ITT we discuss what would happen If schools taught Haskell instead

>>58301571

Why should schools teach a language that has one foot in the grave already?

>>58301571
It would provide an easy to detect autism.

>>58301571
They wouldnt be able to. Schools are starting to become about making money and getting people out the door. Haskell would be too hard for average normie.

Some schools do/did, and it ended up being about as disastrous as teaching Java or any other language.

Good programmers will be good no matter what language they start with. Bad programmers will be bad no matter what language they start with.

>>58301602

This is happening in the Netherlands as well. Quality of education is lowered to deliver as many grades as possible because grades == cash.

>>58301571
less niggers and whites more asians would get through.

>>58301571
University of Edinburgh, University of Oklahoma, Oxford University, University of Nottingham, University of Gothenburg & Chalmers University of Technology and University of Amsterdam all have university courses in Haskell intended for people who have never programmed before.

Children would sudoku

>>58301635
University of Buenos Aires also has a Haskell course.

>>58301571
what kind of a shit school do you go to where they don't teach you at least all three major languages C/C++/Java, plus Python, plus a separate course for functional plus separate course on visual etc.

>>58301571
>>58302332
>going to university to learn a fucking programming language
desu senpai just kill yourself

>>58302293
Yes, many more universities than what I mentioned has Haskell in their introductory programming course.

I think it would actually be really intuitive and teach more about what programming is at it's essence if they taught LISP as a starting language instead of C++/C/whatever they teach

>>58301635
still haskell course in at least one of those is extremely easy. list comprehension is pretty much enough to pass.

>>58301635
University of Amsterdam has a course? Never seen anything like it.

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>>58301571
>>58301609
>>58301635

Utrecht University in the Netherlands has a mandatory functional programming (haskell) course in their BSc program.

Another optional course on Languages, Grammar & Compiler that also uses Haskell for everything.

I've done both... death inside already.

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>>58301571
Look, it's an employed Haskell programmer!

When Feynman wrote his lectures on physics, he wanted to change the way physics were taught on colleges. He wanted the top students to come out with a top tier base in physics and the rest of the class to know enough to get by until they had a chance to review the most difficult topics in later courses.

This is similar to teaching Haskell. The Feynman lectures tried to talk about advanced concepts (quantum mechanics) early on, while teaching Haskell early on would be trying to teach advanced concepts as well (comprehensions, monads, lenses, etc)

What happened was that the top students managed to understand everything, but the majority of the class (and it was fucking Caltech, not some random third world country like the universities named on this thread) got very lost and was able to understand less than what they would have understood under a normal course.

In Feynman's eyes, his experiment was a failure because only a handful of students got it. Teaching Haskell early on would be the same.

>>58302536
College should be all about weeding out the competent from the incompetent but as >>58301602 stated it's all about getting assess in the seats and getting dem gov't gimmidaks.

>>58302536
>not some random third world country like the universities named on this thread

Britain, the netherlands and sweden all have better standards of living than the US.

>>58302720
Netherlands and Sweden have much shittier universities than the US.

Britain is a third-world shithole, like the US.

>>58302671
No it's not college is about teaching people what they need to start working / doing research. You shouldn't need to be a genius to get a degree.

>>58301571
there would be a lot more drop-outs

>>58301591
fpbp

>>58302536
>Third world
>Sweden
Implying that pretty much every single country in the world is third world

>>58302872
No he's right, not everyone should be in college. The quicker you weed them out the faster they can find something in their lives that they're actually good at.

>>58301571
Cambridge University teaches Haskell as an intro programming course