Linux Gaming thread For a long time I was planing to fully

>>58401126
didnt read this
>>>/v/

I don't know why the HDMI would make the performance drop. I never game on Linux, but if this is true then someone should find a solution. I have never had the problem, but..

>16.04

why do you have the old version? Do you game on a server? The so called LTS or "stable" version are mostly for servers who need to be on 24 hours per day and that rely on long term support. Most people don't rely on that because most people can just update to the newest supported version.

Even if you are new you likely can use the newest version without much problems.

>>58401174
I chose the LTS because I wanted maximum stability and better support and to avoid problems like HDMI tanking performance for no reason :))

>>58401241
The only game I want to run doesn't use DX12 and it requires practically no power. Ma laptop is supper underpowered and I was having performance issues on Windows because it is a power hog compared to XFCE.

>>58401270
Windows 7, w10 sucks, Linux isn't quite there in gaming performance yet, although depending on what you want to run, you can check if it is compatible with wine, if not try w7

>>58401241
Simply booting the OS with nothing open uses 2GB oh ram (I only have 4GB and can't upgrade cause they are soldered in)

>>58401225
>I chose the LTS because I wanted maximum stability

Are you going to keep your computer on for years at a time?

>and better support

The newest version have better support. LTS is just for people who can't take the chance of upgrading their OS every year.

>and to avoid problems like HDMI tanking performance for no reason :))

Then the newest version would be better because if they find a solution then you can get it straight away. Now you might have to wait until april 2018 (next LTS version) to get it fixed even if they find a solution tomorrow.

>>58401296
I only play Factorio and it has a Linux version,
You should try it too :)

I'm using gpu pass-through with an Windows vm
No problems so far

>Are you going to keep your computer on for years at a time?

Actually yes I was playing to use it till it breaks so I hope at least 5-10 years.

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What have you been playing on Linux lataly /g/?
I've been enjoying the shit out of this one.

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>proprietary Intel graphics driver

Never heard of such a thing, I thought Intel contributed to the kernel and Xorg etc and support HD graphics that way (and the drivers have been kickass thanks to good funding and company culture, btw)

>>58401241
>>58401296
>not realizing that windows itself uses more system resources than the game that op wants to run
>AMDGPU-PRO, Nouveau, and mesa run better than ever
>valve themselves saying that Linux is the future of gaming
>the PS4 runs the Linux kernel and the GNU userland
gg no re

>>58401363
*lately. I can't fucking type sometimes.
>>58401126
Does it do the same in other games? Or just factorio?

>>58401320
If you say that I should move to a different version, is there any way to do so without a full reinstall ?

>>58401366
I had the opensource driver but after the HDMI issue I tried installing the Linux driver from the Intel website Ubuntu says it's proprietary

>>58401401
Yea, apparently there is such a thing but it's only for new hardware. Didn't know.

>>58401401
>I had the opensource driver but after the HDMI issue I tried installing the Linux driver from the Intel website Ubuntu says it's proprietary
Huh.. Swear I saw a thread a day or two ago where some guy was having trouble installing this driver on ubuntu.

Maybe try mint, OP.

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>>58401373
"the PS4 runs the Linux kernel and the GNU userland"

>>58401442
Is it similar to Ubuntu? I'm a bit of mood in Linux, how are the Mint forums, are they friendly or do they hate newcomers?

>>58401443
>>58401241
>>58401373
Why does every thread have to have OS fanboys? go back to /b/ or fucking reddit with that shit. We are here to discuss gaming on Linux, not the relevance/quality of various operating systems.

>>58401363
HLD is pretty fun, but not as long as I'd like. Been enjoying the Total War games myself. They run fairly decently on skylake integrated graphics.

>>58401485
mint is easier than ubuntu, especially for proprietary shit
and they hate jews

>>58401126
>Linux Gaming thread
Played a game of total annihilation yesterday through wine and it worked flawlessly, no graphical glitches or crashing like you're liable to get on windows 7
Also an old 4x game, star trek: birth of the federation worked, stellaris and m&b:warband worked too
Should really get around to testing more games.

>>58401485
Mint is pretty similar to ubuntu, being essentially derived from it, but I think it looks nicer and so far I've had no compatibility issues and it's fairly customizable.

>>58401363
Factorio for LIFE !!!!!
ITS SOOOO GOOD AND Addicting!!!

>>58401499
>mint is easier than ubuntu, especially for proprietary shit
>and they hate jews
Also yeah, this.

>>58401499
Sucks then :)))))
I'm a Jew :))))

>>58401126
>>>/v/

>>58401487
It's more that the comment is incorrect.

>>58401487
>gaming in linux
it's shit, simple as that.

>>58401503
I've been meaning to get that one. I've watched a few youtubers play it and it looks really fun with a high skill ceiling. Rimworld is interesting too, though I'm not sure that's on Linux.
>>58401485
Mint is Ubuntu with a different desktop and integrated proprietary drivers. the community is smaller, but any infor from the Ubuntu forums will likely translate 1:1 to Mint. it's a solid, no-fuss distro for gaming.

PC is not for gaming, especially linux.

>>58401528
You should definitely try it out, this is one of the only games where you say just 5 more minutes and end up playing for the rest of the day

>>58401527
I'll spoonfeed you this once, provided that you agree to fuck off elsewhere.
People use the OS they like or that fits their needs. For some people, that is linux.
Those people may want to play some games on the side. For those people, there are games on linux.
Nobody is saying Linux has more games or better graphics or anything like that. Nobody cares. People just want to enjoy games without having to install another operating system.
>>58401522
>It's more that the comment is incorrect.
Fair enough. Even if it were true I can't see why anyone would care.

>>58401511
Well you need to reconsider your life choices.

>>58401566
Totally agreed, why do I want to have an extra partition for Windows + it's boot loader if all I want it to do is play a single indie game which runs on Linux aswell and is less power intensive than Windows itself.

I want to switch over to linux fully, and I have for a few weeks but I got back into Space Station 13 and couldn't stay on linux due to the fact that BYOND doesn't have official linux support beyond as a dev/hosting environment. Tried running it through Wine but it can't contact the servers that way.

>>58401373
Wine is buggy as fuck, most of my games don't run, it would be the future if people developed games in it

>>58401628
Vulkan is the future
Linux gaming for the win

>>58401511
They don't hate jews. The lead dev thinks Zionism is inherently racist (which lets face it, isn't so crazy) and that the modern state of Israel has fucked the Palestinians and shouldn't be supported by western democracies(more controversial, but I'm sure you can understand the opinion)
>>58401628
Native ports are even better, but i'll take a well implemented wine wrapper any day.

>>58401126
Any word when civ6 is coming?

>>58401126
Has Factorio ever gone on sale? It didnt go on sale on Christmas?

I really want the game. Is it really worth 20USD

>>58401816
no

>>58401816
It is worth more than 20$. It looks like a small indie title, but it has soooo much content and I already spend over 100 hours in the game. They have a free trial to see if the game is for you.

>>58401816
It doesn't have DRM, just pirate it.

>>58401846
Okay buy me it

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>>58401126
>stalker source code was "leaked"
>someone is working on a linux port
Can't wait

>>58401816
the dev's had a lot of issues with the last steam sale in regards to fraudulent credit card transactions, I doubt we'll see it on sale any time soon.

its well worth 20 bucks, I've sank hundreds of hours into it. no drm either you don't really have to pay

>>58401877
>>58401834
>>58401816
>>58401846
literally just pirate it like >>58401847 said

>>58401941
SUPPORT THE DEVS DUDE LIKE IF WE DONT GIVE THEM MONEY THEY WILL STOP MAKING GAMES BUY IT FOR ME

>>58401877
I'll buy it for you I promise
But you solve the issue I have with playing it on the HDMI monitor
Deal ?

>>58401980
Deal
http://steamcommunity.com/id/VeryRummy/wishlist

>>58401969
man even i didnt buy it why would i buy it for you. plus money is tight im moving out and going to uni i gotta save all my money and only spend it on important things until things settle and i know my budget

>>58402010
>im not important
I will send pics of my bp

>>58401969
The deal is on, find a solution to my issue (I'm the original poster) and I'll buy the game for you on steam or from their website or I can just send you 20$ through PayPal.

>>58401816
last winter break I went onto a factorio bender for three weeks and did nothing else. Ass cysts aside it's extremely additicting. Im burnt out now though and have no interest to go through the exact same game again, but more efficiently this time.

>>58402021
Need more deets

>>58402000
Well you find the solution first ;)

>>58402000
>VeryRummy
you ought not to have done that

>>58401126
Im decided to nuke my w8 install to run a qemu-kvm setup with vga passthrough. Wish me luck boiz

>>58402046
Why

>>58402034
I need details on the problem

>>58402032
OK what do you want to know ?
I'm running Xubuntu 16.04 on a MacBook air 11" early 2014, dualbooted with Windows 10. I installed Compton to remove screen tearing, without it the issue was the same but had a shit ton of screen tear and even more instability

If anyone wants to get the 20$ or the game and requires more details here is my email: [email protected]

>>58402067
>>58402067
>>58402032
OK what do you want to know ?
I'm running Xubuntu 16.04 on a MacBook air 11" early 2014, dualbooted with Windows 10. I installed Compton to remove screen tearing, without it the issue was the same but had a shit ton of screen tear and even more instability

If anyone wants to get the 20$ or the game and requires more details here is my email: [email protected]

>>58402108
So you are having problem with Video? Have you installed drivers for your GPU?

>>58402111
I hate MacOS and anything apple related, the only reason I have this Computer is because it was a free find. It wasn't working, so it was brought to me to fix, I fixed it, but the owner never turned up to take it back, my personal laptop broke down so I just took this one, wiped the drive and installed Windows and Xubuntu.

>>58402125
Yes I have the latest proprietary driver from Intel's website, the issue was the same with the opensource driver

>>58402152
INSTALL A DIFFERENT DISTRO

>>58402155
I can't use MacOS for many reasons, one of them is that I need my laptop to be able to access all filesystem, NTFS, BTRFS, ZFS, and HFS+ I do data recovery for people in my spare time

>>58402172
I can give that a try but that's not a solution for the problem, you could also propose to buy a different computer or just use the built in screen on which it works fine

>>58401241
>wasting hours to make an OS usable
Fuck off wincuck. You could use that time to learn how to use something other than winshit and have an actually good and stable OS.
>dx10
No fucks given

>>58402175
MacOS can't write to NTFS natively

>>58402199
I can't have a grid of multiple desktops, only a line, this is a big minus for productivity

>>58402199
No window Snipping, have to manually resize them all the time

>>58402183
It is a soloution install Fedora 24 not 25 and I will help.

>>58402213
This is not a thread about OS choice it's about Linux gaming

I'm not complaining, I'm trying to solve it, I'm offering 20$ for a solution

>>58402225
If you drag a window to the side of the screen, it doesn't expand it to half of the screen it just drops it there, If you click on a window behind it doesn't bring it to front,
Basically I hate the Window Managers in Linux you can change your Window Manager and make it do what ever you want

>>58402258
Well Linux has enough benefits for me to live with its issues

>>58402287
Ok forget about that feature, although I hate it's window manager,
The laptop they produced in 2014 has only 4GB of RAM and just running osx eats up 1.5-2

>>58402319
I had osx on it, it run poorly

Okay buy me factorio now
>>58402319

>>58402366
OK what's your solution which doesnt involve changing OS ?

>>58402384
KEK
E
K
When people get triggered:))

this thread has metastasized

>>58402389
sudo apt-get Gentoo

I run manjaro with xfce just fine. I have passthrough set up since wine sucks as does dual booting. Works great. Many of the games i play already have linux support too. Anyhoo performance with passthrough is pretty god damn on point imo if you have a haswell or newer cpu.

>>58402417
Kek
I don't get the whole obsession with Gentoo?

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>>58402457
I will tell you, give me Factorio and I will install Gnu/linux

>>58402489
Nah find solution first and I give you Factorio

>>58401914
I think you mixed something up. Factorio devs say that the game is worth 20 and so it won't go on sale for a long time, because they feel that is unfair to people who paid full price. Maybe they added that if you see the game for less than 20$ it's probably stolen.

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>>58401241
>uninstall cortana

>>58402258
The only alternative to Linux is mac, and it's not worth the money.

>>58402518
Okay. Try install libgl and mesa

>>58401511

Der ist Schuld am Kriege!

>>58402519
Factorio is worth more than just 20$

>>58402538
I already have it installed

>>58402570
Install allll 32bit libraries.

>>58402558
Buy it for me. Think of it as a donation

>>58402544
MacOS is the garbage os

>>58401126
>>>58402570
>Install allll 32bit libraries.
What a solution, not like it would make it worse because of conflicts between different libraries

>>58402590
Kek
Mac-cuck detected

>>58402601
Do it.

>>58402634
All ???
How much space would that take ?

>>58402643
No no no no

sudo apt-get install ia32-libs

sudo apt-get install lib32stdc++6

sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 /usr/lib

>>58401126
What does your xorg logs say about your second screen?

>>58401386
http://askubuntu.com/questions/240160/can-ubuntu-server-10-04-4-lts-be-upgraded-to-non-lts#240189

>>58401373
The PS4 firmware is based on FreeBSD, not GNU/Linux. It does NOT use the GNU userland nor does it use Linux as its kernel.

Moreover, if the PS4 were to use the GNU userland, its firmware would be subject to GPLv3, forbidding Tivoization. Given we're not allowed to tinker with the firmware ourselves, they'd be breaking the license terms.

>>58402671
I will try this when I get home, post steam name or PayPal just Incase it works and I get you factrio

>>58402743
http://steamcommunity.com/id/VeryRummy/wishlist

>>58402751
I'm boarding a plane now, will be home to test this in 6-8 hours

>>58402766
Okay, dont crash.

>>58402717
Thanks I'll try that

>>58401719
There's nothing wrong with this opinion. Many people were opposed to what Germany was doing back then too. Most jews are anti-zionist too, there is a big global structure (Neturei Karta).

Trying to make any anti-zionism sound anti-semitic is another of the Hasbara zionist strategies. Don't fall for it.
>>58401847
will do.

Anyone with kubuntu? I can't install steam, and there is no reason why it can't. Can't DL it either even if I download Ubuntu Software center.

>>58402544
In this case there's no reason not to install mac. And this is coming from a Linux user. MacOS has been designed to work as good as possible with that hardware. I doubt either windows or linux would run better on it. Remember that apple is lazy and limits itself to only a few pieces of hardware, this gives them much more time do develop an OS good for it. If you were stupid enough to buy a Mac then use MacOS.

>>58402777
>trips
Rip plane

>>58402795
Why can't you download it from the website? What errors are you getting?

>>58402558
Yea, but they also don't price regionally. So for somebody is US 20$ is chump change, in my post-commie-block country 20€ is a little under AAA prices.

>>58402795
Don't ubantoos have repos for that?

>>58402850
Buy it on the US site

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> tfw

  ~ glxinfo | grep "version"
server glx version string: 1.4
client glx version string: 1.4
GLX version: 1.4
    Max core profile version: 4.1
    Max compat profile version: 3.0
    Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1
    Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.1 (Core Profile) Mesa 13.0.2
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.10
OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.2
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.30
OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.0 Mesa 13.0.2
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.00

Its fucking R9 360, not even some hopelessly ancient shit. Even more, fglrx last update was in 2015 and it isn't compatible with x.org > 1.10 so it's useless on modern system. AMD Support outside windows ecosystem just sucks.

Is gaming hopeless on a distro which does not deal with deb packages?

>>58402937
No. Just do LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/steam-runtime (archive comes with most games shipped by gog, unpack to home folder and preload when starting any downloaded game). You wont feel the difference.

>>58402937
nah, I've been gaming on arch for years now

>>58401373
Thazs why valves shitbox failed horribly and games ran much worse on it than windows?

>>58401126
>proprietary Intel graphics driver
What.
Can't find anything about this after a quick search. Sauce?

>>58402855
Not in kubuntu for some reason. If i get the ubuntu software manager there's an entry for steam but the download is empty. An apt-get yields nothing.

>>58402840
Sorry, yes. I can download -and even install- from the website, but then it did nothing. It just occured to me that I should launch from terminal (sorry, I'm new to linux). It gives libgl errors related to my graphics card. I'll try and get new drivers.

>>58401373
>valve says linux is the future of gaming

They only did that because out of fear of the windows store. Since windows store didn't become a big thing they pretty much gave up on the SteamOS shit because (as expected) it was crap.

I don't know why people praise valve these days. They're a fucking shit-company that sells DRM. They haven't made a good game in over 10 years, and every project they've tried to push on the consumers have failed. If valve is involved with something, steer away.

Only reason valve is relevant is because of their co-operation with HTC Valve and the fact that they keep your entire game collection hostage so you can never leave.

>>58402881
>outside windows ecosystem
please, i installed windows partition for games just to break whole install with radeon driver update
at least catalyst on gnu/linux is """stable"""

>>58402881
I don't see what the problem is. Seems completely fine.
Is OpenGL 4.1 not enough for you? You wanted the new extensions they recently got to Mesa?

>>58402976
Fuck steam runtime. They got outdated libs, I swear to god 50% of the shit that uses SDL requires for me to override lib path so thst they will work with pulseaudio. Other shit is also broken like Borderlands 2 not starting with steam's libstdc++/libc.

>>58403004
Literally everything valve does fails or is just never finished.

Installed steam on arch yesterday and I'm positively surprised, that I can play 105 out of 192 games I own on steam. Thought it would be a lot worse.
But to be fair, a lot of them are indie games. Have someone experience with playing AAA games with Wine.
How big is the performance loss?(Just curious, I dont own the hardware for AAA games)

>>58403056
He's just downloading free one from Intel's site

>>58402937
Not really, but you might have to fuck with .so files a bit.
For me almost all problems I ever had with it were solved by either deleting a redundant .so that was actively making everything worse or editing a retarded LD_PRElOAD or LD_LIBRARY_PATH. The only exception was when I decided I REALLY wanted to play Linux this 15-year old ported Alpha Centauri natively for some reason, and even there I easily found old libstdc++ in my repos and it worked perfectly fine once I said Alpha Centauri to use it.
And my dorm neighbor actually managed to get rid of Steam runtime completely with some Arch AUR package, and he said then he stopped having to fuck with Steam too, apparently. It was only recently, though, so it may still break.

>>58403246
Fact that many games hardly depends on that ancient versions of this libs.

>>58403131
They were overall beneficial for Linux gaming, digital distribution is the way of the future (even if DRM is objectively shit, and Valve capitalises on it) and the games Valve did were really good too. Steam itself as it's implemented is about the best thing we have too.
But yeah, Valve is obviously not the same by this point. They're probably past the point of no return.

>>58403267
Depends on the game.
Basically, it can be just as fast as on Windows (or even faster at times if Linux superior memory management actually matters in this game), slightly slower, extremely slow, fast but with artefacts or just plain don't boot, all depending on the particular bugs this game happens to trigger.
I think most games nowadays are either just as fast or don't boot at all. Depending on your luck and how much you're willing to screw with trying to make game work.
Not that I tried the entirety of Wine game library, but D3D9 implementation in Wine is pretty full nowadays, there are very few fallbacks, so mostly if it doesn't work, it just doesn't. D3D10 and D3D11, too, mostly don't work at all, though it seems soon they will actually be turned on in stable.
WineDB can tell you about a particular game. It's user-managed, though, and also the information in there gets old pretty quick, since Wine is changing constantly. Still, if it got a "Gold" in 1.5, it will probably work fine in 1.9.

>>58403239
> Is OpenGL 4.1 not enough for you?
It's not 4.1, it's basically 3.0 with "some features" of 4.1, not full compatibility.
> You wanted the new extensions they recently got to Mesa?
All i want it's just run games i want to run. But all i got is:

  Victor Vran ./start.sh                                   
Running Victor Vran
Language: English
failed to execute exe: 'xmessage'; wd: '<no wd>'; cmdline: ' -center -title Error -buttons OK You need an OpenGL 3.2-capable graphics card to run this game.';


Stopping the game threads from the Lua side.

  Victor Vran MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.3COMPAT ./start.sh
Running Victor Vran
Language: English
failed to execute exe: 'xmessage'; wd: '<no wd>'; cmdline: ' -center -title Error -buttons OK You need an OpenGL 3.2-capable graphics card to run this game.';


Stopping the game threads from the Lua side.

(Corrently completely failed to run: Dying Light, Victor Vran, Nuclear throne. Everything else (tested Don't Starve, ETS 2, Factorio, RimWorld, Shadow Tactics, Giant Machines, Stellaris, the Dwarves) is sort of fine).

>>58403460
I thought nobody uses the compatibility profiles anymore anyway.
Core has features that compat doesn't have too nowadays, features that make it more performant, it's more streamlined overall. It was designed to be overall faster and have less garbage extensions clogging it. It isn't like if it doesn't support compat version, it's not "really" supporting this version of OpenGL. Linux drivers in particular kinda skimp on compat support, since it isn't as important and requires more manpower compared to core.
Tough luck if the game you happen to run decides it needs compat, though.
Can you force it to use ES somehow, or do the games not support it?

>>58401306
>2017
>4GB ram
stop being poor?

>>58402191
>run 3 programs
>hours wasted

>>58403626
Well, now it is plenty of

ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.

warnings with segfault at the end. Maybe it is possible to run. I'll continue to search the solution, thank you.
>>58403548
What fun about proprietary software – you never know which flags/options it supports. You can only assume.

>>58401126
>I was gonna ask whether there is a way to optimize it better for graphics, I installed Compton and the proprietary Intel graphics driver and I have no issue while I'm Gaming on the built in monitor, however if I attach an HDMI monitor and game on it CPU frequency drops to 0.80GHz and my FPS drops drastically.
Hmm.. Check what the temperature gets to when you're doing this. Are you playing it on a higher res with the external monitor? Making the computer do more work for the higher res might be causing it to overheat and force-underclock.

>>58403851
I deleted the post since the errors he got seemed pretty different. Don't know, though, might be worth to try it.
In any case, the error message obviously tells you there was a mess-up with 32 and 64-bit libraries. Not sure on what side. Is the game even 32-bit in the first place? If it is, it needs 32-bit libraries. If it isn't, it will throw errors on them. Not sure whether libstdc++ needs to be the same bitness, though.

>>58403851
https://github.com/steamtricks/steamtricks

Run this.

>>58401747
Announced today:

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/exclusive-civilization-vi-now-fully-confirmed-to-be-coming-for-steamos-linux-and-soon-too.8860/

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>>58403896
Then I did most obvious thing just to be sure

../steam-runtime/run.sh ./start.sh

and... Holy cow, it works!

>>58404066
Im just too used to overthink simple things. Fuck.

>>58404066
>../steam-runtime/run.sh
What is this? I'm just curious.

>>58404090
It's a script intended to automatically preload set of libraries that came with gog edition of Shadow Tactics: blades of the shogun.
I saved this folder in separate directory for fast access because it turned up to be usable to run other games as well.
Here's public available version:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime
But it seems slightly different from what i see locally.

>>58404168
Oh, OK.
So it was an issue of libraries after all, not of OpenGL version. Hope your other games will run now too.

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>>58404186
It would be too good to be true. Dying light still complains.

>>58402881
It's ubuntu?
1 - why don't you add the padoka stable ppa?
2 - is AMDGPU PRO available for your gpu?

>>58404247
Try the MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE, maybe?
Otherwise, dunno.

>>58401126
Just install 8.1, man. The whole graphics stack of desktop Linux is deeply flawed, and it will stay that way until maybe, MAYBE Wayland takes off and the proprietary drivers start supporting. I used Linux in 2008 but somehow it only got worse since then.

>>58404388
Um, it actually got better, a lot.
Not saying that the graphics stack isn't deeply flawed, but it certainly improved a lot.
Also, AMD and Intel open-source drivers are alright too, nowadays, you're only stuck with proprietary if you're on NVIDIA.

>>58404272
> It's ubuntu?
No it's fedora.
> is AMDGPU PRO available for your gpu?
In experimental branch, yes. In version that is In official fc25 repository – no. And i do not aware how to properly replace gpu drivers by hand.
>>58404303
Tried it
-> >>58403460
I see black screen, white progressbar at the bottom. I hear sound, i can even travel through (as memorized from windows version) menu by the touch. Bit no video at all. Just black screen.

>>58404522
If it's showing artifacts, then it probably does actually need all the outdated compatibility extensions in there.
Tough luck. Might be worth it to try out AMDGPU-PRO, as anon said, I think they have a separate OpenGL stack from Mesa, so they might support more or less than Mesa. Probably more of compat, at least.
I think you could also try combining open-source AMDGPU part with proprietary AMDGPU-PRO userspace stack too, if you don't want to use closed kernel drivers. I have no idea how to do it, though.

lmao call me when Overwatch works on your special snowflake distro, nerds

>>58404735
>playing overwatch
lol.........?

>>58404735
>paid paladins
>paying for a shit game of a shit genre

>Linux Gaming
K E K

Once linux becomes actual usable desktop OS and then nvidia/ati see that's it's profitable to make actual drivers for this piece of crap - then MAYBE it could have a few more games on it.

Forget it for the next decade though, these tiny steps that include releasing 3 decent games to be available on linux didn't do shit for gaming on linux.

>>58404735
Andy why would we call you? Why would anyone?

>>58405789
> "driver development"

> what is amdgpu-pro and what are nvidia's proprietary drivers

> "3 decent games"

> about half of Steam games support gehnoo plus lineucks

Micro$hill detected

>>58401126
Nope. Do NOT make GNU/Linux your gaymen OS. Apart from the smaller number of native games, performance is generally worse than Windows.

>AMD FOSS drivers
GUI just werks, but in-game performance a shit.

>Nvidia proprietary drivers
Don't just werk, but in-game performance is decent.

>Intel
Just werks, but shit performance.

Even if the drivers are decent, some games are either buggy, badly optimized, or use a wrapper, in which case you might as well dual boot Windows or run Loonix in a VM.

>>58401126
Any good multiplayer in that game?

How hard is it for people to just use fucking Windows 7? The choice is not W10 vs Linux. It's like people see the newest shit and forget the past 10 years of what they just had that worked perfectly fine.

>>58402056
you do know you could have kept using the same installation in qemu, right?

>>58405789
>ati
Are you a time traveler?

I fucking hate windows 10, but only about half of my games are linux compatible. I'm probably going to try and setup a VM with gpu-passthrough.

will i have any problems doing this with my hardware? 6600k and RX480

>>58406166
What about AMD proprietary drivers?

>>58406288
But yet Windows 7 will die one day. And it doesn't seem for now that W10 will be a good successor, in many ways.
And the thread is not about that anyway.

>>58406427
Last time I used them, they were released so slowly, so every new Xorg release would break compatibility with them. Not to mention performance was still pretty bad (slightly better than open source drivers).

I think AMD is unifying the open source and proprietary drivers or something, so I'm not sure about now. You can always check Phoronix for benchmarks, though that website has a lot of shitty clickbait and literal blogposting.

>>58405789
It only really need popular games instead of shit that no one cares about like Mad Max and Tomb Raider.

>>58402191
>wasting hours to make an OS usable

You're referring to Linux when you say this, right?

>>58406648
>If it's available for linux it's thrash.
>t. butthurt windows fanboy.

>>58406755
>You're referring to Linux when you say this, right?
Unfortunately we're at a point where setting up a linux machine is much easier and faster than a windows machine while not needing to defend yourself from your own software provider. As stated, drivers from AMD which was the missing piece of the puzzle are shaping well but they need more work. I have an nvidia card and the proprietary driver was easy to install and i haven't got any kind of problem.

>>58402799
I didn't buy it, it was broken and in the garbage, I fixed it, now I have a laptop, the problem is that anything but Xubuntu is too powerintensive and I can't be productive

>>58403665
Yup I'm poor
At least it's a Mac kek
On the other hand I have a killer desktop with 32GB, 4790k @4.8Ghz on water, r9 390x

>>58408233
>water cooling
>amd
lol your dumb

>>58403892
That's what I thought
But I checked the temps and they are in the low 50s, however the CPU is only running at 0.80Ghz and at 20% load, the second I disconnect the cable it boosts to 2.40gz and 80% load and I get smooth 60fps gameplay

>>58403949
Linux gaming for the win
Opensource master race!!!

>>58405789
>>58406166
>>58404388
OS fanboys give it a rest
I'll spoonfeed you this once, provided that you agree to fuck off elsewhere.
People use the OS they like or that fits their needs. For some people, that is linux.
Those people may want to play some games on the side. For those people, there are games on linux.
Nobody is saying Linux has more games or better graphics or anything like that. Nobody cares. People just want to enjoy games without having to install another operating system.

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I havent't played a "proper" videogame that wasn't someone's else console for years.

But I like puzzle games.
Recently downloaded world of goo, since i remember it fodnly when I played it few years back. Works fine.

>>58404388
Well if I play on the laptop monitor I'm getting better performance in linux than in Windows, it's because the game is not powerintensive and it's windows crapware that is slowing down by using up too much system resources

>>58406166
I'm just trying to play 1 game - Factorio, and im already getting much better performance than in Windows,

>>58406248
Multiplayer seems great, (many YouTubers have fun series about it), I really want to try it out myself but none of my friends like it cause its strategy and not a AAA shooter

>>58406288
This tread is about Linux Gaming, not about *switch to Windows* bullshit

>>58406413
Probably not, however depends on what games you are playing and at what resolution

>>58408250
Nah only the CPU is water-cooled

>>58408468
those were separate memes that you fell for, i wasn't implying that you water memed your crap gpu

>>58408328
Fuuuuck I loved that game
It seems so old though
I might get it again though
Does it run on Linux ?

>>58408476
Lel but I have a stable 20% overclock on my CPU with the water cooler

>>58408512
you could have that same overclock on air with a ~$40 cooler
you fell for the meme

>>58408523
Shit he could probably do it with the stock cooler and a stronger fan.

>>58406000
>using amdgpu-pro over glorious radeonsi
mesa even has radv

>>58408530
Actually no I tried that
I'm running at 90C now and that's with a 280mm rad with 2400rpm fans

>>58408580
>90C
>with water cooling meme
hahahaha holy sh*t

>>58408493
>Does it run on Linux ?
Well I just posted a screenshot of it running.


Here, enjoy.
Does it run on Linux ?

The're an archieve called lib fix. If the game doesn't start just use the included files the replace those in the game directory

>>58408530
With a stock cooler I was thermal throttling while stock >>58408586
Well it's stable so who gives a shit

>>58408601
>literally killing your cpu
>"who gives a shit"

>>58408493
>>58408599
I'm fucking retarded, didn't past the download link

http://www84.zippyshare.com/v/So5OiPaf/file.html

>>58408599
Nah I meant is it on steam ?
Of course it will run on Linux if you configure it properly, anything can run on Linux if you make it work :)))

>>58408609
Well I only run it like that when I need to render, otherwise I back it up to 1.28V @ 4.7Ghz and get like 65-70C max

>>58408617
Thanks man, gonna check it out later today

>>58406000
>> what is amdgpu-pro and what are nvidia's proprietary drivers
>what is shit frames and frametimes due to gpu vendors not giving a fuck about shit linux thus producing shit drivers

>>> "3 decent games"
indie games don't count as decent, and those 2033 and bioshock titles nobody even knows they exist

>> about half of Steam games support gehnoo plus lineucks
>Steam games
lmao
What, like Dota, TF2 and CSGO, all three of those that run worse than on Windows?
>Micro$hill detected
delusion detected
>>58406648
That's what I'm saying but these retards are like "LOL whole steam library is ported to lincucks"

Look fuckers, I've tried and it's a shitty experience so I'm not shilling anything.
WINE is a buggy piece of crap, it might work for some 2D games where performance is not important.
Some native games play """decent""" but there are other issues like framedrops that make it a worse experience.
Plus I had to fuck around with compositing in XFCE to make those games even barely playable because it's broken from the start.

I was actually determined to give it one last chance by trying to setup PCI passthrough but whole system broke before I even had the chance to try.

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>wine is a buggy piece of crap
no it's not.
it's reverse engineered windows because if they dared to use any of the windows components they would be sued to high hell by memesoft.

it's an impressive project for such small team of developers.
you'd wish you did done such productive project instead of wasting time on videogames

stop trying to sound smarter than you are

>>58401126


>I was actually determined to give it one last chance by trying to setup PCI passthrough but whole system broke before I even had the chance to try.

PCI ??? What you in the 19th century?

>>58408789
You're right, it's impressive but that doesn't make it good. At least not for games which is what is being discussed here.
also
>dx9
>2017

>>58408793
xd

>>58408724
Intel and Nvidia performance is the same across Linux and Windows.

AMD is the only one that fails to support cards and provides terrible performance and stability.

It isn't a matter of Intel and Nvidia having their fare share of problems and people ignoring them, they literally work and AMD doesn't.

>>58401373
>>the PS4 runs the Linux kernel and the GNU userland
source? PS3 ran FreeBSD, so somehow I doubt the PS4 is different. Unless you meant the homebrew scene getting it to run GNU/Linux.

>>58401241
Thnx I was actually wondering if you could just disable the data mining on win10 instead of setting up a new os. Thnx anon.

>>58403004
>valves shitbox
They just sold regular computers with a slightly tweaked Debian. Not sure what they could've done wrong in your eyes.

If games run worse on GNU/Linux, it's due to a bad port. Games properly ported (e.g. Left 4 Dead 2) will always run better on GNU/Linux, because it's a better operating system.

>>58408867
PS3 doesn't actually use BSD thats just what BSD people like to pretend. Its tinfoil shit.

>>58408886
>Games properly ported (e.g. Left 4 Dead 2) will always run better on GNU/Linux, because it's a better operating system.
this so much.

some lol game worked better on ubango too

>>58401126
I have made an attempt at doing exactly that. It isn't ready. It's getting very good but it simply isn't there yet.

I would say keep dual booting and playing as many Linux games as you can, but otherwise don't punish yourself by limiting your options. It's not going to change shit.

>>58408860
>Intel and Nvidia performance is the same across Linux and Windows.
No it isn't
2 weeks ago when I still had linux, playing CSGO I get almost half the fps that I get on Windows with frequent dips below 100fps on 6800K and 980 Ti
And that's also with compositing disabled and other "tweaks"

The only thing that I was actually excited about that whole experience is that alt tab was instant whereas on Windows it takes like 2 seconds to get back in the game.

I really wanted it to work, I rarely play new games and I was hoping this old game and engine that has been on linux for so long would actually run decent but I guess I was expecting too much.

>>58402937
>>58402976
>>58403246
>>58403348
on arch there's a package called steam-native that sorts this all out for you, it's really comfy

>>58408887
Pretty sure it's built on top of FreeBSD.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_system_software

I mean, it only makes sense. They don't have to go through the trouble of writing their own kernel from scratch, and they can turned their consoles into useless DRM shitboxes because of the permissive license.

>>58408953
There is no evidence to support those claims.

>>58403949
>https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/exclusive-civilization-vi-now-fully-confirmed-to-be-coming-for-steamos-linux-and-soon-too.8860/

FUUUUUUCKKK YESSSSSSS

>>58409060
I'll buy a new GPU just for that.
Civilization is pretty much the only game I still play, after XCOM 2.

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>>58408969
Shown: IDA dump from the PS4 kernel.
Not shown: Explanation of the similarities between the PS4 kernel and FreeBSD 9.0, used in developing the exploit for it -> https://cturt.github.io/ps4.html

>>58409113
Wait, you said PS3, not PS4. While there is no conclusive proof for PS3 running the entirety of FreeBSD, at least some code was used -> http://doc.dl.playstation.net/doc/ps3-oss/freebsd.html

>>58409128
More precisely, the behaviour of the TCP/IP stack has been shown conclusively to match FreeBSD's, so at least the networking code must've been heavily based off it.

>>58408969
I don't know what you hope to achieve with the tripcode

but so far in multiple threads you have proven yourself to be the guy that says stupid inaccurate shit with zero filter

are you certain that's the reputation you want? consider going anonymous

>>58402725
>Given we're not allowed to tinker with the firmware ourselves, they'd be breaking the license terms.
Technically, no - they could do what Apple keeps doing and use the GPLv2 versions of the software - though that'd be shooting themselves in the foot due to the list of publicly known bugs for them.

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>>58409170
>I don't know what you hope to achieve with the tripcode
Attention and becoming and Internet celebrity.

>>58408860
The Intel Windows driver is very different from their Linux support, which is largely based on Mesa and benefits from the code it shares between its hardware drivers.

Many recent GL features aren't really about hardware support but making the API suck less and cleaning up 20-year old mistakes. Intel doesn't care about OpenGL on Windows so their proprietary support for this stuff is often buggy and/or slow, assuming they even bother to implement it.

There are pretty serious performance differences too --- not surprising when the whole driver stack is different. From my experience the Windows driver is often faster, probably because of better shader optimizations (obviously fragment shader bound test programs sometimes run way faster on Windows). Guess there just aren't enough Mesa devs focusing on that.

Also, Linux tends to have fucking abysmal support for GPU (and other) power saving features --- they might sort of work on that one Google-branded laptop and its specific kernel version but good luck getting them working on anything else. These can significantly affect performance on laptops with temperature issues.

>>58408911
Agreed ! But I'll still try to take as much as I can out of Linux and I'm willing to tinker a lot to make things work

>>58403246
>>58403327
I actually had to delete most of the Steam runtime and write protect its directories to get Portal 2 running on Debian unstable a while ago. The libraries are getting pretty damn old; starting to wonder what the hell Valve is planning (if anything).

>>58401126
Is this about FOSS games?

If so, check out http://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=3710&sid=ad3a5cb42c2083191262ded4fa963c23

>>58409569
How about a simple checkbox that says "run game using OS libraries" in the game properties dialog?

>>58409948
Would be nice to have I guess, but if you're having library issues with games chances are the whole Steam client won't start without STEAM_RUNTIME=0 or steam-native, which often breaks the embedded browser (probably has far more library dependencies than most games) and may cause other issues.

Unless they want to fork the userspace even harder or start static linking everything they're going to have to figure out how old distros are too old.

Some games I played recently that ran fine. (some were on R9 380, some on Intel)
- Dota 2. It's just fukin perfect even using Vulkan.
- Hotline Miami 2
- Rimworld
- Shovel Knight
- Kerbal Space Program

Also some open sauce memes:
- 0AD. AOE style RTS. Still in alpha but relatively good polish.
- Zero-K. Supreme Commander style RTS. Shit polish but interesting nonetheless.
- ETLegacy. Muh nostalgia.

>>58409569
>tfw 2012 was 5 years ago
hori shitteru

>>58403131
Linux is probably the future of gaming.

>>58407699
>>If it's available for linux it's thrash.
>>t. butthurt windows fanboy.
No, I only use Linux anymore, even for gaming, and I have about 300 Linux games on my Steam account.
But I would rather have GTA 5 working than all those ""native"" Saint's Rows.

>>58401890
muh dick

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>>58408886
>Games properly ported (e.g. Left 4 Dead 2) will always run better on GNU/Linux, because it's a better operating system.
The truth has been spoken

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>>58408838
>dx9
>2017
>Defending a lock-in mechanism and attacking the efforts to overcome it instead of supporting open and multi-platform technologies which increases competition and benefits the user.
why? one thing is using what is available and you must use and a different one is actively supporting being screwed on purpose.