what does /g/ think of yaourt compared to pacaur or just pacman?

after installing things with yaourt, can I manage said packages with pacman directly? i.e. updating, uninstalling or just searching them?

Arch = garbage

>>58126179
t,brainlet who can't install arch

>yaourt
>mandingo
>spic

The wall can't come sooner.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers#Comparison_table

yaourt sucks

>>58126004
Never used it.

What's the benefit over just pacman?

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>>58126230
You really would have to be a brainlet if you couldn't install Arch. That's why it's retarded to claim anybody who says Arch sucks can't install Arch. If someone says Arch sucks, they clearly aren't a brainlet, and they are therefore likely able to install Arch.

>>58126317
It allows you to use the AUR (Arch User Repo)

>>58126440
Meh. The few packages I've needed from the AUR, I've just installed with makepkg -sri

I can imagine the benefit if rely on stuff from the AUR a lot though.

>>58126485
and how do you update them? manually?
why would you do that manually if a script can do that for you?

>>58126554
I don't. As I said, I use very few packages from the AUR.

The only software from the AUR I'm running currently is Stepmania, zdoom and burp.

>>58126004
>he fell for the arch meme
kids these days... never learn

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I hear people talk about how amazing the AUR is, but isn't the main portage tree just as large? Plus, all ebuilds are managed by portage, no need for yaourt, correct me if I'm wrong

>>58126681
are there other distros where i can choose just a simple window manager like i3 with dmenu as my system?

>>58126742
Can't you install i3 and dmenu on e.g., debian?

tbf. It's been +4 years since I've last used anything but arch.

>>58126760
i don't know, i've never used just base debian. i've used crunchbang++ which i liked, but recently i tried out XFCE and the trackpad management was so awful i just uninstalled the whole system. i couldn't even touch the menu bar; it would keep snapping back to the center.

in any case i'd just like to have a really basic system that has my necessary network driver, something like i3/bspwm as the wm, dmenu or lemonbar, and a solid package manager that can do git installs.

>>58126004
I don't want AUR automated because of how potentially volatile and untrustworthy it is.
I do use cower which can search and notifies me of updates, but I download, inspect and install them manually.

Use yaourt since that's how i started with the aur years and years ago.

I'll give another one a shot, but it's been good for me.

>>58126793
The brief period I used Debian, I used Awesome. It was OK.

I've been using i3 on Arch for like 4 years now. The only downside is that Virtualbox behaves idiotically (unless you turn off menus, for some reason). Which is annoying since a lot of what I'm currently doing requires virtual machines.

That said, that's basically the only downside I've experienced using Arch.

In case it's relevant: I'm using a T430 laptop.

>>58126948
have you gotten wifi to work on it? because i don't.

>>58127064
On my T430?

Yes. It has always worked. Or, I've never problems with it not working.

>>58127129
damn, i need to figure what's going on with my hp. i have authentification/leasing with dhcpcd but i can't connect to the internet.

>>58127152
What's it saying?

What network manager are you using? And so on...

>>58126004
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=AUR_helpers&redirect=no#Comparison_table

yaourt is not used by the true autist

>>58126004
As anons in thia thread have said, yaourt is garbage compared to pacaur.

$ pacaur -Ss %package%

This will reveal packages the same as yaourt, pacman... etc.

Pacaur simply does the work with sanitation involved. Clean builds, etc, whatforth, and it seems to go faster than Yaourt.

Yaourt is stock, in Arch at least, but y'know, that doesn't mean it is top-dog.

timesink anti-package manager a vs timesink anti-package manager b

oh you just got a search function? we've had that for 15 years. by "we" I mean every other distro.

What's the most shit-on-purpose "package manager" for arch? Imma go write a script that will, after downloading and installing something, wait 30-500 minutes and then delete some random file in it. you fucking plebs and your working package managers, real hardcores jerk off on IRC for 8 hours a day

>>58128120
Sorry. I might be a bit drunk. But I seriously could not read past the second paragraph.

What's your point?

>>58126004
emerge -S is better

>About. Yaourt is a command line interface program which complete pacman for installing software on Archlinux.

Why, what is the use-case?

>>58126742
Literally any GNU/Linux distro you find is capable of this.

>>58126179
This
Also AUR is utterly shit full of script kiddies

>>58127184
it doesn't say anything. it just connected and now i can't actually load a page or ping anything. NetworkManager.

>>58126742
Gentoo

>>58129393
one where i don't have to compile my own lain porn

>>58129321
Try to ping an ip instead of an hostname. Could be just dns configurstion.

equo is the best. Prove me wrong.

>>58129439
i can't ping my router or desktop.

>>58129401
Every distro with a minimal install option works. But why wouldnt you compile your porn? so you can optimize it to your dick?

>>58129492
Then check your drivers (lspci -k) and white/black listing of the modules.

>>58129549
the kernel driver matches the model name for the nic. there's a blacklist for them? why?

>>58129563
You might have a driver installed but not want to use it most of the time. For example the sound driver for the internal speeker, you want it available but not active while your speakers work.

>>58129563
>>58129721
And try disabling any active netctl service and connecting with wifi-menu

>>58129770
this is exactly what i did

$ netctl list

then i saw my wifi connection and disabled it using if

ip link set wifispot down

then i reconnected via wifi-menu

and i tried to update my mirrorlist and it said no network connection.

>>58129871
buy a new pc

>>58129871
pajeet here, when you are from germany i can call you and assist

>>58129871
Disable them with systemctl. And check dmesg after trying to connect.

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>>58130407
>>58130407
so this is what i get after doing the following

systemctl stop NetworkManager.service 
systemctl disable NetworkManager.service
systemctl enable netctl.service 
systemctl start netctl.service
wifi-menu (and then connect to my router)
dmesg

it seems that my dhcpcd segfault'd. what do?

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>>58132320
anyone?

>>58126164
Yes and no. Yaourt will act as a front end for pacman for normal packages and will handle aur itself. So if you installed a community or core package through yaourt you technically just installed it through pacman