HOSTILE GNU/LINUX THREAD

>>58120804
Gentoo is for actual fucking autists

>>58120804
this should be a thing

GNU/Linux will never be as famous as Windows.

GNU will never be as famous as Linux.

>>58120804
Linux has lost it. SystemD proved it. Time to move to BSD.

>>58120980
>>58120965
>>58120956

not OP but I thought the point of the thread was to reply frankly to dumb questions and be elitist about everyone's way to use Linux.

Not just outright shit on it.
You fucking cunts.

>>58120994
Nice to see you set a good example

There isn't literally any reason to use Arch, only masochists and fags who likes mr robot uses a system that could easily fuck everything up with a update.

Install Windows

>>58120994
Anon we have the /fglt/ for that

>>58120804
Fuck windows gaymer babies
>can't use a fucking keyboard to navigate os
>can't write she'll scripts
>can't use terminal emulator
>can't use package manager

Then they cry and say Linux doesn't work?? YOU DONT WORK BITCH. YOUR THE PROBLEM NOT THE OS. FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUE GAYMES, IM GONNA SHOW YOU WHAT FREEDOM LOOKS LIKE.
BITCH

>>58121872
>she'll scripts
I'm on a GODDAMN PHONE RUNNING A BUTCHERED VERSION OF THE GODDAMN LINUX KERNAL YOU FUCKING GODDAMN BITCHES.

>>58121888
>2017
>still having autocorrection enabled

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>>58120941

>>58121936
>2017
THIS DUDE IS A GODDAMN TINE TRAVELER.
Hey is gentoo still a thing in the future?

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>>58121872
>a phoneposter complains about windows users

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>>58120804

Every Windows user should kill themselves.

Every, single, one.

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>>58122155
Why nobody is trying to hack Microsoft thou? You can bet they have all the keys to the backdoors in every Windows.

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NO ONE HAS INSULTED GNU/LINUX IN FRONT OF ME AND LIVED.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

I tried gentoo today.

I liked:
that emerge <application> would install the application

I disliked:
that I couldn't install anything besides nethogs because emerge couldn't choose the right file and I didn't know how to do it either.
oh and took 30 minutes to install 5/7 packages I attempted to install.

first time I didn't hate using plasma though.

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I'M UBUNTU USER
SON OF A BITCH ARCH USERS
ARCHFAGS IS PIG
DO YOU WANT AN UPDATE?
DO YOU WANT TO FEEL LIKE HACKER?
ARCH IS PIG DISGUSTING
AARON GRIFFIN IS A MURDERER
FUCKING ARCH

>>58122222
dem quints

ALL FUCKING LINUX AUTISTS! WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE AUTISTIC LINUX!

I liek this thread :3
it's so honest

>>58120804
>DUCKDUCKGO
botnet

>>58122222
checked

>>58123298
How can something that you don't download be botnet?

Fuck you you stupid fucking memer.

>>58122864
> :3
kys

:3

>>58123335
>how can a webpage you don't download be a botnet?
but you do.
>how can a website whose you don't execute code but only automatically share your queries server-side be a botnet?

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>>58123335

back in the day /g/ used to post "install gentoo" ironically, because it was a heaving pile of shit

neo-/g/ took the meme seriously and now this board is filled with stupid fucking cunts wasting their time using it unironically

>"Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company."
- René Descartes

>>58122495
You are a fucking canonical slave, I'm sure you dual boot with fedora.
Debian is the true OS, all heretics distros (includin faggentoo) must be eradicated.

>>58122239
Fugging jeanoo plus linecks

Linux is shit as a daily driver if you have cutting edge hardware or do any gaming.

WINE and PCIe passthrough are both memes and don't work well enough yet to be useful for games.

>>58120804
Richard Stallman has made stalled meme bittorrent.

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>>58120804

Windows is what actual people use and GNU/Linux is only used by complete autists.

I'm prejudice against muslims

>>58121872
>can't write she'll scripts
>YOUR THE PROMBLEM...FUCK YOUE GAYMES

YOU GOTTDAMN MORON YOU'RE MAKING THINGS WORSE FOR THE REST OF US

>>58121083
I've literally never had a problem with arch. ever. have you ever tried it you mongoloid retard?

>>58121090
>>58123424
>>58124018
>>58124143

Fuck you

This shit pisses me off, and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't just so I don't feed the fucking trolls. fuck.

Micro$haft Windows really grinds my gears, every waking moment my gears are grinding from it and I don't even use it.

>>58120804
>linux thread
>rick rubin loudness war image
kys yourself

>>58124143
Wyndows is what vidya game playing manchildren and IT majors who were barely able to pass their Intro to Computers course use. Whats it like being to stupid to make your own software choices? Is ignorance bliss as they say or is it painful?

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>>58120804
LOOK AT MY UBUNTU! LOOKK AT IT!
IT IS BEST DISTRO KILL WINDOWS
cHOKE ON mY DICK gen2
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>58124394
>grinds my gears
Doesn't include peter.

>>58124338

I wasn't even being ironic or trolling.

how do i install ubuntu?

hey whats up you fucking niggers, i hate all of you and this is why linux sucks:

autismo@chinkpad8=D~ $ sudo apt upgrade
Reading package lists... Error!
E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_xenial_universe_binary-amd64_Packages
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
 

ps pls help maybe, i don't understand what's wrong and I want to fix it :^(

>>58124509
also
>ubanto just werks i swear goy
>have you ordered your Amazon Alexa TM yet?

>>58124494
Then you're a confirmed moron, great job.

>>58124506
kill your self

>>58124494
I'm gonna assume you were this guy, since the other 3 posts are fuckshit-stupid.

>Linux is shit as a daily driver if you have cutting edge hardware or do any gaming.
>WINE and PCIe passthrough are both memes and don't work well enough yet to be useful for games.

I agree that the cutting edge hardware bit could be a problem, but WINE and playonlinux seem to work fine for 80% of the stuff i've needed

>>58124509
Try sudo rm -rf /*?

Just kidding try sudo apt-get update to get an up-to-date list of repositories first

>>58124637

You're right, that was me.

WINE and playonlinux might very well work just fine for 80% of games out there. Plenty of games even run ok natively on linux now.

Unfortunately, the shit I actually want to play like Star Citizen and Planetside isn't as Linux friendly.

>>58121083
anything can be fucked up by an update, and arch is easy to install.

>>58125478
You're the Star Citizen guy from the other thread (complaining about drivers support from Kubuntu)? Can you consider:
a) leave this board;
b) stop complaining about Linux drivers and buy Linux-certified hardware; and/or
c) consider /v/ for anything related to Star Citizen and videogames?

Linux is not a desktop operating system!
There are two desktop use cases: 1. Home use 2. Business enterprise use
In both these cases linux falls short. In home use, software simply isn't available for many home use cases. Performance is abysmal. Permissions are confusing for laypeople. Etc. All of the server parts of the OS ruin the home user experience. In business use the OS fails to be able to interact with standard business software and groupware.

Linux is only useful for serving up web pages on the cheap, or selling web hosting on the cheap. Another use case, although very narrow, is computation in the strictest sense--render farms and data processing--both of which are NOT desktop uses.

In the use case of server, linux also falls short.
Filesharing uses the gimped out SAMBA which is inferior to plain old windows server with active directory. If you don't know why SAMBA is garbage then you don't have enough experience in the enterprise world.

What would you expect from a 40 year old design where the only innovation is copying other systems. (cups+samba, samba, open directory, kerberos, etc).

Linux isn't even useful as a platform for business communications--there is nothing on it like outlook server--and this is a dead basic requirement for the enterprise. There is no groupware, other than Lotus which is complete shit.

There is no unified authentication for remote users either. You're stuck with a mishmash or kerberos, opendirectory, or maybe even radius thrown in the mix. Totally unacceptable.

Most UNIX innovation was done on Solaris, and their best tools aren't even available on Linux --(dtrace and zfs)--and now that Linux has eaten solaris' lunch, expect no future unix innovation.

Every other use case is better served by a desktop OS.


Linux users-the cucks of computing.

White knighting for linux.
Jumping thru 1000 hoops in hopes to get 'the prize' build up artificial knowledgebase on how to win. Consistently cucked by the industry.

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>>58125596
tl;dr, I'm writing papers in Archlinux with GNOME and LaTeX.

>>58123626
Underrated post.

>>58124124
he actually only wrote 2%

>>58124428
>>linux thread
>clearly says GNU/Linux
found the analphabet

>>58123821
take it back right now motherfucker

i was a navy seal

>>58123626
This

>>58120804
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

>>58126518
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.

You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?

>>58126537
If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this:

Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.

Thanks for listening.

>>58124438
underated

I fucking hate macfags with a passion.

Hello, I recently got mbp and now I'm not sure which Linux to install on it and how.
Are ancient guides relevant? Do I need any special boot software? Can I just boot macos, windows and linux with grub? Will that touchscreen that I got instead of f row work in Linux? Should I bootcamp instead?

>>58127619
Please don't hate me it was a free laptop and I'll need Mac OS to work with my hipster web dev team.

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zsh is only for fags

>mfw freetards in this very thread are posting using google botnet captcha on a closed source proprietary imageboard

>>58121083
I updated my arch install for the first time in over a year recently. Nothing broke, at all. Not Nvidia, not X, not Apache, NOTHING in the 500+ things that were updated.

>>58127747
How about fish?

>>58120980
>Implying gentoo

>>58127830
Never use it.

I'm very angry with you Anon.

Hwy does everyone think that Linux comes bundles with samba? Does it come default in shitbuntu or something?

>>58120804
F U C K
U
C
K

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>>58120994
>>58121872
>>58122560
>>58124018
>>58124509
>>58125478
>>58125596
>>58127664
>>58127973
I'D JUST LIKE TO INTERJECT FOR A MOMENT. WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO AS LINUX, IS IN FACT, GNU/LINUX, OR AS I'VE RECENTLY TAKEN TO CALLING IT, GNU PLUS LINUX. LINUX IS NOT AN OPERATING SYSTEM UNTO ITSELF, BUT RATHER ANOTHER FREE COMPONENT OF A FULLY FUNCTIONING GNU SYSTEM MADE USEFUL BY THE GNU CORELIBS, SHELL UTILITIES AND VITAL SYSTEM COMPONENTS COMPRISING A FULL OS AS DEFINED BY POSIX.

MANY COMPUTER USERS RUN A MODIFIED VERSION OF THE GNU SYSTEM EVERY DAY, WITHOUT REALIZING IT. THROUGH A PECULIAR TURN OF EVENTS, THE VERSION OF GNU WHICH IS WIDELY USED TODAY IS OFTEN CALLED "LINUX", AND MANY OF ITS USERS ARE NOT AWARE THAT IT IS BASICALLY THE GNU SYSTEM, DEVELOPED BY THE GNU PROJECT.

THERE REALLY IS A LINUX, AND THESE PEOPLE ARE USING IT, BUT IT IS JUST A PART OF THE SYSTEM THEY USE. LINUX IS THE KERNEL: THE PROGRAM IN THE SYSTEM THAT ALLOCATES THE MACHINE'S RESOURCES TO THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT YOU RUN. THE KERNEL IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF AN OPERATING SYSTEM, BUT USELESS BY ITSELF; IT CAN ONLY FUNCTION IN THE CONTEXT OF A COMPLETE OPERATING SYSTEM. LINUX IS NORMALLY USED IN COMBINATION WITH THE GNU OPERATING SYSTEM: THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS BASICALLY GNU WITH LINUX ADDED, OR GNU/LINUX. ALL THE SO-CALLED "LINUX" DISTRIBUTIONS ARE REALLY DISTRIBUTIONS OF GNU/LINUX.

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>>58128105
>GNU/HURD NEVER EVER

>>58128138
they just released v0.9, let's just wait

>>58120804
UBUNTU IS AN AMAZON BOTNET

btw i use arch

>>58125596
I use Linux for embedded systems development.
It kicks the living shit out of any other OS.

Just read this one Stallman's site

>Uber requires passengers to identify themselves, both to order a ride and to pay.

This was on his "what's about X" series.

I mean, what fucking planet are you living on if you can't understand the simple fact that if you're running a service (hotels, cabs) you would like to know who your customers are in case anything happens?

Please somebody explain this shit to me my ears are open.

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>>58128161
I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT, I WANT A DISTRO THAT IS SOURCE BASED WITH THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF TOOLS TO INSTALL THE HURD IN MY COMPUTER


YOU HEAR ME STALLMAN, HURRY THE FUCK UP

NOW
NOW

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>>58128222
ALSO I WANT A SCRIPT BASED INIT SYSTEM LIKE SYSVINIT NOT THE RETARDATION OF SYSTEMD

I WANT A MINIMAL CODEBASE FOR THE KERNEL ITSELF NOT HAVING TO TRUST A MILLION LINES OF CODES THAT COULD GO WRONG

I WANT STANDALONE SECURITY MODULES NOT AN ALL IN ONE LIKE GRSECURITY

I WANT JUST THE LINES OF CODE I WANT, NOTHING ELSE

GIVE ME THAT
GIVE ME
GIVE ME

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>>58128278
Have you looked into slitaz's init system? Pretty sure it's just one 200 line shell script. Also there's always Suckless's sinit

>>58120941
Arch is, actually.

>>58120804
Debian is the best. Fuck Arch.

>>58128214
you don't need the identity in case something happens

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I'M USING ARCH LINUX, IF IT MATTERS

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>>58120804
https://a.pomf.cat/ljcige.webm

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>>58128741

>>58128372
noted

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>>58128741

>>58128741
Quality, quality webm right there.

>>58128278
Sounds like you want BSD

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>>58128385
Linux itself is for fucking autists.

>>58125773
SEE THE FINGER?

I CODED 2% OF LINUX WITH IT.

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Is there not a single good version of GNU/Linux?

>Arch
autistic
>Manjaro
ass
>Gentoo
more autistic
>Fedora
Redhat and SJW
>Debian
SJW
>Ubuntu (with Unity)
Botnet
>Solus
Kevinet and no packages

Is Open-suse and non unity Ubuntu the only true path for a reasonable distro?

>>58120804
hi
why is mint so bloated?
bye

>>58129627

>>Arch
>autistic
>>Gentoo
>more autistic
Autism isn't a real disability It was invented by psychos to give themselves more work.

>OpenSUSE
Microsoft sympathizer
>Any Ubuntu
Is still Ubuntu

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>>58122420
kek not readin the portage man page.

not using eix

>choose the right file

this must be some retarded ass bait

it is true about plasma tho

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>>58124438
someone needs their nap

>>58128278
OpenBSD, you're welcome to watch the tree as much as you want.

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>>58123626
its not the right distro for everyone, i agree. and I have spent a lot of time compiling. but it makes my old ass system run like something from the past 5 yrs rather than a 10+ yr old cpu.

for most other reasons, debian testing is fine for me and brings me a lot of satisfaction.

Linux is a bad clone of an overly elaborate word processing system.

>>58129976
Why is this guy always blowing something?

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MY WEBCAM TURNED ON OUT OF NOWHERE WHAT THE FUCK YOU GUYS TOLD ME LINUX WAS SAFE

Try being in this thread and not have your state of mind not leak to other threads.

>>58127830
even worse

>>58130051
It's not hard, people used to use the internet and keep it separate from other shit. You didn't act on IRC how you acted on forums, or how you acted IRL, and IRL didn't spill into IRC or forums.
now, 4chan and facebook and each board is all connected and everybody hates each other.

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>>58130025
he actually spends more time getting blown

>>58120804
>gnu + linux
I call it gnu + linux + systemd + x + intel + beats + mozilla you pathetic excuse for a techie

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THIS IS NOT NICE THREAD

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HE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG

EXCEPT GIVEN PULSE TO OTHER PEOPLE

>:3

>>58120941
>>58128385
>>58129438
2rightsmakeawrong

>>58130044
install gentoo

>>58120804
YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF NIGGERS.

>>58120804
I installed Antergos.
AND I'M GROWING STRONGER.

>>58120946
Make it a thing!

>>58120804
Harry you are a wizzzzard

>>58129627
>true path for a reasonable distro

>has systemd

fucking kek m8

Ubuntu is cuck tier.

Anyone who runs it because they say it's so friendly, so well designed or that it's actually any good should go stick their face in front of a high speed train.

You are what's wrong with the GNU community. Go suck a mac cock if you want that faggot eye candy bullshit.

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>>58123626

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>>58124456
thank

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Am I doing it right?

>>58128198
Wut is QNX.
Wut is WindRiver

lol.

>>58120941
Linux is for autists.

>linux
more like

no one important uses it

>>58134913
>Mint
>Steam
>games
>Chrome
>"private mode"
>ABP
>ultrawide two screen spanning browser window
If this is supposed to be bait, then you're doing everything right.

>>58124456

>kernel 4.4

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>>58129627

>implying that autism is something bad

Smh, you're full of shit desu senpai

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>>58120804
Alright gentoofags, which OS is the best?
1. Gentoo
2. Arch
3. TempleOS

>>58137804
long time gentoo memer here

TempleOS, no contest.

>>58137826

ay fuck you

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>>58137868
CIA NIGGER DETECTED. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE