Is Chiclet really that bad? I know Macs feel cheap and shallow,

The chiclet keys don't feel anywhere near as good as classic ThinkPads do, but they are still vastly superior to other keyboards.

>>58226969
Is it possible to use a old keyboard on it? seems to be similarly sized. are the connections very different?

>>58226640
it's the layout that's shitty

>>58227008
Agreed there, I like a full function row.
>>58227006
If memory serves me I believe on models like the T530+ and T430+ you can, but you have to remap them with software after installation
>>58226969
They feel solid and clicky on ThinkPads, but Dell HP, and Apple are a shit.

Didn't they make some kind of near-mechanical clicky keyboard for the old T60s?

>>58227076
>Didn't they make some kind of near-mechanical clicky keyboard for the old T60s?

No, it's still a scissor switch. You have to go back to the 90s for buckling rubber dome keyboards in ThinkPads.

The reason why the newer keyboards feel more solid is because they are now attached directly on to the rollcage which eliminates the flex that was often seen in 2008-2012 TPs.

>>58227006
Only on W230/X230/T430/T530, you can install the palm rests of previous models also and then everything fits perfectly.

After -30 they changed the shape and mounting points of the keyboard so it's no longer possible.

Remember Cherry keyboards?

Damn, man. THOSE were keyboards.

Who are the retards that decide which keyboard layout will best get the young kid demographic or whatever it is executives are after?

I don't understand why the fuck with layouts so much. It just seems so arbitrary.

>>58227285
Caught my old boss throwing one out and asked for it, he thought it was some old junk. So damn solid

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>>58227399
If my memory serves me right, they did it because they wanted to "streamline" the design language of the thinkpad line and make it more like a macbook.

My X250's keyboard perfectly fine. Not as cushy as the old ones, but I feel a bit faster on it.