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Who else fell for the 8GiB meme? >16GiB is too much. 8GiB

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Who else fell for the 8GiB meme?
>16GiB is too much. 8GiB is ideal!
they said.
it's just transmission-qt running in the background, chrome with 10 tabs, steam and foobar. And it's almost out of memory.
Thanks /g/
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Meanwhile I'm upgrading my system yo have 32gbs this Christmas
I do CAD, so I can justify it.
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>>58134016
Who else fell in gybybyte meme?
Let's talk GIGABYTE, like real men.
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>>58134049
i pray to the gods that my pc will POST every time i turn it on. nothing like the thrill of owning a GIGABYTE mobo.
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>>58134059
What wrong with GIGABYTE mobos?

When I brought mine a few years ago they were the most recommended, everyone was singing their praises on here

Mines been fine for 4 years now
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>>58134059
Oh, so that is expected behavior? I kept thinking it was breaking already since it was used and all.
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You need more swap.
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>>58134016
>chrome
found your problem.
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>>58134162
It was actually transmission taking 2,5GiB. Chorme uses only 500MiB, since it has caching disabled.
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>>58134016
Why don't you have a swapfile?
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>>58134215
because it is 2016?
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>>58134215
Because I value my SSD life and power consumption.
There is no need to have a swap file in 2016. It was a thing back in times when computers had very limited resources.
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>>58134049
>GIGABYTE
>boot is either with fans on full speed or almost full speed
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>>58134226
>>58134247
>he doesn't know what commit charge is
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>>58134276
I can cummit my charge in your mouth if you want.
I got it disabled since like a year and I'm very satisfied.
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>>58134287
Enjoy running out of commit.
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>>58134302
it regenerates typically every 8 hours.
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>>58134016
>300MB reserved
You using an iGPU or something?
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>>58134302
Bro you don't get it that hasn't been used since the pentium days. It's 2016 now we got adequate memory.
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I have 8GB and it's perfectly sufficient.

That said, I'll probably get 16GB when I build a new computer next year.
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>>58134339
well, I use iGPU + dGPU + eGPU
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>>58134016
>windows
>chrome
Do you even try or this bait?
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>>58134343
>he doesn't know what commit charge is
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>>58134016
I think the evolution of VRAM will almost stop at 8 GB, like it did with system RAM. More than 8 GB is nice but everything runs well on 8 GB still, especially user programs and games.
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>>58134016
I went with 32GiB 2 years ago. Kind of regret it since I run a few virtual machines at the same time and 64 GiB would have been better.
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>>58134016
12 gigs here, 16 is easier to find but 12-16 should be it now
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>>58134226
>>58134247
>>58134343
lol

Programs still use swap despite high RAM.
If you don't have it on a drive, Windows automatically assigns it to RAM so programs don't SHIT themselves because some retard things swap files aren't needed.

Not using paging means the OS can't make pages redundant, which means RAM fills up much quicker because having garbage collection capable of removing that would likely crash most programs.
SWAP is for non-essential working memory.
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>>58134016
>LET'S GET MORE RAM SO THAT DEVS CAN BE EVEN MORE LAZY WITH THEIR CODE
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Only got 16GB so I could turn paging off to extend SSD life. I hit 8GB use sometimes but normally hover around 5-6GB.
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>>58134536
>turning paging off
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i don't know how this is possible for you because i usually have a game, steam, discord and a few opera tabs open at the same time and i rarely go over 5gb usage
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>>58134498
No anon, the only SHIT here are programs designed to use swap.
And it's good that windows assigns this to RAM.
>which means RAM fills up much quicker
So? Are you poor?
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>>58134534
devs will still use more ram
>what is swap
Also today it's important to write code as comfy as possible, not to optimize it. Deal with it, you got the resources so stop bitching.
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>>58134578
>he doesn't know what virtual memory is
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>>58134555
let me explain
>steam
900MiB
>transmission-qt downloading via WiFi
2,2 GiB
>Chrome
1,5GiB
>Win10
>1,2GiB
And you're out of ram
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>>58134589
Virtual memory on windows = pagefile.sys
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>>58134609
>he literally doesn't know what virtual memory is
Just leave. You don't belong here.
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>>58134618
Nice argument you got there, shitlord
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>>58134016
You broke your OS somehow, need to be more careful next time
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Really felt the difference when I was using my video editor (Davinci Resolve)

16 GB is a must.
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>>58134625
>I'm retarded
We know. Thanks for stopping by.
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>>58134600
5.5 GB / 8.0 GB doesn't sound bad.
Also, qBitTorrent does not use over 1 GB of memory unless you're seeding/downloading more than 1 TB of files.
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>>58134658
Who are you quoting, fuccboi?
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>>58134686
The moron who doesn't know how computers work. AKA (You).
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>>58134016
>he uses windows
Wew lad

I really can't figure out what's eating up all of your RAM

I really can't

Good post
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>>58134247
Swap files are fine on SSDs nowadays. You are thinking of how things were five years ago.
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>>58134709
You mean you? I'm not the person you've been speaking with before, kiddo.
>>58134723
You clearly don't understand how TLC eMMC memory works.
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>>58134016
I fell for it, in 2011.
Probably will get 32Gb next refit.
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>>58134016
That's what you get for seeding your torrents.
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>>58134767
68MB uTorrent 2.2.1 master race here.
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how the fuck do you fucking niggers run out of memory so easily? i was with 2gb until 2015 and never had to worry about it running out.

i mean seriously do you guys just casually render fucking dreamworks movies at home?
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>>58134578
Programs are not designed to use swap, you idiot.

Programs see their available memory as a continuous, linear space so that the programmer doesn't have to deal with page swapping and the like. Operating system takes care of that.
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>>58134806
They are.
VirtualBox is a perfect example. Even with free 8GiB of RAM it's still going to write a lot of shit to swap file under linux and windows.
It drives me fucking mad when my drives are spinning up just because vbox wants to write stupid shit to swap every 5 minutes. Swap under linux should only be used for hibernation. Windows should have it disabled completely.
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>>58134829
>he doesn't know what virtual memory is
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>>58134829
Not him but name a diff example
VB is a virtual machine
Not a tipical program
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>>58134875
>he's repeating himself again
How does it feel to have schizophrenia?
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>>58134875
DOWNLOAD MORE RAM
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>>58134891
>VB is a virtual machine
Wew lad
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>>58134185
>Chorme
But what about Chrome, though?
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>>58134016
>being poor
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>>58134892
>he doesn't know what virtual memory is
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>>58134933
Take your anti-autism pills, please
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>>58134947
>he doesn't know what virtual memory is
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>>58134929
i prefer chorme
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>>58134016
I did, and 8gb is enough. What could you possibly need that requires 16?
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> 4GB and still not lagging
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>>58134829
I haven't heard about this issue, not an expert on Virtualbox, but I find that hard to believe.

For an application to "manually" write to swap file, it would have to run on ring 0 and flawlessly implement a fairly complicated algorithm of translating linear addresses to physical ones. It would make absolutely no sense to interfere with the system like that, especially when writing a program that is supposed to run on different systems, like Virtualbox.

It may write to disk anywhere it wants, but I won't believe that it writes to system paging file unless I see a credible source.
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I had 8GB for several years and it wasn't enough. I'd always be around 6GB - 7GB used on basic shit.

16GB and an 8-core = perfect
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>>58134790
Idiots run shit memory leaking software and then complain about it. Nothing new.

Seriously, a fucking torrent client taking 2.5gb? What the fuck.
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>>58135120
blame qt
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>>58134069
Same, mine has been working without any problems for five years now.
Not sure what people are on about with those.
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>>58135097
idk wtf ur doing, I'm currently using 2.9GB on an 8GB setup and I'm a Firefox user.
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>>58135016
What distro is that?
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>>58134016
I don't know what kind of a pisshead you'd have to be to listen to these retarded poor shits instead of spending a few more bucks to get 16gb.
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>>58135880
why do people keep asking this?
there's nothing in the screenshot that is specific to any distro
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>>58135880
gnome with lime green window decoration with arc dark gtk theme, numix circle icons, some kind of horizontal dock. we all had that phase one time.
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It's good to have more ram that you think you'll use since Windows sees this as a reason to cache more into RAM.
So the more ram you have the more it will be used, the less you'll rely on your HDD/SSD speeds.
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>>58136079
why 3 drives?
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>>58134016
Firefox with 10 tabs open.
Transmission running.
Steam running.
No clue what foobar is.
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>>58136722
Windows has a bunch of proactive memory caching features like SuperFetch...kinda hard to compare between the two operative systems
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>>58134016
Yep. I had Chrome opened and started Garry's mod. Maxed 8GB right there. Shitty optimization on the game's part, obviously, but I quit the game and ordered 8 more
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>>58137616
>garry's mod
15 years old detected
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>>58134016
when I upgraded my DDR2 from 4GB to 12GB in 2012 I was thinking it was huge overkill

I'm glad I did it now
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>>58138010
28, actually. I just wanted to see what it was all about
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task manager thread?
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>>58135880
It's apricity, I'm sure of it. You can just replicate that in any distro tho
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>>58135880
>>58138084
It also looks like Elementary OS now that I look closely
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>>58134032
>I do CAD, so I can justify it.
We did CAD at school with only 4 GB, so no you can't justify it.
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>>58138052
Nothing interesting.
HVAP is probably the only fun you can have in it.
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>>58134637
4gb pleb here as well

can confirm, Windows will always use a little bit more than half of the memory, no matter how much you have.
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>>58138136
I did CAD in DOS on a PC that struggled to run Windows 95 well.
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>>58138190
>Nothing interesting.
Yea, I figured that out pretty quick
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>>58134016
The >8GB is ideal> meme started almost 5 years ago, retard.
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>>58138326
Thank you. That's very kind.
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32GB ram user here. I ain't worried bout nothing. Didn't really need that much but hey it was cheap when i bought it and my board supported it so why not. But yeah back in the day, 32mb of ram was considered huge (1997)
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>>58138053
ugh what is wrong with your fonts and windows?
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>>58138053
>He pays Nadella to run Linux

>>58138573
>Phenom
Waste of 32GB

>>58138644
>Felhasznalok
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>>58134016
Should I just kill myself already? Laptop is old and can't find a cheap 4GB module of similar specs.
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>>58138053
>He fell for the 32gb meme

1 TB ram or gtfo
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>>58139003
What even supports that?
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>>58134016
>being autistic

figure out how much ram is cost effective for your specific needs on your own, fagget
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>>58134016
>He fell for the windows 10 botnet
You're running out of RAM because half of its being used to spy on the other half.
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>>58138953
>>>58138644 (You)
>>Felhasznalok

It means Users
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>>58134016

>people thinking they need more than 2gb
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>>58139086
>le spying meme xD
see you on W10 when everyone else is already using W12
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>>58139029
A lot of things that you can't afford.
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>>58139176
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>>58139176
>>58139198
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>>58134016
>boohoo
just buy another card you fucking jew
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>>58134016
You literally don't need more than 2GB of RAM at any given time. Close your fucking tabs and torrent from a seedbox ffs.
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Im doing exactly the same but using youtube for music instead
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>>58139164
>Autism
>>>/v/
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>>58136683
512GB SSD
500GB SSD
256GB SSD
Not enough space and I don't want any HDD in this, I have my other computer for that (with 14.2TB HDD space)
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>>58134226
What is "out of ram" exception prevention, instead of crash, you then get lagg.
Say 16 GB with 2 GB prevention swap, should keep the computer even more happy.

>>58134016
OP, i can clearly see your computer is on its suffering point of massive paging seconds going to waste.
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>buy "8 GB" RAM
>turns out it's actually 8 GiB
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>>58134016
> Chrome

I found your problem.
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>>58134016
>chr*me
>10 tabs
>steam
>windows
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>settling for any less than 64GB
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>>58134016
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>>58140673
12 tabs of chrome, with VLC and running on 8GB
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>>58134059
where does this meme come from, 6 year strong on my main machine and counting, are newer boards shit?
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>>58134049
But in RAM GibiByte makes much more sense. You can't address multiplications of GB efficiently while GiB is just 2^n something so it's always perfectly scaled.

And using .02123GB is just wasteful when referring to RAM.
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>TFW 12GB
>I didn't fall for any 8GB or 16GB meme
>I created my own
>And it werks for I don't even know how many years now
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>>58134276
>>58134287
ive had it off for a year too, but finally left it on because some old programs have problems even with 32gb
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>>58139171
the only thing I can think off is sql server with enterprise license
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>>58134016
8GB IS enough, you're doing something wrong.
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>>58134016
>Falling for a /g/ meme
Enjoy your page thrashing! I hope pagefile.sys is on your ssd, faggot.
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>>58134016
I dont know what the fuck you are doing, but you broke something.

Just last night I had my full de loaded (plasma), 100 tabs of firefox loaded, samba running, and two windows 7 virtual machines running without any lag or lockups. One virtual machine was actually running inside the other, and the innermost virtual machine had yet another 200 tabs in firefox open.

All of this with only 8gb of ram.
I kept htop open on my other monitor to make sure I stayed below the threshold because I have half a gig ram dedicated to just my igpu, it only came close to maxing out the ram a couple times when I doing shit on firefox like opening 10 youtube videos.

I want to get more ram, but 8gb is plenty to do all of this, let alone for that facebook tier shit youre doing.
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>>58134016
8GB is not enough.
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>>58134534
this - you don't pay for programs to work better, you pay for them to be easier to develop and more wasteful with resources
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>>58134016
8GB is plenty for me on my Linux box.
But 16 is barely enough on my Windows machine. Might upgrade to 24 or 32 soon.
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>>58140475
Why only use half ram?
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8 gigs of RAM sure isn't enough if you're using fucking chrome. The GPU process alone is leaking about 3 gigs of memory
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>>58134150
OP is a windows kiddie, they call it the "pagefile"
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>>58142821
Pagefile is more accurate.
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>>58142722
Using 50 megs with iridium on linux, that looks like a windows problem
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>>58134901
wtf do you think VB is then?
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>>58139127
Most of us want to go online without getting hacked.
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>>58140973
Microsoft gigabytes are 2^N
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>tfw fell for the 6 GB of ram meme
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>chrome
there's your problem, my desktop has 6GB right now and is just fine, no where near running out of memory with multiple things running
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>>58138953
>Nadella
I also use the free version (in fact that's Arch that glance is running upon)
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