How long do external hard drives and SSDs survive ( not lose

>>58075535
Probably not but I'd never put valuable data on an SSD for cold storage

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>>58075551
Only had my operating system on it and some movies, it's outside the case sitting on a shelf ( not dusty tho)
Is it safe to assume it won't boot?
And how about the external hard drive? It's about 5 years old and has some important data on it, i rarely plug it to a computer, could it also lose data?

There are horror stories about SSDs beginning to lose shit after just a fortnight without power.

I can't confirm that obviously but if I were you, anything critical would be backed up to something else, maybe even "the cloud" if it isn't sensitive.

>>58075597
>the cloud
Nice meme

>>58075597
What are the guarantees that Dropbox or Google won't delete everything out of the blue and fuck you in the ass?

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>>58075597
I don't really mind as I didn't have that much important data on it, would still suck if it won't boot and or lose data.
Just wondering if someone was in my situation and can give some Insight.

>>58075535
>>58075595
Nice pics.

>>58075597
>mfw Ill be going home for the holidays and I cant bring my pc with me

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>>58075753

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>>58075597
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/205382-ssds-can-lose-data-in-as-little-as-7-days-without-power

Depends on temperature but if you don't live in Florida or Nevada your powered down consumer SSD should hold data for over a year.

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>>58075877
It's held on a shelf ( no dust) room temperature, sometimes temperatures might drop as a window is open but not tremendously.

This gives me hope, thanks.

How about an external hard drive? Keep in mind it's quite old.
Would using it at least once a month help in a anyway?

>>58075936
Mechanical hard drives don't need to be used or powered on. You could probably leave it for decades provided it's stored properly.

>>58075535
SSDs not long. My Seagate 600 Pros which are enterprise class are only rated for 3 months power off. Consumer grade disks wont even have specifications for this.

>>58075627
Back up to both if you're that concerned

If dropbox deleted my shit, I'd just use my local copy to create a new backup

>have harddrives from 1996
>load them up after 20 years
>still work

>>58077128
Most are fine for around a year provided you don't have the extreme temperature fluctuations found in >>58075877
The enterprise SSDs are probably just trying to cover their own arse.

>>58077204
>provided you don't have the extreme temperature fluctuations found in >>58075877
Did you even look at your own graph? They only hold data for a long time if the chips temperature is high and stored at a (relatively) low temperature.

Also your pic is shitty as it doesnt provide a source.

>inb4 muh link
It is shitty as it doesn't provide a working source. The JEDEC powerpoint 404's so i cant show you how it is taken out of context.

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>>58077302
>They only hold data for a long time if the chips temperature is high and stored at a (relatively) low temperature.
what did he mean with that?

>>58075877
Your Power Point slide was intended for enterprise customers to understand what could happen to an SSD AFTER it had reached the end of its useful life span (after more than XXXTB written) and was then stored at abnormal temperatures.

It’s not intended to be applied to an SSD in the prime of its life.

Daily reminder that BD-R discs are the best form of backup as of right now.

>cannot be destroyed by a computer virus
>theoretical 100+ year lifespan in room temperature environments
>read speeds are okay (6X is 27MB/s, faster speeds available)

>>58075595
>>58075535
How did you hxxd my eyes in three seconds?

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>>58077749

>>58077749
they made the images in kali linux

What causes data loss if you dont use them?

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I need to grab an external HDD, since I'll be out of high speed internet for who knows how long and I need to do a full backup of my laptop too.
Was thinking about getting this little guy.
What do you think, /g/? I have a 500GB WD and never had a problem with it, and it's health is still at 100%.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Elements-Portable-External-Drive-WDBU6Y0020BBK-EESN/dp/B00D0L5BH8/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1482169637&sr=1-3

>>58075877
What about Canada? 2 days?

>>58077128
My enterprise class SSD from 2010 has a power-off durability of 2 years

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>>58078512
Just because by definition, nand flash is volatile like ram and will lose data if it's unpowered for too long
This used to be an issue when SSD were first getting popular, but the problem has been beaten to death and any modern SSD has a power-off durability of up to a year, some even have capacitors to last even longer
Yes, using your SSD even once within this time period will "reset" the time needed to lose data

>>58075535
SSDs can lose data in as little as a week

>>58075753
So just leave it on?

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>>58075535
>Not using HDDs with SSD cache

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>>58081771
That's actually the worst option you could choose, unless you're using a discrete HDD and seperate SSD, but at that point ram is fine too

>>58081771
>SSHD
Top fucking kek

>>58079080
I have that one and it works perfect. Not sure what type of answers you were expecting.

/g/ what you think about Seagate?