>21 years >nothing has changed Is Windows 95 the greatest

le epic 90's

>>58464570
you misspelled "macOS Sierra"

>>58464570
>Using Windows 2000/Me icons

>>58464570
>Is Windows 95 the greatest technological revolution in the history of mankind?
No. There's basically nothing in Windows 95 that another operating system hadn't already implemented.

If we're talking technology generally, then it might be the digital computer, or it might be the windmill, or something else that's now old hat but *really* changed the way things are done. If we're talking in computing terms... possibly the concept of Multics and subsequent advent of Unix, possibly the personal computer, possibly the mobile phone.

Windows was shit until XP. I skipped Vista and held on to XP until 7 was released. Never bothered with 8/8.1 either. 10 is OK on my tablet, but it doesn't have me convinced to switch from 7 on my desktop.

>>58464721
>implying 2000 was shit

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>>58464570

>>58464570
Right now I'm currently dealing with the blue screen of death/stop code error.

>Is Windows 95 the greatest technological revolution in the history of mankind?
Fuck no. At least on Mac operating systems this shit doesn't happen. Linux has it's own problems. All operating systems are just shit for one reason or another.

>>58464818

Well fuck me anon, completely forgot about 2000. Wasn't doing much/any computing at that time due to life circumstances. You're right though, that's when Microsoft started making decent improvements like PnP hardware support.

>>58464570

>Winamp

F

No music players atm can compare.

>>58464862
When you say "this shit", what do you mean?

>>58464912
>tfw used winamp up until last year

>>58464921
Never had a complete system malfunction with Macs but if I ever did have that problem Apple also made it easy to completely wipe the whole system with their recovery drive. Windows has all kinds of problems with their systems and their recovery drives.

>>58464570
>Is Windows 95 the greatest technological revolution in the history of marketing?

Fixed that for you.

Amiga was way ahead of Windows and MacIntosh, by nearly a decade.

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>>58464931
>still use it today

>>58464937
Ah, right, that.

I have actually had that happen, but it was quite some time ago. Earlier versions of Mac OS X did have a few issues, but even at its worst still wasn't as bad as Windows.

>>58464862
>Right now I'm currently dealing with the blue screen of death/stop code error.
How does this even happen in 2017? Last time I got a BSOD was trying to get a stable 5GHz on air with my 6700k.

>>58464998
Just because Microsoft software is less shit than it was, doesn't mean it's not shit at all.

>>58465064
Yeah but ever since Windows 7 or so you shouldn't be getting random bluescreens.

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>>58464844
horrible choice for a Windows Explorer icon

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>>58465101
Why? It's accurate.
BTW I think W2K had the most beautiful icons ever, on any operating system.

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>>58464570
Well, what changed purely from a functional approach? Nothing.

What changed purely from a technical approach?
>more advanced video games
>higher resolution video playback and editing
>somewhat higher resolution pictures and editing
>kinda more elaborate audio
>bigger storage and files
>wireless network interfaces
>web technologies now a bloated towering stack of shitty software that should have never passed the experimental stage
>"smartphones" being really "retardedphones", taking a desktop approach to mobile design, and born from designers and engineers that had never worked on embedded devices and had no fucking clue how to manage power supply and storage, keep the hardware design simple, make HMI a nice blend of hardware buttons and software features and not just a slab of glass with a touchscreen, or optimize shit, and now mostly consisting of supporting the aformentioned abysmal web technologies
Essentially nothing but bloat.

Windows 95 did everything we do today, just "simpler". All that should have evolved is the hardware made more powerful to support higher quality media, and fixes/revamps of already well-designed telecommunication technologies.

Who's to blame? Far-sighted teachers teaching far too much to start things over from scratch instead of trying to improve them and work with them, and being all like "waaaah C is outdated learn Fortran/Rust/Go/Ruby/<insert meme language> instead!!!" when it really is the absolute most complete language in existence with the most libraries that do FUCKING ANYTHING YOU WANT, eventually complemented with Cpp, Python or Lua for higher level concepts. Result is 99% of dev jobs consist of considering all available options before saying "fuck it let's code everything from scratch in <meme>!", and attempt to make poorly coded custom software implementing no known standard work together.

You can surely see that I am mad as fuck, and indeed I am. Computers aren't hard, but there's too many idiots and pajeets.

>>58465082
you still get them if your ram/vram is fucked

>>58465082
I've had bsods on win8.1 and win10
More than once

Is win7 the last of the pure OS?

I think Windows 3.11 for Workgroups was a pretty decent piece of kit from Microsoft. Windows 95 with it's service pack was alright and Win98 SE was okay too. Not as great though. Dealing with IRQ conflicts and other shit was common. Win2k was a huge step in the right direction. XP was a pretty solid release. WinME/Vista/Win8/Win10 are examples of too big to fail and most companies would've nearly gone out of business.

>>58465126
Agree with you there.

>>58465126
Man, look at that Computer icon. Fuck all this flat shit we got today. This has so much depth but it doesn't look childish. Truly professional.

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>>58464570
who /comfy/ here?

>>58464721
Like me

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>>58465101

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>>58465337
>widescreen
>wasting limited vertical space on a task bar
Shiggy diggy etc.

>>58465385
>taskbar on the right
savage

>>58465385
>2017
>not using a 40" monitor
you have no space wherever u put ur micropenis bar

>>58464583
This

>>58465393
I got another monitor on the left and it's akward to have a taskbar in middle of them. It's on left side on my laptop.

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>>58465385
better?

>>58465414
>changing stuff because some autist on /g/ told you to
lol

>>58465410
that's a valid reason but how do you emergency close your porn windows when your parents are busting into your room?

>>58465417
he saves anime, the fuck do you expect?

>>58465423
anime website

>>58465417
I usually put it to the right but since it autohide, I keep it down for scrolling.

>>58464654
>something else that's now old hat but *really* changed the way things are done
Writing, and then the printing press. Both immediately preceded absolutely insane leaps in human achievement.
The internet will probably be remembered alongside those two as well.
Basically anything that drastically improves our ability to store and disseminate information tends to cause rapid, significant improvement society-wide.

>>58465422
There's a "hide all open windows" button in the bottom of your taskbar.

>>58465200
>>"smartphones" being really "retardedphones", taking a desktop approach to mobile design, and born from designers and engineers that had never worked on embedded devices and had no fucking clue how to manage power supply and storage, keep the hardware design simple, make HMI a nice blend of hardware buttons and software features and not just a slab of glass with a touchscreen, or optimize shit, and now mostly consisting of supporting the aformentioned abysmal web technologies

i remember that many games for psp were able to directly control cpu speed to save power, like even to 66mhz.

btw have you ever work on embedded. if so, then what is it like?

>>58464844
What's My Briefcase?

>>58465538
>The Windows Briefcase synchronizes files and folders within itself with those in any other folder, even on a removable writable media or the network. It is intended for users with portable media or multiple computers.

>>58465237


Hardware issue. Check your RAM and drivers.

>>58464570
thats not windows 95

>10 years
>nothing has changed
Is iphone the greatest technological revolution in the history of mankind?

>>58465518
>btw have you ever work on embedded. if so, then what is it like?
Yes. It's like knowing what the fuck you're doing.

There's a piece of hardware, with different chips on it, you know how each of them work, you know what they do, you know what they don't do, you know how to send them data and how they respond. Then you start making software, you start with a functional approach of what it does, but then you feed back into its design the limitations of the hardware, hence what it can afford to do. You start with the broad strokes, mostly time constraints if there are so you can be sure everything runs fast enough, then memory constraints so that everything fits and if it doesn't you rely on different structures and procedural techniques to store it in a smarter way. You don't have blind threads running until they're done, or shared memory you wait to access, you synchronize all that, running like a clock, and rely on cooperative multitasking rather than preemptive. You make something that isn't just a piece of code that compiles and runs, but something that works in harmony with the hardware.

And then you see PC developers and wonder why they're not doing the same thing. Well they don't have as much constraints as you do, they don't need to make as much efforts, but then they don't make any effort at all. If it doesn't work, just add more CPUs and RAM, but there's zero optimization. There used to be a time when PC devs were good, because embedded devices are merely old computer architectures made smaller and more efficient, thus embeddable. Now there's next to no difference, we just put a big battery on a modern computer architecture, and now there's no good PC dev anymore, and no one knows what "embedded" even means. Well it still exists, but is limited to cars, boats, planes, and some niche, critical industries mostly, everything else is just "duct tape an ipad on it and we'll make an app", but so much is lost in the process.

>>58464654
>There's basically nothing in Windows 95 that another operating system hadn't already implemented
This, it's all just le Windows 95 on my Gateway 2000 was the dawn of home computing meme.

>>58465462
>>58465422
Windows key + M minimizes all your windows

>>58464570
>win95

Fuck no, been there, used that, hated that.
Stop being a fake nostalgia fag like those dumb asses digging back the 8bit pixelized shit we 90s kid hated.

Even with WinXP/2k they have their own share of horrific issues.

>>58464570
95 is probably still the greatest leap in /usability/ in windows, technologically it wasn't all that great, NT4 which came out soon after was a much better system, coupling the technologically better NT base with the usability/interface of 95

>>58465634
>And then you see PC developers and wonder why they're not doing the same thing.
Perhaps because they write code that's meant to be hardware-agnostic. You can't optimize your code for specific hardware if you don't know what it's going to be run on/want it to run on everything. Why would you even need to wonder why they aren't doing it?

>>58465757
>tfw the API on windows is so fucked that the awesome NT kernel has to do retarded things to make the API happy

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>>58465126
>>58465362
I'm not saying it's unauthentic, I'm saying it's a horrible choice

also moricons.dll has a better MS-DOS icon

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>>58465802

hmmm I don't like it with this background.

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>>58465200
>talking shit on Fortran
It was never a meme language

>>58465408
This

>>58464844
how to do this please respond

>>58465385
I would do that too if the taskbar didn't get so damn large when you put it on the side, even with tiny icons

>>58466588
Classic theme and MS Sans Serif

>>58464721
I'm still holding on to Windows XP.

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>>58464570
Best blue ever?

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>The year of the birth of our lord and saviour + 2017
>not hiding the taskbar

>>58464958
>classic theme
superior taste

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaF-nRS_CWM

>>58465769
That's true, but you don't only optimize something with hardware in mind, you also optimize something because it's slower than it should be, or uses more memory than it should.

Kinda like you have your software memorize some information in RAM where it becomes easier and faster to access than querying/regrouping/generating all the information again everytime you need it, and then you delete that information to free the space when you no longer need it, and you don't need to know how memory is handled internally to do that. Or how you try to do as many things as you can on a single framework rather than stacking them, especially when that single framework already does everything you need. Some would argue it's not "optimization", it's more like "good sense" and "the logical thing to do", but then many PC devs have no good sense and suck at logic.

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>not using the best classic shell theme to ever exist

It's still not quite perfect on Windows 7 though. Life will never be the same.

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now we have to deal with clunky shit like win10 that has like 2 different UIs for the control panel and shit

anyone who uses win10 is a fucking idiot, btw, but you all know that

>>58466714
Certainly. It's that perfect shade of blue that is neither too purple nor cyan, bright enough to be visible, dark enough not to hurt your eyes and make white text perfectly readable.

brb patenting this blue

>>58466714
I used to have a mixture of that shade of blue with OP's shade of green, looked very nice

>>58466841
Rip in penis windows 59

>>58466670
And on Linux?

>>58465263
Vista had like some kind of giant conspiracy against it. I've never seen the media shit on an OS like they did on Vista.

By the end of Vista's lifespan, it was very nearly as good as 7. They patched practically everything wrong with it. Can't say the same for ME or 8.

>>58466588
>classic theme
>microsoft sans serif
>antialiasing off
>changed icons in some dlls
>customized squared australis tabs addon on firefox

>>58466695
lol it's 2017 guy, not 2007. What are you doing this for? At least upgrade to 7.

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>>58466843
Too late, it's free software now.

Also ignore the fact that I'm on a shitbox, this is just an old computer I brought in to my workplace for myself.

>>58467026
>GeForce 210

Reminds me of my old gaming PC when I was a young teen, had a GeForce 2 in it. Couldn't afford the GeForce 4, lol. Still worlds better than the Voodoo card I had before that.

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>>58466885
On Linux I used TDE earlier and XFCE with Chicago95 lately. It's not like they are good enough, but I'm not much into ricing.
I suppose FVWM95 would be nice but it's abandoned.

>>58467066
Only this is a current production low-end card. I had to put one in since I was originally using this junker as a headless.

No. That was Windows Xp.

Why am I masturbating while reading a thread about old computers?

>>58467269
If you're wearing knee high socks, I just want you to know you're not alone sister.

>>58464570
>windows 2000 screenshot

what did he mean

>>58465337
>>58465385
>still doesn't autohide the taskbar
>in 2017

>>58467853
Autohide is annoying as fuck

>>58467975
How so?

>>58464844
>>58467010
Damn, I need this now.

>>58467861
I feel dirty looking at this

>>58467861
im not sure you tried at all

>>58467010
>antialiasing off
W-why?

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>>58464570
>just a shitty NeXTSTEP clone
>which is a shitty unix

>>58468059
>how to get this look?
>do this
>W-why?

>>58464570
It's a marketing success, resulting from the only serious GUI usability studies Microsoft ever did. Don't make it a technological prowess.

>>58464862
Mac OS 8-9 were crashy as fuck.

>>58468029
It fucks with fullscreened windows, it also triggers my autism

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>>58467010
but how do you change the start button?

>>58467975
this

>>58468084
DELET

>>58467008
Still have a Core2Duo or older with Vista still. Runs fine all patched up. Mothballed atm but yes towards the end there it was mostly fine.

>>58467008
>8
Does 8.1 qualify as 8? I'm using 8.1 as a daily, with StartisBack installed it's basically a bit faster 7 with more features.

ME was still shit, no argument here.

>>58465263
Please Windows XP was anything but a stable release, it took them 2 service packs to go from total shit to workable.

And Windows Vista worked pretty good even without service pack.

>>58468402
I downgraded back to Windows 8 from 8.1 because it only made things worse. So I assume he's talking about both Windows 8 and 8.1 here.

>>58467008
At the time, I just didn't want to change from XP. Even though I used 7 now, I didn't like switching to 7 either. Even when XP came out, I just wanted to stay with 98.

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>>58468145
the icon is located in this dll:
%WINDIR%\Branding\ShellBrd\shellbrd.dll
(bitmap resource no. 1041)

use a resource editor to change it

>>58468535
>Please Windows XP was anything but a stable release, it took them 2 service packs to go from total shit to workable.
All and I mean all Windows releases never usually came into their own until the first service pack. It's why the stereotype exists.

>>58464721
I really liked Window NT3.51.

>>58468701
True except for Windows 7

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Because it was the service pack.

I'm currently working on a copypasta reply for Windows 10 hate threads. Basically a non-/g/ user's list of issues with Windows 10. Should I post the current version?

>>58469286
does it mention involuntary restarting after auto-updates?

>>58469342
>does it mention involuntary restarting after auto-updates?
No.

>>58466885
You can use IceWM for windows 95-like behaviour

>>58469426
lol don't even bother then

>>58464592
At least you're trying.
He's not using Win95, he's using Windows 2000 since the task bar separator is darker colored than 95/98, and it's using a Documents and settings folder.

>>58469585
No shit?
Also WiFi icon

herro

>>58469657
Well reading further down, I saw that he used a resource hacker to edit the icons, something I did a lot back in 1997-2003 to swap out my shell32.dll icons.
So he could use Windows XP with the classic theme for all I know.

but at least he's not using any non-NT based systems since those have different taskbar separators.

>>58469692
Does My Network Places exist in XP?

>>58469717
you can make a folder with such an icon and call it My network places.

>>58469768
you can just photoshop a screenshot i guess

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>>58466846
Behold

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>>58469917
Too much cyan imo.

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>>58469971
And the lighter one.

Though I made them on the TN panel so I don't know how proper they are on the calibrated IPS panel.

>>58464570
>Is Windows 95 the greatest technological revolution in the history of mankind?

No, because it's a poor North Mumbai reproduction of OS/2 and Workplace Shell.

I went from OS/2 to Windows and it felt like half of my fingers were lopped off in an industrial accident.

Basically.

I use KDE configred to behave just like XP, the only real innovations are removing the pointless desktop icons and using multiple desktops. The only other reasonable desktop paradigm is the tiling WM but it only excels at certain tasks.

>>58469971
Eh, I just combined both on a hex mixer thingie

>>58464958
been using it since 1997, no reason to switch does everything i need.

>>58466572
Also this


faggotry should end to cease.

>>58469768
>>58469717
>>58469692
>>58469657
>>58469585
>>58464592

it's clearly Win7

>>58469971
stop using point linux elements

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>>58464570
ummm

>>58469585
>Documents and Settings

Jesus, that really takes me back.

>>58471079
remember when the desktop was in the windows folder?
how about when the windows folder wasn't called "windows"?

>>58471643
>how about when the windows folder wasn't called "windows"?
??

>>58471823
in NT the "windows" folder was called "WINNT", it was changed back to "windows" in XP

>>58464570
No, It was macOS

>>58465200
>>58465634
>>58466792
Anon will you marry me?