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>>58179719
shameless bump

It depends on what you want to use it for. Gaming? Might wanna upgrade the GPU. Get a less memey case and peripherals to save some money.

You won't need the i7. Get an i5-6600K instead. Get a 1080. Are you overclocking? Otherwise you won't need water cooling. Depends on how silently you want the thing to run.

Also AFAIK current gen non xeon Intel CPUs only support a memory bandwidth of 2133mhz. Not sure if higher speed RAM could still be beneficial or if that is true at all.

Your setup is mostly overkill except for the GPU. But if you have the money to blast sure go for it.

>>58179719
CPU probably since I don't see games needing more than 4 cores with HT in the next 5 years. Graphics card will need to be replaced before then but should last awhile if you're fine lowering settings.

Get your CPU at microcenter if you have one near you as it's $50 cheaper there.

>>58179719
msi

go for gigabyte especially on mobo

>>58179835
>current gen non xeon Intel CPUs only support a memory bandwidth of 2133mhz
That's only on H110 and B150 chipsets, the Z170 supports 2400MHz and higher.

With that said, memory speed is mostly irrelevant for gaming. Only game I've heard that it matters in is Fallout 4, and the site that I saw test it seemed to use questionable testing methodology or the game is really just garbage. (it's bethesda so probably the latter)

>>58179835
In conclusion, yes your setup is future proof except for the GPU which is okay now but won't be at 1440p in the future.

Also beware of the gaymur peripherals from Logitech. I had an expensive headset break down on me really fast.

>>58179888
>but won't be at 1440p in the future.
and won't be at 1440p now in some games unless you like lowering settings. I've got a 1070 and there are some games that dip below 60 without dropping settings.

>>58179835
i will buy the 480 mainly to wait for vega if its doesnt deliver i will probably buy of the refresh pascal when they come..
i wanted the 6800 mainly for the video editing of gaming footage (usually 3-4 hours of racing ) and many many more hours of editing shit/photoshopping bla bla
>>58179842
i will upgrade it based on if amd delivers this time..
>>58179844
sadly i agree with you BUT given the countless reviews i saw (and a small number of youtube videos) that current setup offers a +15-+20% more speed than a gigabyte mobo

>>58179844

Just no. MSI is fine.

>>58179860
>RAM speed doesn't matter.

That is a myth. I can't source you the vid cuz I'm mobile fagging but there was an extensive survey of how ram speed affected framerate. It does matter. Google it.

>>58179936
>It does matter. Google it.
I'm not doing research for you.

>>58179888
>>58179900
i dont play any game at maximun +10.000 txaa +gazzilion of msaa bla bla
i lower the settings till i see an acceptable framerate (50-65) now if that means giving up a bit on the quality its fine with me afterall im playing mostly assetto corsa that even with the hdr mods(that really dry up the cpu) i doubt it will go lower than 50fps
(and ofc waiting for the star citizen meme which i doubt my card will be able to play it on high on any acceptable framerate..tho my current 260x is hitting 50 fps on mid without a single post process effect )

Spend less on meme peripherals, get at least a 1070. That GPU is nowhere near.enough to drive games on that monitor. It's midrange at best while the rest of your system is high end, it doesn't fit.

>>58179955
>i dont play any game at maximun +10.000 txaa +gazzilion of msaa bla bla
Neither do I, even without MSAA and TXAA I've been forced to drop settings in a few games on my overclocked 1070.

The RX480 is still a good card, just know it's limitations.

>>58179952

Are you 12?

I have done my research. I just fucking told you to do your own. I'm just handing out free advice. Do what you want it's a (((free))) internet.

>>58180026
>Are you 12?
No, I've been PC gaming for more than a decade and the difference is non-existent in 99% of game unless you're comparing 155fps vs 160.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvTWmNEpg3Q
WOW SUCH DIFFERENCE!

Anyway, I'm not saying he shouldn't get a Z170 board, he should. Just saying that the memory speed meme is the last thing you should be worried about. Your video card has a much much bigger impact on performance than 2133MHz DDR4 vs 2400MHz DDR4.

>>58179973
as i said i will buy it as a stop gap (given that amd will provide more support for it than nvidia will ever provide for their cards..) then when the new generation comes i will decide to buy a high end one(considering that vega will provide hbm2 for the high end and not just enthustiast)
>>58179986
indeed but given my situation (video editing encoding on handbrake bla bla ) if i buy an nvidia im pretty much cucked on handbrake since nvec isnt supported yet and if i wait for that cpu to process a 3-4h video well..

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>>58180076
>indeed but given my situation (video editing encoding on handbrake bla bla ) if i buy an nvidia im pretty much cucked on handbrake since nvec isnt supported yet and if i wait for that cpu to process a 3-4h video well..
Understandable. I personally hate nvidia but I bought a 1070 after seeing how much the RX 480 struggles with some games at 2560.

I'll switch back to AMD if they ever release the fucking 490.

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>>58180093
and here's what you should actually be comparing you retard because the two red boxes are choices that don't even fucking exist in the real world.

I'd like to see that same benchmark with a 6600K or 6700K anyway, you're cherry picking so fucking hard with a shitty dual core CPU and memory clock speeds that don't exist anymore. They don't make 1600MHz DDR4 and no one building a computer today would even have the choice of 1600MHz DDR3.

>>58180093
>>58180122
I should also point out that you're not even comparing the same CPUs, the 6100 beats the 4130 by 32fps using memory at the same clock speed. So nice benchmark dipshit.

>>58180102
well my autistic plan is
fps games->vsr to 1080p
assetto corsa can vsr it up to 4k without the smoke setting or stay on 2k
mmos vsr to 4k (the mmos i play have so much impact as minesweeper)
>>58180093
>>58180122
guys ddr3 vs ddr4 ofc it will have a big impact no question about that..
but ddr4 2xxx vs ddr4 3xxx is like 10% at max and that considering that you have an already fast mobo

>>58180122
I didn't highlight those autismo, it was a quick Google search. If you think a 6700k has an appreciable performance increase in games over a "shitty" i3 6100 you're the retarded one.
It's a fact that with DDR4 faster IS better, until around 3000Mhz where diminishing returns kick in. You have no proof to the contrary beyond your hilariously ineffective internet toughguy posturing.

>>58179719
>hold me
Serious question, what does this even mean? You're buying a 2560x1440 monitor with a RX 480, right out the gate you'll be lowering settings in new games. What level of performance are you expecting in 5 years?

>>58180159
>You have no proof to the contrary beyond your hilariously ineffective internet toughguy posturing.
Your fucking benchmark shows less than a 1fps difference with memory clocked more than 500MHz higher when actually comparing hardware from the same generation.

The difference only looks impressive when you compare an entirely different generation of CPU and memory to a faster CPU with significantly faster memory.

The 6700K would show more than 1FPS difference over the 6100 given it runs at a higher clock speed.

>>58180192
You do know there's more than one game in that chart right? But of course you're only focusing one the one example where the difference in minimal.
I still don't see you providing any evidence to back up your claims.

>>58179719
If I'm a poor fag is there anyway to get a decent intel based machine. I just want 60fps 1920x1080 on medium settings

>>58180242
I3 6100 + 1050Ti or RX470.

>>58180159
you are right considering that we are talking about dx11
if you are talking about vulcan/dx12 well..no

>>58180093
There's something fucked about those results, just look at Ryse on i3 6100, 2666MHz vs. 2133MHz, 103 vs 58FPS? There is no fucking way a 25% increase in memory clock, possibly with worse timings too, will almost double FPS.

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>>58180223
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k
Wow, look at how insignificant the difference actually is most of the time when you aren't pairing a $1200 video card with a $90 CPU.

Even when cherry picking by pairing with 1600MHz memory, something you can't do anymore with a new build, the difference is mostly insignificant with a quad core CPU. I never said "hey, buy the cheapest shittiest RAM possible, it doesn't matter!" I said that memory speed isn't the be all end all for gaming performance. It's mostly irrelevant and his RX 480 will bottleneck him way before he'd ever see a difference between 2133MHz and 2400MHz.

>>58180285
it's a pointless benchmark, they're pairing a Titan X with the shittiest CPU money can buy. As you can see in other tests there's a much smaller impact on performance when you're not being bottlenecked by two cores.
>>58180288

someone asks for a future proof pc
and anons talks about i3s

Not sure if I should create a thread for this

I'm not good at computer stuff, but I finally decided that my laptop just isn't fast enough, and I don't really carry it around with me. I'm thinking of getting a desktop.

I'm not that interested in gaming, but I'd like it if I could enjoy Space Engineers and From the Depths as more than just a slideshow. Is an AMD APU worth the money? £100-£150 for a decent CPU+GPU combination seems too good to be true, given that you're looking at this guys £2000 setup and calling it weak.

>>58180543
if you can wait till the zen apus comes(probably second half of 2017) then you can actually get an apu that will be able to hold its own
but the current ones arent really so powerfull (unless you dont care playing on high with post process shit enabled)

>>58180572
I don't really care about that
I might wait for the Zen APUs, depending on their price. The main problem with my laptop is that firefox takes like a minute to open. Thanks

>>58179719
>2016
>worried about future proofing
my laptop from 2009 can still do everything effortlessly

>>58180604
Firefox with a lot of tabs takes a lot to open anyway, because at some point Mozilla decided to keep on shitting on FF.

>>58180649
op here let me give you an info about what im using NOW

8gb no name ram
some matx gigabyte mainboard..
athlon 631
260x
an older than jesus wd hdd that when the weather its cold and i cold boot up i swear that it makes a tu 95 to blush with its noise..

so yeah this will be my first upgrade since i fucking got a job and i want to last because you never fucking know what will happen next..

>>58180691
little related life advice:
don't worry about "future-proofing" your PC, drop the shitty peripherals and get a $5 shitty headphone+mic set (yes, they exist- I got one right here) and save or invest the rest. You can never have or save enough money. Consider your job security- will you be earning the same in the next few months? If not, a budget PC may be more suitable. 100% drop the i7 for an i3 or at the very most an i5. Keep the graphics card, and drop the liquid CPU cooler (why???). Ask yourself whether or not you actually need that SSD and the $500 monitor. And fucking hell a $120 wireless mouse? Are you serious? $190 "GAMING" KEYBOARD? jesus man

>>58180813
well if i could earn this shit in 6-8 months i wouldnt really care lol but no
i will keep the mouse only and maybe the keyb the headset is for my sis to make her realise how shitty logitech is (tho soundwise from the 5-6 i tried on a local shop its the best )

>>58180949
remove the keyboard and get a sane choice- that keyboard costs almost $200. Generally any hardware peripherals with the words "GAMING", "CHAOS" or some other edgy keyword is priced double what it's actually worth.

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>>58180093
what about the same i4000 CPU, thats 15% frame difference

>>58180122
see >>58182524