>tfw can't wait to put together your new build >tfw

>BUT MOM I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOOOW

>>58422833
Why did you buy such a low end psu?

Go get your free month of Amazon prime and fuck off

>>58422874
Because he's a dipshit and listens to /g/ instead of going his own research

>>58422874
From what I've read, 450w is more than enough for an i5 6500 and RX 480. I'm not planning on over clocking. Plus It's the only modular PSU in that price range so there's that

>>58422900
But I do have prime anon. But for some reason, Amazon will not ship the rest of my parts until next week.

>>58422922
I do hope everything works out, but down the line it may get a bit flaky. Good luck with the build.

>>58422833
https://stallman.org/amazon.html

you got what you deserve

>>58422970
Cheers m8, I've got that 5 year warranty with it if anything does play up

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r8 my 128gb build.

>>58423234
What the fuck are you going to do with 128gb? Compile my dick?

>>58423234
Is that all for gaymen

>>58422833
>450 watt psu
>RX 480
KEK

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>>58425097
Am I missing something or?

>>58425247
the rx480 is a fucking power house just like any amd GPU and its best to have a good head room
source:i have an R9 390 with a 600W PSU

>>58422833
If they dont show up until next week you didnt order them from prime shippers.

Last time I ordered parts off amazon I got same day delivery and built my computer that night.

>>58425247
PSUs degrade about 5-10% per year. Enjoy having your fried parts.

>>58423286

That's clearly a 2TB SSD.

>>58425247
Efficiency and power degradation.

>>58425305
stop this meme already, you tried spewing this BS in the PSU thread earlier already.

Only the most retarded person would believe you, but you're basically shilling for PSU corporations FOR FREE. You're the definition of a consumer cuck

>>58425311

Oh shit never mind, I just saw the RAM is that much. Holy shit.

>>58425305

>source: the inside of my anus

>2011+6
>still using (((amazon)))

>>58425247
Best to have power for future use and not use it than have no room for anything else.

Also enjoy that no overclocking m8.

>>58425348
>((( )))
Back to /pol/ you edgy manchild.

>>58423234
>falls for the 128gb RAM meme
>doesn't fall for the 6950X meme

>>58425319
>Efficiency
That's not how psu ratings work. A 450w 80 bronze unit does not give only 80% of 450w, it does the opposite. It uses an extra 20% to hit the 450w which means it's pulling ~550w from the wall at full load.

>>58422849
>be adult
>living alone
>self sufficient for years
>still feel exactly like this

I can't be the only one

>>58425369
You can run an over-volted R9 FuryX and a 6 core intel CPU at 4.4GHz and draw under 600w at full stress load.

Power draw is going DOWN, not up. Future parts will use LESS power, not more.

There is simply NO reason to go over 600w for a single GPU setup at this point, it's just wasted money.

Further, the majority of the time your computer is being used, you're web browsing, watching movies, or leaving it idle, at these load levels a 1000w+ PSU is going to have garbage efficiency and will draw MORE power at idle than if you had a 600w PSU.

Why would you subjugate yourself to 50w+ more power draw at idle because some day you MIGHT want another GPU, but most likely it will just sit and never be used anyway, and you paid money for a bigger PSU for no reason what-so ever AND you end up using more power in the long run because it has worse efficiency than a smaller PSU would.


tldr, get a 600w PSU.

>>58425278
i5 6500 and rx 480 will not draw more than 350 stop talking shit

>>58425460
power draw shoots up rapidly if you OC. worth having a hefty amount of overhead if it's something you intend to do.

but otherwise you are correct.

>>58425477
yea have fun with random shut downs while playing or even worse getting your system fried

>>58425369
>>58425488
As stated earlier, I don't intend on overclocking

>>58425488
Only if you're shooting for retarded levels of OCing,

The 6 core CPU I have is 140wTDP, overclocked from 3.3Ghz to 4.4GHz makes it draw at most ~220w.

Even over-volted the R9-FuryX struggles to bring power draw over 550w.

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>>58425501

>>58425510
Then you really are a dumbass. By overclocking you go the next cpu/gpu tier up FOR FREE.

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>>58422849
top kek

>>58422939
because those products are shipped by third parts sellers, not directly from Amazon

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>>58422833
>AMD

>>58425305
PSUs degrade 30% every year you dumb fuck

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>>58423234
>650€ for SSD only
tfw being poor

>>58425619
yeah, most pro gamers replace PSUs every other year.

If you have prime you were given specific guaranteed delivery dates during checkout.
You should have picked alternatives for the parts that were back ordered or non-prime if you were in such a hurry.

>>58425550
You're not getting the "next CPU tier up for free" if you're being cucked by intel to pay extra for an unlocked CPU in the first place you autistic sperg.

>>58425682
i'd rather pay for intel than for a new house when mine burns down

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>>58423286

>>58425247
the psu is most efficient at 50% load

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>>58425580
>>58425672
Everything was ordered directly from Amazon. It's just that delivery status of my CPU, RAM, case and my other SSD have been pushed to next week even though stock is available. It's not a big issue, I was just looking forward to building it today

>>58425761
yeah but that doesn't mean you want your peak load level to only be 50% of your PSU load.

Ideally you want your average gaming load to be ~50% of your PSUs load.

My average gaming load is ~280-320w, my peak power draw is ~500w.

So should I get a 1000w PSU, or a 650w PSU?

>>58425751
What the fuck are you even talking about

>>58425769
if that's true you can get the shipping costs refunded, or if you didn't pay for shipping you can usually get $10-20 credit with amazon.

If they fuck up on free 2 day shipping they ALWAYS give me free shit, or they extend my prime membership by a month for free.

>>58425793
I'll see what I can get from customer service chat later on cheers

>>58425769
It's your moral duty to bitch and whine

>>58425784
650 is more than enough. Anything higher is a meme, especially for single GPU use

>>58425793
Wait how? I got free 1 day shipping on a wifi card and they sent it to me after 3 days and also left it sopping wet outside when it was raining. The rain didnt go through the plastic wrap but they couldn't have known that.

>>58425793
Yes, that happened when I ordered the parts for my PC.I chose free shipping and they upgraded it to next day shipping and divided the order so items were shipped as available.

>>58425759
You're right. You could probably compile anon's dick with 2gb.

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>tfw 500w

no need to go more than that

>>58425424
you're not the only one my niggar, I track my orders like an edgelord tracks his out-of-the-league crush on facebook.

>>58425920
This. I didn't even realise /g/ could meme PSUs so hard until I read this thread

>>58425962
oh boy do I have a thread for you.
>>58417371

>>58425980
Kek this is gold

>>58425980

already lost at 6000w

>>58422922
It's more about the quality of the PSU than the wattage.

>>58426212
The grey label CX450M are pretty well regarded looking around online. Also comes with 5 year warranty so that'll keep it going

>>58422922
>>58426212

this. the amperage on the 12V rail is the most important thing of a psu.

If PSU degrade, how come my shitty chinese PSU is still alive after 6 years?

>>58426310
>muh anecdotal evidence
>this is the current state of /g/
where do these fucking retards even come from

>>58422900
this. I got two free months yesterday cause they double fucked my order..

>>58425556

Thanks for using my pepe :D

>>58423234
>EVO
damn poorfags

>>58422833
>B150
>aftermarket cooler

Why? You can't overclock your locked down CPU. Waste of money, could've used it toward a better PSU. Also >mortar. fucking /v/ tier

>>58423234

All that gear high quality gear
>850 EVO

Why? Also why did you bought a PSU that's at least twice as powerful as you actually need.

>>58422833
>not waiting for ryzen

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>>58426646
>waiting for a meme processor that will never come out in time
>when it does it offers 2500K performance

>>58426644
>stock Intel cooler
>hideous fan header cables
>disgusting blue sticker

No thanks. The PSU is also a non issue.

Also say whatever you want about the mortar mobo, it looks sexy af and doesn't resort to edgy gamer Ferrari red colours.

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>>58426646
>waiting for memezen

>>58426672
>offers single thread 2500k performance
>with more cores and threads
>for a low price

What PSUs are even good

Seasonic?
Antec? but only everything higher than earthwatts?
Corsair?
Maybe coolermaster?

>>58426990
>2016+1
>not wanting a nuclear powered power supply

Git gud

>>58422874
Grey label CX is quality.

>>58422833
>radeon

>>58425348
Alternatives?

>>58426644
Maybe he wants a quieter, cooler and better looking alternative than the stock cooler? You don't HAVE to oc to get better performance from an aftermarket cooler come on anon

>>58422902
/thread
>212 evo
better off sticking with the stock cooler, will barely get any decent overclock off this.
>buys the rx line thinking he's getting a good gpu
idiot, it's a rebrand of a rebrand off another rebrand, can't even handle dx12 at 1080p.
>le ssd
have fun with your wasted pci e slot, ssd speeds capped at 500mb, and bottlenecked by usb/ethernet and just about any other method of transfering data.
>msi motherboard
>ever
i shiggydiggydooo they fail constantly.

>buying a new cpu when a refresh is just about to happen
>buying ddr 4 when ddr3 is less expensive and faster
i bet the cpu you bought is also fucking worthless and overpriced to top it all off.

>>58426644
You complain about the aftermarket cooler but not the case fan which isn't worth it at all if you don't get a super cheap case.

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>>58427749
>5 minute boot time peasant

>>58422833
>build computer for school
>1 month after build completion and machine running like a dream, either the PSU or motherboard shits the bed
>too lazy to disassemble the machine between class and school, just do school work on older laptop until I test the PSU

Really annoying desu senpaitachi

>>58427938
>he turns his pc off
what a worthless faggot.

>>58422833
>He doesn't use Aliexpress

>>58427967
Class and work**

>>58422833
>tfw this is why I'll never use SuperBiiz again
It took them almost a month after I got my case when I made my build, whereas Newegg got their stuff in literally a few days after. This was during a Black Friday sale.

>>58427994
scratch that, reverse it - It took SuperBiiz a month longer to get my case to me because hurr durr muh black fridei boogyman

>>58425942
>out-of-the-league
don't say that

>>58428249
are you jealous that he's leagues ahead of you?

>>58422849
When Amazon guarantees a 2-day delivery there is a reason to complain, you blithering retard.

>>58425278
>thinking the 480 pulls anywhere near what a 390 does

commit sudoku friendo

>>58428496
Check your millennial entitlement. You should be thanking Amazon for existing in the first place.

>>58428547
>paying for guaranteed 2 day shipping
>not getting what was guaranteed
>still paying for it

I've worked enough customer service to know generations other than millennials will complain when they don't get what they've paid for. Boomers are the worst.

Boomers are the worst anyway though.

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>>58428496
>Amazon listing items in stock and shipped in 2 days and not following through is fine because I'm an old cantankerous cunt

not even an argument

>>58428600
meant for >>58428547

>>58428583
>>58428600
>Amazon generously offers you quick deliveries for pennies
>they fail, once, and you run off to cry about it on your Soviet Union COMINTERN website
If it wasn't for Amazon you wouldn't even be able to order the components in the first place. Amazon is doing you a favor by providing these services, Bernouts.

>>58428496
at least it's not DHL

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@58428724
No (you) for (you)

>>58422833
>tfw I can't put my new build togeather yet becasue the i7 7700 hasn't been released yet, neither has the 1080ti, and the case I want isn't available yet
Feels bad man

>>58428787
>Using @s
what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>58428824
Spotted the newfriend

>>58422833
isnt it possible to see if they actually have the product? here they show if they have the product in store.

>>58428428
of course not

>>58428724
How is paying amazon for prime and then not getting the benefits you paid for acceptable because "amazon is doing you a favor". It's not a favor if I'm paying for it for fucks sakes, and they don't exist just to do people a favor they exist to MAKE MONEY.

Badly selected parts desu. Please tell me you're not gaming.

>>58428547
Please, never run a fucking business because it will fail within a year, when people are fucking paying you for a service to be done specifically, they want it to be done, you don't fuck with another man's money.

>>58429132
What's so bad about it?

>>58422833
>Thinking shipped means the day you ordered.
>Seller does not ship two days after via email note.

Write bad reviews on the seller brah.

>>58429132
Seems like a perfectly fine 1080p gaming PC to me

>>58429514
I didn't know this was the new desktop thread.

The NSA stalled them because they had to bug your parts first

>>58425510

Why did you buy a meme cpu cooler then?

Also

>B150 gayming motherboard

t. 6500 owner with stock cooler

>>58422833
>buying shitty intel when Zen is coming and is 99.9% better than anything out right now

>>58429622
>0.2 rupees has just been deposited into your account

>>58429132
Could you give any non-meme answers as to why? I'm interested in hearing about the PSU since I have the same 450w one and I'm planning on using it with a 1060 and an i5 6500

>>58429593
Why do have a meme, locked CPU?

>>58429661
>muh kaby lake

100% of reviews said it is dogshit

you know it
I know it
everyone else knows it

go fuck off nigger

>>58422833
>>58423234
Nothing like putting thousands of dollars into a build just to browse 4chan and fap to porn.

>>58426644
Because people are ignorant and instead of buying hardware based on their needs, they buy hardware to make themselves look cool in a Speccy screenie.

>>58429686

OPs build should be nowhere near a thousand, unless he is a complete tard.

>>58429674
>non meme answer

Where do you think you are?

But yes you'll be fine anon, your PC won't draw anything near 350w, even after a slight overclock on the GPU. Anyone who says otherwise is retarded

>>58429717
Cool, thanks anon.

And based on pcpp it's saying my planned build will need 280w so I'm glad to hear that.

>>58429696
OP here, I got it for free after sucking a niggers dick from Amazon

>>58423234
Intel retail edge/10
Also corsair/rog faggot shit.

>>58428600
you can tell them it didnt get there within the time specified and they will give you a 5$ credit or discount

>>58429679
Nobody here is shilling kaby lake tho. You're the only shill here so fuck off Pajeet

>>58422922
450 Lol, have fun buying another

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>>58427749
OP is excited about building a new PC and you're just shitting all over him and probably making him feel bad.

Fuck off.

>>58428724
u must have voted for Donald Dump

>>58430042
Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your stay.
:^)

>>58430127
you need to go back

I actually just placed my order today for my first PC build. Pretty hype, but I wonder what the shipping time is like for Canadian customers. I don't have an arrival date yet, tracking number tells me it's still in the "packaging" phase.

>>58425414
You're not wrong, but I think he was referring to the fact that generally PSUs are more efficient at providing that load of X watts if not pushed to their absolute max wattage or near it. Plus the fact that generally speaking, PSUs with higher watt ratings are typically built to a higher standard than lower tier ones and thus inherently more often achieve greater 80 plus ratings.

tl;dr you're not wrong but I think he was making a different point

>>58425501
If your PC is randomly shutting down like that it is NOT:
>RX480 drawing too much power
and is LIKELY:
>Shit PSU that's actually way lower rated
>Old PSU that's just flaky
>Some crazy overclock you're not telling us about
>Something else in your PC

If you're running a PSU that is truly rated for 600W and pretty much any current/modern-ish CPU other than maybe a 9590 and a single 480 and have a typical system, the actual power draw factor on paper is NOT the problem. Something is not right.

Its 2 days of shipping, they dont mention the processing time.

Also alot of places dont deliver on weekends, not just sunday.

Moral to the story
>you cant blame amazon when your dumb ass ordered on the wrong day.

>>58423011
how comes this stallman meme didn't die yet?

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>>58422833
>not making sure you live near fulfillment warehouses
>not ordering online and selecting "pick up"
>not getting an email literally an hour later saying your order is ready
>not ordering at lunch and having your system built by dinner
>paying for "prime" so your shit comes late and possibly smashed by a fuckwit courier or postal service

i feel bad for you son

>>58431160
Now that I think about it you might be right.

>>58428496
OH I'M SO SOLLY SIR! THIS ITEM CANNOT SHIP IN 2 DAYS, THAT 2 DAY GUARANTEE WAS A LIE.


T. PAJEET

i waited 7 months for my first gaming pc how about that?

>>58423234
>128GB
are you trying to fucking time travel or something?

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>>58422833
Fuck man i know that feel all to well. I put everything together beforw my case even came in so whehn they did all i did was plop it in there and start it up

>tfw not living in us
>tfw next-day guaranteed shipping
>tfw never NOT get stuff I paid for the next morning
must feel great with all that freedoms n shit
not getting the services you paid for

When I built my first mid to high end system this ummer I could only afford 1 part a week. Started with the cheaper ones like the case, the motherboard, RAM. Had to hold out multiple weeks when it came to the graphics card, but when the CPU cooler, and CPU were the only things I needed I flaked and bought them together. I think it took me like 3 months or so.

>>58432318
>he says sitting, living in a country probably less than 1/30th the size of the US.

>>58422849
877-CASH-NOW

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>>58426212
I'm making an i5 6500 / RX 480 build, I bought this PSU, it's good enough right?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gyJwrH/antec-power-supply-tp550c

>>58422833
>Radeon

Lol you fucked up

Still waiting to replace my phenom II x4 970. When will AMD be good again

>>58425600
>AYYMD
Ftfy. Pig is best grill.

>>58423234

>tfw fall for the 128GB meme

>>58429772
> grape.jpg

>>58422833
>Buying technology products named after weapons

>>58434782
Me too man want to replace my 965be

>>58422833
>ordering online instead of walking to the store
hahahaah fatass

>>58423234
All I see is a huge waste of money.

>>58428934
>This won't get any replies because the guy he was arguing with just got BTFO

>mfw 750w supply
>mfw single gpu setup, default overclocking on CPU and gpu
>mfw no fucks given

This supply was cheaper than 600w supplies and has lasted me 5 years so far. I have no complaints.

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>>58425920
>tfw you tell yourself you're going to SLI eventually but deep inside you know you're never going to do it

>>58425920
>tfw 500w
>no need to go more than that

A good PSU will last you ten years.

A PSU will be most efficient at 50% of it's maximum load, so always buy a more powerful PSU than you need. That way, you save money over the decade you'll use it.

A good PSU should have a 10 year warranty, so you know you won't have to buy another one for another decade.

A more powerful PSU than your current needs also gives you ability to upgrade in the future. Who knows what you're requirements will be from now and into 2027.

Your new PSU should have been opened up and recieved good scores by professional PSU review sites like jonnyguru and others

The fan bearings should be rated for 10+ years of continuous use.

The capacitors should be 100% Japanese, so they won't degrade prematurely and be rated to last within spec for 10+ years.

Some reading material on the latter point:
http://www.rubycon.co.jp/en/products/alumi/pdf/Life.pdf
http://www.johansondielectrics.com/ceramic-capacitor-aging-made-simple#.Um_e0fmkr9k

With all this in mind, there is only a few to choose from. One of those is the EVGA G3 1000W.

>2017
>buying consumer hardware
You deserve to lose every penny you shell out for overpriced gamer garbage. 10 year old servers cost $40 and have two (2) or more high end CPUs and a shit ton of ECC RAM.

>>58440976
>A PSU will be most efficient at 50% of it's maximum load, so always buy a more powerful PSU than you need. That way, you save money over the decade you'll use it.
see
>>58425784


You do NOT want your maximum load to be 50% of your PSU load, that's a total waste.

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>>58441081
>You do NOT want your maximum load to be 50% of your PSU load, that's a total waste.

Jokes on you, I run my machine on maximum load 24/7.

>>58441149
If that's true you probably shouldnt be running a consumer PSU anyway and should be using redundant server PSUs or similar setup.

>>58426293

What is enough amps on a 12v anyway? I haven´t found a clear answer to this anywhere.

>>58441537
A * V = W

so a 500w PSU should have at least 450w on the 12V rail, and preferable closer to 500w, the closer the 12V rail is to the rated wattage, the more likely you're dealing with a high quality unit.

So for a 500w PSU you would want to see a single 12V rail have anywhere from 37-42 amps.

>>58441591
>tfw 25A

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>>58441591
MFW i just checked and my 1000W has a +12V Rail Rating of 83.3A.

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just pretend your phone is t0p gaymen computer by putting your butt in your own butt and fucking your butt from the inside while humping your butt from bpth sides ??1

>>58441646
Yeah that's the sign of a garbage unit, unless it has multiple 12V rails.


2 12v rails at 25A isn't terrible if the company who designed it isnt a garbage company.

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>>58441739
>only 999.6w
>not 1000w
shame

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>>58441899
>only 999.6w

I wonder if this fact would trigger someones OCD.

>You are now aware that your PSU is always <250/350/450/500/550/etc watts.

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>>58441950
Yeah I can't really talk shit, I only have 49A on my 12V rail.

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>>58441968
>588 W

>>58442012
Titanium rated though, so it's 90%+ efficient at least.

And it's only rated at 600w, so it's not exaggerating too badly.

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>>58422833
>Buy Zotac amp extreme 1070 on Sunday
>expect it to ship Monday or maybe Tuesday
>Monday nothing Tuesday nothing wtf where is my shipping email??
>check shipping info
>deliberately not shipping until Friday for no reason at all.
Every fucking time i buy something from amazon instead of 3rd party sellers. IT's not coming until the fucking 18th 10 fucking days for no god damn reason i fucking hate amazon.

>>58442366
lol where the fuck do you live?

I bought two things on amazon this morning and they already showed up.

>>58422922
>I5-6500
Dumbass

>>58441775

It claims to have multiple rails and that maximum power can be delivered on a single +12v rail if needed

>>58442977
That's not TOO bad, most single components wont use more than 300w at a time.

>>58442366
They do that on purpose if you get free or less then best shipping. Amazon gets money from shipping costs you know.

>>58443378
If you get amazon prime you dont have these issues.

2 day shipping is free and shit always shows up in 1-2 days.

Same day shipping is $6.

My 7700k won't show up till after the weekend I think I got every other part though..

My PC wattage is around 385w, but I use a 500w PSU. should I upgrade ?

>>58425333
kek

>>58427749
>quotes a post telling OP to no listen to /g/ because it is full of moron who don't know what they are talking about
>proceeds to give OP shitty advice because he is a moron who doesn't know what he is talking about

You can't make this shit up.

>>58427974
>he still lives with his mother
Worthless NEET loser.

>>58423234
I hope you didn't pay more than 200 dollars for that entire build, it's complete garbage.

The most I would pay for all of those parts combined would be 150

>>58428547
>Pay for a blowjob
>Get kicked in the balls instead

inb4 "muh false equivalence", OP hasn't received what he paid for.

>>58425333
kekkles

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149KB, 800x820px

>>58422833
MORTARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

WATCH OUT GUYS. SOMEONE CALL CNN, THIS MAN HAS A MORTARRRRRRRRR

>>58443488
this. i live near three amazon facilities and with my prime most things come in one day.