/hpg/ - Headphone General

FLAC is a literal meme and there's no audible difference compared to V0

>>58370574
the fuck is v0 my nigger

>Budget
<$100 flexible but no more than $150
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfortable enough to leave on for hours at a time preferably but not a dealbreaker if I can replace the pads.
>Sound signature
Neutral probably
>Past headphones
Don't remember exactly, just a few different pairs of cheap <$30 headsets.

I'll be using them for games mostly so a good soundstage is a must, removable cable is definitely prefered, any advice is welcome.

Also, any recommendations for a cheap mic under $20?

>>58370697
MP3 V0 otherwise known simply as MP3 VBR

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So I just received this beauty and they're amazing so far, let's see what the burn-in does.

>>58370702
AKG K550 mkii or K553
Pretty much the best closed backs for gaming unless you're wiling to spend like 500+ bucks on those Fostex massdrop exclusive memes with the wooden earcups.
The mkii was recently on sale for like 90 bucks

>>58370702
K553 is known for a very good soundstage for closed headphones, however I'd suggest M40x with HM5 pads

>>58370830
>>58370702
>I'll be using them for games mostly
actually nevermind, you don't want neutral for games so don't get m40x

get DT770 with a sony ECMCS3 or ZMMIC1
alternatively, get a hyperx cloud 1, which already has a detachable mic & comes with both pleather & cloth pads

>>58370702
M40x + HM5 pads.

What type of microphone are you looking for though.

>>58370860
>you don't want neutral for games so don't get m40x
what
why would he not want neutral for games

>>58370754
My dream headphones. I would do anything for those.
Do you own the DT990? Can you draw any comparisons?

Also take pictures

>>58370878
because you want v shaped for games

>>58370926
Not really. Low end muddies up footsteps and gunshots. Recessed mids makes said footsteps/gunshots to hear, and highs are w/e.

Unless you want immersion, but even then, the signature you enjoy music with will do fine.

>>58370892
Yeah I do, I haven't listened much yet but for a first comparison, the treble is more tamed and midrange is more prominent, bass is also surprisingly punchy. They're also more comfortable and better built, but that's to be expected.

>>58370963
i want them so bad it hurts

>Budget
<$100 ideally. If you think I should really get something a little bit more expensive feel free to suggest though.
>Location
California
>Source
Cellphone with no amp probably. I'll be listening to lewd ASMRs
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
blah
>Comfort level
Should be comfortable to leave in for hours, or fall asleep with them in
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Closed full size:
MDR-V6
SRH940 (currently using)

IEM:
Some shitty pair I bought for 760 yen to play rhythm games with

>>58370986
>or fall asleep with them in
That's a fucking terrible idea and whatever you buy will break in a month.
Just pray it doesn't break inside your ears and leaves the nozzle inside.

>>58370968
Gonna see if some glaring issues pop up but so far I'm very content, 500 euros well spent. They also look and feel expensive and the package plus accessories are great, you even get another pair of earpads.

>>58370986
I never understand why people don't use speakers on low volume for this

>>58371031
he doesnt want his neighbors hearing his weaboo autism asmr

>>58371036
buy some sound isolation?

>>58371051
'buy sound isolation'
w-what

sound is isolated with a seal and mass
he'd have to seal all his windows/doors and/or add a ton of large heavy shit to his house's walls.

>>58371031
The binaural sound is important, you need stereo headphones to recreate the sound

>>58370995
Okay, I can just be careful not to fall asleep then

oh fug am i retarded i'm studying impidence at wiki and can't understand properly.

am i understand it perfectly?
i just want play gaymen and music better sound.

>>58371117
what

>>58371117
fix *have to understand

>>58371100
p-put one speaker at each end of the bed

>>58371064
I don't see the problem

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>Get HD600
>HD600/650 has been around for years, but gets discontinued days after I buy one
>Will probably be replaced by something better
>Mfw

>>58371366
>discontinued meme
Fuck off. Just like Sony V6 is discontinued. No it isn't. HD600/650 is even older and classic god-tier status.

>>58370697
A quality preset for LAME encoder. Highest quality variable bitrate option which averages around 245 kbps. Generally transparent, good enough to never have objectionable compression artifacts.

>>58371236
It's not the same
I won't be able to feel a succubus whisper sweet japanese in my ear before fellating my ear canal

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Anyone had any experience with Sennheiser HD 518? How are they? I guess they won't be good for gaming?

>>58371673
Are you a competing FPS player?
Probably not. Any audio device is fine for gaming. Worry about music.

>>58371366
Sauce?

>>58371786
game of thrones

>>58370564
OriGen+ is god amp/dac

And WS99 are godphones


get in my level bitches!

>Budget
300 flexible.
>Location
US of A
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or Closed
Either is fine.
>Comfort level
Very comfy. I should be able to wear them for hours without any problems. The previous ones I had would make my ears hurt just after about an hour of use.
>Sound signature
Whatever's best for anime and Vocaloid stuff and maybe some rock although the previous headphones that I had were too bassy I think so I'm leaning mostly towards neutral but I'm not very knowledgeable about all this so I'm really leaving it up to you all for judging whatever's the most ideal sound signature for me.

Thank you.

>>58370564
>etymotic and sennheiser are the only males
snappheiser and eardildos are gay

>>58371978
>Males
>Not short haired girls

>>58372023
ety boy is like some gender bender yaoi dream from the 90s because of those tits

>>58371686
>>58371673
Theyre too good for gaming IMO, with gaming you can use shitters like hyper X clouds and still sound ok. At least most of games, except doom and bf4, battlefront and dice games in general which have amazing sound design and dynamic range.

How is Beyerdynamic DT 880 250 Ohm for FPS gaming?

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Gave these a long listen.

Honestly I thought the silver bars on the side were THICC hard metal, but it's this hollow aluminum maybe? Doesn't feel as nice and the microphonics on it are crazy.

>>58371903
>the previous headphones that I had were too bassy
Don't leave important shit out if you want help, which headphones?

I'm still undecided between:

>hyperx cloud (66€)
>dt770 pro (122€ + 7€ ZMMIC1)

I need them for streaming and not to sound like a butt trying to spell words
games and heavymetal music
I've read negative reviews for both the zalman and the hyperx microphone

how's the general build quality?I'd like them to last
I'm reading around and it seems these hyperx are good for real despite the price tag

someone who got both can help me choose?

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Beyerdynamic DT 770 or ATH M40x? for watching films. I like the various cables that ship with the M40x but the quality of the DT770 seem to be better

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I'm planning on buying DT 770's but I am not sure about the impedance I will need.
I have a Xonar DG so i have some sort of amp, and i also don't mind spending a little more later on on a real one.
As a bass player I will also use them on my bass amp. I am sure that thing will drive anything, right?
I don't plan on bringing them outside so phone and laptop should not be an issue considering the impedance I will need.

What I want are the best DT 770's I can get.
So my question is, am I better of getting the 80 Ohms and be safe or get the 250 Ohms and have a slightly better headphone at the risk of needing an dedicated amp.
Also, are the differences between them even worth consideration?

I now own a a pair of HD 558's(mod). I do like them but I want a slightly more fun headphone that is also closed and better suits my bass practice needs.

>>58373052
>i bought this shit headphone because of its planar magnetic driver technology
>hey at least i can mod it to sound acceptable
never mind the shit construction and sensitivity

if there's one headphone "hype" i do not understand, it's those. and the new focal flagships.

>>58373069
Some cheap Philips, nothing worth mentioning.

>>58373205
the ZMMIC's sound quality is great, IMO a bit better, but the build quality is ass. the clip broke for me in like six months or so, but my headphone cable is pretty big and the mic still works fine, but it's having trouble staying on there

the DT770 build quality is far superior to the hyperx cloud

If you're streaming, you might want something more serious than either of those mics though
look at something like a yeti snowball

>>58373278
770 has a better sound profile for movies

>>58373327
80 is best bet, because there might be a time you want to take it on the go with your DAP/Phone/laptop

>>58373342
it is worth mentioning because people might know how bassy they are in relation to other headphones, and as such they might be able to know what amount of bass is too much for you personally

previous headphones isn't to judge you for your bad taste or your mistakes, it's simply to see what you had before and what you disliked or liked about them so you know what to look for differently in other headphones

>>58373346
>>58373346
>80 is best bet, because there might be a time you want to take it on the go with your DAP/Phone/laptop

As i said, there is not.

>>58373334
Sound is definitely not a complaint
And got it for cheap, this is a fun ass tinkering project

>DT770
>DT770
>DT770
Fuck you guys

Budget
$100 max

>Location
USA

>Source
Phone and laptop

>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfortable to use for a few hours

>Sound signature
Neutral

>>58373688
Shure se215

>>58370754
Are they as modular in terms of replacement parts as the 990s?

>>58373688
>>58373719
2nd. Shure se215 are great value.

>>58373789
I assume so, everything is detachable and has the same size the rest of beyers do.

Are planars just another jew meme?

>>58371903
Hd600

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>Headphones

What does it feel like to have such a tiny amplifier?

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What am I supposed to be plugging into these two things

K240 or SHP9500?

>>58373334
Then explain why MadDogs and Argons sell

>>58373830
Stick to your dynamic drivers poorfag

Does /hpg/ crossfeed?

>>58373830
No. It's a cool technology that has its upsides and downsides, much like everything else.

Biggest downside being cost of course.

Both planars and electrostatic attempt to solve the biggest problem with normal, dynamic speakers/headphones, which is the distortion of the diaphragm's physical shape.

Does it make an audible difference? Sure. It is justified? Probably not, unless you are wealthy enough that an extra $1000 means nothing to you.

>>58373659
Dt770

how do burn-in?

>>58374001
Really?

>>58374527
yea I have no idea. do they come with the purchase

>>58374508
Don't listen to anyone telling you to leave them on for hours or that shit about pink noise - it's a bunch of rubbish.

Here's the proper way to burn in headphones:
Slowly move a lit lighter in a circular motion beneath the outside of each driver for about 2 minutes each - make sure it's close enough for the flame to contact the surface of the headphones.

The heat will loosen the driver's internal materials, allowing you to attain a much smoother, more even sound without having to leave them on for days straight.

>>58374593
can you show me?

>>58374508
what burn in even does in the begin with? ruin the headphones? smoothen the bass? kills the sound?

>>58374613
>too dumb to follow simple instructions without handholding

I think an audiophile community like ours might be a little too advanced for you, kid.

>>58374645
Show me, Im enthusiast

>Budget
100 - 150 or less
>Location
US
>Source
PC + E10K
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I would be wearing them for extended periods of time.
>Sound signature
I guess V for gaming?
>Past headphones
Just bought SPH9500's not digging the loose headphones though or open back

hyperx cloud vs cloud II vs cloud core vs logitech g430

which one ?

also some reviews say that the mic is too quite, can someone confirm/deny ?

>>58374593
I recommend a candle.
Butane flames sometimes reacts with materials in the drivers
Candle flames leave a sort of residue that adds warmth to the sound

Can anyone recommend some pads for some Urbanite XL's? The HM5 pads seem to be far too big. The diameter of the cup is only about 3.5 inches - 89/90mm.

Got some noname headphones for christmas that literally were never mentioned on the internet, except for some stores selling them. How would I go on with testing them so I can compare them to others?

>>58374922
Listen to to something on them

Synthetic tests doesn't matter, what matters is how you personally like the actual sound of them

>>58370564
recently bought a pair of akg k550s and the left ear feels more hollow and kind of, I dare say it, broken. I've tried balancing the headphones and to some extent it's worked. The sound quality on my iphone is great, but my computer leaves a lot to be desired. Buyers remorse is starting to creep up on me, what do?

>>58374922
thye're shit. don't waste your time testing them.

>>58371366
One retailer has said HD650 is discontinued, no one has said HD600 is going to be discontinued.

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>>58374001

>>58375255
I also heard that HD5xx are getting the axe as well.

not a headphone question but:

when i'm not using my headphones I like to use a couple of speakers and a subwoofer but the set I'm using now the cable is starting to go and I have to wiggle and zip tie it in a precarious place just to get left and right.

is there a cheap set of 2.1 speakers i can get that won't make me cry? logitech or whoever?

>>58374166
Yes.

Sony V6 has it.

>>58374000
Most receivers have shit headphone ports, just so you know.

>>58371903
Anymore suggestions?

>>58375334
They just released a HD5xx refresh - HD 559, HD 569, HD 579 and HD 599.

>>58375488
We really need a speakers template.

>budget
>location - desk or living room
>amp or active

>>58370574

>>2017
>>still arguing for MP3
>>never going to know or understand the awesomeness that is 24/96

>>58375921
That's a great idea, but the /hpg/ overlords would probably just tell us to make a new thread.

>budget
$100-150? flexible
>location
desktop, home office
>amp or active
active. I want an amp but I haven't decided on one yet. I assume this is an annoying complication that I'd have to solve first so let's just say active for the sake of discussion. If I get an amp, I can always use that for headphones only.

>>58374001

One is your and the other is.

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>>58375929
>he actually thinks 24/96 audio makes a difference over 16/44.1

>>58375900
>They just released a HD5xx refresh - HD 559, HD 569, HD 579 and HD 599.
They were also getting rid of the stock during Xmas and were selling most of them for a huge discount.

They're dead just like HD6xx is dead.

>>58375960
Micca pb42x, add a sub later when you have the dosh.

>>58376036

I see the jimmies were successfully rustled. It's irrelevant what we believe. In a few years 24/96 will be default and nobody will be using/trading MP3 except for plebs.

>>58374681

>>58376454
dt770

>>58376479
am I able to change out the hideous gray pads?

>>58376519
No, but you can get the black version

>>58376593
ok, last thing though. Would 250 OHM's be overkill for just purely using them for PC music/games.

>>58376674
Some people claim that 80 ohms has the most low end and that the higher the 250 is the closest to neutral. The higher ohms will just be a little harder to drive.

>>58376761
>and that the higher the 250 is the closest to neutral
I mean to just say that the 250 is the closest to neutral.

What are some decent DAP's under $125?

So why does everyone choose DT770's over AKG K550's especially for gaming.

>>58377352
made in germany instead of china

look better

>>58377390
but in the sense of quality not hurr durr chink shit

>Budget
100-200€, flexible
>Location
Sweden (yes)
>Source
PC primarily, sometimes phone/console
>Type of headphone
Full-sized, around ear
>Open or closed
Closed, used for both travel and office listening
>Comfort level
I want MAXIMUM COMFY
>Sound signature
Don't know, not very important
>Past headphones
I've had a pair of ATH-M50 for the last several years, nothing else of note. I like the sound but I can't wear them for more than 1-2 hours before I need a break because of the clamping, despite stretching them multiple times. It's about time I upgraded to something much comfier with similar sound quality.

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was ordering these a mistake?

>>58371236
>I don't see the problem
Its expensive as fuck. That's the problem.

>>58377892
Why don't you wait for them to come in and decide for yourself?

>>58374681
Me again, i'm reading that in gaming the footsteps use treble and that the DT770's often have a hard time picking up on them because of the bass.

Would switching to the DT990's be better? that way i can keep the bass for listening to music and still have that treble.

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>>58370564
what is your opinion on the Brainwavz HM5?? seems like a pair of headphones you can buy and not regret for the price.

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>>58370564
CUTE ANIME GIRL WITH MY HEADPHONES WHEN?

>>58378038
Footsteps are more often in the mids rather than the highs. 990 has even more recessed mids.

Just slap an EQ on it and be done. I use my 770's for CSGO when I cant be bothered switching headphones. They work fine.

>>58378090
what do you use for an EQ

>>58378199
https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/
Peace EQ might work too though I havent used it.

>>58372265
I could get into that

>best bro somehow gets huge tits
>both get curious and wonder how it feels
>one fucks the other in the boipucci

thats pretty hot

philips l2 vs x2? difference? which to buy? which is better?

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do I pull the trigger

>>58378523
Some headphones are very sensitive to pad changes, so as long as you researched which pads are best for the m40, then it sure looks good.

Recently discovered a spider living in my sennheisers. Was wondering where all the bites around my ears were coming from. This is how horror stories about bugs living in your brain happen

I am sincerely thinking that I want to purchase the AKG K701 headphones. Does anyone have them and like them? Does your pair have a cord that ends in the 3.5 mm jack?

https://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-High-Definition-Professional-Headphones-Microphone/dp/B00F3F7316/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483780252&sr=8-1&keywords=M-Audio+HDH50

These were highly recommended by the Pastebin. Are they any good? I couldn't find the Akai MPCs that were given a slash by it.

I have a E10k to drive them.

>>58378542
long as they make the phones a lot more comfortable and sound the same or better.......then it's all gravy brother

>>58378772
>and sound the same or better
Yeah, I've heard some pads can drastically change the sound of some headphones for the worse, especially angled pads on some headphones. Just wanted to make sure he knew which ones were the good ones.

>>58378849
think I'll just go for the Shure 840 pads instead, cheaper and to be on the safe side.

>>58378942
There's plenty of discussion on it at other places, it wouldn't be too hard to find which pads work well. The angleds might work well, I don't know, I just know that I've heard some people say that certain pads can really mess up a pair of headphones.

>>58378090
alright anon im trusting your review as well as head-fi forums.

I went with the DT770 80 Ohms

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Have any of you bought this?

>>58378722
Seriously, no one can help me here?

>>58378722
going by the reviews on Amazon they are good.


it's up to you if you want to take a gamble on them.

>>58378523
Not sure why youre getting a new cable, but sure.

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Ignore the DT880, i got rid of it

>>58378722
Why do you want to choose these over something like 770's, M40x, or HM5's?

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>>58379301
>Z7
Anything you wanna know?

>>58379355
Pastebin reviews are good.

From the visuals, looks like it would isolate well, and the drivers look far from the ear, meaning a good soundstage.

They were on the pastebin and I can't find their apparent Akai MPC equivalent so I was hoping this thread would have some reviews.

>>58379414
Pastebin doesn't mean much. It just lists pros and cons, and then a final round up. Hardly a review, and you shouldn't just trust once source.

Driver distance from the ear doesnt inherently give soundstage. K553's drivers are right against the ear and have shallow cups, yet has some of the best soundstage of any closed headphone in their price range.

At your budget, /hpg/ rarely buys anything other than the well meme'd shit I mentioned before. For good reason. They're known to be great. I doubt the HDH50 significantly more than a 770 or HM5 enough to merit purchase. Check head-fi. They have a lot more of a userbase so odd shit like the HDH50 gets mentioned a fair bit.

I'll ask again since you didn't really answer. Why do you want to choose these over something like 770's, M40x, or HM5's?

>>58379414
>>58379527
>I doubt the HDH50 significantly more than a 770 or HM5 enough to merit purchase
Sorry, meant: I doubt the HDH50 isolates significantly more than a 770 or HM5 enough to merit purchase

>>58379527
No particular reason other than the pastebin said fidelity of the M-Audios was superior, I just like to consider my options compared to same stuff that always gets picked. Never know when you can find something nice for cheap.

It's why I'm still considering Superlux studio headphones.

Oh well, as far the M40's go I listened to my friend's M50s a short time after getting my K550s and just wasn't liking them that much. Don't know about the HM5s.

>>58378056
No real problems imho - I'm no audio expert and don't ever claim to be - so i'm going to use the buzzword ""WARM"" to describe the audio quality. I primarily used them when listening to record. Bass was my only problem - i'm not a bass fan though, usually I just used EQs to fix it though. Well worth the price, comfort is execellent and you get an extra pair of the pads too boot. Just keep an eye on the plastic. It's alittle weak and snapped on me after about 6 months. I managed to fix them with alittle glue but just keep it in mind

>>58370868
Something that could clip onto my shirt or headphone cable, a tabletop mic would get in the way with my current setup.

>>58379793
Sony ECMCS3
Pretty good little microphone. $17 USD on amazon.

>>58379400
How good is it, It seems like everyone hates the Z7?

>>58370773
Could someone give me some details on the differences between these, signature, soundstage, etc as they're similarly priced and how do they compare to the M40x?

Appreciating the feedback guys.

What's a decent sub $100 dac/amp? I'm looking at the fiio e10k or the SMSL M3.

>>58379940
Schiit Fulla 2

>>58371673
they wont be bad for gaming, but youre not going to get a straight answer for important game related questions like directional sound quality or anything from here.
snake oil, music clarity, and audiophile pseudoscience is all that goes on in this thread

not to mention nobody here seems to even comprehend what directional sound is or why its important.

>>58374001

They plug into each other, you need an adapter.

>>58379958
People have said the build quality isn't good.

>>58379871
It's easy to see why the community is so split
For this price you'd honestly expect something neutral, flat, etc.
I have plenty neutrals (Stax, HD600) and sometimes that can be boring, I like something fun too, but still premium

The graphs online on these are kinda exaggerated, the bass IS strong but DT770 is probably stronger

The overall signature however is pleasant and soft, this is one of few cans that don't give me fatigue, nothing is sharp or harsh, nothing is overwhelming. For extremely long term sessions these are my first pick. Don't mix audio on these tho

You won't find precision here, it's a bit lazy and loose, what you do get is comfort. Incredibly fucking comfortable and soothing sound.

>>58379994
Build quality is fine. Occasionaly the POT knob isnt centered properly, or is slightly off angle. You're getting a whole lot of sound quality for $100. Build is gonna suffer at that cost.

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>tfw quality hpg posters gone

>>58378254
no

>>58379019
no but i got etys, they are very close to one another and very, very good if you tolerate the fit.

>>58380038
I didn't see they came out with Fulla 2. Nice.

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Does anyone know anything about the Sony PHA-1A? Will it be enough for hd600? Asking because found them at half the price in my country.

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Why do these have such a following?

I got to listen to a pair of HD650 the other day and I wasn't impressed. They sounded alright but I can hear why people say it's veiled. What I really notice is how terrible the build quality is. Felt like the cheapest plastic from chinkland. They even creak when you put them on.

I don't get it.

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>>58380206
They can drive anything up to 600 ohms

>>58380242
top 10 most meme audio stats

>>58380242
Impedance means almost nothing alone in terms of an amp being able to push a headphone.

http://nwavguy.blogspot.com.au/2011/02/headphone-impedance-explained.html

>>58379301
You got rid of the DT880s, but kept the Sony XB and Fostex T50rp?
Why?

>>58380231
If you want to ditch HD650 build quality, you haven't seen Hifiman's, Denon or many other manufacturers headphones at same price point. But yeah, each of their own. I really like my HD650 with correct amp choices.

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>>58380242
Anything can drive 600 Ohms. That's how useless the stat is.

>>58380206
We actually do know as someone nice bothered to measure the device:

https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=cool_review&no=467

Yes it is likely good for HD 600. 2,55 Vrms is plenty.

>>58380343
Thank you! I was looking at the fiio E10k but I can't find it anywhere. Guess I'll be going with this.

>>58380343
>10 ohms output impedance
fucking awful

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but:

I have some spinfits that came with my iems. They seem to fit OK, but if I am walking around outside, after a minute or so they will "dislodge" slightly and come out, not anywhere to the point of falling out of my ear, but to the point of fitting less snug and the sound being at a lower volume.

Is the problem most likely that they are too big, and I should get a smaller pair that won't pop out because they are fitting slightly deeper in my ear, or that they are too small, and just aren't holding a tight enough fit to stay in place?

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>>58380422
Not awful but not ideal. Definitely should have done better but this is the usual Sony Zout you see from their products recently.

That Zout shows in the frequency plot already when loaded with MX 400 earbuds. Pic related is MX 400's impedance and phase from GE.

>>58380432

I'm gonna guess too large, but it's probably movement of your jaw that causes your ear canal to shift, leading to the lack of snug fit. I'd say get a set of different sizes and try them until you get one that fits. Do you have any foam or other silicone tips that you can try in the meantime to see if you have the same problem?

>>58378599
>spiderheiser
Not even once.

>Budget
£50-100 fixed
>Location
UK
>Source
PC, laptop and phone
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy enough for 3-4 hours usage
>Sound signature
Neutral

ER4XR or Audeze SINE
Please just pick one for me
please

>>58379568
Also they're all around the same price.

Basically looking for:
-small "kick" to bass, doesn't have to be a boom, just wanna feel something
-wide soundstage
-comfy
-good isolation
-can deal with how harsh I am on headphones (Beyers are winning out due to tank-like build quality)

>>58381078

ER4XR

>>58381114
Okay.

>>58381079
Sennheiser HD700

>>58380720
Assuming so as well. And no, but I'll try to get some, thanks.

>>58381251
except good isolation

>>58381297
And that price is prohibitive.

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really not digging the shallow soundstage on the memeheiser 598cs. are the regular 598 SE any better? any other sets that have similar audio quality but better soundstage?

I dont give a shit about sound leaking, but I need good surround sound for movies and music.

>>58381426
Open back will always have better soundstage than closed so yes, get the SE if that's what you're going for.

>>58381426
Sennheiser HD700

Soundstage on Beyerdynamic DT770s?

Also I have an E10k DAC, will that drive 250 Ohms?

>>58381426

Maybe fill out the form with the emphasis on what kind of headphone you want other than soundstage?

I love my 598SE!

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>>58374000
>tiny amplifier

>>58381078
ety

>>58381426
Better get the K7xx if you're looking for soundstage.

>>58381426
It's very difficult to get a good soundstage with a closed back. AKG K550s might be up your alley.

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>>58381582
you use it for movies or games? thats where im really seeing CS flaws. the lack of good sound immersion is really getting to me, if theres explosions going on in a scene, it basically blends together imo.

>>58381514
>Budget
$150
>Source
Computer
>Open or closed
open apparently?
>type
Full

primary focus is full headphone with surround sound for movies, budget is about $150 so the SE would fit, and its all plugging into a computer for source. The music on it is fine, which is why I thought the SE

Just really pissed how close all the sounds are in the CS, fired up a game just to test, and I could barely tell if noise was to my left or behind me until I jacked the volume.

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>>58381690
>Tubes

>Still small enough not to cover that record in its entirety

>>58381872
I use it for everything. Games, movies, music, VOIP, 3DPD porn, you name it. I'm coming off a Panasonic HTF-600s though, so just about anything else sounded better.

>No more than $200
>Primarily gaming and music listening, secondarily audio and video editing
>Source is Computer, Smartphone, being driven by E10k Fiio DAC
>Want closed back, high isolation
>Over-ear headphones
Preferences:
>Wide soundstage
>Small bass kick, don't want to shake my head, but "feeling" a snare drum would be a nice touch
>Durable, detachable cable (I'm harsh on my phones)
>Comfortable and good, soft pads for a nice seal. I have a sharp jaw and all my previous headphones have let air and noise in/out where my jaw is, especially on left ear, so I'd like to seal that up

Previous headphones were Superlux HD668Bs and AKG K550s (broken).

>>58381979
K7XX

>>58382084
Way over budget, open-back design. Not what I'm looking for.

>>58381979
m40x with brainwaves pads
many 3rd party cables for mobile use

>>58370564
Im in need of a good quality clip on mic. I currently have the Zalman-ZM1 or something and the quality just isn't good at all.

I dont want a massive mic like the BM-800. I just want a good clip on. Maybe even a high quality one

Fidelio X2's are great

>>58382507
mein neger!

DT770s for gaming?

I've heard reports the bass is too overpowering.

>Budget: 200
>Memfrica, United States
>Source: 5mm headphone jack
>Full sized
>Open headphones
>Comfort Level: At least 8/10, need to be able to wear for long amounts of time (4 hours or more)
>Sound Signature: V-shaped
>Past headphones: Seinheiser 800, and Logitech Wireless G930 (I know its shitty)
Thanks!

>>58382159
K7XX is $200 dumbass. Wait for it to hit Massdrop again.

I want bass that I can feel in my chest. Is the vmoda m100 good for this?

>>58378213
Peace works, its just a front end for EQ APO

>>58382845
They're still open-backed.

Can somebody tell me if there is a loud click in this clip?

https://0x0.st/fcI.flac

>>58383455
No, kys though, weeb degenerate.

>>58382525
Not really. The 770's dont have the same bloated low end like a lot of bass heavy cans do. They have more sub-bass than midbass and all that. They have a ton of kick due to it, which is good for vidya.

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I had the DT880 for 4 years.
What should I move unto next?
budget $250

>>58383736

Did you like or hate them? What did you like/hate about them?

FILL OUT THE FORM PLEASE AND THANK YOU.

>>58383736
Save up for an Edition X

>>58383747
I love them. But I could go with a something not as neutral.
ok ok
>Canada
>magni+modi - PC
>Full-sized
>Open or closed
no matter
>Comfort level
Hours upon hours so pretty high.

>Budget: 200
>Memfrica, United States
>Source: 5mm headphone jack
>Full sized
>Open headphones
>Comfort Level: At least 8/10, need to be able to wear for long amounts of time (4 hours or more)
>Sound Signature: V-shaped
>Past headphones: Seinheiser 800, and Logitech Wireless G930 (I know its shitty)
Thanks!

>>58383513
I'm leaning towards the DT770s a lot but people seem to have weird mixed reviews on them about what they're really good for. Some people think they're monitoring, some people think they're bad for gaming because of shallow soundstage and bass, some people think they're only good for listening.

>>58383955
I guess my only other question is if they have a good soundstage for positional audio.

>>58371673
They're pretty great in my opinion. Super comfy, I can wear them for days. An amplifier is not required, but it does provide a high sound quality nonetheless. There is a lot of sound leaking though, but that is expected of an open back pair. They're pretty good for gaming, music listening, and long hours.

>>58383916
990

>>58383935
>5mm

Fucking what?

>>58384287
a headphone jack, sorry for not being clear enough

>>58384311
there is no 5mm headphone jack

>>58384311
Sure you don't mean 3.5 mm?

>>58384311
3.5mm or 6.3mm, pick one

>>58384287
>>58384311
>>58384337
>>58384342
>Past headphones: Seinheiser 800
It's a bait.

>>58383935
>5mm headphone jack
1/4" - 6.3mm
1/8" - 3.5mm

Wrong timeline, ask your 4chan, not ours

>>58384349
>
3.5, sorry

>>58384355
the t.bone HD 800 not the sennheiser

>>58384377
SPH9500's or used X2s

>>58384388
Let me correct my stuff
>Budget: 200 dollars
>Source: 3.5mm headphone jack
>Open headphones
>comfort level: preferably 8/10, something i can wear for a long time
>Sound Signature: V-Shaped
>Past headphones: Absolute dogshit
Thank you and sorry for the confusion

>>58384422
>Source: 3.5mm headphone jack
That's not what source means.

What sound signature should I be seeking if my collection is mostly rock (hard, progressive, psychedelic, rock-oriented jazz fusion, alternative) and metal (progressive, technical, death metal - pick one or more)? It goes all over the place outside of those (lots of funk and jazz, among others) but I figure I can't get one thing that works well with all of them.

Something with boosted bass, I'm guessing?

I like velour better than pleather, but it's kinda itchy after a while. Is there a third option?

>>58384472
Lambskin

>>58384445
Neutral, you want neutral.

>>58384472
alcantara

Sorry again,
>Budget: 200 dollars
>Source: Computer, 3.5mm headphone jack
>Open headphones
>comfort level: preferably 8/10, something i can wear for a long time
>Sound Signature: V-Shaped
>Past headphones: Absolute dogshit

>>58384507
DT 990 or X2 if you can afford it.

>>58384507
DT 990

Retarded question: how am I supposed to wear headphones? Where they should they be positioned on the top of my head, and on my ears?

>>58384551
which one would be better? X2 or DT 990?

>>58384822
you have to experiment until they sound best to you

>>58384822

......

They are ergonomically designed (meaning that they are designed to fit you as a human being). You place them on your head and ears, they adjust them until maximum comfort, good sound, both or the best compromise that you can manage is achieved.

Seriously, I don't mean to rip on you or anything, but that's how it works.

>>58384831
X2 is objectively superior, DT 990 has harsh treble that many people dislike but that depends on the equipment, your ears, EQ, etc. X2 has a more refined sound with deeper bass and no spikes.

They're both very comfy and have good build quality but X2 wins due to better stock pads (memory foam and fine velour) plus detachable cable.

If you're on budget, DT 990 is good enough but without an amp, you'll have to sick with the lowest impedance version, which doesn't sound as refined.

>Budget: $250
>Location: Canadia
>Source: Computer, iPhone, possibly better portable music player?
>Type of headphone: Full-sized
>Open or closed: Open
>Comfort level: I will only have discomfort if the sound quality removes pain
>Sound signature: Neutral or not far off
>Past headphones: HD598

From this evening's research, I have taken interest in AKG K7xx, but am unsure on the necessity of amp/dac - haven't dabbled in.

>>58385036
7xx isn't neutral, it's bright with a bass boost
HD600 is much better if you want a neutral sound signature

both of them will MOST LIKELY need an amp or a good DAP

>>58385426
>AKG
>bass
Don't meme me.

I just got some sick bass cans

give me some bass music lads

>>58385458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R8xpW3dICA

>>58385478

holy fuck

based

thank you

>>58385458

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mllLBnykHZk

What headphones?

>>58385451
epic meme bro
posting this on 9gag right now

>>58385485
np anon. Here's another, the whole album is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAVTF8fJjk

do you need a amp/dac to power HM5?? how much better louder do they get over from just plugging into a PC.

>>58385555
>how much better louder do they get over from just plugging into a PC.
better, not much if any at all
louder, quite a lot

>>58385579
so worth just buying a dedicated amp then?? or you think it'll get loud enough just out of the PC??

>>58385599
95% sure it'll be fine without an amp, when you get it and you find it's too low for your tastes, it's not much effort to deal with the lower volume for 2-3 days while you order an amp

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This is my current mobile setup after I forayed into the world of headphone modding; and I'm loving it. I used to use Sennheiser PX100 (original) for on-the-go, and I continue to use NAD VISO HP50s as my serious cans.

Out of curiosity, I picked up a pair of Koss KSC75s for $12.50 on Amazon because I heard of their modding potential. I also got a $2.00 Parts Express cheapo headband that they clip right into to replace their factory ear-clips. I followed typical mods for these phones by drilling holes in the plastic diffuser over the diaphragm, which can be seen on the padless driver, and quarter modded the stock pads, and I was quite impressed. They are from stock naturally open, which is familiar teritory, but I'm used to a warmer, laid back sound and these delivered with quality and punch while also being very fun and relaxed. However, it was when I tried putting the thinner PX100 pads onto these that I was really blown away. It opened up the bass much more and made these cheap as hell headphones sound really well balanced.

Upon further listening and researching, the bass rolls off a good bit in the lower frequencies which gives it less extension than PX100-IIs, but the trade-off and price/portability/comfort to cost is ridiculous. I see why some people hail these as giant-killers, and even if they aren't, you'll have a hard time doing better for less than $150 imo.

>>58385458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riezARcGZtk

>>58385982
Koss make some great portable shit. My Porta Pros are my babies.

>>58386127
because they're brimmed with with shit?

>>58385982
What DAP is that?

>>58386135
It's an iBasso DX90 (~$350). Absolute steal for what's inside, it's got dual Sabre ES9018K2M DACs.

>>58386219
why would you need two dacs

>>58386223
to make use of his adc of course

>budget
<100 $ (300-400zl)
>location
Poland (ceneo.pl)
>source
Sansa clip
>type
used to cheap earbuds, preferrably quality ones like that that will let me hear difference in mp3 and flac(if it's even possible) or fullsized ones, hate earplugs
>open or close
I guess close since I will mosty use them in public
>comfort
High, don't want to sacrifice comfort for quality
>sound signature
Listening to all kind of /mu/ so i guess neutral
>past headphones
20 zl earbuds

For music only, want to try start hearing the difference between mp3 and flac

>>58386251
>want to try start hearing the difference between mp3 and flac
I mean if it's even possible in the price range

>>58386263
You wont be able to. Only certain sounds actually 'break' mp3. For 99% of music, MP3 V0 and FLAC are indistinguishable to the human ear.

Lower bitrate/poorly encoded MP3 is obviously discernible, but that's not the point.

>>58386343
Well, you say that, then I see people talking about how most people are used to "artifacts" and how flac(or just loseless format) is so much better. Now what is true.

>>58386380
Most of the sound quality issues nail down to poor recording practices. If the music was recorded improperly and with bad equipment, you're going to hear those artifacts and white noise regardless of the format. 99% of commercial music suffers from that.

>>58386380
Theyre drunk, and probably just trying to be part of the kool klub. The same thing when people claim vinyl is so much better than digital.

MP3 has been developed for decades to provide as close to lossless whilst still reducing file size. They're not jewing you out of your music. FLAC/other lossless formats are great for archival purpose, but they're useless for almost all music.

>pull a sound card out of a decade old PC
>get excited because I'm told on-board audio is bad and this ought to be better
>drivers all the way up to windows 10
>check the manual
>mono microphone input
>headphone jack: 32-ohm load

JUST. I'd ask you to subscribe to my blog but I think this'll be my last entry before I fucking kick the chair.

>>58386380
there's a challenge currently running of... 10000$? I think if you can tell the difference between high bitrate mp3 & flac in a blind test

>>58386380
>Now what is true.

What's true is that a ton of mastering, especially in some online store mp3's are garbage. Find a good copy of something and you won't care what the format is.

What really sucks is when you find the only release of something is halfassed or has no modern release and was digitized from used up tapes from the 80's or worn out records from the 40's, etc.

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>>58374714
>falling for the debunked butane meme in 2017
>wanting "warmth" over an accurate sound

Stop shilling outdated shit like candles and tube amps, you're ruining this general.

>>58386429
>>58386432
Well then, I guess I'll still want something better than the usuall cheap earbuds I use for years >>58386251

>look at all kinds of different well recommended headphones
>american reviews

"These are amazing for the price, only 500usd!"

>check price here in Sweden
>twice the amount

You americans are so lucky.

>>58386263
>I mean if it's even possible in the price range
It's completely unrelated to the price you pay for the equipment and very poorly related to the quality of the equipment you use as well. Compression artifacts are vastly different from the usual shortcomings of audio gear. They aren't masked away from the signal just because your equipment is shit. In some cases bad gear would make the compression more audible. I once had laptop speakers which made it easy to spot certain kind of mp3 artifacts because of their narrow bandwidth focused around high frequencies. They sounded dreadful, worse than good speakers in mobile phones nowadays. I think the entire premise of getting good gear just to hear audio compression, poor mastering or whatever detail in audio is a wrong way to start and largely an audio myth. It just doesn't work that way.

>>58386251
Comfort is subjective and I still don't quite get what kind of headphones you are looking for. In-ears? Earbuds? Any kind of closed back comfortable headphone?

The pads on my MDR-V6 went bad so I took them off while I ordered new ones, and, like, the bass is a *lot* punchier without the pads on.

>>58370574
It's not for audible difference, it's for future better formats such as opus.

>>58387029
Earbuds or closed back, not the ones you put directly into your ear, I find that very uncomfortable.

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>>58378058
>bump

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>>58387090
Here you go, buddy

>>58387069
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Venture-Electronic-VE-MONK-earbud-earphone/32417311324.html

+

https://www.amazon.de/Audio-Technica-ATH-M40x-DJ-Kopfhörer-Studio/dp/B00HVLUR54/

I've got a paid of Denon D2000 and I've been eyeing the hifiman series.

But after reading up on the D2000 after all these years since I got them, they seem to be quite praised.

Is it worth getting something like the HE-400i range?

>>58387069
MDR-7506 for neutral-ish closed back. M40X recommended by another anon isn't bad choice either but it's less flat. You certainly get better sound quality with these than earbuds.

Not too many neutral or decent eabuds out there. VE Monks seem highly liked, especially considering the dirt cheap price. Apple's EarPods are quite good as far as earbuds go if they fit you. Yuin PK1 is still likely the best earbud made but it's stupidly expensive for what it is and hard to get.

>>58387102
>>58387136
Thanks

>Budget
$300
>Location
US
>Source
Schiit stack
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Options for either appreciated probably open though
>Comfort level
Good but not at the expense of sound quality
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Meme50s

Thanks.

>>58387347
hd600

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I know, I know I've let you down.

>>58387833
>315MB
>7:46

So this is the power of 24/192.

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>>58387833
>315MB
>5671kbps
>192khz
Tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down

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What's hpg's thought about the pic related?
I can actually change them with amazon return system.
I'm waiting for Fiio X1 to arrive the next week.
Can you suggest me some other good earphones to combine with that DAP for mostly listen to electronic music in flac format?

>>58388449
Nice sound, terrible build.

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>>58388472
what would you suggest otherwise?
More or less same price zone

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What do you think about RHA MA750?
Are they better than hifi re 400?

So what you guys do with your old headphones?
I own a pair of K550's I haven't used in a couple months now but I don't want to sell them.

>>58388449
> Chinkfirman
Prepare to get chink'd

>>58383665
> xb1000
God damn I really want to try these. They look like the K550s with bass.
Some guy was selling them on the mexican ebay but I was hesitant to buy used headphones online. There's so much shit that could go wrong with them.

>>58388699
>So what you guys do with your old headphones?
You wrap them in bubble wrap and put into box? Or put them back in the original box?

Okay, I've changed my mind about WS1100is thanks to OriGen+

It's good

>>58387833
How can I create such a audio file?

>>58388699
Sell them.

>>58388948
Record one, create one or just resample existing.

>>58388973
>resample existing
will you teach me?

>>58387833
my man you need to stop

>>58370564
>Budget
75-150$
>Location
Europe (Netherlands)
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Good enough.
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Have no fucking clue, but around 50$

>>58389266
M40x + MSR7 pads. HM5 Pleathers if you cant find MSR7 pads easily or cheap enough.

>>58389329
>first result is someone changing msr7 pads for hm5 pads
https://www.cnet.com/news/the-20-headphone-makeover/

kekt & rekt

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So I was thinking of getting the Fidelio X2s but I heard about quality control problems where their factory started gluing the pads on. If I was to buy today, would this still be a problem?

>>58389445
HM5 pads distance the driver from the ear and can have negative issues on the sound.

MSR7 pads are the same size as M40x pads so they dont fuck the sound up, but are a decent bit comfier. HM5 pads are better in terms of comfort, but he only wants 'good enough'. Most normie plebs who havent used shit like nice AKGs dont really mind about stock M50x pads /tooo much/, so MSR7 pads are probably more than satisfactory if he values neutral sound over comfort.

>>58389476
No, new X2's don't have this issue.

>>58379802
Not him, are there any mics in a similar price range (€/$ 15-40) that do the job just as well?

I live in Germany and it's pretty much impossible to get them without at least 15€ shipping cost which makes their price/performance ratio irrelevant.

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>Bought Tesla T1 1st Gen
>Used for $500, condition seems fine in pictures
Did I do good, /g/?

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>>58386219
>>58385982

>$15 headphones
>$350 player

OK

>>58383665
Which 1nes r moost compfhy

>>58383665
the nigger godphones

New thread:

>>58391319
>>58391319
>>58391319