home network solutions that a normal person could afford, implement, and maintain. Nice. I can see getting a bit crafty if you're a network guy and playing around but for the actual production network of your house you don't need more than this really.
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Okay /g/hst,

Cisco 1841? Or pfsense on a laptop in a vm?
Just going to be doing nat and dhcp on a 60mbps connection.
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>>58509211
just get a linksys ea 2700 or something then
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>>58509211
just a 60mb/s connection?
get a $20 router and stick 3rd party firmware on it
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>>58509238
That's gay.
This is also just going to be supplying wifi. Which is why I'm leaning towards an 1841 and a ubiquiti ap.
Or maybe pick up an old SonicWall?
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>>58499545
just backup offline with magnetic tape
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>>58509270
It already has a $20 router, it loses 10mbps right off the bat, and is utter garbage.
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>>58509283
just get something normal, you obviously do not need anything fancy. no one cares how fast your fucking internet speed is when all you do is nat.

maybe if you needed to actually define firewall rules and do vlans you would have a reason, but you dont
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>>58509112
wow, plex sounds like shit
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>>58508801
What GUI is that?
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>>58509307
Well yeah, but that doesn't sound like a bunch of rack mount gear leaning up against the wall in the main room for the roommates to question.
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>>58498890
The only time I would have that many computers running at once if I lived low income housing where government coves the electricity bill.
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>>58501006
>implying I care about doing tech for normies in exchange for some shekels

No thanks.
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Sorry for the mess.

>Stock firmware asus job for router
I'd like to replace this with a PC but can't afford to yet
>Some small form factor normie desktop running Debian
Borrowing from a friend to run JewSpeak and a website for my friends, feelsgoodman to have fastest, lowest latency and best reliability connection of my circles
>Cubieboard 1, 1GB running Arch Linux ARM and mainline kernel and mainline U-Boot
http for lan and my personal "website" on the Internet, DHCP and DNS (for lan hosts), dynamic DNS script
It's running with a 1TB WD blue 2.5" drive with modified cable to run off of a different psu than the board for stability reasons.

Future addition will be a Windows gaming server when I move it out of sight, I'd like to have a silent and small Intel GPU Linux box capable of light games and in-home streaming
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>>58509117

Oh it's overkill to the max but I wanted a good quality 48 port gigabit POE switch and even a used on eBay is almost $400. For less than $200 I got the 4503-E chassis, POE-capable power supply, supervisor module and 48 port gigabit POE line card. It doesn't even use that much more power than something like a 48 port 3750G.
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>>58499545
holy fuckin shit nigga what case
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>>58509369 https://home-assistant.io/
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>>58509706
>Home Assistant is an open-source home automation platform running on Python 3

uhh.../g/ told me python isn't a programming language
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>>58509720
>uhh...
Remove yourself.
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>>58509760
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Show me some router builds. What can I get away with if I want 100mbit, 1gigabit, 10gigabit, etc.? Do you buy a wireless access point or use expansion cards for it?
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>>58508801
was about to rag on your lack of graphs and n33t analytic plug-ins by saying:
>needs moar rice
...then I saw the sheer number of chinkphones connected in your household

This ordeal made me deeply upset.
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>>58508827
Plex is pretty shitty, proprietary and unnecessary.
Sharing is just better, my only problem is that I haven't been able to find a way to mount ftp shares as real drives in Windows (ftp feature is unreliable and doesn't even work with programs such as media players). Smb shares over Internet seems to work well when there's no firewall ruining it tho
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>>58500833
lolno

But thanks for playing.
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Yeah, I know, I need to finish cleaning my office.

> Switch
Dell X1018P
Gigabit managed + PoE. Makes AP and phone placement much easier.

> Laptop slab
Latitude E6320
i7 2620m
4GB RAM
250GB SSD
2x USB BDROM
2x DVD
Server 2016 Standard (because PowerShell management stuffs)

Management console and movie ripping (MakeMKV).

> PowerEdge T620
2x Xeon 2660 V1
256GB RAM
2x PNY CS1311 120GB SSD - OS
4x PNY CS1311 480GB SSD - Fast tier
12x Hitachi A7K3000 3TB HDD - Slow tier
Server 2016 Datacenter (because AVMA)

Drives are configured using tiered storage in Storage Spaces. Runs Plex transcoding and two dozen VM's, mostly for testing. Looking at moving lab and production workload to some R620's, and using the T620 just for Plex transcoding.

> DL 380 G5
2x Xeon 5440
64GB RAM
8x 300GB 15K SAS HDD
Server 2012 R2 Datacenter (because AVMA)

This is production service, and I'm getting paid to keep it running. VM workload is largely the 2012 R2 equivalent of Small Business Server
2x domain controller
1x Exchange 2013
1x SharePoint Foundation 2013 & TFS Express 2015
1x application server
1x development VM
1x Untangle 12.x firewall

> Lack rack
It's the only exception I've found to the rule of "Never do what /g/ says"
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>>58504530
See >>58503321.

>>58506929
It's not a copypasta though. It's just my current server, my new server is >>58502780
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>>58500833
This. There's no way you faggots need those boxes. Stop jerking yourself off with how cool you feel that you're running your own "server". It's just a fucking computer. With the time you spend on it you're the one serving it, not the other way round.
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>>58510552
Envy is a harsh mistress.
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>>58510552
Because fuck you...
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>>58498890
I'm poorfag networking in poorfag ways.

Core2 E6600 system with 8GB ram running ESXi. 4tb via 4x2TB drives in RAID10 with a 60GB SSD for boot. A couple of external 1TB drives for additional storage.

Machines:
pfsense for firewall and router (Comcast 100/25)
Debian for personal shell and tunneling
Debian for file serving (samba), local backups and cloud backups
Tiny Windows 7 for torrenting (via a VPN, of course). Saves to samba shares. Will be wiped in favor of another debian VM for torrenting soon.
One other debian VM for accessing and backing up to external drives.

I'm just barely starting to become familiar with Linux mostly thanks to you fuckers. A couple years ago, that same machine would have been all windows VMs.
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Hi guys, I know /g/ isn't a tech support thread but I just boned my mediaserver. If any data recovery gurus are lurking here please check out >>>/wsr/252019 please.
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I built a DIY home server a few years ago for buld file storage but ended up replacing it with an actual server chassis 2 years ago now.

Now it's a VM host that runs 4 guests running various things for the house and some external stuff.

Server: ESXi 6 host
Dell R515, 2x 4-core Xeons, 64gb RAM, 8x 2tb RE4 drives in RAID5 +1 hotspare. Modded in an SSD for the ESXi install and fast storage.

Switch: Adtran 1638w/ SFP add-in card (got some fiber stuff ordered to mess with)

The router is something I need to replace.
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This is my server, it's just an ATX machine right now with a few drives for a few tasks like NAS/Media Server/Owncloud etc

As for why it has all the ram, I recently moved over to DDR4 and I had even more spare RAM just lying around my house so I chucked it in there for kicks. It'd be sitting in a cupboard otherwise.
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>>58511081
24GB memory isn't a lot. See >>58502972. Hell, >>58503321 is my current server, and that has more memory.
>ATX machine
What does this even mean? ATX is a form factor for motherboards and, arguably, powersupplies.
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>>58511103
It's a lot of ram for what it actually does, none of which is terribly ram intensive (I think the most RAM I've ever seen it use it like 3GB tops)

ATX machine as just being an ATX tower as opposed to a rackmount.
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>tfw no free space
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>>58511155
Damn son what are you keeping in there?
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>>58511156
Media and PC backups.
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Just bought a house and is preparing for 300/300 fiber throughout the place.
I'm planning to go cat6 from modem to a 16 port switch and then wire the whole place with cat6 from that switch to walled-in dataports.
But how have you guys wired up your network? And do you have a recommendation for a good 16 port switch?
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>>58511155
See >>58502022, specifically:
>72.8 TB
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>>58500530
Hallo
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>>58511178
300/300Mbps FTTH for the WAN NIC on router, 1Gbps CAT6 on LAN NIC?
Assuming you're going 1000Base-T and not 10GBase-T, the D-Link DGS-1100-16 is perfectly servicable.
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>>58499860
>RAID5
>4x4TB
Enjoy your 10^14.
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>>58511299
Would love to wire my house for 10GBase-T, but I'll stick with 1000Base-T for now.
That switch was already on my list of potential candidates, so I'll definitely consider buying it.
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I got a Dell PowerEdge 430, 2x8core 2.4GHZ, 128GB RAM. It runs a few line of business VMs and the web site, but honestly it could do the same thing for ten other small businesses before I'd see the thing sweat. Also got a 32GB 4-core system mid-sized with 9 drives. Everything runs Windows, after my experiment running NAS4Free I just choked on the incompatibilities with Windows file shares and my lack of knowledge speaking Neckbeardinese means I can only do Windows and I am forever d00med to asking people "Venti or Grande?"
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>>58511273
There's no point wasting money on enterprise drives when you have redundancy, as long as you don't buy utter trash drives.

That reminds me. One time at a LAN party a guy rocks up with his shiny new NAS setup. 150TB using WD Greens on RAID5, the absolute madman.
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>>58511356
I'm in my 40s, have no loans against me or my house, have no dependents, and earn +$130k/year as a tier1 SP network engineer. I'll bloody well buy enterprise drives for my storage if I want to, because I don't trust spinning rust enough and would rather have 10^15 for URE than 10^14 or 10^13.
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>>58511608
Even if I do use LTO6 tapes for backup, having to restore +60TB from backup is gonna take for fucking ever.
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My server basically does 2 jobs as a music producer.

-Handles backups from my hackintosh and macbook via carbon copy cloner that are copied on a hourly basis. Time machine fucking hates SMB so i gave up using that shit.

-Runs some cobbled together software that sends audio over the network via a VST to a series of linux VMs that auto cuts up the audio based on silence detection so i can quickly generate sample libraries for making music.

I built it for like 150 bucks CAD. Its some dual low power 1366s with 16gb ECC, I plan to save some money to build a RaidZ Array so i dont have to worry too much about my data.

I don't really need it for making music, but it was a fun project in learning VM software and linux. I would never go full autismo like the retards at r/homelab where they run every fucking service under the sun for no fucking reason.
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Anyone who has some resources in object storage like ceph? Want to get into it because it seems to ease scaling and fault tolerance a lot, but I do not find any decent introduction to it.
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>>58511608
>tier1
>40s

Oh boy. What happened?
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>>58508707
Get an x5650, x5670 or x5690 for it.

You're welcome.

I went with x5650. Any ideas for psu adapter? That psu isnt atx so if you want to replace it or get a better one, you'll need an adapter. Or make on yourself.
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>>58508763
Fuck thats expensive. I ran pfsense for years with a cheap chinese mini-itx box which I got off aliexpress. It has dual intel gbit lan, but it shat itself after two years of use. Now I'm going to virtualize pfsense with a quad gbit intel card.
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>>58511155
Damn. I sure wish I had extra storage. Cheap high capacity SSDs feel so far away.
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>>58500833
Guess how I know you're 14.
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>>58500833
This.

I'm using an old ass 2nd gen EEE for VPN, mail, torrents, file server (media), backups, etc.
Never failed me and it disperses only 13W at the socket, idle.
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4TB HDDs are still the way to go for a decently sized array, right? I'm thinking of grabbing 6-8 for an array that should last me a while. Also, any decently priced tape or tape drives?
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>>58500218
kek'd
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For those of you that have built their own routers, how much more shekels are you paying per year compared to grabbing some underpowered cheapo router/accesspoint from out there? I'm looking at about ten times the power consumption per year just by building it myself from newish parts and that's not including the wireless access point. That or I'm overly overestimating the power consumption of the build.
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>>58511280
Hallo. Kent u mij uit de nederdraad?
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>>58513974

Try this thread

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Business-PCs-Workstations-and-Point-of-Sale-Systems/HP-Z400-Power-Supply/m-p/5041443
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>>58513998
Just look on craigslist for intel atom boards, i picked up my Pfsense machine mobo for 40 dollars with ram and a power supply, i had a miniPCIe NIC and thats all you need.
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>>58514697
You need very little processing power for a router, my router runs at like 12% CPU during VPN and torrenting and it uses 12watts full tilt.

Look up how much you are paying for power in your area and throw it into a calculator. A 50watt box is going to cost like 13 dollars a year for even the worst rates for electricity like europe. Its really not worth dropping real money on some ultra low power machine if you already have a more than capable machine laying around.

Do the math on what the cheapest low power board is going to cost you, i bet 100 bucks that its going to take 5+ years to pay off that board with electricity savings.

Electricity is literal pennies in most parts of the world, to the point where its not even worth caring about. The only time it gets to be a problem is if you are running baseboard heaters 24/7 and water heaters. Don't let the eco-jew think you need to change your hardware.
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>>58515660
>A 50watt box is going to cost like 13 dollars a year
My electricity costs are retarded, it usually fluctuates in $0.25-$0.30/kWh but it can get even worse. A year has about 8670hours meaning 8670hr * 0.05kW = 438kWh so I'm looking at $109.5-$131.4 per year on the absolute worst case of running it at full load for the entire year and also not counting fluctuations in peak hours. Even so, I understand what you mean, it's not going to pull that much all the time. I put up some parts together, but I don't know how much it will consume in the end. It's just something I'm putting up on a whim, maybe I'll end up picking up a Zen APU next year or something like that.
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>>58513904
No, one of the ones listed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network#List_of_tier_1_networks
Basically the backbone of the entire internet.

>>58514697
Realtalk, unless you're looking to route 1/1Gbps with NAT overload and firewalling with more than two rules, any low-power CPU can do excellently. I've heard of several people throwing pfsense on http://www.pcengines.ch/apu2c4.htm and achieving 500/500Mbps with all kinds of traffic including L2TP/IPsec VPN with AES-GCM-128 as the encryption (since the encryption is done through AES-NI on the CPU and GCM is especially designed for packetized data).
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>>58516003
The GX-412TC that I mentioned in >>58516012 is 6W TDP.
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>>58516012
>>58516026
That board looks neat.
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How do you guys deal with leaving your servers on 24/7 when you're out of the house?

I shit myself if I forget to unplug my porn-serving RPi, let alone something with actual power-draw (though that's mostly due to my distrust of shitty chinese transformers).
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>>58516196
Why?
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>>58516196

House fires.
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>>58516196
Well, I live in a country that's not literally the 3rd world and has an actual powergrid that's not shit, and electricians who're not shit at their job - but beyond that, I have my server on an UPS.

If you're so paranoid, why do you think you being home matters? If a fire's gonna start from electricity, you being home means nothing.
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>>58508582
>Yes I know, that's why I wonder if someone, in his home, will reach more than 4 computers through RJ45

Lol. No. Everyone on /g/ has a laptop and an old smart phone. There's no reason to have a switch. Nobody here even has a raspberry pi. They're all liars.

Pic related.
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>>58509112

Kind of. Plex maintains SSL certs on their back end to encrypt traffic to your client device. Your server uses the same cert to connect to Plex's back end, then your clients connected with the same cert. So you have security end to end.

If you have multiple vlans/subnets and you don't want a hairpin for your plex traffic, put a new route in your plex server so that it knows it can get to the other subnet without going to 0.0.0.0/0.
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>>58499756
Yes then the controller dies and you are screwed.
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>>58516313

The Australian power grid is absolutely terrible, any time the weather isn't perfectly moderate it'll shit itself.

That, combined with a distrust of chinese electronics parts and manufacturing, makes me worry. I guess an UPS would solve half that issue.

>why do you think you being home matters?

I can save the photo albums if I'm home ;_;
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>>58502363
Yes
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>>58509606

LOL. Nortel 5520s are $50 for 48 PoE ports and 2 SFP ports in a 1U package. I guarantee they pull fewer watts than the 4500s.
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>>58516668
Fair point. I have everything digitized and backed up to both off-site location via LTO6 tapes and to a SpiderOak unlimited account.
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>>58510552

SourGrapes.webm
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Anyone know what servers Facebook or Google use?
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thought about using old computer for pfsense but an intel nic with 2 ports is at least half the price of a new router so probably just going to get an ubiquiti edgerouter lite, thoughts?
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>>58516919
They use a commodity stack. Basically whatever is the cheapest at the moment that meets their compute/storage requirements. I believe it's usually dell cloud servers but not always. Same with Azure.
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>>58508120
Did you post this on Homelab aswell? i feel like i have seen that setup before.
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>>58517077
>thought about using old computer for pfsense but an intel nic with 2 ports is at least half the price of a new router so probably just going to get an ubiquiti edgerouter lite, thoughts?

The Ubiquiti route/switch line are garbage. Their USG and routers offer almost no features that come standard in pfSense.
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>>58517081
>I believe it's usually dell cloud servers but not always. Same with Azure.
Azure G1 servers were HP SE316M1/SE326M1 mostly. I think the 4 socket systems were DL580's, though I'm not sure those were used for Azure in the end.

Last I heard, the OpenCompute modules were going to be standard for the G3/G4 Azure stuff, because scale and price.
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>>58517103
really? i've heard mostly good things about ubiquiti
both are probably overkill for my needs but i still need something as my isp given modem/router shits the bed sometimes

is there something in the $50-120 range that is good bang for buck then? 1-3 computers, i've got a switch already
i don't really consider using my old computer for pfsense a viable solution as it takes up a lot of space and i would need to get said nic and some sort of storage
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>>58517103
There is a price difference between pfsense box and edgerouter lite for example.
ERL is ~80 euro's and can handle 1Gbit/s with a very small power draw.
That's a great deal if you only want to route traffic around and don't care about other features.
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>>58515390
Thanks, I've glanced that album a few times over the years. Those are some shitty instructions, though. "This is what you have to make", geez

I'm going to replace w3530 with x5650 in a few months time. It's gonna end up being a virtualization testbed in my lab. I've had the z400 since new and it has served all kinds of roles, but as w3530 is a pretty shitty cpu, actually I forgot the z400 in the garage for a few years. Now that x3650's are cheap as shit I decided to put the old faithful for good use.
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Hey, /g/.

I've been thinking of building a small NAS for a while now, im probably just going to buy some cheap second hand home PC and slam some extra components in it. I was thinking of slapping 5 x 2TB WD Reds in RAID 6.

As you can probably tell as much of a neckbeard that i am i've never actually built something like this before. Is software raid as bad as it sounds? If so, recommendations on a RAID card? Any other tips would be appreciated too, especially on the drives.

Note: I do ameture photography so redundancy is important. It's a miracle i've not lost everything sooner.
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>>58517173
>Azure G1 servers were HP SE316M1/SE326M1 mostly. I think the 4 socket systems were DL580's, though I'm not sure those were used for Azure in the end.
>Last I heard, the OpenCompute modules were going to be standard for the G3/G4 Azure stuff, because scale and price.

Maybe. The last time I was in an Azure DC was before they debut'ed gov cloud.
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>>58517644
>The last time I was in an Azure DC
Mind sharing which one? I spent a lot of time racking and cabling in Columbia before moving to TK5.
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>>58517242
>really? i've heard mostly good things about ubiquiti
>both are probably overkill for my needs but i still need something as my isp given modem/router shits the bed sometimes
>is there something in the $50-120 range that is good bang for buck then? 1-3 computers, i've got a switch already
>i don't really consider using my old computer for pfsense a viable solution as it takes up a lot of space and i would need to get said nic and some sort of storage

Ubiquiti is now making some great WAPs. They don't have any Layer 3 switches due to the tiny ARP cache they include even on their edge switch line. They have a nice virtual contoller interface for the Unifi line but it requires all inter-vlan traffic to traverse a 1gig connection to a USG and back. Even their new 10 gig switch is only layer 2.

If you go with pfSense on an old device you have 0 costs. It's free. If you can find an old laptop it'll be low power and more than capable. It is extremely customizable in ways the USGs will never be. If you just need to route and don't need security the edge router works.
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>>58516012
>I've heard of several people throwing pfsense on http://www.pcengines.ch/apu2c4.htm

oh neat, why haven't I seen that board before. I would've bought multiple.

Oh well, I'm now on my way virtualizing the pfsense with kvm-qemu on my server. It's always on anyway so no extra costs, other than $25 what the intel quad gbit nic cost. I have pretty shitty 100/20M internet so it's not like it's going to be a bottleneck, and on the other hand the host pc has a 4790 with a raid10 array.

>>58515473
>Just look on craigslist for intel atom boards
No craigslist for yuropoors :(

If I lived in the states I'd have a proper xeon build in my homelab and I'd drive a luxury sedan, as people with my job title make $200k easy there.
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>>58517306

>That's a great deal if you only want to route traffic around and don't care about other features.

That's the key. Most people will never need a pure router. They want a security device.
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>>58517674
>Mind sharing which one? I spent a lot of time racking and cabling in Columbia before moving to TK5.

It was the VA portion of gov cloud before it was released. Never went to Ohio. It was really just "here look at all our flashy lights and security, NOW YOU BUY!"
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>>58517718
>oh neat, why haven't I seen that board before. I would've bought multiple.
>Oh well, I'm now on my way virtualizing the pfsense with kvm-qemu on my server. It's always on anyway so no extra costs, other than $25 what the intel quad gbit nic cost. I have pretty shitty 100/20M internet so it's not like it's going to be a bottleneck, and on the other hand the host pc has a 4790 with a raid10 array.

The PCengines boards are low compute capable. You cannot run snort and the only way you get any kind of VPN capability is through accessory card.
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>>58517717
>>58517735
it has a firewall, what else do you really need? serious question i'm actually curious
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>>58502022
And here i thought that i went overboard with my setup

6700K Windows running Vmware Workstation->ESXi->Sophos Router/Firewall, it takes 3min to get internet after i reboot my machine.
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>>58517756
>Never went to Ohio
Columbia is in eastern Washington. About 4 hours east of Seattle.

And yes, that sounds like a Microsoft data center tour.
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>>58517775
>it has a firewall, what else do you really need? serious question i'm actually curious

It provides stateful filtering through NAT which is as little as you can do and call yourself a firewall. It has no IPS, DPI, layer 7 filtering, geographic filtering, layer 3 filtering, etc. There's a lot to be done that you'll never do with a ERL or USG.
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>>58517800
>>Never went to Ohio
>Columbia is in eastern Washington. About 4 hours east of Seattle.
>And yes, that sounds like a Microsoft data center tour.

Yeah, gov cloud is Ohio and Virginia.
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>>58517773
>You cannot run snort and the only way you get any kind of VPN capability is through accessory card.

Oh, I'm going to run snort. Didn't even think about it. On that vpn side, I run my own openvpn server virtualized. works extremely well.
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>>58498890

t. guy who went to my company's dumpster at night
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>>58517795
>6700K Windows running Vmware Workstation->ESXi->Sophos Router/Firewall, it takes 3min to get internet after i reboot my machine.
Why are you running a desktop processor?
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>>58499931
Why tapes? HDDs are cheaper and actually more durable.
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If a server is for sharing services, but you are the only client, then why?

I guess if it's a hobby OK.
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>>58517894
Because it's my only machine, really wanted Sophos + virtualization + Dota
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>>58517828
right, i guess it depends on what you need, if you don't have anything public facing you don't need all that
i suppose i could get an intel nic and set up pfsense but all new ones cost >100€ and outside of europe i'll have to pay customs
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>>58517848
>Oh, I'm going to run snort. Didn't even think about it. On that vpn side, I run my own openvpn server virtualized. works extremely well.

Just be aware of what you're going to need to run Snort in search method AC.

Find search method in this doc.
http://manual-snort-org.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/node16.html
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What would I even do with a server that I can't do with my PC. I do the get it. I have media, and backups already. I can remote in with TeamViewer. I can stream via Plex....Wtf do I need a server for?
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>>58517919
You can't be this retarded.
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>>58517935
>Because it's my only machine, really wanted Sophos + virtualization + Dota

Holy shit. Are you running this in a type 2 hypervisor? Are you black?
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>>58517990
>if you don't have anything public facing you don't need all that

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA wew lad. Perhaps you should stick to console gaming? It's not uncommon to be subject to 10,000 bot attacks a day by just having a public IP address. Your shitty ISP firewall is insufficient protection so doubling up and buying another shitty firewall that works the same way is just dumb.

It's your identity though. So have fun losing your data.
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>>58518012
>Implying blacks can use a computer
>>58518012
>Are you running this in a type 2 hypervisor?
yes, i got some unresolved issues with some packet loss when i RDP back home, but i'll figure it out someday.
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>>58517990
>>100€ and outside of europe i'll have to pay customs

Europe is so fucked and they don't even know it. Between this mindset, not seeing the problem and now the invasion, you guys are going to be more fucked than you were in 1946.
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>>58518056
>>Implying blacks can use a computer

http://www.voice-online.co.uk/article/talented-11-year-old-joshua-ngoka-builds-computer

>>58518056
>yes, i got some unresolved issues with some packet loss when i RDP back home, but i'll figure it out someday.

Jesus, just dedicate a computer to a type 1 hypervisor.
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>>58518088
>nigger made it to the news for assembling LEGO
fucking kek

y waste money for extra metal + electricity + noise, but yeah, i'll do it.
so far the only downside is having to wait 3min after restart.
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>>58518129
>y waste money for extra metal + electricity + noise, but yeah, i'll do it.
>so far the only downside is having to wait 3min after restart.

You said you weren't black. Why are you acting black?
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>>58518153
I SAID I'LL DO IT
DON'T PUSH ME BRO

my neighbor just bought a Server and put ESXi on the metal, i'll see how i can put a Sophos to serve both of us, and if it'll even work well over a 60M long cable
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>>58518045
i don't have a console and don't really play video games
maybe you should give me a realistic scenario where a bot attack does something clearly bad so i can learn something, pretend i have a firewall that drops all new incoming connections
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>>58518228
>i don't have a console and don't really play video games
>maybe you should give me a realistic scenario where a bot attack does something clearly bad so i can learn something, pretend i have a firewall that drops all new incoming connections

Maybe you should do your own homework? You don't understand how the internet works yet you're arrogant on the subject.

I suggest you do some research on bot traffic that masquerades as stateful traffic. It'll blow through your shit firewall like it's not even there. Then you're made part of a bot net, have your identity stolen, or your files cryptolocked.
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>>58518341
if this was such a huge issue where if you don't run all of those things you're part of the botnet then everyone and their mother would be part of the botnet
if something manages to run arbitrary code on your computer then you're kind of fucked anyway
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>>58509662
Lian-Li PC-Q25. It is somewhat inconvenient tho. Since I must know where my HDD rails and screws are. If it used trays or caddies, those could just sit in the machine when not used.
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>>58518000
I am, now educate me.
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>>58518516
Narrow minded,

Image i have 10 devices to do various shit for me, that's enough.
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What do you guys use to remote into your servers and control the desktop if you have one? Linux, specifically.
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>>58518877
ssh? What else would you use?
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>>58518491
>if this was such a huge issue where if you don't run all of those things you're part of the botnet then everyone and their mother would be part of the botnet
>if something manages to run arbitrary code on your computer then you're kind of fucked anyway

Yeah, pretty much. Why do you think so many people have their identities stolen?
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>>58518899
I meant graphical.

There used to only be RDP and VNC, but now there is also SPICE and I don't know what else.
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>>58518877
I keep openvpn session open to my home network when I'm at work and vice versa when I'm home. I can conveniently ssh or vnc to any of my servers/workstations.

x11vnc on boot, like this http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=8984
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>>58519010
>Why do you think so many people have their identities stolen
they use windows xp without service packs on internet explorer 6 or download and run random executables from the internet?
im just saying that a simple firewall is probably enough for someone running an up to date os with 2% market share
anyhow i'll look into pfsense some more, can't hurt and if i can find a nic it's cheaper and probably more useful than a router with a simple firewall
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>>58519127
>>Why do you think so many people have their identities stolen
>they use windows xp without service packs on internet explorer 6 or download and run random executables from the internet?
>im just saying that a simple firewall is probably enough for someone running an up to date os with 2% market share
>anyhow i'll look into pfsense some more, can't hurt and if i can find a nic it's cheaper and probably more useful than a router with a simple firewall

No, you should continue using a shitty firewall.

That anon tries to help you and you're a dick. You get what you deserve.
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>>58517828
>spout nonsense
ERL isn't built for that, IPS is an important feature the rest is basically useless for consumers.
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>>58517515
I'm only going to use mine for as a basic file server/plex/nextcloud as well as video encoding, so hopefully the W3520 will be good enough. Took me ~2 hours to encoding a blu ray rip of The Force Awakens. Seems kind of slow ,but I can probably slap a GPU on there and use hardware video encoding.
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>>58520309
Just curious what settings you used to encode
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>>58520112
>>spout nonsense
Exactly what was nonsense?

>>58520112
>ERL isn't built for that,
I know. That's why I made the post with the warning.

>>58520112
>IPS is an important feature the rest is basically useless for consumers.
Do you not filter ads at your gateway? Do you not block cryptolockers at your gateway? Do you not do the rest of that shit at your gateway? GTFO of my g, faggot.
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Why the fuck do you need those?

I have an Odroid with 3TB Seagate external drive attached. And it serves all my needs (samba, e-mail, cloud, torrentbox and kodi player) well...
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>>58520449
Enjoy your throttle.
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