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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5gqm2u/async_compute_disabled_on_gcn_10_since_1692/

AMD gimping GCN1 hardware by disabling features likes async meme

If you fell for that meme, you're a retarded moron
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>>58074340
>Nvidia shills on suicide watch even before the vega release.
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>>58074340
>amd disables async compute because it has no effect on older archs
>but anon they gimped me
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>>58074340
AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH
AH
AH
A
H
AH
AHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>58074505
Vega can't even best a stock clock 1080 in DOOM/Vulkan; an API designed for it. it's DOA

>>58074657
any GCN hardware benefits from Async
AMD wants them to buy 480s or the new 490.
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>>58074340
I FUCKING KNEW IT!

THEY GIMP THEIR HARDWARE, ALWAYS! LOOK AT HD6000 NOW! LOOK AT IT!!!
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>>58074657
>>amd disables async compute because it has no effect on older archs
>get 10+ more fps on 16.9.2 compared to newer drivers on my 280x
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>>58074340
wtf i hate amd now
>srsly
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>>58074340
AMD is so shit, fuck that company, they are always scamming people
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I HATE AMD NOW
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>We have actual evidence of AMD gimping their cards
>We still only have circumstantial evidence of NVIDIA doing the same
>/g/ will still defend AMD regardless
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>>58074340
I'm really starting to enjoy how the AMD fags, who bragged that unlike a lowly nvidia peasant they could update their driver without ever having to hold back, are getting burned.

Turns out that it's not a good idea to blindly update AMD drivers either.
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>>58074772
None of the same games. I like AMD but that picture proves shit.
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>>58074754
[citation needed]
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>>58074340
DELET THIS RIGHT NOW
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>>58074340
>amdrones trusted a poojeet
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>>58074340
the ace engines on the gcn 1.0 was merely a testbed
they arent flexible they arent programmable they cant even stop midcycle or flip
the gcn 1.1 ace engines and the v8 on p10 that are called hws they are fully programmable they can stop flip and jump mid cycle on the fly
i see no point of actually providing 2 pathways for something since 2011..afterall we already knew this since here http://www.overclock.net/t/1572716/directx-12-asynchronous-compute-an-exercise-in-crowd-sourcing
eventually the first gen sooner or later would have been kia

also its cute nvidia shills trying to bash amd for gimping kek
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Wait wait... By gcn 1.0 does that mean my r9 280 is included?

If yes fuck you amd my next cpu will be intel
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This is Fury and 390 without ASW in VR all over again. /g/ is literally shittiest place to discuss anything related to gaymen technology because retards in here take "muh freedom and case" over actual performance. It's like arguing with autistic neets over anime.
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>>58074340
PSA:NEVER BUY ANY AMD PRODUCTS THEY ARE ALWAYS TRASH.
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>>58077183
Everything but rx4xx is disabled. Just buy our latest turd goy.
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HAHA MAXWELL CAN'T INTO DX12

>Turns out 7xxx 270x and 280x can't into dx12 too

WORKS AS INTENDED!
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>>58077216
kek gcn 1.0 suddenly became everything

/g/ on a post
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>>58077270
desu everything except for 4xx doesn't support dx 12.1
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>>58077251
AMD just doesn't want to have an unfair advantage, you dumb nvidiot.
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>>58077288
>dx12.1
you literally dont even know what this is eh..
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>amd abandoned hd6000 back in 2014
>hd6xxx users now forced to use old drivers

>amd abandons gcn 1.0 today
>HD7000, >HD200 users forced to use old drivers
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AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
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>>58077251
>tfw upgraded from my 270x a few weeks before this happened
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>>58077560
dumb idolshit poster
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AYYMD, THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE GIMPED
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>>58074779
nigga youre just straight up lying now. running the stupid (I just hate the flashy GUI) latest drivers, relive whatever, and ran unigine valley without any oc'ing, got at least 2 fps more, with mild tweaking I got 5 fps more now, without crashing, unlike with msi's oc software
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>>58074772
>>58076077
>not the same games
>not the same resolution
kek
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>>58077372
GCN 1.0 is not everything.
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>>58074340
It's supposed to be reenabled again. At least according to bits and chips which is a silly site but this shouldn't have too much space for error if AMD said that.
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>Stephan Hodes says: December 13, 2016 at 9:41 am While async compute worked fine in almost all cases on GCN1, we identified some corner cases where it could cause severe issues. We’ve discussed several ideas how the driver could identify and work around those corner cases, but for now the safest solution is to disable async compute on the affected cards. Sorry.

sorry
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>>58074340
Going by this random youtube video there's basically no difference as is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BaKu-FiQgY
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i'll say the same thing I said for Nvidia's gimping: there's probably some nasty special cases in the drivers and they just said "fuck it".
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>>58078235
gcn is basically the entire 7000 series and almost the entire R9 200 series EXCEPT the 290x.

If it isn't a 285, 380/x, 290/x, 390/x, fury/x you just got BROWNED
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>>58079342
Nvidia doesn't gimp though. It's just keppler being weaker than GCN, while being less compatible with modern APIs like vulkan.

Whereas, all AMD cards are based on GCN which is the same core architecture from a HD7970 to the upcoming rx490.

It especially sucks because they were still selling GCN 1.0 cards in 2016.
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>>58079273
still up to cutting corners huh amd
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>>58074340
It's disabled for 1 game because it was causing issues for the old cards for that particular game.
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>>58079273
>some corner cases where it could cause severe issues
>so we disabled it completely instead of making work around for those corner cases
Bravo AMD.
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>>58081036
>for now
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>>58079273
>Choice between issues with one game or slightly lower performance in this one game for some old cards
>Somehow a huge deal that they chose slightly lower performance for some old cards
Fanboys blowing things out of performance as usual...
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>>58074754
>API designed for it

Vulkan is designed by Khronos Group.

The president of Khronos Group is from Nvidia.
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>>58081036
THE GIMPING IS REAL!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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If they don't fix this shit before VEGA comes out I'll lose my mind on which Jew to buy from. My god.
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Got a 290x no shite were given, still the best card last and this generation.
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>>58079894
wew lad
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>GCN1
>meanwhile my HD5670 works like a charm
>legacy driver too, so no gimping is even possible
VLIW masterrace
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>>58084678
Fix what? it's only on the old GCN cards where they gain basically no performance from DX12 anyways
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>>58086243
pretty much everything amd gains, however the gains from a-sync are in question.

I have a 280x, I would personally rather have a sub 10% performance loss over a game full on crashing if not a system crash.
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>>58084987
got a 5770 in a backup computer, fucking love that card more then a few of my family members and it served me well for years.
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>>58084987
You do realise that the legacy crimson reduces performance, don't you?
Check online, people are reporting worse performance compared to catalyst. Also that awful constant popup to upgrade to the latest drivers EVEN THOUGH I HAD THE LATEST LEGACY DRIVERS.
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ITT: it's ok when AMD does it
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>>58088811
>>58086419
Using an avatar is against the rules, fuck off to reddit weabshit.
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>>58074340
>>58074772
THIS CAN'T BE TRUE!
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Who the fuck ever used that feature on GCN1 with little to no benefits but crashes?

Stupid question here anyway, is this a warning they're dropping support for them? Christ, drivers that were cutting by half performance was the reason I went red
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>>58087971
>You do realise that the legacy crimson reduces performance, don't you?
I'd default to trusting internet people, but I'm autistic on this topic. So I have first hand proof this is not the case, or at least for my model (pic related).

>that awful constant popup to upgrade to the latest drivers
Just that other crap crammed to the "driver package" is getting updates.
I just blocked their updater from having internet access on my pc.
It's legacy after all, they won't add anything of value without me hearing about it.
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>>58087991
ITT: nvidia damage control
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