Why are Americans so far behind the times and still using SMS

>>58140200
Americans still use imperial units
Americans still buy locked phones
Americans still use magnetic-stripe cards
Americans still use DSL with data caps
Americans microwave water
Americans sit on their roofs wearing red plastic cups
Americans put eggs in the fridge doors and buy aerosol cheese
Americans have two parties and call that "a democracy"

Americans do a lot of weird stuff, using SMS is perhaps the least strange thing about this nation

>>58140200
What's wrong with SMS?

>>58140512
objectively inferior to a messaging app and SMS aren't even encrypted.

>>58140200

only 3rd worlders use whatsapp

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There's a lot of factors (mostly corporate nonsense) that hold back a lot of technological advancement amongst the average Amerifat in Clapistan.

Mostly, it boils down to this:
>Wow! Look at this new thing!
>Does it cost money to adapt to new thing?
>Yes.
>Let's just keep the old thing.

>>58140298
>Americans sit on their roofs wearing red plastic cups
What is that?

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You do Americans use automatic transmission instead of superior manual transmission?

>>58140200
>sms is old-fashioned

last i checked, sms is faster and doesn't require internet. also only indians use whatsapp

>>58140809
>manual
>superior
LOL

What's it like living in the past? Today's automatics shift faster than manuals ever could and they're more efficient.

Please kill yourself post hated you luddite faggot.

>>58140592
>only 3rd worlders use modern technology
>we use SMS technology from decades ago
hurr durr murrica pride

>>58140809
Why would I want to bother with manual transmission? I hate driving.

>>58140512
Can't send files. Length limit.

>>58140821
>faster
what?

also, sms doesn't have
>delivery confirmation
>read confirmation
>groups
>location and data transfer
>encryption

and who the fuck doesn't have internet anyway? are you seriously calling someone a third worlder when you're the one who doesn't have internet all the time? top lmao

>in america mobile internet is such a luxurious resource that they have to send SMS
do you communicate through smoke signals as well? top fucking kek

>>58140200
WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and iMessage are used by millions of people in this country. None of them are SMS.

>>58140809
Because in the land of frivolous lawsuits, you can't even trust Americans to wipe their own ass without injuring themselves, let alone manually shift their cars.

Every product must do the job as automatically as possible, with the least amount of consumer interaction. Any form of physical contact between the product and consumer must include a 20-page disclaimer that prevents numerous creative ways the consumer can snake through the lawbooks and sue the company for neglect.

>>58140512
No encryption.

>>58140844
They take pride in not having internet on their phones all the time and call third worlders those who do.

>>58140809
>Shifts slower
>Loses more power
>One more thing for the driver to do

I'm sorry what's the advantage again? Drive a car made in the last 5 years with an automatic transmission. Manual "peasant" technology is completely obsolete.

Source: drove manuals for over 10 years, bought a new car with paddles.

>Facebook botnet

>>58140899
automatics suck big time if you're driving in hilly terrain unless its got sport mode

>>58140809
Only 80%. but why the HELL does your car say Microsoft?!

>>58140592
This. Third worlders get fleeced for sending 10 characters across the mobile network. It's all unlimited in the greatest nation.

>>58140955
Bet you love getting spied on too

I would feel dirty if I had to use text messages tb.h.

>>58140875
>>58140580
What is PGP

>>58140999
America uses A5/1 SMS encryption and it's trivially easy to crack.

>>58140298
>Americans microwave water
>Americans sit on their roofs wearing red plastic cups
nigga wat

>Americans still use imperial units
I defend all but grams/liters.
We use M/D/Y bc we say "January 12th" (minus 4th of July).
Temperature of Fahrenheit is better due to increased variety. 0-100 is for water. I am a human not a water.

>>58140871
>frivolous lawsuits
meme perpetuated by corporations to make you afraid of suing.

How has nobody mentioned whatsapp is a botnet?

>>58140788
>Not sitting on your roof wearing red plastic cups.
Get a load of this guy. What do you use? Blue cups?

>>58140298
>Americans have two parties and call that "a democracy"
Still better than whatever commie system you use, eurocuck.

>>58141029
>botnet
there it is, that word that you keep using without knowing what it means
provide evidence of wpp being used as a botnet or shut up retard

>>58140964
Sorry, Facebook can't spy on me because I don't use Whatsapp.

In Europe we use whatsapp because a lot of providers make it so that using whatsapp doesn't even consume data (along with snapchat and ig). in portugal at least.
from what i've heard americans have to pay crazy amounts for mobile data so it's kind of understandable

>>58141031
I live in building, the "roof" can be reserved for barbecues and pool parties.

Isn't a 'plastic cup' a device you fill with a liquid that you can then drink?
Isn't 'wearing' the act of using clothes on your body?

How do you wear a plastic cup.

>>58141059
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/25/whatsapp-to-give-users-phone-number-facebook-for-targeted-ads

hurr durr anyone who disagrees with me is a retard
also

>inb4 that's not what a botnet is
It's malicious.
It's doing things without your permission and connecting to a central server.

>>58141096
That facilitates monopolies and should be illegal.

>>58141059
https://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=6143
Even if its not a botnet, it's doing some pretty sketchy shit.

>>58140200
Everyone here uses iMessage or facebook messenger.

>>58140788
It's a joke about how many American films/tv shows have a scene where they sit on their roofs and talk about something. American films/tv shows also show frat parties where everyone drinks out of plastic red cups all the time.

Obviously it's not accurate. Americans would fall through their roof if they sat on it since their houses are made of cardboard. And if you drank in public, you'd get arrested.

>>58140809
>he expects me to stop sending my SMS messages and drinking my big gulp while driving to use a fruity gear stick

>>58141029
>I recently binge-watched Adam Ruins Everything

>>58141150
>Obviously it's not accurate. Americans would fall through their roof if they sat on it since their houses are made of cardboard.
kek

>And if you drank in public, you'd get arrested.
What a fucking shitland.

>>58141112
It is in America because of net neutrality but that's about to end

>>58141099
They are part of the same company, giving your phone number to one is pretty much like giving it to the entire corporation. And you are bending the definition of botnet to fit your arguments.

>>58141139
Yep that's odd, still a million times more secure than SMS. For sexting and stuff like that it's pretty much completely secure. If you really want to be 100% private you should probably use Signal anyway.

>>58141139
Pretty much every app doesn't delete data securely. It costs too much time and energy to remove data while destroying any way to forensically trace it. And it's not like SMS avoids the issue either, it's still far less secure.

>>58140875

you say no encryption like a bad thing and then use fucking whatsapp?

my god damn sides

>>58141204
>It is in America because of net neutrality but that's about to end
It's illegal in a lot of other countries too.

>>58141229
whatsapp is literally encrypted though

>>58141231
Yeah I guess but I don't really give a shit about other countries

>>58140200
WhatsApp was created in america you insufferable fagget

>>58141242

>google
>encryption

please tell me you are fucking joking

>>58141023
You are measuring water you shitlord.

>>58141256
yeah just like credit card chips and you didn't even implement the technology you came up with

>>58141257
god damn you're retarded

>open standard vs proprietary solution
What is XMPP, anon? Oh, that thing that prevents walled gardens and was killed by Google, Facebook and WhatsApp
>OP is the cancer that is killing /g/

>>58140200
We had this thread yesterday, ya viraling fuck.

>>58141279
You might be retarded anon. I used a credit card with a chip today in the states

>>58141023
~65% of human weight is water, anon.
Unless you're american, then 100% of your weight is fat.

>>58140809
>Americans use calculators instead of writing the equations on pieces of paper
>Americans use automatic headlights instead of manually turning them on and off
>Americans use electronic calculators synced across all their devices with notifications about events instead of having a physical calender in the kitchen with everything written on it

Fucking Americans, they're so backwards.

>>58141350
The difference is that the rest of the world can also drive an automatic as well as a manual. There are literal third-worlders who are smart enough to drive a manual car yet most Americans can't even manage that.

>>58140821
>sms is faster
It's significantly slower, actually. (Not just slower than Whatsapp, but all internet messengers.)
It usually takes a couple of seconds to be delivered. I wonder why, must be because of some old tech from the 90s...

>>58140946
That's the little "sync by Microsoft" plaque they fuck your dash with. It's an awful awful radio, infotainment software thing

>>58140875
If you're so concerned about your privacy you need all your messages encrypted then why the fuck would you use WhatsApp, developed by a company that cares as little about your privacy as possible?

Has whatsapp not been hacked repeatedly putting user info at risk?

>>58141768
nope

>>58140200
>Using anything owned by facebook

Why would you do that to yourself? When you aren't paying for something that isn't FOSS, then YOU are the product.

>>58140580
>cares about encryption
>uses an app that requires play services always running in background
wew

>>58141848
It doesn't require gapps

>>58140899

>Shifts slower
An automatic can "shift faster" but still be slower than a manual due to parasitic loss (Does not apply to DCT's). Just look at every Subaru ever made, the manuals are always accelerate faster, of course you have to be a competent driver to achieve this.

>Loses more power
There's inherent parasitic losses thanks to driving a high pressure fluid pump, extra weight, and the reality of how torque converters work (does not apply to DCT''s)

>One more thing for the driver to do
Sorry to hear you spent 10 years driving a stick and still suck at it, it's okay.

>>58140298
>Americans microwave water

It's effortless. No reason exists not to use a microwave for that job.

I don't require encryption because I'm not messaging classified data. I wouldn't send that over a phone by any method, or the internet. If the NSA want your shit you can't stop them. I want an NSA minder to prove my bona fides in case I ever need to renew my security clearance. I don't care if they watch me fap to goat porn.

Reasons do not exist for me to prefer manual transmissions (except on motorcycles) to auto. Driving is work. More work is pointless for no return. I've been driving manuals longer than most of you faggots have been on the planet, but only lately has a manual transmission become some sort of stupid tryhard hipster macho statement. Shifting is easy but it's still extra work. When I use my trucks it's much more convenient to have an automatic for towing, pulling other vehicles where I want them prior to trailering, preloading trees for controlled felling, or just driving in traffic.

>>58142003
If i go on whatsapp.com the only option is to "get it on google play". Also i remember from the times i used to use it that it required to dowload every new update from there

>>58142058
>There's inherent parasitic losses thanks to driving a high pressure fluid pump, extra weight, and the reality of how torque converters work (does not apply to DCT''s)

If your engine is tiny enough that those matter, consider a moped.

>>58140844
SMS is unlimited in America so we don't have to bother with silly peasant apps

>>58142069
>If i go on whatsapp.com the only option is to "get it on google play".
huh?
https://www.whatsapp.com/android/

Signal is the only messaging app you should use.

https://signal.org

>using IM apps
Well my SMS is free. I already have to trust my provider why trust another random company?

>quit Facebook
>quit snapchat
>quit instagram
>'oh anon how do we talk to you?'
>'get whatsapp anon'

Boy I sure want them to have all my personal data when it's owned by (((them)))

>>58142069
Use Aptoide instead. It's a trusted app supplier and from what I've heard it's FOSS. There are also other ways to download apps off Google without gapps.

You normally need an "app store" on your phone unless you want to download and update apps manually. If you're no longer using play store then Aptoide is one of better options. F-droid is also good as it has lots of useful open source apps.

>>58140200
>SMS is obsolete goy!
>use the botnet!
I'm only sending well encrypted messages through SMS or the internet using free, libre software.

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>>58142137
>less features
>requires GApps
>still requires phone number

I think you meant to say Wire.

>>58141023
>because we say
You sure it wasn't the other way around anon?
Because here we say 12th of January.

>>58142082
The other post said that manuals had higher power loss, which is plainly false. Parasitic loss is still parasitic loss, doesn't matter if its a 50cc 2 stroke or a battle ship engine.

>>58142058
>you spent 10 years driving a stick and still suck at it, it's okay
It's not ok, idiots like that should lose their license.
If you aren't disabled l, but can't use a manual transmission, you shouldn't be allowed to obtain a license to drive.

>>58142102
Oh, i didn't search enough. I assumed they were like other companies that rely only on google. That's a point for them

because some of us still call people and are not 22 year old females

>>58142187
Ehh, I'm not that hard core on it. There's plenty of people that drive stick but still otherwise are bad drivers. I'd rather see more enforcement on basic road manners. There's so many people that don't understand basic fucking things like right-of-way, merging properly, not hogging the left lane, etc, etc.

>>58142247
Go to bed dad

>>58142257
go trim your two facial hairs

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>>58141023
>Temperature of Fahrenheit is better due to increased variety. 0-100 is for water. I am a human not a water.

>>58140298
>not putting eggs in the fridge

>>58140809
Americans are too dumb to use manual transmission.

>>58142299
europeans are too dumb to see why automatic is better

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>>58142299
>americans have better vehicles

>>58141808
Yup, it has you fucking idiot.

If you're on a contract you might as well use up all the texts they give you and get your money's worth.

Me though i'm on PAYG, and i haven't needed to top up in months thanks to WhatsApp. If you live in a city you're never too far away from a place with free wifi. Even buses now have wifi, so i see no need to ever pay for calls/texts ever again.

>>58140200
why am i so far ahead and don't use that pic related
i dont even use a "smart" phone

>>58140298
Canada does most of this with more restrictions and higher cost. Feels fucking badman

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HONEYPOT

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>>58140955
>>58140821
>>58142094
>>58142094
>boasting about unlimited sms
>get cucked heavily with data caps from network providers and ISPs

My sides

My sides

I mostly use Hangouts with a bit of Wire on the side. Haven't been able to get everyone in the Hangouts group chats I'm in to migrate to Wire, unfortunately. I also use IRC, of course.

>>58142928

BOTNET
O
T
N
E
T

>>58140580

>SMS aren't even encrypted

but but but mine is better than yours

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>>58142970
>implying I'm a poorfag thirdworlder like you who has caps, penalties for overages and gets charged just to turn on your phone

>>58142859
Canadians use metric units.
Locked phones is true
Canadians haven't used magnetic-stripe cards in years unless their chip or tap is no longer working and its a last resort
Canadians have the option for unlimited data almost everywhere and any town/city larger than a few rednecks has fiber or cable.
Canadians can't microwave water because its too cold here, it just stays ice
Canadians don't have roofs that we can physically sit on, the igloo would collapse
I've never seen a Canadian put eggs in the door, they're always on the middle shelf. And I don't think we even have aerosol cheese Also >eating eggs and dairy
Canadians have three parties and we can vote for anyone we want because the parties are decided by the amount of elected officials in local ridings.

You're wrong about nearly everything, anon.

>>58140200
Canadian here. It's because the 3 telecom giants gouge us for mobile data.

>>58143094
>caps
>penalties for over usage

Literally Murica. You sound mad since I truly have an unlimited data plan equivalent to around $18 a month. I'm still laughing fucking hell

Do you use Signal /g/?

>>58143118
Canadians are cucks regardless

>>58140298
>>58140788
>>58141023
>>58141031
>>58141150
>americans pronounce the word "roof" as "ruff"

>>58140809
>americans call manual transmission "stick"

>>58140200
Why are Europeans so far behind the times? Not even using SMS yet.

Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.

Not american, but Id rather not add another party to log all my fucking messeges. Besides why they hell add a bunch of 3rd party apps just to messege people, when there is a unified one everyone has built into your phone.

>>58140854
literally everyphone just puts them together anyway. YOu can send an essay.
Also you can send files through MMS

>>58140844
>SMS invented 1992
>IRC invented 1988
Europeans are really this retarded....

>>58141023
>Temperature of Fahrenheit is better due to increased variety. 0-100 is for water. I am a human not a water.

100 F is not even an average human temperature (and an average human temperature would make no sense because it's different from person to person what is "normal")

Celcius is a stable and scientifically measurable value.

>>58140946
Lest we forget Synch is a Ford infotainment.
Nice.

>>58140298
Imperial units are better for day to day use. Metric is designed for science

>>58144057
>better for day to day use.
How on earth do you figuire? Weather is built around water temperature 0 degrees as freezing point makes that easy.

>>58140200
>using whatsapp instead of wire

kill yourself, get the fuck off of /g/ and go back to /v/

>>58144130
And this in a nutshell is why sms is the best. There is just fucking 1 sms. You don't have to download whatsapp for these losers facebook for hardcore normies, "wire" for this autist etc etc.

>>58144057

Fahrenheit, sure. Everything else is completely arbitrary and has no benefit over metric.

>>58144057
This. I love remembering twelve inches in a foot 3 feet in a yard 1760 yards in a mile.
Or you know 63360 inches in a mile.
Really intuitive straight forward easy to remember and well suited for mental math. Not to mention how consistent the units are!

>>58143795
>file transfer limitations that MMS cannot solve
>no delivered/read receipts
>no solid infrastructure for group chats
>3rd party apps allow for free voice and video calls

SMS needs to either evolve and compete with messaging apps or just die off.

>>58141022
Oh come on.

Nobody is watching the air interface and cracking the GSM encryption.

What he meant is that the telco can see your SMS and give it to law enforcement.

>>58140298
Unfortunately if you buy eggs in a store you have to keep the refrigerated because they had the protective skin and diseases washed off. Couldn't believe it though when I found out that's the only reason...

>>58140839
Double clutch gear boxes shift faster...That's not really an automatic though. Completely different mechanics than an auto. More closely related to a manual

>>58140939
>>58140939
>>58140939

this

>>58140298
>Americans have two parties and call that "a democracy"
>implying democracy is a good system
>be /g/
>not supporting technocracy
>caring what the common retard believes about anything

>>58142067
>No reason exists not to use a microwave for that job.
>americans want activated atoms in the water they are about to drink

>>58144208
Man thank you. It's just amazing how stupid the average American can be.

>>58140200
Because there's no one good choice in America. Some of my friends use Facebook Messenger, others use Snapchat, others still use Kik, some use BBM, etc. So I can go and install 4 or 5 IM clients and use them all in tandem to contact everyone or I can just use SMS, a messaging platform that everyone has. I'll stick with SMS.

>>58140298
>Americans like J Cole and Childish Gambino
this shit is fucked

At least SMS doesn't require me to install non-free software on my phone.

XMPP > SMS > proprietary shit

but most people don't use XMPP

>market forces
>Monopolies holding everyone back
>Jews

>>58141627
>>58143852
And this is why I don't drive Ford (anymore) If MS has got their spy shit in my car hell wth it!

>>58140298
Nobody calls it a democracy. Literally the opposite

>>58140200
>>58140298
OBSESSED

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Americans actually use iMessage.

Enjoy not getting dates because of your green text bubbles

>>58140200
SMS is a standard while WhatsApp is proprietary garbage that could vanish overnight under the right conditions.

>>58140946
It's Ford Sync by Microsoft. Just another shitty infotainment system.

>>58142150
Holy Baby Jesus my sides

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>>58141182
2 be honest senpai, you aren't playing life in hard mode until you're successfully driving your manual around a corner and slurping that double gulp simultaneously.

So difficult, but so rewarding. Don't tell me you're still playing on ez mode at your age. I mean come on I was steering with my knees on my learner permit.

>>58147743
>dating niggers/americans

>>58141150
>Americans would fall through their roof if they sat on it

Funny you mention...
http://tech.mit.edu/V133/N37/fall.html

>>58140298
I was with you until the whole putting eggs in the fridge part.

>>58144406
I'm not only speaking of DCTs - torque converters these days shift far faster and far more efficiently as well.

It's almost (but not quite) impossible to find a manual version of a car that accelerates as quickly or is as efficient as the automatic version.

This has been true for years. You luddites should learn a thing or two.

>>58140839
you are such a faggot if you have a penis and call yourself a man but can't drive a stick then having a penis doesn't even matter you pussy. you're a limp wristed fuck who's too scared to break a nail by throwing your own shifts

>>58149489
>bait

>>58140298
> pulled for speeding
> get shot
> medical treatment is hundredthousand dollars lifetime loan

Best country in the world

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How do we save America?
>Drug overdoses now kill more Americans than guns
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/drug-overdose-deaths-heroin-opioid-prescription-painkillers-more-than-guns/

>>58140809
nice dick

>>58140899
its basically "muh efficiency" meme that people like to bring up when they think about race cars and high end drivers that use manual transmission

>>58140200
>wanting PRC to spy on you

>>58149599
automatic transmissions weigh more, you're using more fuel because your car is heavier and good luck with constant tire rotations since now your car is front heavy as fuck and the possibility of oversteering into a tree

>>58140899
>>58149599
Driving is incredibly boring and the manual transmission gives me something to do.

Apart from that, it's nearly impossible to find used automatics here in Europe. 99% of all cars are manual.

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>>58140809

But I do. Except unlike your eurocuck piece of shit, I'm actually allowed to have more than 1.4L displacement.

>>58149676
he's driving a ford focus he's not european, europeans moved on from ford focuses when every other car make started making better cars then ferd

I work in a rural area, internet is simply slower than sms, when i can find it that is

>>58149676
>I'm actually allowed to have more than 1.4L displacement.
Do you really thing larger engines are illegal in Europe?

>>58149693
No, but they are typically taxed to hell and back.

>>58149693
think even

>>58149693
3.0 diesel with 4 turbos would demolish a hemi pigfat challenger on the autobahn

>>58141322
Euro-Kek

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Reminder that Americans have speed limits on their highways, lmao. They're literally not allowed to drive as fast as they want.
>land of the free

>>58149523
Not really. If you're a man you should at least be able to drive stick. Whether or not you choose to is purely situational.

>>58149706
Wouldn't anything with four turbos demolish anything else?

>>58149757
but diesel ooozes luxury, what better way than to spray diesel soot over the plebians

>>58149489
lrn2comma

>>58149785
>tfw balls deep in the throttle, supercharger wailing like a banshee, 700hp worth of dinosaurs being blasted out of the tailpipe and no soot with which to spray plebeians

>>58149837
why even live

>>58149721
If you're a man you should be able to ride a horse and make horses pull your car.
This is how retarded you sound.

>>58150344
Sounds like someone doesn't know how to drive a manual. If you're a man you should also be able to change your own oil, and plug a tire. There are things that men used to be able to do, but now can't because manliness has been eroded over the years.

>>58150481
Why even complicate things? I live in a place where every car has a stick. I just want a joystick controller instead of this shit.
I don't care about cars or driving, I'm not a car enthusiast. I want driving to be as simple as possible, I even mostly use public transport within the city. Can't wait for Google cars to become a thing.

>>58148136
Refrigerating eggs is retarded. It's all because the US legislation force the egg producers to wash their eggs before selling them.

http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-heres-why-we-need-to-refrigerate-eggs-20140714-story.html

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>>58140298

>>58140298
>Americans have two parties and call that "a democracy"

Doesn't matter how many parties they have when the one with the least votes from citizens wins.

>>58140200

Its now owned by facebook, and therefore comprises all security and privacy.

DO NOT USE WHATSAPP

>>58153593
Assmad faggot detected. Listen, what Hillary is doing is like a football coach who says, "I know they scored 21 points and we only scored 18, but they only scored three times and we scored 6 times. We should win."

>warm and fuzzy
SHART

>>58153593
Hillary ignored her staff who told her to campaign in swing states more because she bought into the bullshit that the media was selling and considered herself annointed.

Is it true that Americans can't handle roundabouts?

>>58157161
American here, there are roundabouts all over around here

>>58141023
>I am a human not a water.
This is how Trump got elected. Jesus fucking Christ

I use Verizon Messages+

>>58140200
Puertorican fag that has been using this +3 years reporting

Isn't WhatsApp only more popular because texting is so expensive in Europe while everything here is free?

>>58140875
The average consumer doesn't give two shits about encryption and puts their every move on Facebook for the public to see.

>>58160125
>Isn't WhatsApp only more popular because texting is so expensive in Europe while everything here is free?

Yes and these cucks actually think it's a good idea to be tied to a single company's service- a company that is owned by Facebook at that.

>>58140298
>Americans still use DSL with data caps
This is extremely uncommon in the US, but it is very common in Canada

>>58140821
>only Indians
You're forgetting Isis, the Italian and Russian mobs, and the Mexican cartels. Not even fucking kidding.

>>58141058
>cuck
Edgy teenager detected.

Everyone in my country uses WhatsApp. Not having Facebook is not much of an issue, but WhatsApp seems to become the new standard for texts. I wish the standard would be something like XMPP+OTR ...

>>58161250
Ever since WhatsApp became mainstream and barely anyone texts anymore most European providers started giving everyone "unlimited" (fair use is probably a few thousand). As long as people pay don't have alternatives they can keep prices artificially high.

>>58141029
>meme perpetuated by corporations to make you afraid of suing.
Actually it's probably because suits can be filed in any of the various states a company operates in. Meaning every stupid fucking state law ever from any of the states can be used to hit a big national/multinational company, pretty much.

>>58140200
why do foreigners care so much about us? literally no one here cares about what happens in europe, asia, etc.

>>58140200
Because SMS has worked flawlessly (for the most part) for the last 30 years.

Why fix something that's not broken? Besides, MMS is more popular nowadays.

>>58140298
>Imperial
Don't even start
>Locked phones
I blame Apple
>Magnetic Stripe cards
This is more insecure than RFID and
>DSL
I wish they wouldn't
>Microwave water
Never seen that happen
>Sit on roofs wearing red plastic cups
What in God's name are you talking about
>Eggs in fridge doors
Never heard of that
>Aerosol cheese
I like my damn spray cheese now back off
>Politics
Go back to /pol/

>>58140580


>>58140844
>SMS from decades ago
If you want to get technical, they're all based on standards that are decades older even.

>>58140854
MMS is built in now.

>>58140869
>Delivery confirmation
Now it does
>Read confirmation
Why do you need this
>Groups
MMS
>Location and data transfer
MMS
>encryption
What is it with you guys and your encryption? Jesus Christ.

>>58140875
Again, what the fuck is up with encryption? Why does it matter so much to you guys? If you're not doing anything wrong there's no problem with it, and if someone wanted to steal your data they could always decrypt it anyways.

>>58140939
>Internet at all

>>58141022
>easy to crack
Why do you care if the homeless man down the street now has a picture of your dog's tombstone?

>>58162429
This.

It's all a big meme, why the hell would you care so much about something so trivial?

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>>58162477
>why fix something that isn't broken?
>nothing to hide, nothing to fear!
Fucking americans

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>>58140200
>Why are Americans so far behind the times and still using SMS instead of pic related?
As an European I can with 100% confidence say that only poor people use WhatsApp and other messaging applications.

Plans with unlimited SMS/calling is pretty much a standard among people with regular income.

Whatsapp is incredibly popular among Germans, Pakis, Somalis and other brown-skinned ethnic groups.

>>58162525
I have unlimited SMS and still use WhatsApp, it's just better.

>>58162536
Like I said.

Germans
Pakis
Somalis
and other brown people

>>58162506
>fucking americans
Look, I don't know about you eurofags, but I don't do anything with personal information across the internet. The furthest I'll go is an email address. Anything important is either hardcopy or stored on a computer that hasn't seen an internet connection since 1999 and is stored in a fireproof safe.

If my 1988 Mercury Grand Marquee has absolutely no problems and still serves it's purpose fine - why the hell do I need to replace or repair it? I don't want XM radio, I don't need the safety features, I don't need better fuel efficiency.

Just because you can doesn't always mean you particularly should.

On the nothing to hide, nothing to fear:
If the U.S. Government wants to snoop on my hentai collection, have at it. I don't even bother to password protect that laptop anymore.

>>58140200
I don't use it because it's too stupid in some ways.

>paying for messaging app
>ever

>it took like 5 years to get voice calls and 7 to get video calls

>web version requires you to have a phone with app installed.
>PC version requires you the same.
>PC VERSION

>they store chats locally
Now this can be seen as "security", complete with end-to-end encryption, but it's just a facade with no guarantee.
It's just inconvenient and retarded.

How did this get popular is beyond me. I'd rather use an actual messaging service, not this abomination. Hell, even facebook messenger is better than this shit.

>>58162477
>Again, what the fuck is up with encryption? Why does it matter so much to you guys?
Err, because we learned that the NSA + their counterparts have tapped the telcom backbones of most of the fucking developed world, share all this data with each other, and maintain permanent records thereof, for everyone, ever, in a nice little searchable database?

And yes there is a problem with it. When you mail someone, the government doesn't intercept it, photocopy it, send a copy to all of its allies, and store it in a warehouse indefinitely. Not because they wouldn't, either, but because they're not fucking allowed to. And for good reason.

>>58162540
I'm none of those and most people in the world use some form of messaging application be it WhatsApp, Skype, Slack, Discord, etc. You probably don't use any but that's because you don't have anyone to talk to and your mom's dumbphone only does SMS.

>>58162575
What exactly are you sending that you don't want them to see? If that's the case maybe they're not the problem.

Fine, take my shitty texts between me and my parents, take my trashy photos of my house throughout the year. They can keep all that. Hey, if they want to snoop through my hentai collection too, have at it. I don't give a shit, and you really shouldn't either. It makes you seem suspicious.

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>>58162525
this 2bh

>>58162617
It's the principle of the matter you moron. Sure the current government might not do anything oppressive with this collections regime, but you can't say for certain that future ones won't want to.

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>>58140200
Americans literally elected an insane retard president, what do you expect....

>>58162630
>principle of the matter
The principle of the matter is that if you don't give them reason to use that information against you... *gasp* you don't have to worry about it! Never would have guessed that one, would you?

>>58162633
You're saying that Hillary would have been better? I say we picked the lesser of two evils.

>>58162605
kek, keep projecting.

>because you don't have anyone to talk to and your mom's dumbphone only does SMS.
Its funny you say that after mentioning slack and discord which are primarily tools for communicating between overweight manchildren drooling over videogames.

People use skype for international calls because it costs nothing.
And for convenient video calls.

And germans, poorfags and other brown folk use whatsapp for communication.

>>58162651
Hillary is not batshit crazy. As awful as she was, qualification and being surrounded by real experts matters. As you'll soon find out.

>>58162663
I'll still take the guy who had a brief cameo in Zoolander over the woman married to the man that was probably one of our worst presidents to date.

"Behind every great man is an even greater woman"

It goes both ways, good and bad.

>>58162651
>The principle of the matter is that if you don't give them reason to use that information against you... *gasp* you don't have to worry about it! Never would have guessed that one, would you?

>I'm okay with the government illegally collecting evidence on me because they haven't used it against me (yet)
And you don't see how this could be problematic somewhere down the line?

>>58162675
> one of our worst presidents to date.

That's the stupidest shit I read all week. Completely untrue.

>>58141023
>0-100 is for water. I am a human not a water.
Okay, but temperature in day to day life relates to two things. Cooking and Weather.

Both Cooking and Weather are centered around the boiling point of water. Fahrenheit only really makes sense for medical purposes. But even then its easy to just remember that a humans normal temperature is 37°C rather than any fucking thing else.

And Kelvin is for science.

>>58162663
>and being surrounded by real experts matters.
What's the point of being surrounded by real experts if you don't give a shit about their advice?

>>58162677
Oh absolutely. It's just that I couldn't care less.

>>58162689
Name a worse president than Clinton other than Nixon.

Granted, I wasn't of age to vote when Clinton was in office, but I certainly knew plenty of people that exercised that privileged.

>>58162701
>It's just that I couldn't care less.
This kind of cavalier attitude toward rights is not one I can say I'd expect from a clapper. Are you sure you're not native to the UK or something?

How do you feel about assault sticks?

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>>58162663
>Hillary is not batshit crazy.
Does wanting a wall along the Mexican border qualify as batshit crazy?
Because she was also in that jam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yMmG5p0Ll8

>>58162700
It's Trump who has an ego problem and mistrust of experts starting from climate, environment and vaccines to foreign policy, trade relations and economics.

And frankly for your stupidity you deserve what's coming to you.

>>58162701
Just stop. Bill Clinton is universally recognized as one of the most popular presidents.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-clinton-most-popular-president-in-last-25-years-125018234.html

>>58162717
Use it if you've got a valid reason. Native to Germany (in the 1700s - 1800s), but not the U.K.

>>58162752
Let me stop you there - This is /g/, go back to /pol/ please.

>>58162717
more like NAFTA, and his bullshit raiding of social security to cover all the rest of the money him and his wife embezzled during his time in office, along with the mysterious deaths of most of the people that he didnt like.

and white water.

>>58162731
he at least has opinions, the clintons dont care about shit, but ripping everyone off. she lied about everything she was interviewed about, and never had the same thing to say twice. she also had conflict of interests in the mineral one mining deal, that sold about a quarter of the uranium deposits in the united states to a russian owned company. plus slick willy being a sexual predator.

>>58162752
and bill cosby, jimmy saville, OJ Simpson, and trayvon martin dindu nuffin wrong.

>>58162778
Yes, this is /g/ which doesn't mean that you're gonna get away with posting completely untrue nonsense. So keep this in mind please.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-clinton-most-popular-president-in-last-25-years-125018234.html

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>>58162731
I like it how the stupidest people are often the most eager to call others stupid and very self-confident at it.
Let's look at a case of Hillary's ego:

>Paris attacks happen
>attackers used open insecure communication without any encryption
=======
>Does Hillary let her experts assess the situation before she goes public with her opinion, and does she listen to the advice of her experts?
Nope.
She not only jumps the wagon and goes public, she starts an anti-encryption crusade immediately.
=======
>What does this mean?
Impatience. Very bad leadership quality and a sign of ego.
Not caring about her advisory and experts and their opinions or giving them time to assess the situation. Very bad leadership quality and a sign of ego.
Completely digging herself a hole when she started her tirade against encryption and completely missing the point. Questionable trust, which is very bad for someone trying to be a leader.

She's the same as Trump. Equally bad.
Get your head out of your ass.

Let's not even get into the topic of listening to historian advisory.
A woman who still supports deposing of political despots in the Middle East despite the last 10 years proving that it is better to have a functional despot with a functional country in place, than the theocratic alternative with a country that has destroyed infrastructure due to a civil war, is retardation skyline.
Given how Hillary supports Bush Jr.'s foreign policy, so much about cultural and historic advisory and experts.

>>58162804
>keep this in mind please
Keep in mind that I was there kid.

>>58162813
Keep in mind that you're a brainwashed redneck with a fringe opinion. Here's the scientific polling data for you.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-clinton-most-popular-president-in-last-25-years-125018234.html

oh and,

>you need to add the number to your phone's contacts first in order to text them

>>58162807
>>attackers used open insecure communication without any encryption
This doesn't mean that there's no vulnerability because of encrypted terrorist communications.
Experts agree on that. And it's obvious.

>>58162807
>She's the same as Trump. Equally bad.
No. Even the most awful politician beats crazy clown any day. You'll have to learn this the hard way now.

>>58162855
It also doesn't mean that you can't use a more rational timing and location to discuss encryption in a rational manner,
instead of fucking up on all fronts and appearing like a fly crazily flying in the direction of a pile of poop.

Her fuckup also had diplomatic ramifications, because her attack on encryption being proven wrong also means she indirectly harmed the functioning and reputation of the intelligence network and communication between two allies, France and USA, made the US intelligence look bad because they need to appear correct with their assessments now more than ever, and made the French intelligence look incompetent because it turned out no encryption was involved.
The tactic of defending unencrypted communication involved in a terrorist attack requires a different angle from attacking encryption.

Now everyone looks like a bunch of eager children because of that one fuckup, and a little more trust was lost with society.

>>58162824
>redneck
I don't go outside much. This is Wisconsin anyways, nowhere near the south.

>polling data
You think I honestly care, don't you?

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>>58162891
>No. Even the most awful politician beats crazy clown any day.
There's someone more awful and she lost despite all the forces on this planet, including a temporary alliance of God and Lucifer themselves, attempting to help her.
>You'll have to learn this the hard way now.
I won't. I'm a Serb. No matter how shit of a day i am having, everything gets wiped away and a giant grin forms on my face when i think about the US elections.
Each morning i wake up with a giggle.

>>58162900
I don't think Hillary picked the fight over encryption, she just stated the obvious when confronted with the question.
It wasn't a fuckup you're just a reality denying extremist child.

>>58162903
>I don't go outside much. This is Wisconsin anyways, nowhere near the south.
Redneck talk radio evidently reaches you alright.

>>polling data
>You think I honestly care, don't you?
...

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>>58162936
>reality denying

>>58149468
Being able to 0-60 faster isn't why I bought a manual lol

>>58162946
Don't listen to the radio that much. Most television I watch is older movies.

The only real connection I have to the "modern" world is via the internet, and I really don't even want to hear the shit about that.

>>58162935
>despite all the forces on this planet,
The FBI deliberately torpedoed her campaign and Russia hacked her. The media focused on her emails but ignored Trump's con jobs and lies, but other than that...

> I won't. I'm a Serb.

That's like a Russian only ten times more hateful. It all makes sense now.

>>58162617
>NUTHIN TO HIDE, NUTHIN TO FEAR
Fuck right off.

>>58162986
>and Russia hacked her
Oh no. Russia did to USA what USA does to the whole world on a weekly bases. Oh the evil!

Ok, let's say Russia hacked her, not that there will ever be evidence of it since the time for releasing it has long passed. Probably enough time to manufacture evidence.

What about it? Are you saying that someone releasing dirty laundry about someone else is bad?
Or are you saying that it's only bad when someone other than USA does it?

>>58144183
The meter is completely arbitrary and the cm is too small for the human brain to deal with.

Feet and inch are based on the human body and much easier to visualise for the human brain.
Ask an Amerifat to estimate the size of some object or the distance between some objects and he will give a better estimate than most Europeans.

>>58162999
Breaking into private communications is bad enough, but one sided release timed to influence an election can be considered an act of cyber war. It'll have consequences because the USA is the leader of western civilization sensitive to this kind of interference.

And there was plenty of evidence that it was Russia even before the US intel community confirmed it.

>>58163061
>Ask an Amerifat to estimate the size of some object or the distance between some objects and he will give a better estimate than most Europeans.

I guess that's why all the precision engineering in this world relies on Germans and Scandinavians, and not Americans.

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>>58163061
>the cm is too small for the human brain to deal with.

>>58149559
we don't, that prospect was over this spring.

we watch it burn

>>58162999
They are not releasing evidence yet because they want to impeach Trump once he is in office. Looks more democratic if they let him be president for a couple months before removing him.

The fact they are still paying CTR shills like >>58163068 is proof enough they have this planned.

>>58163068
>Breaking into private communications is bad enough, but one sided release timed to influence an election can be considered an act of cyber war.

I don't see what this has to do with Hillary Shitton losing to a man whose daily tradition is shitting his pants and throwing them at other people.

If Hillary was good in any way and not an evil bitch, no manner of hacking on this planet would have destroyed her election.

You are basically saying that Hillary's dirt was so fucking bad that it was worth it for Russia to hack her. In which case Russia actually did something good.

After all, shouldn't you heed the words of your dear Hillary who also believe that "you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide"?

Every time you defend Hillary's loss, you ironically make her look worse for it.
Every time it looks like she is more evil than she is because "the stuff swept under the rug should have been kept swept for the good of society!".

>>58163061
>The meter is completely arbitrary
No
>Ask an Amerifat to estimate the size of some object or the distance between some objects and he will give a better estimate than most Europeans.
[citation needed]

>aluminum

>>58163117
In the end Hillary losing came down to only 80K votes in two or three states.

I think the US Senate will never admit that this changed the outcome but it will punish the Putin regime very hard.

>>58163116
>They are not releasing evidence yet because they want to impeach Trump once he is in office.

I don't believe they will be allowed to impeach Trump because it is in the interest of everyone for USA and Russia to ease their relations rather than burn them further.

It's ironic seeing the Democrats engage in the Red Scare these years.
Those over 40 must be laughing their asses off.

>>58163116
>everyone who disagrees with me must be paid

You realize that Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%? And most Trump voters are over 50 years old.

You're the crazy minority.

>>58163158
Yeah. We'll just ignore that many in conservative centers were dissuaded from voting, which is a pretty significant number.

>liberals smugly proclaim that stupid people birth the most while smart people have the least amount of children
>liberals proclaim that those stupid people are mostly non-liberals
>liberals start expecting a majority to be on their side in votes contrary to their own smug social math
First discrepancy.

>liberals smugly defend the rights of minorities
>liberals jerk off on and on about minorities
>liberals lose in a voting system designed to protect and give representation to minorities (minority states)
>liberals start calling for an end of a system that protects minorities contrary to their own values
Second discrepancy.

>liberals smugly proclaim that all people should be gay, all females should just not have children, that smart people have less or no children, that people should put careers in front of family
>liberals smugly proclaim that more Muslims and nont-Western cultures should be brought in because Multiculturalism is good
>those Muslims, Chinese, and all other cultures except Western ones are mostly very conservative, very anti-feminist, very anti-gay, and they have much higher birth rates than liberals
>Liberals self-eradicate themselves and their own values as societies that shit on their values overpopulate and overthrow them
Third discrepancy.

>>58163158
popular vote is meaningless in the US System. Voter turnout is very low in non swing states.

If you suddenly don't agree with the system just because your candidate lost, you are fascist.

>>58163167
Oh now you blame Hillary's dissuading mind control HAARP radiation? I though it was illegals voting by the zillions.

Stick to the script trumpkin, it makes you look less stupid.

>>58163188
>missing the point about the paid posters accusation entirely and pretending that the post is about election rules

You must be a Trumpkin.

>>58163198
>Oh now you blame Hillary's
It was the conservatives themselves who dissuaded.
In case you have been living under a rock, allow me to remind you that you didn't lose to conservatives, you lost to a 3rd party which is what Trump is.
Both the Republicans and Democrats lost in this election.

>>58140809
>Transmission
Oh so that's where the name of the torrent client came from.
kek

>>58163215
>It was the conservatives themselves who dissuaded.
They'll be proven right.

Bush was bad enough and ushered in the era of Obama. Trump is a hundred times worse so 2018 and 2020 will be the triumph of SJWs.

>>58163174
what is a straw man?

>>58163211
"b... but I'm not paid" is not a point
work harder, CTR
Trump didn't have to pay online trolls. They did it for free.

>>58163238
>Trump didn't have to pay online trolls.
Because Putin paid them.

>>58163243
>Putin did it
is this CTR code for REEEEEEEEEEE?

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>>58163224
>Trump is a hundred times worse so 2018 and 2020 will be the triumph of SJWs.
That would be correct if the Social Justice Evangelist's stopped waging a crusade against white males and stopped acting like condescending douches.
As things look now, SJE's will keep insulting and appearing extremely hateful,
they will probably up their hate against Christians as well (and Latinos and blacks happen to be very very big church goers and very traditionalist),
and they will at one point hit a nerve they shouldn't have in their wide-covering "progressive" hate-train.

The thing is that social justice evangelists need to get rid of some of their hate to accommodate Latinos who are becoming the significant voting force,
but cutting down hate is not something liberals are exactly good at.
The Horseshoe Theory has been proven too many times in the past 4 years.

>>58162477

I would love to shit on Apple for yet another thing, but locked phones isn't one of them We had that shit long before apple.

Arguably apple was one of the better providing a easy venue to buy totally unlocked phones. (I mean after the initial carrier lock bs at launch)

We had locked phones for a long long time, long before smart phones.

>>58144208
Bless this

>>58162995
This has been discussed already. Read the thread or don't complain.

>>58163312
I still have some early Morotola phones (Microtacs and StarTacs) that are locked. I understand what you're saying, but I feel like it was more reinforced by smartphones than anything else.

Prior to the smartphone, a cellular phone was used as a phone. For making calls. Of course, you could send short messages, but this was inconvenient and expensive for a time.

It's too bad there's practically 0 support for things like the Palm Treo anymore, those were excellent precursors to smartphones, as was the Handspring Visor.

This board really needs IDs.

>>58141059
It is a botnet.

>>58140839
>Today's automatics shift faster than manuals ever could and they're more efficient.

Then how come no racecars use automatic shifts?

>>58145055
seriously what is the deal with j cole is that a fucking meme or anything I'm missing? I don't believe someone listens to it unironically

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>>58140298
>mfw Americans spray their roofs with imperial cheese

>>58163708
How come no racecars use AI drivers?

>>58163745
Really good question.
It should be trivial compared to all-purpose self driving cars. Reaction times could beat any human.

>>58141242
as opposed to figuratively encrypted?

>>58141242
>trusting proprietary "encryption"
Man of faith, i see

>>58162663
Hillary is owned by George Soros. Inb4 Koch brothers. They didn't back trump, didn't want him as president, and even if they had I'd take their Christian ideals over Soros's zionist ideals any day of the week

>>58163174

what has this got to do with anything you fuck

What's it like being so paranoid about everything that you need to anonymously preach sms encryption to a bunch of people who don't care on your safe little Linux machine?

>>58160125
> Free
> Plan costs $70/month

Here I am, a youropoor, and I pay 23e/month for unlimited sms/calls and non-capped 4G.

>>58140298
>Americans put eggs in the fridge doors
well where else would you put them?

>>58163830
As if Trump's some pure, uncorrupt angel.

>>58164017
Didn't say that did I?

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>>58140200

>>58149658
>it's nearly impossible to find used automatics here in Europe. 99% of all cars are manual.

No, not when you're buying a premium car which is less than 10 years old. 99% are sadly automatic as better-off ppl cant handle stick.

>>58140809
I use it because I like to focus on the road because driving makes me very anxious. Manual transmission isn't a fun thing unless you're the only person on the road.

>>58162701
Andrew Jackson. George W. Bush.
There's two.

>>58140200
>Using some botnet shit where you have to make sure the other person has the same botnet shit instead of tried and true SMS where you know everyone can use it without downloading botnet shit

>>58165428
> botnet shit


got any proof to back that up? no? ok.

>>58149489
>validating your masculinity by a transportation vehicle's level shifting mechanism

>>58166066
> any proof
Non-free security through obscurity. It all boils down to trust: if you do trust Facebook, do as you will.

>>58150481
Except that's the newer definition of being a man. You can be a sell-out backstabbing snitch who doesn't have any semblance of character, but as long as you choose a specific car option, that's all it takes to call oneself a man. What a faggot.

>>58166208
No, I don't think you know what a botnet is.

>>58166225
There's a difference between a botnet and /g/'s definition of a botnet.

>>58163222
You must be 18 yo to use this website

>>58140200
I use Google hangouts, works fine for me

>>58140298

>imperial units
Have their uses. Metric is used where appropriate in the sciences. Arguments about unit conversion in imperial are irrelevant because the idea is that you don't convert between the units. Nobody cares how many miles tall a person is, even though miles are a unit of length. Similarly, nobody cares about the number of feet from Earth to Mars. Unit size is proportionate to the class of problems it is used to address, rather than arbitrarily deciding everything should be 10 times the last unit type.

>locked phones
Unlocked phones are available. Some people are just retarded or don't care.

>magnetic-stripe cards
Being phased out, but there's not that much wrong with them. At least we're not using fucking NFC for everything and getting our money stolen from our pockets because someone has a fake scanner on the train.

>DSL with data caps
Internet quality depends upon where you live. Some of us have pretty decent connections. It's a pain in the ass to address this problem though, because government backed monopolies, and the fact that it's a huge fucking country to lay down wires over.

>microwave water
Nothing wrong with this. Microwaves are exceedingly efficient at heating water. That's how they heat food, by rapidly flipping the water molecules in it back and forth.

>Americans sit on their roofs wearing red plastic cups
What?

>Americans put eggs in the fridge doors and buy aerosol cheese
Most consumed cheeses in America are Mozzarella, Cheddar, and Parmesan in that order. Only morons keep eggs in the door. If you buy it by the flat (60 eggs) it doesn't fit anyways.

>Americans have two parties and call that "a democracy"
We have many parties. Nobody votes for anyone but the Republicrats though.

>>58140200
because they are black?

>>58162477
Encryption is for your fucking privacy, asshole. No one has the fucking rights to know everything in your life.

>>58141023
> a water
heres your (You)

>>58142067
so is shat in mart. why wait to get home and carry all that shit around? i mean drive not carry..

>>58141322
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