Why do we still cling to this shit? If motherboard manufacturers

>>58480619
why does it have 2 s-video outputs?

NKRO

You actually wouldn't have extra USB ports.
You clearly do not understand the way that any of this works (How USB headers work, the fact that the PS/2 data is still going to be on the chipset).

Maybe you should kill yourself, it'd free up oxygen for those of us who can read. Maybe we can replace the space you occupy with more USB ports.

>>58480631
How often are you pressing more than 6 keys at once?

Because there are mice and keyboards, from the era when mice and keyboards were built to last a century, still in existence.

>>58480650
>You actually wouldn't have extra USB ports.
There is nothing stopping them from adding another USB controller and putting some extra ports in the place of a PS/2 port. In fact many motherboard already do this.

>the fact that the PS/2 data is still going to be on the chipset
Oh? Educate me then.

>>58480650
Lmao

>>58480650
OP BTFO

>>58480651
How often are you using 8+ USB devices at the same time?

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>>58480627
S-Video uses mini din plug, as well as PS/2.

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I need this ports for my servers OP. So fuck off (You)

>>58480703
I'm using 5 right now. If I plugged in a charging cable for my phone and 2 USB drives I'd be using 8.
I have a Model M, so I've literally NEVER had to press more than 3 keys at once, excluding the modifiers.

>>58480703
>>58480631
Game Developer here, we need to press more than 6 buttons at a time and have 13 android shitphones connected to one PC. PS/2 is a superior keyboard port to usb, just google it.

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>>58480619
Man please, motherboards already come with more USB ports than you'll ever need anyway, along with the ones on your front panel.

>>58480619
2 free charging ports for phones, tablets, usable as power source for HDDs, UMTS dongles or USB DVD writers that require 2 USB ports. All you need is a PS/2 to USB adapter. Not data but a perfectly fine 5V charging port. ATX boards are large as fuck, I don't mind having them.

I use 5 USB ports for the power alone already, the PS/2 port comes in handy.

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>>58480619
>I don't need it so nobody should have it

>>58480650
you could put USB hubs nothing special with them

>>58480619
My PC's motherboard has the dual tone one. While I don't use it, it doesn't bother me at all. What's your problem with it??

no 1 cares, nerd

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>>58480793
shit nigga thanks for the #lifehack

But then you'd use the usb ports to connect your mouse and keyboard, so isn't the same amount of free ports in the end + the fact that now you won't have the advantages of PS/2.

have an adapter to it for my keyboard btc-5100c.

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>>58480793
>>58480733

>he charges his devices from his PC

Seriously. Why?

Go get a multi-USB wall charger if you have more than 1 device that needs charging via USB. Faster charging, not killing your own PC, not about to start house-fires with your shitty case/motherboard's wiring/tin whiskers, and plenty more room for things that actually need high-speed digital I/O in 2017. Like external, wall-powered, HDDs for backups. Or loading software and information onto flash drives. And connecting to debug kits and cameras.

>>58480619
I bet you clapped when manufacturers started removing serial ports, fag.

>>58480619
Many motherboards now don't have any PS/2 ports or have a single one that can be used for either keyboard or mouse.

Part of the reason of clinging to it is because it can be used easily without the driver support that USB requires in cases of diagnostic emergency.

>>58480869
Because most wall chargers don't deliver a clean 5v and will often over deliver in amperage which harms the batteries in the long run.

A computer provides a pretty clean 5v at around 500mA most of the time, so it is perfect for slow charging batteries when you can afford to leave them plugged in for long periods of time.

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>>58480650
goddamn son

>>58480869
>not about to start house-fires with your shitty case/motherboard's wiring/tin whiskers
And this is actual bullshit.

>>58480922
>>58480679
You can stop samefagging now.

>>58480619
the real question is: why so many motherboards don't have these superior things?

>>58480650
Most of the USB controllers on your motherboards are underutilized.
Open up Device Manager, expand Universal Serial Bus controllers and look in the Properties for the USB Root Hubs that you have in the list.
In the power tab in the description it usually shows the number of ports available and what you'll probably find is that you will have more ports available than you have physical ports.

>>58480619
Because windows 7 doesn't support USB peripherals OOTB

>>58480988
You can stop trying now OP

>>58481017
xD

>>58480988
>PS/2 is a superior keyboard port to usb
what about the ps/2 for mouse then?

Fact: USB can do N-Key RollOver.
Fact: USB 3.0+ supports interrupt signaling
There are no more advantages of PS/2 over USB 3

>>58480746
>Game Developer here, we need to press more than 6 buttons at a time
No problem with decent USB keyboards.

>>58480619
they're not even any good. not enough current for my model m.

>>58480627
kek'd

>>58480650
hot fucking damn son

>>58481034
I didn't say that PS/2 is superior to USB for keyboards.

In fact, Windows, at the least, doesn't even support Plug'n'Play on the PS/2 port, which means that removing or plugging in a new device on the port requires a reboot.

The only advantage it has is that you can use that port without the complex drivers required for your USB controllers, which means that simple diagnostic programs can be made to run in basic operating system, like DOS,

>>58481217
>I didn't say that PS/2 is superior to USB for keyboards.
except you literally said that

>>58480619
NKRO, and mech keyboard enthusiasts

>>58481233
You should read his post again.

>>58480650
That post may go straight to /g/ stupidity exhibition.
>>58480988
This. Usually there are at least two USB2 headers on a motherboard which can serve up to two ports each.

>>58481238
NRKO can be achieved with USB keyboards using the latest standard. Most BIOS's should support it by now.

>>58481250
>That post may go straight to /g/ stupidity exhibition.
Sup OP?

>>58481242
okay yes, my mistake. wanted to quote this guy in my first reply:
>>58480746

>>58480758
i have all of my usb ports being used...
should upgrade with more front ones but i'm cheap.

I usually just rely on the usb keyboard support code in the BIOS/UEFI. Never used these ports for at least a decade.

>>58480650
You seem like a very vicious person.

I can't imagine that you have a lot of friends.

I think there's a security reason. A malicious device could look like a USB storage drive while telling the computer it's a keyboard, and be able to execute code and maybe even log keystrokes. Some organizations fill USB ports with glue and use PS/2 keyboards and mice to avoid that.

>>58481386
can you name a place doing that?
i have yet to see that being a thing

>>58480619
How many USB ports do you fucking need? I have eight, count them, EIGHT, on my board, and only four (FOUR) are plugged in (mouse, keyboard, controller, printer), and out of those, I only use the first two on a daily basis.

Because USB is a piece of shit.
>serial bus when parallel is objectively superior
>inherently a security threat as evidenced by BadUSB
>breaks easily
>not even faster than PS/2
>no N-key rolling or whatever the buzzword is
>becoming obsolete too because USB C is being shilled hard

>>58481238
>NKRO, and mech keyboard enthusiasts
None of this requires PS/2

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>>58481403

>>58481404
The old Model M keyboards are PS/2 only, though. And PS/2 to USB adapters can be flaky. The one I had would only work if you applied pressure to the PS/2 connector at just the right angle.

>>58481402
I have eight also.
Mouse, keyboard, USB sound card, bluetooth controller are always plugged in.
Then I have my phone plugged in most of the time and sometimes plug in an external optical drive. Sometimes plug in an ardiuno to program it and I have a bunch of other USB devices.

>>58481403
>serial bus when parallel is objectively superior
yeah, PATA is so much better than SATA
dumb fuck

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/thread

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There is this.

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>>58480650
Daaamn Nicholson incoming

>>58481403
>USB is becoming obsolete because USB is being shilled
What even.

>>58480619
Debug

USB keyboards are shit. they're slow, unresponsive to more advanced key combinations and they often refuse to work when you're repairing things

>>58481770
>they're slow
False with USB 3
>unresponsive to more advanced key combinations
False with proper drivers and keyboard controllers

>>58481867
>False with USB 3
do you even know the response time of USB 3?
>False with proper drivers and keyboard controllers
it doesn't make a fucking difference. it's a hardware limitation

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>>58480671
>Oh? Educate me then.
There's your education. In order for a computer to be classified as an IBM-compatible Personal Computer, it needs all of these piles and piles of legacy nonsense dating back from 1981.

And what exactly is wrong with PS/2?

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Sometimes I forget where I am.

>>58481887
>it's a hardware limitation
False. USB HIDs have two operating modes, "report protocol" and "boot protocol". Only the latter has the N-key restriction.

>do you even know the response time of USB 3?
Microseconds. xHCI supports interrupt notifications to maintain this low latency.

>>58481928
Nothing, OP is just a faggot.

>>58481943
do you even understand the difference between hardware and software?

>>58481897
If you're going to berate people for having no idea what they're talking about then you should actually know what you're talking about.
Do you think any modern computer is IBM-compaitable? uEFI ended any chance of that.

>>58481958
OK, brainiac, explain why NKRO is supposedly a hardware restriction, considering keyboard controllers that support the USB HID report protocol.

>>58481970
get it into your simple brain: ps/2 won't interrupt your fucking CPU unlike the polled USB
hardware interrupts vs software interrupts. go figures

>>58482027
i'm sorry your cpu clock is audible

>>58482027
>polled USB
Are you a time traveler from 2007?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Host_Controller_Interface

>>58482027

Not him but what difference does it make? The impact on your CPU's performance will likely be so small that it'd be in the margin of error, even on benchmarks. The response time is far lower than your reaction time as well, so that's not an issue.

>>58480619
Is your keyboard and mouse wireless too?

>>58480619
>Why do we still cling to this shit?

We don't. Most brand new mobos don't even have that.

>>58482140
My new z270 has one

>>58482055
still goes through USB controller, still goes software
meanwhile:
http://www.computer-engineering.org/ps2protocol/
>>58482057
add more USB devices and see what happens

>>58480619
>tfw go to goodwill
>see bin full of ps2 mech keyboards
>pick out nice one for $5
>no interdiction or usb malfeasance

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>>58480988
> Windows

The motherboards I keep buying got rid of those ports ages ago. I'm sorry you buy shit motherboards that still cling on to 90s technology.

>>58482364
there's absolutely no argument for replacing something that works perfectly

I didn't knew we had so many forced obsolescence advocates here.

Don't you have to go camp outside a bestbuy for the new IPhone or something?

>>58482376
>unplug mouse to reroute some wires or whatever
>plug mouse back in
>have to reboot to get it to work

"works perfectly"

>>58482417
that's really dependant. i can plug/unplug my ps/2 keyboard without problems

>>58482450
Indeed you can. That's why I said mouse.

>>58482459
i believe that no one here questions the USB mouses. only keyboards

>>58482476
Nice have improved as things have gone USB. Keyboards have not

>>58482364
Got new mb last week x99 asus and it had kb/mouse combo ps2 on it.

>>58482364
that's funny because i see that one ps/2 port on every new mobo

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>>58480631
But ... my keyboard does NKRO through USB

>>58480921
>over deliver in amperage
You don't seem to understand how electricity works

>>58480650
Dude chill down, why are you saying a mean thing like that just because someone doesn't understand how USB ports work. Seriously, grow up.

>>58481395
The public computer pool at our university campus for example.

>>58482392
underrated

>>58482596
i wanna buy a das keyboard so bad but i don't think i can find switches silent enough for me.I'm a pretty "nocturnal" guy

>>58482705
Browns are pretty quiet tbqh

>>58482617
Fuck off back to your hugbox

>>58480921

>Because most wall chargers don't deliver a clean 5v and will often over deliver in amperage which harms the batteries in the long run.

Yes, if you've got a product from 2003 that somehow has zero controls over it's draw. I'm sure your Sony Clie thanks you for it's consideration to charge it in this way.

>And this is actual bullshit.

I've got 3 cases behind me whose front/top USB-ports have fucked off because idiots kept their phones plugged in full time. I -SERIOUSLY- don't understand why you faggots do this with $45 cases. Thinking somehow they manufacturer didn't go for the cheapest wiring, ports, soldering, electronics, mounting options, and more available to them.

>>58480619
it's simple, don't buy hardware with legacy junk

my motherboard doesn't have ps/2 ports and my monitor doesn't have a DVI port

feels good, man

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>>58480619
>MOAR POORTS!

>>58480651
>MOAR POORTS!

>>58480733
>MOAR POORTS!

>>58481272
>MOAR POORTS!

>>58480793
>MOAR POORTS!

>>58480988
>MOAR POORTS!

>>58481438
>MOAR POORTS!

>>58483092
Sorry that you're too poor to have one more than one GPU.

>>58481217
No it does not. What stupidity made you think that? I'm going to unplug my keyboard and plug it back in after this sentence to show that it works: Oh man would you look at that! It works! Incredible! A miracle! Faggot

>>58480650
tpbp

Wasn't there some polling vs interrupt difference?

>>58483112
>GPU
>PCI-E 1x

>>58480619
replace ps/2 port and replace it with usb.
Oh no, now I have to use a ps/2 to usb adapter for my model m, so much extra port usage :^)

>>58483168
You realize you can plug 1x cards into x16 slots right? You also realize two GPUs take up most of the space inside mid-sized ATX cases, right?

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>>58483112
i'm sorry you're too poor to have enough PCIe slots

>>58483194
you realize that it doesn't fucking matter, right?

>>58483204
>Two GPUs take up mid-sized ATX case
>Leaves no room for expansion slots
>"that doesn't fucking matter"
/g/ on technology

>>58483203
I'm not autistic enough to game on server hardware.

>>58483217
>I'm too poor to game on server hardware.
ftfy

>>58480869
>not killing your own PC
wat
why the fuck would that even happen

Fucking lol, who even cares about ports???

My battlestation rig has everything wireless. Sure, a $5 keyboard and mouse from the last century might be useful, but why should I be worried about your dinosaur tech?

welcome to 2017, grandpa

>>58483217
>buying bloated GPUs
>buing badly designed mobos

>>58480619
Because PS/2 KVMs are perfect, whereas USB ones are shite.

>>58482596
>2017
>Can't afford a keyboard with the letters printed on the keys

>>58480619
I don't even know what it's called but my keyboard is using that port.
What now?

>>58480619
t. mactoddler

>>58483430
Enjoy not having your cpu waste cycles polling usb bus for key presses?

>>58481461
NVMe is parallel is actually is faster for loads that utilise it. Spinning disks (especially modern ones with few platters) don't benefit from parallelisation of data streams because theres too few of them in the first place unlike first HDDs. Educate yourself before flaming other anon if you have no fucking clue what youre talking about.
Dumb fuck

>>58483246
>le wireless is the future meme
Wireless is older, shittier, and simpler technology than wired

>>58483755
This.
Everyone who uses wireless fucking keyboards should test how long it takes to empty out all their blood through the jugular vein.

>>58482450
>that's really dependant. i can plug/unplug my ps/2 keyboard without problems
this.
the whole "need a reboot" is for switching between usb and ps2 ports for inputs.

>>58483785
Why would you unplug a fucking keyboard while your computer is running anyway?

>>58483040
>I've got 3 cases behind me whose front/top USB-ports have fucked off because idiots kept their phones plugged in full time.
how does a usb port get damaged by being connected 24/7?
you'd think it would become damaged from the constant in, out wear and tear...

>>58483698
PCIe is a serial bus you fucking retard

>>58483854
That's exactly why you have PCIe 1-16x and exactly why most NVMe SSDs connect through PCIe 4x. God damn, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Real /g/man

>>58483806
as the previous anon said, to untangle wires.
a few other retarded reasons i'm sure, accidents, etc.
also not having to reboot to swap broken/old hardware is always nice.

>usb polling cpu nonsense
this doesn't actually matter does it? or is it the real reason games feel so fucking slow and laggy on pc regardless of framerate

>>58483908
and how is that related to >>58481461 ?

>>58483947
If you already lost your train of through then I have no words for you. I'll help you out. Reread post about NVMe

>>58483977
NVMe doesn't utilize parallel bus, why are you bringing that up?

>>58483993
What do 4 serial buses make if linked together to one device? Exactly, a parallel bus. The advantage of PCIe standard is that level of parallelisation can be customised by manufacturer by removing or adding further serial PCIe lanes. Where PCIe 1x is serial only or a parallel connection supporting a maximum of 1 parallel serial data streams. PCIe 2x is a parallel connection supporting a maximum of two parallel serial streams and so on.
Data in parallel connection is transferred in series so depending on level of abstraction you assume you can even say that all parallel buses are serial but not all serial buses are parallel (where parallel >=2 parallel streams). Same difference as with squares and rectangles.
You really shouldn't attack others if you don't understand underlying concepts yourself.

>>58481897
I don't there has been a computer with ISA since 1998

>>58484444
Chipsets/CPUs actually still support ISA. There aren't any physical slots but it's used for sensors and similar .

>>58484235
no you fucking idiot, bonded serial doesn't make a parallel bus although it enables parallel data transmission

>>58484512
I really couldn't be arsed arguing with you if you have trouble comprehending what is being said to you.

>What do 4 serial buses make if linked together to one device? Exactly, a parallel bus
Was a great simplification further explained by example
>PCIe 2x is a parallel connection supporting a maximum of two parallel serial streams and so on
Parallelisation of serial data streams allows for asynchronous and very flexible data streams in terms of bit width which is an advancement from pure parallel connections like PATA or LPT or derivatives where you were forced to repeat bits or add bit padding to smaller frames (depending on exact implementation).
That doesn't change the fact that parallel connection in pure form will always be faster than pure serial (of course assuming both operate at the same clock speed) which was the original argument made by some anon.

>>58480650
Brutal

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>>58480619
My current mobo has a single PS/2 port on it, and I use my Model M with that.

Whenever I upgrade, I know I wont have that port anymore, and then its gonna get ugly as I'll have to buy this $20 PS2/ to USB adapter to my my keyboard work, and some sort of USB extender because that adapter is fat as fuck, and just gonna have more shit hanging out the back

>>58484805
most currently produced mobos still have one ps/2 port, don't worry

>>58480631

>implying a USB keyboard can't have NKRO

>>58484750
>>What do 4 serial buses make if linked together to one device? Exactly, a parallel bus
>Was a great simplification further explained by example
but that's misleading and wrong, anon.

>>58483373
>2017
>He can't type properly

>>58484869
Not really. It's still partially true because 4 parallel serial stream can be made to operate like pure parallel bus does. Further explanation clarifies this matter.
Stop clinging on to something said mid paragraph just for the sake of keeping up the argument when next sentence addresses it. Don't be silly.

>>58481357

I liked this post.

>>58481357
Go back to youtube comments

>>58483755
>>58483775
Do you use a corded phone at home?

>>58480722
Don't feed the troll anon.

I have had issues with USB keyboards not responding correctly in bios.

Might not be a real issue in 2017 though.

>>58485023
> It's still partially true because 4 parallel serial stream can be made to operate like pure parallel bus does.
can you elaborate what you exactly mean with that? sure you can split your data to use multiple, independent, connections and reassemble at the other end, but that is a higher-level concept

synchronizing all data lines to a common clock would require hardware capability

>>58483261
>Because PS/2 KVMs are perfect, whereas USB ones are shite.

This.

>>58485144
>not having a corded landline for when the power goes out

>>58480619
NKRO and interrupt instead of polling.
If mating cycles becomes an issue then USB would be better.

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USB 3.0 ports don't always work unless you enable Iommu at some level. And in my case, Linux just flat out doesn't let my USB keyboard work without iommu as a kernel parameter.

Those ports will always work. They don't need to be replaced. If you need more ports, get a converter.

>>58480619
Two words, Hardware interrupt.

there is absolutely no reason to replace ps/2 ports with USB. there are hubs and other shit that can give you a maximum of 127 USB devices connected. and that's just per one single host controller

>>58485560
>NKRO
Solved by USB HID report mode
>interrupt instead of polling.
Solved by USB 3.0

It's been explained multiple times ITT.

>>58480650
kek, what and idiot

>>58485629
One acronym:
xHCI

>>58480619
There are plenty of motherboards without PS/2 ports. There are also combo ports for keyboards and mice now, I don't see the issue with one little port being there for people who still need it, especially when nobody's forcing you to buy a motherboard that supports PS/2.

Because everything supports PS/2 without any drivers, so when everything's fucked up and your USB drivers are corrupted somehow you didn't brick your PC

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>>58486312
this option must have no purpose or effect at all then

>>58486450
You don't need a mouse

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>>58486527
i can disable/fuck up ps2 keyboard also

>>58486183
>It's been proven wrong multiple times ITT
FTFY

>>58486197
one acronym:
kys

>>58481897
I watched that presentation, it was really cool. Too bad it was just a demonstration

>>58480653
MY NIGGER
Many companies still have floating around keyboards with 10- or more years taht works better than many USB crappy ones

>>58487667
i have a 19y old keyboard. it went through shit but still works like a charm

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>>58480650
>Maybe we can replace the space you occupy with more USB ports.
ouch.

>>58482608
I know how electricity works, the problem is that the devices (usually phones) will happily accept 1.5A or more to charge them and will draw it, even though it will decrease the life of the battery.

That's why I say they over deliver. If you use a charger rated at around 500mA, which is what your USB ports will deliver, then your battery will degrade slower.

>>58483092
>molex connector

>>58483040
>I've got 3 cases behind me whose front/top USB-ports have fucked off because idiots kept their phones plugged in full time.
Oh, so you bought the cheapest possible cases with the shittiest possible construction. Gotcha. Sure, in those conditions your port could possibly die because paying for shit gets you shit.
There isn't any reason why a port that is built to spec should fail because a device is plugged into it all the time though.

>>58485529
>not having a base station with battery backup
Alternatively plug it into your UPS with everything else.

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>>58480619
Why is /g/ obsessed with getting rid of useful technology? I still use PS/2 ports, lots of other people do too.

>>58483142
lol

>>58488373
one pcie 1x won't power up 4 extermal HDDs

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>>58488373
>MOAR MOLE SEX!

>>58485731
also usb is a novelty device, it's cheap, not very stable (at least it didn't used to be) and most things connected to it offload onto the cpu

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>>58480650
This post is beyond retarded.

He was obviously referring to the already limited space motherboard manufacturers have to cram all those ports into. And factually yes, you could fit a few more USB ports in place of where the PS/2 ports go, but you had to go full autismo and bring up chipsets too.

Seek help.

>>58480650
damn

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>>58480619
Because LAPTOPS still use it.

>>58480650
here's a good question /g/:
how much USB ports could we fit in the place of that anon?

>>58485365
You're spot on.

>synchronizing all data lines to a common clock would require hardware capability
PCIe 3.0 specifies reference hardware clocking of up to 100MHz with ±300ppm stability which can be used for syncing data transmission lines. Its not uncommon to use a common reference clock with varying multiplier to sync two or more FPGA and reduce clock domain and relating issues. In fact its very popular if your design needs to interface with external device eg Ethernet.
I'm not exactly sure why would you want to handicap your internal PCIe bus by reverting back to fully synchronous parallel communication but its possible.

>>58488532
Yeah, they do that internally because it takes less power. This is not a reason to keep physical ports on desktops, but PS/2 is a pretty nice standard because it works on a lower level than USB.

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I always forget just how fucking autistic this board is. Every time "maybe today i'll find an interesting and intelligent post" no

just my rig is better than yours and hurr I spend three days installing and configuring gentoo to work to the same potential other distros and operating systems reach in 20 minutes

>>58480619
Because we still use computers based off of Intel's and IBM's ideas. You can only get rid of legacy things by moving to a whole new architecture, which is not in Intel's or Microsoft's favor, as it would hurt their wallets.

>>58481034
I use PS/2 for mouse because it works with more operating systems and never requires a driver. I have a left, middle, and right mouse button, and a scroll wheel. It's also the sturdiest mouse I've ever had.

>>58480619
>Wanting shitty overdriven polling instead of god-tier system-interrupt input
Kill yourself OP, PS/2 was better as a standard, it just wasn't as universal.

>>58488442
Because it's more of a consumerism board than a technology board.

>usb fucking RETARDS

Please keep using USB peripherals, I fucking DESTROY everyone with ps2 mouse/keyboard thanks to SUPERIOR interrupt based input methods

>>58488553
About one south park reference coincidentally being the same number as a certain nvidia card's (lack of) memory

>>58481386
Like anon says, security. You will never find a USB port on any secure system. You design systems only with PS/2.

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>>58480619
>let's gimp functionality and versatility to add more of something we already have 8-12 of that we don't use in the first place
What's with this autism? Why don't you just buy a hub like everyone else with a brain? Who the fuck uses rear panel USB in 2017?

>>58491967
>gimp functionality
Name one function that USB 3.0 can't fulfill.
>versatility
USB is much more versatile. You can connect millions of different devices to the same port.

>>58492116
Work with my keyboard without an extra adapter (point of failure)
Be physically incapable of being a keylogger

>>58483194
> You realize you can plug 1x cards into x16 slots right?
Yeah but for what fucking purpose?

>>58492667
For using an x1 card when only an x16 slot is available. Hell for quite a while I was using an x16 card in an x1 slot.

>>58492686
> Hell for quite a while I was using an x16 card in an x1 slot.
I think you might have that backwards, buddy. Unless you chopped off the excess PCIe lanes to make it fit.

>>58480619
Why do you need so many god damn usb ports??

>>58492721
No, you read it right. And you don't need to cut your card up. You can cut the back of the slot given there's no components on the motherboard in the way. I used a riser cable as my motherboard didn't work with the aforementioned method.

>>58492728
Not him but I have connected to USB:
- SATA docking station
- External HDD for backups
- Webcam
- DAC
- Android phone for debugging purposes
- Keyboard
- Mouse
- Arduino
- Logic analyzer
- Power plug (USB controlled outlets)
- WiFi (isolated access point for debugging Internet of Shit Things)

>>58492116
>Name one function that USB 3.0 can't fulfill.
Function with a wide variety of PS/2 devices without adapters and actually give someone the technical advantages as well as the subjective advantages of using the device they want to use with the computer they paid for.
>USB is much more versatile. You can connect millions of different devices to the same port.
Hence why we already ship systems with shitloads of them and we can get shitloads more with hubs and expansion cards (you did buy a real motherboard, right?)

usb is basically a scam where you have to pay a license for vid/pid numbers. Ps/2 should be the universal serial port.

I hereby challenge all "BUT MUH USB 3 HAS INTERRUPT" shills to find literally one keyboard and/or mouse using USB 3 with interrupt reporting and not polling input.

>>58480650
Do we still let OP on the board after this one? My vote is no.

>>58480651
VIDEO
GAMES

Aka the only reason desktop PCs still exist.

You can get it with USB but you pay a premium for a clickclack hipster keyboard if you do

>>58494609
>you can get it but you have to pay more for a better product
And the issue is?

>>58480758
That depends entirely on the board. I've seen high end $200+ boards with four fucking back ports.

>>58483237
>>58483217
>reeeeeeeeeeeeee "vidya games" go back to >>>/v/

>>58485144
I'm pretty sure they use corded cellphones as well...

LMAO this got feature on reddit LMAO

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>>58483217
>tries to use the poorfag meme
>get BTFO
>r-real motherboards are autistic!
why should the industry pander to you retards again?

>>58492116
>Name one function that USB 3.0 can't fulfill
USB turntables

>>58480650
just!

>>58480631
My keyboard does NKRO over USB

>>58481035
>Fact: USB 3.0+ supports interrupt signaling
Know how to enable this on the qmk firmware?

>>58481252
>Most BIOS's should support it by now.
My keyboard lets me toggle NKRO so I can still use it in a BIOS that doesn't support it for whatever reason

>>58482376
Can you send arbitrary unicode keycodes over PS/2? I can, for codepoints up to 0xFFFFFF

>>58482705
>i wanna buy a das keyboard so bad
Why? It's a pretty shit keyboard, just look at that horrifically ugly case design

>but i don't think i can find switches silent enough for me.I'm a pretty "nocturnal" guy
if you type while sleeping then you should go see a doctor

>>58480758
>>58494763
My 310$ motherboard came with two USB 2.0 ports on the back

fucking asrock man

>>58480619
>we could have extra USB ports

Jesus fuck ... I'm using maybe half the USB ports on my systems. That's with PS/2 keyboard plus a wireless USB dongle for another keyboard plus mouse combo. There's six USB 2 ports on the back, 4 more on the front and 4x USB 3 ports on the back plus 2 more on the front.

What piece of shit computer are you using that you're running out of USB ports?

>>58480619
>extra USB ports
Let's see...
4 USB 2.0 ports in one of my monitors, 2 in another one, and a USB 2.0 passthrough in my keyboard. 4 USB 3.0 ports in my primary monitor.
2 USB 3.0 and 2 USB 2.0 in my case's front panel, for a total of 15 USB ports accessible on my desk, 10 of which are fully powered, and 1 of which supplies enough power for fast charging of whatever device I connect it to.

Explain to me why I want more USB ports on my motherboard.

>>58480619
NKRO YOU STUPID NIGGER

USB IS BULLSHIT FOR A KEYBOARD

>>58494609

What game do you play that has any situation where you need to press more than 6 keys at once?

Oh every possible example I can think of, the highest I can get is 6. Walk-mode crouch jumping diagonally while opening the scoreboard in CS.

Shift
Ctrl
Space
W
D
Tab

I cannot for the life of my figure out how you'd need more.

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>>58480650

>>58480619
Because that shit just works, always. I had a problem with an employees PC that he couldn't use any ports whatsoeve, nothing worked, not even in safe mode.
Because his PC had PS/2 i connected those devices and was able to fix the problem without having to reinstall the whole system.

>>58480650
>Maybe we can replace the space you occupy with more USB ports.
fucking savage

>>58496546
>>58496609
I want redditors to leave

>>58496516
>he doesn't jump and throw a grenade while walking diagonally and crouched, all while checking the scoreboard

realistically, no game is gonna have more than 5 keys you would press at a time. you would have to take your hand off the mouse for that.

>>58496340
my 100 $ asrock cames with 6 usb port and 2 usb 3.0

>>58480650
my motherboard have only one PS2 port and in place of the other one it has 2 usb port
you might be retarded

>>58480619
You have NO brain