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/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Miku tunes edition

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Last thread:
>>58194259
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Anyone in here got imod ?
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is massdrop hifiman 350 a scam?
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Picked up Fidelio X2.

Good sound, but for some reason I find it less comfy than my SHP9500S when wearing them for long periods of time.


Any idea why? Weight? Thinking of returning them
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>>58213509
I'm pretty sure paid orders were delivered and the product people got was the HE-350.
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>>58213418
>Budget
100-200 pounds
>Location
UK
>Type of headphone
Open
>Comfort level
top comfy
>Sound signature
balanced or v-shaped
>Past headphones
xiaomi piston 3 only, pls no bully
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>>58213544
why is it so cheap?
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>>58213525
Weight, more clamp, circle pads

>>58213563
Why do you think it is cheap?
It's about the same price as HD 598's when on sale, which are its main competitor.
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>>58213572
it's $300 RRP 67% off
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>>58213589
RRP doesn't mean anything. It has never been sold anywhere other than massdrop. It's just some arbitrary price they put up.
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post em fags
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>>58213609
so what you're saying is it IS a scam
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>>58213654
No, It's not a scam. Hifiman could technically recommenced the price be $300, and then just be like "sell them for $100 lol"

You get the headphones described.

The RRP on tons of other shit IRL is bloated. It's nothing new.
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>Budget
$50 or less
>Location
United States
>Source
Straight to desktop
>Type of headphone
Doesn't matter
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter
>Sound signature
I'm not sure, I don't know very much about headphones, but I wanna say neutral. I listen to a lot of black metal, ambient, jazz, and some hip-hop so if there's a certain sound signature you think might be best fitting then suggest it.
>Past headphones
Cheap garbage from Wal-Mart and Dollar General.

I'm not concerned about open or closed, and not very concerned about comfort, I just want the best quality I can get for my low budget. Could possibly go up another $20 or so if I'll get a substantial increase in quality.
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>>58213609
are you actually retarded?
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Hex guys, are fake shures (se215, se535) from aliexpress any good ?
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>>58213563
it's shit
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>>58213716
ofcourse not you inbred

when things are made to look like good things rather than be good things, good things don't magically happen to them
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>>58213712
Do elaborate.
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>>58213708
AKG K240
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what open headphones should i plug into my mp3 player?
im not a fag
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>>58213708
SHP9500 [a bit over budget, but worth it]
or Superlux 662 EVO
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>>58213708
beats
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>>58213650
Updated
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>>58213808
why do you need so many?
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what are the best earbuds money can buy? best value?
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redpill me on Sennheiser HD 598 open
they seem perfect so far
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>>58213743
I didn't ask if it sounds like the original. I asked if it's any good, like if it's absolute shit or would it be enjoyable for a non-audiophile.
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Thinking on buying the shillheiser momentum 2.0 tbqhwya familia. Are they any good?
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>>58213834
im no expert, but xiaomi piston 3 were good for me
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>>58213834
Fill out a form.

>>58213853
Low end can be lacking for some. They don't do well on outputs with high output impedances. 598's are just as good for ~20% cheaper.

Other than that, theyre pretty good.
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Which headphones should I get for listening to harsh noise and field recordings?
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>>58213763
>>58213791
Thanks, I'll check these out.

>>58213805
XD
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thoughts on usb adapters?
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The Audeze Sines are pretty dope
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>>58214029
They work
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>>58214029
That's fucking disgusting
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>>58214029
If you're going to go with something shitty like that, you might as well get an Audioquest Dragonfly
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>>58214046
>>58214060
>>58214068
>>58214029
what do you guys use for games consoles
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Where the fuck can I find replacement pads for X2? Are those chink ones from ebay made with nice memory foam just like originals?
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>>58214156
I still use my Pulse Elites. It's nice to have that dedicated bass driver but the hinges have a bad habit of cracking and being useless. They'd probably be my main pair if it wasn't for that.
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>>58214224
yeah, both hinges on my pulse's snapped, have sticky tape around them now. still work

the gold headset is my second, previous one snapped just below both hinges from wear&tear

Waiting for the X2's to arrive any day now, can barely wait
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>>58213832
because i have money to spend
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>Budget
$150
>Location
Usa
>Source
Motherboard sound card, also what is a good ~$50 Dac?
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High
>Sound signature
V shaped (mainly listen to hip hop)
>Past headphones
M30x, looking to upgrade
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>>58214624
dt770
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>>58214624
DT 770 [go with 80 ohm variant]
literally perfect for your requirements

50 Dollar DACs are kinda hard to come by. Monoprice one is currently reduced to $69, which is the best youre going to get for that price.

I assume you mean a DAC/Amp combo btw
a true DAC cant be used without an amp.
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Will this be a good match for HD600?
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>>58214782
Its a DAC
you don't match a DAC to a headphone
they aim to get as close to transparency as possible
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>>58214782
>>58214831
Wait, nevermind, I'm fucking retarded.
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>Buy pair of 558s as a replacement for old HD280s
>Just got them in the mail, try them out
>Way too much bass
Whoever told me the 558s were neutral is a dick.
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>>58215240
haha it's just warm leaning bro! you get a real smooth neutral listening experience! haha
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>>58213550
hd598
hd600 were on sale for ~200 might still be
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>Budget
120 Euro ~$125
>Location
Germany
>Source
Motherboard (asrock 990fx extreme3) will consider getting an entry level dac later if needed
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Audio quality should be the priority
>Sound signature
Either something neutral or something with prominent mids
>Past headphones
Steelseries Siberia V2 (I know, I know), Audio Technica ATH M40x

Also I actually live in Hungary but will most likely end up ordering from Germany. If you have some good recommendations that are over budget I will look for them in local stores.
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>>58215240
>Way too much bass
Ah, the upper bass. They have entirely too much of it. Coming from the HD280 it should be especially bad.

>>58213872
>598's are just as good
558?

>>58215970
>Steelseries Siberia V2 (I know, I know), Audio Technica ATH M40x
What do you think of them? Why the open headphone?
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>>58215970
Forgot to mention that at the moment I'm kinda torn between the DT990 and the DT880 from Beyer. The 990 is more open but the 880 is the more neutral of the two so I can't decide what to get. Other recommendations would be nice too.
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>>58215984
>>598's are just as good
>558?
yeah
sorry im retarded
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say i get a pair do I just plug and play
is there some program to tweak some things first?
do i need high quality audio source or normie shit like youtube will do?
talking about entry ones like 558 559 no amp/dac
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>>58214156
i use the fidelio/vmoda boom combo.

comfy/10
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>>58215984
The Siberia V2 wasnt all that bad, but it certainly isn't audiophile tier. It is very obviously targeted at gamers and because of that it looks but cringy? immature? not sure what word to use here, but I hope you get the idea. I ended up selling about 2 years ago so I don't really have any memories about the sound.

As for the ATH M40x, the upgrade was a bit overwhelming after the Siberia V2, but it was an upgrade nonetheless. It was more balanced the the Sibera which I definitely liked. I would probably still be using them but because of its plastic construction the tilting joint on the right side wore down...

I'd like some open headphones because I'm in a relatively quiet listening environment in most of the time, and sound leakage won't be an issue either. Also I want as big of a sound stage as I can get.
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are Beyerdynamic Dt990 the best value for money?
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>>58213808
Do you still have the Beyerdynamic DT880?
If so what do you think about it?
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>>58216250
I'd say X2 are right now.
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>>58216250
what are your criteria?

i swear, drunk people just constantly post stupid shit in these threads
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>>58216169
good to know anon
PS4?
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Are the sony mdr-ex450 good? Anything better for 30-50€?
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>>58216673
fill out the form
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>>58216567
Thanks for posting this, sph9500 looks like a great deal, but cant find there anywhere in EU.

>for muh game sense and muh instrument separation
are you saying I should rather be looking at closed headphones?
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>>58216147
>do I just plug and play
Yes.
>is there some program to tweak some things first?
Equalizer APO, or some other parametric EQ for non-Windows users.
>do i need high quality audio source or normie shit like youtube will do?
The differences in lossy coding aren't what you might think. Listen to whatever, the headphones shouldn't stop you.

>>58216044
>DT990 and the DT880
If you could get either, the DT880. They're both open, the DT880 hardly has the "semi-open" quality to it.
I don't follow the "soundstage" thing. It's dependent on the gain curve of the headphone, something that is modified by equalization.
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>>58216567
>tfw got the Hi2050's when they were like 35 dollars
Seems like they are like 50 and upwards now.
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>>58216744
Look for ISK HP2010
rebranded, though /csg/ says the quality dropped significantly

so its risky
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>>58216743
I might be retarded but I thought if you have open headphones you will have a more "airy" and "spacious" sound and it will be better at recreate larger soundstages?
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>Budget
max 100 euro
>Location
hungary
>Source
phone/pc
>Type of headphone
IEMs, cannot be simple plugin-and-go. I need over ear ones or something like the powerbeats.
So if I put it in, it stays in.
>Open or closed
-----
>Comfort level
I am willing to accept worse sound for comfort
>Sound signature
bassey, grimey
>Past headphones
had a few; monster, denon, jbl, senheisser, kz, more than 40 pairs. don't want to bore you lads.

extra points: changeable cable, looks good

Thanks for the help in advance
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>>58216691
>budget
30-50€ hard upper limit
>location
Europe. I can purchase from internet stores located in any State.
>source
Asus S56cm laptop, iPhone 5s on occasions

>type
In ear.

>comfort
doesn't matter as long as they sound good.

>sound signature
don't know, just well balanced I guess.

>past headphones
I've been buying repeatedly a 10€ sony model, ex10lp, because I used to break them often and didn't want to waste money.

Just some models I heard were good: Xiaomi piston 3, Hybrid, sennheiser cx300II, sony mdr-ex450. Ain't no expert though.
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>>58213853
Veiled sound

They were my first headphones so I was disappointed by how unnatural they sounded, but I got used to it after a while
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thanks to the two anons that recommended the micca origen+
i'm loving it so far
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>>58216927
No worries. It's a good little DAC/Amp combo.

How did you manage with driver issues, if any?
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>Budget
$100, flexible
>Location
US
>Source
PC, gaming handhelds
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
Comfortable
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
see >>58215240

Please respond.
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>>58216951
SHP9500
Or M40x + HM5 pads if you want closed
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>>58216945
i just had to change some bios stuff and it went fine
nothing wrong on win 10 except it added some text to my desktop, win 8.1 crashed like 100 times but now it's working fine, and i haven't used it on a linux machine yet, but i usually just use those for work anyways
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>>58216850
shure se215
>>58216892
soundmagic E10
>>58216951
HM5
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>>58216951
558/m40x
>see >>58215240
oh
just EQ down the 558's bass then, I think you just want negative bass
or maybe you want bright and think that has something to do with the bass, in which case get 7506/SHP9500

ignore >>58217034
then because HM5 is even bassier

>>58217034
>se215 for bassy
aren't they really neutral?
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>Budget
500 Euros and can go up to 600 if it's totally worth it

>Location
EU

>Source
PC with Essence STX

>Type of headphone
Over ear

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
VERY comfortable

>Sound signature
Not anemic but not absurd either, don't need niggerbass or a treble cannon


I'm eyeing Shure SRH1840 and maybe Beyerdynamic DT1990 PRO. My wife's son recommended some HiFiMAN stuff but I'm not fond of chink shit and they seem to be built like shit. The warranty/support are also very bad according to /hpg/.

Build quality and comfort are paramount. No Sennheiser, 600/650 are way too tight and uncomfortable on my head and have shit build quality.
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>>58217079
>se215
>neutral
Fuck no. They are bloated.
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>>58217134
Maybe look at audeze or fostex if you are looking at hifiman.
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Just ordered Fidelio x2's, only experience is with using M50x's and was wondering if when using my X2's with my phone and laptop a portable dac/amp such as the FiiO e18 would be worth picking up to improve the sound quality.
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>>58213418
>Budget
£140 or less
>Location
UK
>Source
Samsung Galaxy 7 Edge and Laptop
>Type of headphone
Closed
>Comfort
Very comfy
>Past headphones
Basic generic gaming headphones and Iphone earphones. I have barely any experience with decent headphones and shooting in the dark at the moment. The last ones I had I liked how they were over ear but they sound leaked out badly.

Ideally I want a pair of headphones for studying in the library with a decent level of noise cancelling. I've been looking at Sennheiser as heard they are a good brand but I'm basing this off what friends have told me and website reviews.
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>>58217199
X generally doesn't need an amp
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>>58217134
>My wife's son
noice
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>>58217217
You can't get any decent ANC headphones for that price other than second hand

unless you meant isolation
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>>58217260

Yeah I've slowly learned that fact but sadly I'm really restricted on budget. Isolation is probably what I would want with my limit
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Man, I cant decide whether I should get new IEMs or headphones.
Both of the ones I have are broken.

I think headphones sound better but I use IEMs more.

How are IEMs in the 300-500usd range?
Do they require anything like an amp?
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>>58217199
I ordered them 3 days ago along with hifime sabre 9018 dac, but I think hifimediy 9023 mini should be good choice as well.
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Any thoughts on THE Element from JDS labs? Same company that makes objective2/odac.
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>>58217391
OP

I've never heard about IEMs needing an amp but if you look around enough I'm sure you'll find some audiophiles say that powering it with an amp increases the quality tenfold or some stupid shit

also
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300-500 is quite the budget and you should be able to get good headphones & IEMs with that money
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>>58217439
>Same company that makes objective2/odac.
well they didn't make it as far as I know, they simply sell a preassembled one
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Westone yay or nay
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>>58214135
A Bluetooth headset will be a ton better than that thing you posted.
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>>58217217
HyperX Cloud maybe.
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>>58216835
Open headphones almost feel like listening to music from something that's not that close to your ears because you hear outside noise aswell. The difference is that you don't hear the room's response to the sound you're listening to. But yes, an open can design will sound more airy, but a good pair of open back headphones can still provide a powerful sound. My friend has DT 990 and I listened to some drum and bass tracks on it and it's definitely amazing how accurately every sound is represented there.
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What are some good headphones for someone with tinnitus? Maybe something laid back with low treble? Bellow 300€
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>>58217763
DT990
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>>58217779
That's the complete opposite of what i'm asking
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>>58217790
ATH-AD lineup.
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>>58217753
DT990 not the best for analytical purposes. HD600 was better in that regard.
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>>58217833
> hd600
> analytical

Never heard them but I thought they were supposed to be laid back. Never seen anyone calling them analytal, that usually goes for AKGs and other treble heavy headphones
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>>58216835
>more "airy" and "spacious" sound
Most of my "Frequency response and EQ for dummies" charts and tables tell you boost above 10-13 kHz for "air" and "brilliance".
Putting dips in the treble can make certain bits, vocals and instruments, seem distant.

>>58217650
Westone tends to go for stuff that is recessed from 1-8 kHz. Accessories are arguably not as nice as they used to be, I don't care for the earpiece redesign (somewhat of a loss in feeling solid) and the switch to MMCX connectors either.

>>58217852
AKG aren't treble heavy in general. They don't have much of a strong brand sound.
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>Budget
300€ hard limit

>Location
EU

>Source
Will probably buy either the e10k or something similar later

>Type of headphone
Overear

>Open or closed
Either

>Comfort level
Sound over comfort

>Sound signature
Slightly bassy and laid back but overall neutral without treble peaks

>Past headphones
Creative fatal1ty, DT990

These headphones sound very muddy and have little treble which makes them great to listen to literally anything regardless of production and still have zero ear fatigue. I want something similar but with actual treble for a change. I had the DT990 for a week but returned them because the treble felt like sharp knives.
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>>58217763
>good headphones for someone with tinnitus
>Maybe something laid back with low treble?
Tinnitus occurs at all audible frequencies. Assuming noise-induced damage, you would want to avoid exciting the damaged frequency range too much. Go easy on the listening level as well.
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>>58218523
>Assuming noise-induced damage,
I'm always listened on low volumes. The tinnitus appeared out of nowhere form one day to the other while I wasn't even at home for almost the entire day. One week later it became far worse and that's how it's been like for over a year. I have an e10k and I never go over the number 3 mark on low gain wearing a k712 which btw i'm going to return cuz I can't stand the treble no matter how much i try
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>>58218523
>you would want to avoid exciting the damaged frequency range
I don't think that's it. I've gone to an ENT and I have good hearing across the board.
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>>58218562
You probably should make use of EQ.
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>>58218597
And I have. Been using it like this which made me think about getting the HD650s instead.
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I got my Sony MDR-7506 today, it's incredibly good!
Thank you to the anon that recommended it to me
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>>58218629
That's the wrong way to go about it. K701 and derivative models have spiky treble, as do most headphones. Fix the peak(s).
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>>58218629
Pretty much what this guy said:
>>58218664

You might also want to read this: http://www.head-fi.org/a/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial
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>>58218680
How come people say the HD600s and derivatives sound veiled with rolled off treble if this is true?
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If I'm looking at a DAC/Amp combo to purely power headphones not looking for any fancy features or switches for multiple outs or transformers for speakers or anything what's best at 100USD or lower?
Eventually going to be used for AKG 712s or possibly BD880s, current headphones don't need anything special to drive them but looking forward to the future
Portability isn't a concern, gonna be sitting on a desk.
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Sony MDR-7506 at iMac.

AirPods anywhere else.
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>>58218680
>http://www.head-fi.org/a/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial
There are multiple problems with this tutorial. But the idea of using pink noise bursts and sine sweeps to gauge loudness peaks and dips is the right idea.

>>58218776
>rolled off treble
The HD600/650 aren't rolled off on the top end, just the low end. Headphones usually have something up top, unlike in-ears.
Headphones are subject to multiple interference modes, cancellation dips and peaks, in the treble region. This makes gauging their response above 10kHz exceedingly difficult.
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Please help, looking for a pair of headphones to attach a mod modmic and use for gaming/music

>less than $100
>USA
>computer only
>over ear/studio
>closed preferred
>comfortable, used for long periods of time
>nothing worth mentioning
>durability is major
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Just ordered picrelated. How fucked am I?
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>>58219076
poor/10
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>>58217833
We're talking two completely different price ranges here. The DT 990 are probably some of the most analytical you can get under $150.
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Just using for music and podcasts 99% of the time.

>Budget
Up to about $125 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
Laptop (mostly) and iPod Touch
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open preferred
>Comfort level
Pretty comfy (my ears stick out a decent bit, so that's a bitch)
>Sound signature
Neutral or warm preferred
>Past headphones
Always like $35 Sony/Panasonic ear buds from Walmart.

ATH-M40x's are on sale for $115 on Amazon right now, and I'm wondering if these may be a good choice. I've never really owned any "decent" headphones before.
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There is no speakers tread so I'll ask here.
Dali 505 + Nad 310 for $200. Is it good purchase?
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what the heck is the little cable clip thing that came with my x2's used for? and how do I take it off?
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>>58219506
To get cable excess in a bunch, you can just pull it off, it's removable.
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>>58218680
>>58218961
So let me get this straight: The only measurements that actually matter are the raw measurements?
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>>58219746
What ultimately matters is what you hear, raw measurements help you get a general idea.
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Where can I get free flac files? I have had my pair of HiFiMan HE-400is' for a while now but I've just been listening to low quality MP3s.
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>>58219774
>What ultimately matters is what you hear
Evidently, the issue is actually having the headphones to test. I want to read headphone charts and get an idea of what they sound like. The K712's raw measument show a smaller spike from 2KHz-5KHz but then have a stupid spike around 5KHz-7KHz which is most likely what's bothering me so much. In fact I think everything between 7 to 10KHz is too much as well.
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>>58219774
Do you by any chance know of any headphones with reasonably flat treble on raw measurments?
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AKG 612 Pro or Fidelio X2?
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>>58219862
You won't find anything of the sort before getting into the fucking expensive range. Check out Focal Utopia, Tyll praises them for having no peaks worth mentioning.
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>>58219825
>2k17
>flac
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I have an odd question.

I have headphones that still function properly, but the headband part of it is broken and no longer usable. I could try to wrap tape around it, but I feel it won't have as tight of a grip as it could that way.

The headphones connect to each other over a wire across the headband. Is there some custom replacement headband or something similar that I could use to make them wearable again? If I can wrap the connecting wire into another headband, I feel that I can fix the headphones tightly to it, but I need an idea or place to go first. I've been googling it, but a lot of the solutions I've found involve using some $1 hair band to use as the headband and that's not what I want.
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>>58219273
I have a pair of M40x, they're good. Really good clarity, I'm able to hear things I've never heard before in certain music. The bass is lower than what I'm used to, but I think that's just because most cheap consumer headphones tend to overemphasize the fuck out of the bass.
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>>58219746
>The only measurements that actually matter are the raw measurements?
No. This is one of those many problems with that tutorial, and why we should just stop referring to it. The one on the wiki is better as it is.

>>58219862
>Do you by any chance know of any headphones with reasonably flat treble on raw measurments?
This could be a really long explanation, but you don't want to do that. I should have written up something on this before somewhere.
As quick as I can think of right now - it would basically be the same as tearing out your ears and excavating your canal to the eardrum. Flat on the "raw" has the headphone cancels out the effect of amplification that your ears have on sound.
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>Budget

$100 but I can shill a bit more
>Location

Burgerland

>Source

aux?

>Type of headphone

not important, don't really care

>Open or closed

see above


>Comfort level

Very

>Sound signature

warm, a bit bass heavy but not overwhelming

>Past headphones

shitty apple earbuds


>other

recommendations for a good microphone? Under $30 for mic or a headphone that comes with the mic
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>>58220252
Thanks. I'm really interested in them; I've looked up a bunch of different reviews from different sources, and I've seen a lot of people talk about them having issues with the plastic around the cups not holding up so well which really worries me. I have no idea how hard these people have been on them though. In my case I'd just be using them at home (or the rare time in the car).
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Thinking of getting Focal Sphear, they seem to be pretty good for the price. Any anon tried them out?
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>>58220498
I've heard the same thing, but I'm pretty sure every pair comes with a one year warranty, so if you're worried about it breaking you'll at least get a year of use out of it without having to shell out for a replacement.
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Are modded HD558's better than the Logitech G35?
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Got ATH M40xs after asking if the M50Xs were good and people said the m40s were more neutral.

Really good headphones, and comfy for the moment so i don't think I need pass yet. Thanks for the suggest guys.
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>>58220009
Suggest another format then, I'm an audio noob.
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>>58220614
mp3 320
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>>58220555
>Logitech G35
>7.1 Surround Sound Gaming Headset
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>>58220632
I considered that, but I honestly hear an audible difference between the two and it is irritating me.
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>>58220696
No you don't.
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>>58220696
>but I honestly hear an audible difference between the two

No you don't unless it's not true 320kbps.

You might hear a a very tiny difference between 320kbs and a bit-perfect rip (wav) if you have very analytical headphones with very low distortion and a good source.
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>>58220728
>>58220737
That isn't necessarily true.
>if you have very analytical headphones with very low distortion and a good source.
This definitely isn't true. Psychoacoustic coding artifacts don't reveal themselves as such.

>>58220696
There is no singular "320 kbps" mp3, there are all sorts of variations in coding and quantization that can occur between different encoders compatible with mp3.
Go ask /ptg/ or something for music.

>>58220501
>seem to be pretty good for the price
You have to set criteria that a headphone should fulfill to evaluate it. I suppose the build is fine for 80 dollars, but it's not that rugged. No detachable cable and all.

The Sphear is kinda like the Fiio EX1, with more bass. Less heavily ventilated, and has a remote.
They have the smiley-EQ going on for them, lots of upper bass. It's not very special as far as signature is concerned.
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>>58220992
>not very special
An amendment.
It has more upper midrange than the typical IEM in that the upper midrange is not recessed.
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HD558 is 89.99 at bestbuy.

Should I pull the trigger?
>>
I got these Bose QC15s, and they're pretty damn good. Serious question though, how many headphones require AAA batteries in order to work? This is the one thing that turns me off of them, it seems so goddamned weird.
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>>58221272
They're trash, get SPH9500 instead and save money.
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>>58221294
You can mod the 558's to sound like the 598.
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>>58221283
Can't think of any that aren't ANC.
Some ANC sets are rechargeable, some require disposables. Bose finally put in rechargeable batteries on the QC35.

>>58221272
Seems around the average price, maybe a bit below. As long it's what you want.
>558 mod
Not as much difference as you might like.
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>Budget
$200
>Location
USA
>Source
Computer, I dont have an amp
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
Warm
>Past headphones
shitty gaming headset
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>>58221611
X2
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What's the difference between the Beyer Custom One Pros, and the Custom One Studio?
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>hd6xx buyers regret after 30 seconds.
>fell for the seinnheise meme again

disgusting sibilant, sharp highs. no bace. lolsoundstage. sounds like a paper cone or what sennheiser shills call "sennheiser veil". this is compared with fidelio x2 btw.

god forbid I almost got shilled into buying a hd800 or audezhit a few months ago. I'm done with this snake oil hobby.
>>
Are DT770s worth being 2x the price of ATH-m40x???
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>>58217391
Personally prefer IEM's - more versatile. Amp'ing only helps if the original source is poor - my laptop sounds crap with IEM or headphone so I run it though a dac/amp = step change in performance.

If you mostly listen outdoors/commuting = Get IEM
If you mostly listen indoors = Get Headphone

My IEM (JH Angie custom from Mojo or Cowon Plenue) sounds as good as any headphone I've tried - inc. high end Stax/Hifiman/Sennheiser/Mr Speakers. And is more versatile.
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Fidelio x2s vs k712s for an everyday can? Living in europe so hifiman aren't in the equation
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which one should I get from these?
https://www.amazon.ca/Sony-MDRXB950BT-Over-Ear-Wireless-Headphones/dp/B00MCHE38O/ref=pd_sbs_267_27?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SXW6YZPKHM7MPCRZE921
https://www.amazon.ca/Sennheiser-HD-280-PRO-Headphone/dp/B00IT0IHOY/ref=pd_sbs_267_21?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SXW6YZPKHM7MPCRZE921
https://www.amazon.ca/Sony-MDR7506-Professional-Diaphragm-Headphone/dp/B000AJIF4E/ref=pd_sbs_267_12?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SXW6YZPKHM7MPCRZE921
https://www.amazon.ca/Audio-Technica-ATH-M40x-Professional-Headphones/dp/B00HVLUR54/ref=pd_sbs_267_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SXW6YZPKHM7MPCRZE921
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Just pulled the trigger on the 170$ Fidelio X2. How did I do?
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>>58222674
where?
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>>58221611
SPH 9500. Comfier than the X2, 95% as good, 1/4 of the price.
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>>58222696
It was used on ebay. I snagged the last one
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>>58213650

I finally let my autism consume me.
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>>58213418
I'm looking for some advice:
>Budget
around 100 euros
>Location
eu
>Source
macbook pro
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
needs to be high, willing to drop sound quality for comfort.
>Sound signature
/
>Past headphones
/

some more info:
currently i'm using a hd600 at work, but this is not optimal as it leaks quite a bit, and I would like some more noise cancellation.
Also, since i'm bringing it to work every day I would prefer if it was portable.
I have had a marshall major in the past but I couldn't wear this for more than 1 hour, after that my ears would be killing me(too much clamp), hence the high comfort level.

thanks in advance.
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>>58221611
SHP9500 but throw in an Monoprice DAC amp since they're on sale right now, so you're going to need a 1/4 adapter and another 3.5mm cable, youll still be under 200 with all of that too
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>>58223365
do you like the sound profile of the 600?
if not, what do you wish was stronger
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>>58223419
I do like it a lot.
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>>58213418
Nigga where do I get those plugs?
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>>58223370
Why would you need the Monoprice DAC amp unless you're getting electrical noise from your computer? Seems a waste.
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>>58223437
m40x with replacement pads will probably suit you then
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did I do right /g/?
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>>58223567
that padlock looks like shit bro, get some better locks
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>>58223530
Thank you, any recommendation on pads?
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>>58223640
You are right, I don't even remember the pin
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>>58217442
IEMs do need an amp, but they need discreet amplification. That only applies when using an external DAC

They really don't need a separate external amp if you're just using on-board audio and such, unless it has a high output impedance, since most IEMs are quite sensitive.
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>>58223659
hm5
auray sheepskin / zmf lambskin if you're a baller

also what the fuck happened to (You)s
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>>58223678
hm5s it will be then, the leather ones are a bit too expensive for my taste, maybe next christmas.
>>
>>58217763
HD 558 could work. Other than that an EQ should do a hell of a lot more for you than a new headphone.

Maybe HD 600's?
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>Budget
$60- $90
>Location
United States
>Type of Headphones
IEM's
>Comfort Level
Decent
>Sound Signature
Not sure. I listen to a lot of EDM with bass
>Past Headphones
NarMoo S1 High-Fidelity Noise Isolation Headphones
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>>58219076
Honestly porta pros would have been better, but for over ears they're 'okay'. You NEEEEED new pads though. 5 Dollar ebay ones, or the sock trick works well. Various mentions of it. Look for Superlux 668b mods as well since theyre nearly the same cup design.
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>budget
$100-150
>location
USA
>source
PC, Sony AV receiver (STR-DH550), MP3 players
>Type
Full, over-ear
>Open/Closed
No preference (open if you press me)
>Comfort
7/10-10/10. Will be used for long sessions.
>Signature
Bassy: I want to hear the bass but not have it be blown out
>Past cans
Sennheiser HD-202, Sony MDR-XB950BT; I like the comfort of both (Sony's are a bit more comfy). What prompted me to request advice is the inadequate bass of my (admittedly cheap) pairs of headphones. The Sony cans have slightly better bass than the Sennys (which have almost none) but I want better bass if possible at my price range.

Thanks in advance.
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>>58221272
If you want a fairly warm, open headphone, sure.
SHP9500's are better if you want a colder and slightly brighter in the highs sound.
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>>58213418
I loved my IE80's, but they got stolen on a trip to the USA.
I want some new in ears. I had my eye on sure IEM models, but there must be more options out there. My budget is about €500.
I'll be using it to play music and audiobooks from my phone and Desktop. I use objective ODAC combo for that.

I'd love it if they could be molded to my ears, but this isn't a must.
I saw some customisation options on a chineese website once. Don't remember what it was called, but they made skinns for shure IEM's
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>>58222471
Yes and no. M40x are fairly neutral, DT 770's are the exact opposite.

DT 770's are much more comparable to M50x, and for $30 more than M50x, you're getting a hell of a lot more than $30 dollars worth.

For 770's versus M40x, it's really whatever you want sound signature wise. M40x stock pads suck so you have to factor that in anyway [same with m50x, but w/e]

770's have far better build and comfort even with new pads on M40x, if thats a factor for you.

>>58222623
M40x for neutral ish
7506 for revealing neutral [potentially sibilant highs]

Both have pretty shitty stock pads, but the 7506 are a bit comfier.
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>>58223567
They look retarded as fuck but apparently people like them. How is the comfort on them?
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>>58223713
have a look at the different versions of hm5 btw
they're all good, so you need to pick based on what you prefer
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>>58222623
xb950bt is for niggers
m40x is neutral
7506 is bright
280 is dumpster
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>>58223810
DT 770's. [80 ohm unless you have a dedicated amp] Bass is very clean for the amount of it. The sub-bass is excellent, so they have great kick without being too muddy.

Comfort will be a hell of a lot nicer than both your cans.

Im surprised you find the XB950's bass light. They're actually have a fairly reasonable low end.
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>>58223810
just attach subwoofers to your head
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>>58223967
attatch them to your dick
fuck the bass
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>>58223960
Oh those look good. Thanks a lot anon.

>>58223967
I should
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Stupid question passing by: what does the amount of ohm mean or do for sound?

More is draws more power, needing an amplifier? If so what should I look for when playing from a desktop soundcard? 32, 80 or 250 ohm m, I'm looking at the dt770.
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>>58223905
They are probably the most painful headphones I've ever tried but the sound is great for the price
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>>58216721
Amazon.de or .com
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>>58224079
the 770 m is a different headphone, if that 250 ohm "m" thing wasn't just a typo

80 is the best, since it has an improvement in quality over 32, but it's still low enough to be able to be used on the go with phones and such

>>58216721
you must not have looked very far
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Has anyone tried both the k7xx and Fidelio X2?

I mainly listen to rock and a bit of hip-hop, and just for general use on my PC. Have the MDR V6, love them, but looking for something a bit different. The V6 is a bit on the bright side and isn't all that "engaging" for music.
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>>58224170
v6 is bright
7xx is bright with a slight bass boost
x2 is bassy

7xx needs an amp
x2 doesn't
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which pads for the m40x are good and how do they affect the sound? I don't want anything that's gonna tank the bass.
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>>58224219
MSR7 pads are your best option. HM5 pleathers /slightly/ reduce low end, as they move the headphone further away.

MSR7 pads are expensive, but theyre essentially just M40x pads, but actually comfortable.
I still prefer HM5's, but I also dont really care about the loss of low end that much.
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>>58224167
The m was a typo. Cool I'll pick up the 80 then since I might use it on the go as well.
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>>58224195

I have an e10k, is that enough? Leaning towards the K7XX as it's lighter and I usually wear headphones for long periods of time. I'm entirely used to the brightness on the V6's from wearing them for years, they're not nearly as ear piercing as the M50x were when I had those. It's just the lack of bass that makes it rather boring, plus I'd like an open headphone.
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Are there any good earphone/earpods wireless/wired for <$20 with very/good cables and inside wiring?

The ones I've gotten in the past have shit wiring, as overtime, when they're bent, it seems to fuck up the connections.
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Guys is there an infographic / recommendation for mics?

My only request is it should have a mute button, but otherwise it just needs to work for skype / talking.

Thanks.
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>>58224375
$10 Zalman Clip
It's a clip-on mike.

$30 V-Moda Boom Pro (I went with this)
It's a replacement cable with a mike and controls. Needs a 3.5mm detachable cable or an adapter

$60 ModMic
It's a stick-on microphone with controls.
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>>58224412
Hmm... Zalman looked good but doesn't have a mute button.

Boom Pro won't be compatible with my Sennheiser, 2.5mm

60$ is stretching it
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>>58224439
Solder in your own mute button.

You can also get 3.5 to 2.5 adapters too
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>>58224439
I don't remember the name but there's a 2.5mm Boom Pro style mike out there. No idea if it's good, just that it's available.
>>
>>58224507
w-w-what
why would you even want to compare them
they dont sound alike at all
>>
>>58224375
If you can manage without the mute button, /csg/ is constantly raving about the bm800, seems to be really fucking good.
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>>58213418
Had my 600's for around half a year now and They're still the best I've ever heard and the main reason why I almost never come here or look at headphone stuff in general. I can't see myself buying any other full sized headphones again. Anyone else know this feel?
>>
>>58224557
Yep, they're comfy
>>
>>58224550
Well, unless there's a way to reliably mute / unmute globally via hotkey, a physical mute button would be preferable. My last mic, which broke, had a nice big red indicator when muted.

It was a Lifechat mic paired with a Senn 598.

Typical scenario is I'm on skype / teamspeak for hours at a time and would rather mute when necessary, there's no need for random background noise for the participants. And privacy, of course.
>>
How does the ATH-M40X perform in gaems and animus?
>>
>>58224606
myea I get that, it's kind of the same for me, I use a samson meteor which lights either blue or red when muted. Not really sure on the price atm, but they are allright.
>>
>>58224683
>they are
it is, mea culpa
>>
Hey /g/. I want something specific for music

>Budget
80-100 euros
>Location
Greece (feelsbadman)
>Type of headphone
Closed
>Comfort level
comfy
>Sound signature
dk, but I am into post-rock and desert metal songs
>>
>>58224557
You use any amp/dac for them?
>>
I'm seeing the Philips X2 mentioned a lot, they seem to be well recommended. Are they really that good or is it just a meme? Philips don't really strike me as a renowned audio equipment manufacturer.
>>
>>58225331
They're good, but only if you want an open V shape.

I'd rather take 990's and EQ out the highs though, as they have better sub-bass, and are built better.
>>
>>58225331
Good build quality, feels and looks luxurious
Kinda comfy
Good sound I think? My ears are crap, I can't really tell ok from good.
>>
>>58224310
yeah that's plenty
m50x is very light on treble though

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK7XX.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SonyMDRV6.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHM50x.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/PhilipsFidelioX2.pdf
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>>58225331
>judging based on brands rather than on products
>>
>>58225345
Would you recommend the Philips over the 990 if you will also be using them for gaming? I've read that the Philips work well as a gaming headset due to the wide soundstage and the detachable cable allows you to use a Boompro mic. As far as I can see the 990s have a non-detachable cable.
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>>58225398
>m50x is very light on treble though
they're sibilant as all fuck
even the guy youre replying too thinks theyre brighter than V6's

dunno what ty'lls measurements have been smoking

>>58225432
Yeah, I guess it could be a better option. DT 990's have a fairly decent soundstage though. X2's are better, but neither are really close sounding. And correct, the 990's don't have a removable cable. So if you do want a boompro you won't be able use it with 990's.

Though, for the price you can get 990's and a modmic for less. Two cables, but once the cable clips are used its not really an issue.

Either one is a good choice.
>>
>>58225445
Thanks dude, I'll have to have a good think over both options before I pull the trigger but it looks like I should be happy with either.
>>
>Budget
80-100 euros
>Location
Greece (feelsbadman)
>Type of headphone
Closed
>Comfort level
comfy
>Sound signature
dk, but I am into post-rock and desert metal songs
>>
>>58225565
is it the same shit like albaniananon where importing is a huge pain in the ass?

have a look at m40x & if you're interested get hm5 pads to replace the pads on it
>>
>>58224127
>>58216721

I meant I couldn't find it anywhere for a decent price.
Amazon de has it for 130 eur + 20 eur shipping which puts it well above my price range.
Amazon com has it for 78 usd but customs are fucked and sometimes stuff gets stuck at the border for a month so I'd like to order something that ships from whitin the EU.
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>>58225331
DON'T FALL FOR THE MEME /s
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>>58225669
yeah, it really is a pain in the ass
and for some months banks didn't let us export money.
>>
>>58225675
check .it, .fr, .co.uk, thomann.de etc.
>>
Ive been an avid porta pro user for years but even with the lifetime warranty mailing them back in multiple times a year is a pain.

Any comparable recs for a commuter/travel pair?

I have a pair of MDR-V6s and ATHM50s for home/office use
>>
>>58225329
I use mine with an e10k, I used to own an odac combo but it literally sounded exactly the same as the e10k and It needed it's own power source rather than usb so I sold it.
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>>58225331
They're pretty good but sound muddy compared to hd600's and all the open akg's. Great build quality though.
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>>58216079
>going to reddit
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/hpg/ hold me, I think I am gonna trow my money on it. It's whole 530$, but it's portable and includes a power block that takes amp from 660 to 1000mw into 32ohm. Literally a portable notebook set up, wish it was 450$ instead. Anyone had iBasso products before?
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>>58225980
It won't sound any different. Go ahead and buy a couple of premium cables while you're at it
>>
I got Creative Aurvana Live! headphones off of Amazon for $40, did I make a good choice?
>>
>>58226123
>rebranded Denon AH-D1001
>build quality on the poor side

You could do worse.
>>
>Budget
€250

>Location
Europ

>Source
E17

>Type of headphone
Over ear

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
S+

>Sound signature
As much bass as I have or more, a little darkness

>Past headphones
598, mdr ma 900, sold 598 because of clamping
>>
>>58226123
Yes. They're a very good closed headphone. I don't fnd them particularly comfortable, but i have huge fuckin ears. You might not mind them.
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>>58226368
You should really just listen and compare. Audio is so subjective that we really can't give you a definitive answer.

I personally preffer DT 990's, but both are good.

The 990's are built like tanks, and will last forever. 990's have very easily replaceable parts. Beyer stocks fuckin everything on their site going back decades, which is another plus for longevity.

Imo 990's have better sub-bass. I also feel that in terms of raw sound quality, they sound outright better.

They'll improve more than X2's will with an amp, which may also change your decision. I'd buy the amp first and see how you then like the changes to both it may make, and then make a decision.

But that's just me. Other people will probably give you other opinions too.
>>
what are the best headphones i can buy which do not require some sort of dac/amp? budget 1k
>>
>>58227218
Why do you not want a DAC/Amp?
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>>58227227
because they all seem to be out of stock. i was gonna buy hd650s to replace my dt770, which i've had for like a decade, but i couldn't find any of the recommended dacs anywhere.
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>>58227247
Buy online
>>
hd 559 or ath-m50x
these are my only options so dont suggest others just choose between the 2
i mostly game, watch movies/anime and listen to music(nothing special just mainstream some rock and some anime stuff)
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>>58227247
How do you feel about your 770s??
Have the cable and pads lasted through the years?
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Anyone have Shure se535 limited red? They fixed the dark sound?
>>
Is there a T50rp mod to increase bass and sub-bass response?
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>>58227443
It has a 330 Ohm acoustic damper. I have SE535 with the damper changed and then removed entirely. The sound signature change is very small with the 330 Ohm damper. It's slightly less dark. Without the damper the sound is more even but there's a slight peak in the upper mids now which is audible but not fatiguing.
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>>58227429
559's.
M50x are uncomfortable and lack soundstage, which isn't very good for gaming.
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>>58227504

Ive had the 425 for many years, I like it for podcasts since its neutral. Is the 535 limited ed also pure bliss for music?

Thanks for the info
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>>58213650
ay
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>>58227465
Yes. There are T50RP mods for literally everything. Go look at that insanely large thread on head-fi
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>>58227589
Up to you, neither one is particularly neutral. SE425 is closer to neutral than SE535. I don't use mine much as I like Etymotics more. I don't like the dark sound and I do prefer neutral over everything else regardless of what is being played back.
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>>58227711
I found a deal with the T50rp Mkiii, a Fiio A1 amp, and a case for $160.
Is it worth having the T50s stock for a few months?
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>>58227738

Which etymotic? Ive been a shure slave for long, they have perfect comfort and I wear them at work for long hours.
>>
Best portable amp sub-$150 to pair with my HE400i. The cheaper the better and the shipping for cmoy is the same as the amp itself so no cmoys allowed. Currently looking at the Fiio A5 or the cayin c5.
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>>58227794
That's acually a really good deal.

Why do you have to wait a few months before modding it though?
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>>58227804
build your own cmoy
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>>58227661
what do you think is the best sound signature for weebshit, famalam?
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>>58227811
Just because dropping $160 is a bit of a hit right now, so I'll get a new cable/new pads/get clay and felt in later months.
I just don't want to miss out on a good deal because I decided to save $20 by getting DT770s
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I sure love my Beats by Dr. Dre, what a great pair of headphones, almost perfect. What do you think of your beats fellow anons haha lol
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>>58227863
Probably the 600's, however I use the LCD's as my daily's with a slight treble boost.
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Which in ears to get for daily use, great sound, replacable parts. Under 1000€
>>
Any reccomendations for earbuds with an inline android control box thing? I need one for work. Budget around £30

I already had some SoundMagic E10C's and they broke on me.
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>>58227926
Fair enough. 770's are great, but T50RP's can outshine them once modified. They're a phenomenal driver, but so poorly utilized.

HM5 pads are only ~$22-$30, depending on what type, and a new cable costs virtually nothing if you make your own. It's fairly common to relocate the cable hole to the bottom of the cup too, which means you can just use cheap chinese cables.

Materials are all fairly cheap too.

It'd be a worthwhile investment.
>>
>Budget
$20-50
>Location
US
>Type of headphone
earbuds
>Comfort level
comfy
>Sound signature
dont know what this means
>Past headphones
soundmagic e10s, shitty $10 earbuds, would like something that fits like an apple earbud but has better sound clarity, I dont like iems
>>
>>58227802
ER-4PT with PT to S adapter. So basically it's ER-4S which is identical sound wise to the new ER-4SR.
>>
Do producers and whatever professionals EQ their headphones too? I don't understand how anyone can handle the treble fury of headphones like K702s, DT880s or HD800s but maybe i'm looking at this in the wrong way
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>>58228160

Thanks. I prefer personal experience to reviews, especially in the pro and semipro market where everything is good.
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>>58228269

You are confusing treble with gear that can actually produce clear sound.
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>>58228133
You think you can make T50s have the nice subbass that the 770s have?

But yeah, now I'm heavily considering putting the extra $20/30 in to go from DT770s to T50rps.
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>>58228297
That looks like a lot of fucking treble. You can reduce the loudness and still get a very clear sound

quantity != quality
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to whatever anon helped me out on last thread, thanks a lot. my status sm-cb1 arrived today, and they sound/feel great. i got way higher qualitty than i expected. it just might take me some time to get used to the sound signature, but its all roses so far.
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>>58228330

I have a fear that even basic hearing is genetic. I did military service, and everyone there goes through the same basic tests. Some people just have shit for ears, cant trust them
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>>58228312
Potentially, yes. It'd be hard but its doable theoretically. It'd be a lot easier to do with a measurement rig, but they cost a fair bit for even 'decent' microhpones. By ear isnt /too/ hard.

Hardest part about sub-bass is getting the baffles right and bass porting. Dampening materials dont have much of an affect as higher frequencies.
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>Budget
150 euros, can go up to 200.
>Location
France
>Source
Phone, Desktop, laptop, 3DS.
>Type of headphone
"Over ear" I think.
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter.
>Comfort level
Pretty important.
>Sound signature
Doesn't really matter, I'm just gonna watch chinese cartoons, porn, and some games with it.
>Past headphones
I had an AKG Q701.
Absolutely loved it, especially the fluffy pads, and despite looking big it felt lightweight on my head, except that it broke constantly after a few months of usage, because it was badly soldered, and it took one month once to send it and get it ""fixed"", so I started doing the soldering myself but eventually fucked up a driver.
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>>58228269
Most of those aren't even that insanely bright. It's just preference.

Proper producers use studio monitors. Headphones can never compete in terms of price to performance at that level.
>>
can anyone recommend a player besides memebar2000?

i like it's features and plugins etc but it's config files corrupt easily and i'm tired of losing my playlists. the ui is outdated as well
>>
>>58228632
Forgot to add that I also liked the fact that you could unplug the cable, so that I won't have to trash the whole thing when it eventually breaks.

I'm currently looking at a K702, which looks like my Q701 with another name, but I'm hesitating because it may break like the other one. And I noticed that it doesn't have the tiny pads on the headband unlike the Q/K701, but the K701 doesn't have a detachable cord. The Q701 had both of these features.
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>>58228826
The K712 is around 215€ on amazon and 220€ on thomann. I have these and the added bass and memory foam pads are to die for IMO
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>>58228626
Bass porting? That would only make it lose pressure and roll off the lowest octaves, kind of what happens with the headphones without any modifications. Getting the baffle to seal and the pads to not leak would assure flat bass response.
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>>58228865
Are they fatiguing? I'm debating these or fidelio x2s (x2s are €40 more atm) for a pair of every day cans with 5-15 hours of use daily
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>>58229344
I don't know about the X2s but the 712s are very fatiguing, at least for me, after the 7KHz mark. They also have a weird peak around 14KHz for some reason which is why I'm using an EQ like this. Either that or I just like rolled off treble after 7KHz. By the way, those 2khz and 4khz adjustments are just personal preferece to make them slighly more neutral, nothing wrong with them. Everything bellow 7KHz is smooth as butter.

From looking at X2s charts they seem to have a peak around 10KHz mark
>>
>Budget: ~100, but flexible if there's something great
>Location: USA
>Source: 3.5mm or Bluetooth
>Type: In-ear
I'm looking for in ear headphones that reduce outside noise.
They can be noise isolating or cancelling but I want something that will allow me to have quiet.
Would Shurefire EP10s be good?
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>>58213418
Still the only headphones I need -

but I also have ATH-M50X's for my desktop/record player
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>>58229404
>712s are very fatiguing, at least for me, after the 7KHz mark
Monsieur tinnitus? Did you try a cut a 6-7kHz using the peaking filter

>>58228269
From my own anecdotal experience, more do than don't.
>can handle the treble fury of headphones
They're not that bright overall. Very few headphones are.
Make a single cut in the treble to kill the peak and the lacking upper frequencies the peak masks become obvious.

>>58228020
Not enough information. Try to fill the template in the OP.
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>>58228763
musicbee is an option, but sucks massive shit compared to foobar imo
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>>58229532
>record player
why
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>>58229586
its fun to listen to records with headphones - but I prefer my speakers
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>>58229547
>Did you try a cut a 6-7kHz using the peaking filter
I do have tinnitus but i've been sensitive to those frequencies all my life. Hell, I have the K712 paired with an E10K and I never go over the 3 mark on low gain. I did cut that with a peaking filter but cymbals can go all the way to 10, 12 even 14KHz and those frequencies still needed to be recessed a bit through EQ, hence the high pass.

Look at the raw measurements here. There's a peak around 7KHz and another around 9KHz
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>>58229618
what is fun about listening to worse audio
>>
>>58229652
it just sounds nostalgic, idk.

can't you just let people enjoy things?
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>>58229695
how does inferior sound, sound nostalgic?

i'm not stopping you from enjoying anything
i'm just asking for your thought process
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>>58229712
>i'm just asking for your thought process
That's the thought process of thousands or even millions.You just don't understand humans
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>>58229712
you don't remember hearing barely audible songs on the radio? that skip-tape sound from cassettes? I grew up listening to records with my dad and part of my memory was not always having the best quality sound, only because it was a well loved, worn record.
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>>58229728
i've never heard anyone in my life say records sound nostalgic

so i can't say i believe you
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>>58216169
Same!

PS4 + Mixamp Pro + V-Moda Boompro + Fidelio X2

Probably the best combination for console gaming.
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>>58229500
reformatted:
>Budget
~100
>Location
USA
>Source
3.5mm or BT from S3
>Type
In-ear
I'm looking for in ear headphones that reduce outside noise.
They can be noise isolating or cancelling but I want something that will allow me to have quiet.
Would Shurefire EP10s be good?
>>
>>58229781
>console gaming
>gaming
fuck off back to /v/

>>>/v/
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>>58229532
see
>>58229799
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>>58229745
>you don't remember hearing barely audible songs on the radio?
what does that have to do with records

>that skip-tape sound from cassettes?
records dont have a skip take sound

>I grew up listening to records with my dad and part of my memory was not always having the best quality sound, only because it was a well loved, worn record.
i had a walkman and several record tables growing up, but i'd never listen to records or tapes again

its like going back to a shitty old nokia from a modern flagship
just a straight up pain in the ass
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>>58229619
The high shelf filter might be a more sensible way to EQ above 10kHz, but there's just something that bugs me about your line of thinking.
Specifically this part:
>I never go over the 3 mark on low gain
doesn't tie too much into the shape of the transfer function curve.


>Look at the raw measurements
I'm quite familiar. The issue I am thinking is that you aren't.
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>>58229904
okay man.

you know, its not really a contest - you asked for my reasoning and you respond by telling me how dumb it is when its not even your life. If you're like this with everyone, than you must be a really unpleasant and unhappy person.

I hope you have a good day.
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>>58229910
I appreciate you trying to help me but I didn't understand a single thing that you said.

> I am thinking is that you aren't.
The sibilance/strength of the frequencies after 7KHz are too much for me. I took a look at the raw measurements AFTER eqing and it makes sense. I eqed the headphone to my liking - I don't want cymbals splashing my ears like a sharp knife
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>>58229939
>you know, its not really a contest
i didnt say or think it was

>and you respond by telling me how dumb it is when its not even your life
when did i say it was dumb

>If you're like this with everyone, than you must be a really unpleasant and unhappy person.
i'm only like this with people with illogical reasoning
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>>58229619
can you explain these graphs to someone who doesnt know shit about audiophile stuff?


why are the five positions all starting at -40?

what the do bumps indicate?

do you want it to be as flat as possible or what indicates a good headphone?
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>>58230043
>can you explain these graphs to someone who doesnt know shit about audiophile stuff?
I can't cuz I don't understand them either. I just search for treble peaks because that's usually what matters to me and everytime I've tried a set of headphones (DT990, 702) i'm always right
>>
Looking for a replacement cable for my SE215, which one do you guys recommend?
>>
>>58230102
Anything cheap https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-se215-cable.html?initiative_id=SB_20161229122123&site=glo&groupsort=1&SortType=total_tranpro_desc&g=y&SearchText=se215+cable

Or get another genuine one https://www.amazon.com/Shure-EAC64BK-Detachable-Earphone-Earphones/dp/B0046HADYQ/
>>
>>58230064
I have to increase the highs (4k, 8k and 16k) by 1-3 dbs on most headphones because the sound is just very mudded without that, veiled or whatever the fuck people call it and that small change liberates it. Everyone's got different ears.
>>
>>58230219
I get what you mean and you might love the K712 for that
>>
>>58230163
thanks anon, I think I might try one of these cheap options, are they ok or do they suck in comparison to the genuine ones?
>>
>>58230303
No idea. Get whatever is cheapest. No difference in sound quality but you can win $1 million if you do https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Audiophile#Controversies
>>
what is the opinion on the o2/odac here? is it worth getting?
>>
>>58230380
fiio e10k sounds the same meme
>>
>>58229804
>being this butt flustered

I was talking about headphones my man
>>
>>58230380
>is it worth getting?
nobody knows if anything is worth it in your eyes
you have to decide that yourself
>>
What are the headphones that people say the HyperX Cloud are based on?
>>
>>58228626
Hmm these would be a pretty big deal to get working properly.
Is planar really that noticeable of a difference?
>>
V6 on sale for $65 on Newegg, is that a good deal?
>>
>>58230532
pro 80
>>
>>58230622
yes
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>Budget
$250
>Location
Australia
>Source
FiiO E10K Olympus 2/smartphone
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
Open?
>Comfort level
Comfy pls
>Sound signature
neutral.
>Past headphones
Pic related

Most expensive IEM was a $150 a-Jays Five.

>>58213650
Here's my babbies' starter kit.
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>>58213808
Well that didn't last long. Updated once again

Seriously though i am almost set on selling the IE80 and the DT880 600ohm, i got way too many headphones at the moment
>>
>>58230043
>why are the five positions all starting at -40?
Offset for clarity. But not really, as there are 10 curves down there.
Raw coupler measurements of the two channels measured over 5 positions.

>what the do bumps indicate?
Amplitude to frequency. If you prefer, the loudness associated with a certain frequency.

>do you want it to be as flat as possible or what indicates a good headphone?
For raw measurements, a wide boost (amplitude around 12-15 dB) around 3 kHz, slowly leveling off into high frequencies. Tyll's head is a little off spec, so the target peak is shifted higher up.

The colored red/blue curves are meant to be used to simplify this, but the correction around 1kHz is noticeably off. Reduce that part of the chart by several dB and you would be a bit more on target.

>>58229977
I didn't say how you equalized was wrong, but how you're thinking about it is problematic.
What you're supposed to do with the raw charts is apply a correction curve to remove the effects of the ear, like the one the brain applies to the sound that comes from the ears.
>>
How would you rate the Fidelio X2 against the Beyerdynamic DT 990?
>>
>>58231109
Better.
>>
>>58231103
>a wide boost (amplitude around 12-15 dB) around 3 kHz
So that equals to a flat measurement when applied on human ears?
>>
>>58231103
>I didn't say how you equalized was wrong, but how you're thinking about it is problematic.
>What you're supposed to do with the raw charts is apply a correction curve to remove the effects of the ear, like the one the brain applies to the sound that comes from the ears.
I think i'm getting at what you're saying. Do you by any chance think it's a good idea to return my 712s and get the HD650 instead? It doesn't seem to have any peaks around the treble, it just goes downhill from 3khz to 6khz and then seems to keep pretty flat up to 10Khz - if I'm reading it correctly.
>>
>>58231103
>ts, a wide boost (amplitude around 12-15 dB) a
to my eyes when i see that graph the first bumb is at 3khz but the bump looks like its about 2dB?
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>>58231109
Better in pretty much every way unless you're 80 years old and need the extra treble.
>>
>>58231021
How did you like the T50rps??
>>
>>58231270
They are good, mostly bought them for the intent of modding them though
>>
>>58231133
>>58231252
I actually have both at the moment and I have to say, they don't sound too different to me.. I have the 990 Edition 250 ohm and the only thing it lacks is the soundstage, which is a bit better on the X2. Other than that I think the 990 is more analytical. The bass is as good as the X2s and the treble is pretty much the same.. Maybe I got a faulty X2?
>>
>>58230043
>can you explain these graphs to someone who doesnt know shit about audiophile stuff?
It's a frequency response plot. It shows the relative loudness of the frequencies at the same input voltage. It's amplitude as a function of frequency. It's basically how the headphone sounds like. The upper plots are an average of the bottom five positions with ID correction. This is a correction to simulate how we perceive the sound of the headphones. The correction used on Innerfidelity is not a standard and can be a little confusing when comparing measurements across different sites with different compensation and couplers used.

>why are the five positions all starting at -40?
Don't pay attention to the absolute number, just the separation of each row which is 5 dB in magnitude. They are offset so it's easier to read both raw and compensated measurements.

>what the do bumps indicate?
Louder parts, peaks in amplitude across that frequency range.

>>58231144
More or less. Ear response is a little more complex than just a single wide boost but all targets(Diffuse field, free field, Harman target, Independent of direction) have this boost in common.

>>58231212
Are you looking at the raw measurements? Are you sure you can read the scale?
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>>58230603
In the low end, yes. A good planar has amazing low end extension and clarity when done right.

>>58230532
Takstar Pro 80
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>>58230603
>Is planar really that noticeable of a difference?
It's not the technology you are hearing but the output of it. To answer this: no but it depends on the reference, too. TR50P do not have the "planar bass" which requires a semi air-tight seal and a large diaphragm to move enough air. They roll off in the bass significantly but apparently with some modifications you can make the bass roll off less. You can't generalize planars and bass response or any kind of sound signature and driver technology for that matter.

Think of it like this: You don't need to know what is the transducer that creates the sound. It's a means to an end.
>>
>>58231320
Since you're one in the middle around here that seems to know exactly what you're talking about, can you tell me if setting the amp to high or low gain changes the sound quality at all? It doesn't seem to to me
>>
>>58231300
What mods did you end up doing?
How do they compare to the DT880s?

About to pull the trigger on some
>>
>>58231429
Quality? No, it never should. Use the lowest gain that you get a satisfying listening volume with. This gives you smoother volume adjustment, less likelihood of running into channel imbalance with high attenuation(volume pot turned nearly all the way down) and sometimes lower output impedance. The high gain is there if you need more power which would manifest as a lack of volume. There's no other use for it.
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>>58227829
This
>>
>Budget
$100 - $200
>Location
US
>Source
Garbage (Phone jack, laptop jack, low quality music player)
Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High
>Sound signature
V-Shape
>Past headphones
m50: Good sound. Thought they were uncomfortable
VModa M100: Same as above
>Other
Prefer folding headphones if possible.

Looking at DT770, but they're not folding.
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>>58230380
O2 is very good. Get it now
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>>58230380
Yes
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