Please stop calling it Linux. It's GNU/Linux or GNU plus

Alpine Linux though

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No, it isn't. "GNU/Linux" is made up artificial controversy for publicity.

>>58195343
Nah it's just Linux.

i'd like to interject for a moment. what you're referring to as GNU/Linux is in fact GanooLoonix, or as i've begun to call it "GooNix"

>>58195343
>>58195351
Do remember that the "GNU" is pronounced "gahnoo" not "new," because GNU is not new

>>58195511
It's like a toddler throwing a fit because he didn't get to name the new family dog

RMS is just asspained that Hurd never went anywhere for his precious userland tools.

>>58195650
seriously, how the fuck did one guy build an entire kernel himself, while mister autist 'last hacker' god himself couldn't fucking do it with a group of people in three decades?

>>58195672
It's simple, everything GNU/FSF touches gets torn up by internal conflicts. They're all communist hippies who only do it for recognition.

And unlike RMS, Torvalds actually knows his shit.

>>58195626
It's Spike/Fido.

>>58195672
Compare GNU true to BSD true and you'll notice the reason right away.

>>58195778
if throwing some seeds is so easy, why did the GNU project not manage to do it?

>>58195813
NO, IT'S CAPTAIN SNUFFALUPAGNUS

>>58195794
yeah i figured as much. it's like those retarded fucking hippies at noisebridge in san fran (where stallman visited). they're all hippie fucking retards and constantly infighting because they let homeless druggies sleep and piss and shit in their "hackerspace" and retards who think they're "hackers" do all sorts of retarded shit and almost burn the building down with their "electronics skills"

Even pronouncing GNU like Gahnoo is seriously fucking retarded

>>58195869
linux is a piss compared to what hurd was supposed to be
if hurd got actual development these days, it'd wipe the floor with linux

Richard stallman is the reason why the linux kernel didn't remain proprietary or worse, get bought by apple. Linus likes GCC and likes the GPL license. Give stallman credit where credit is due.

>>58195907
what are you basing this on?

>>58195907
>what hurd was supposed to be
>supposed to be
Yea, I was supposed to be an astronaut

What hurd was supposed to be is a piss compared to what my own personal kernel was supposed to be
if my own personal kernel got actual development these days, it'd wipe the floor with what hurd was supposed to be

>>58195907
>if I could run, I'd outrun Usain Bolt!
Sure thing, m8.

>>58195930
>GCC
Utter garbage.

>GPL license
A source of all kinds of legal incompatibilities between different open-source projects' source codes.

>>58196066
If it's so garbage, why has linus refused to use any other kernel? He has said so himself he likes GCC.

>A source of all kinds of legal incompatibilities between different open-source projects' source codes.
You're just mad you can't exploit GPL like permissive licenses like BSD.

Hurd is pronounced jalapeño

>>58196093
Meant to say why does he refuse to use any other compiler?

>>58195343
You give the impression that GNU is more important than Linux, and is the other way around. Should say Linux plus GNU.

>>58195343
It's Linux/SystemD/GNU/Gnome, faggot.

systemd/Linux

>>58196093

>you can't exploit GPL
I can and I have. The GPL is mostly unenforceable in most parts of the world.

Also, I'm not "exploiting", I'm just using the code. Stop acting superior, you have no moral high ground.

>>58196104

Politics and GCC specific extensions. Also, since when is Linus an authority on compilers? And since when is argumentum ad verecundiam not a fallacy?

>>58195592
No it's called "Gnoo". It's actually a word in German.
t.German

suck my dick

If I ever met RMS, all I'd do is intentionally anger him by repeatedly referring to it as just Linux.

I don't know why I hurt those who try to help me.

>>58196321
>stallman
>try to help you

Hello my friend, glorious *BSD features none of these childish naming problems

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>>58196240
It's a word in most languages, describing pic related. It's just that native English speakers (including RMS) are for some fucking reason unable to pronounce it as a single syllable that it is.

>>58196465
That is intentional. The name is a pun.

>>58195511
Holy shit Stallman BTFO

>>58196574
That's my biggest problem with the gnu shit. Everything's a fucking pun or some in joke or some other faggoty shit.

Hmmm...interesting side note--they bumped Hurd up to 0.9 a week ago.

>>58196671
I love the name GNU. I am actually wearing a GNU shirt right now.

>>58195343
>2016
>still using coreutils, and gcc
>not using toybox
>not using clang

pleb

>>58196671
Old school hacker culture was all about jokes and puns.

KEK/Autism

actually i made the processor and thus it's called processor + gnu + linux

>>58196810
Its actually electrons + processor + gnu / linux

>>58196858
Electrons/Copper/CPU/GNU/systemd/Linux/X.org

Or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Electrons+Copper+CPU+GNU+systemd+Linux/X.org

>>58196889
>>58196858
Who made the electrons?

>>58196911
quarks

>>58196911

Benjamin Franklin.

>>58196911

Electrons weren't made. Not everything has a cause.

you know you can run the desktop without shell nor utilities

>>58196964
Get a load of this guy

>>58195343
Excuse me, friend. FreeBSD is not (just) a kernel. It is, in fact, a complete operating system, complete with kernel, filesystem, coreutils, a modular and extensible compiler toolchain, and, of course, plenty of great documentation in the handbook.

>>58195511
no one actually gives a shit other than RMS and other speglords

>>58197367
remember you're telling this to a linux kiddie

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>>58195343
>X sits on top of the GNU shell
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

only GNUfags can possibly be this delusional

>>58195343
Linux is not UNIX. GNU is not UNIX.

>>58198612
>Editor not GNU
>not using ed or emacs

>>58195511

I just wanted to jump in here and point out that it's CON-tro-ver-sy, not con-TROV-er-sy.

Thank you for your time.

>>58198612
>shell is on top of DE
nigga what?

>>58199056
I use my shell inside a graphical terminal

>>58195873
> Wins the internet

>>58195343
No I'm running Gnome/X11/GNU/SystemD/Linux faggot

>>58199095
your TERMINAL EMULATOR is part of your DE and the fallback is XTerm.

xorg emulates your shell in a window and your DE/WM adds all of the font rendering colors and scaling. you can run bash/tcsh/zsh/whateverthefuck without a DE or even X for that matter. Shells are not dependent on anything but the kernel and some corelibs.

>>58198612
It's like a cancer tumor went and got more cancer tumors.
Fitting.

>>58199199
>your TERMINAL EMULATOR is part of your DE
no

>>58199242
>konsole isn't part of KDE
>gnome-terminal isn't part of GNOME
kill yourself

>>58199292
what DE is rxvt part of?

>>58199095
But you can't start your DE/WM without first logging into your shell.

>>58199361
Wrong, on virtually all modern distros the DE/WM gets started via a login manager like lightdm, gdm or sddm, which get started by your init system (systemd)

>>58199361
>I've somehow never heard of a display manager

>>58195907
Even if it got actual development these days, without a way to directly port drivers from linux to hurd it would never take off. Ever

>>58195343
GNU is not a complete OS, it does not provide the ability to `mount` (util-linux or on some systems busybox/toybox does) , GNU's """OS""" doesn't even provide a "ps" implementation.

Also where is the freedesktop.org people in the name GNU/Linux? They make xf86-*, or where is Open/LibreSSL? That's pretty important too.


Fuck off, just call the distro by its name.

>>58195672
>I dont know what the difference between a microkernel and a monolithic kernel is

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>>58195343
What I just told you is GNU/Linux is, in fact, just Linux, or as I've just now taken to calling it, Just Linux. Linux apparently does happen to be a whole operating system unto itself and comprises a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Most computer users who run the entire Linux system every day already realize it. Through a peculiar turn of events, I was misled into calling the system "GNU/Linux", and until now, I was unaware that it is basically the Linux system, developed by the Linux project.

There really isn't a GNU/Linux, and I really wasn't using it; it is an extraneous misrepresentation of the system that's being used. Linux is the operating system: the entire system made useful by its included corelibs, shell utilities, and other vital system components. The kernel is already an integral part of the Linux operating system, never confined useless by itself; it functions coherently within the context of the complete Linux operating system. Linux is never used in combination with GNU accessories: the whole system is basically Linux without any GNU added, or Just Linux. All the so-called "GNU/Linux" distributions are really distributions of Linux.

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>>58195343
No, it's Linux.

>>58195343
>GNU fags mad that based Linus Torvalds claimed all the credit
kek