Name a bigger design blunder than Apple moving from Magsafe to

>>58063523
it charges the computers faster and if you are so butthurt about magsafe, then just buy an adapter for it.

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>>58063572
>just have an even more upsafe dongle hanging out the side of your machine, so you can snap that shit up the moment any weight lands on it
How about Apple fixes their fucking shit? Magsafe was one of the best things about owning a Macbook.

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>>58063523
>Apple removing widely used ports.
>Apple and strict firmware signing that is used for planned obsolescence (haha, fuck you, no downgrades).
>Apple and more planned obsolescence through poor software optimization on old hardware.
>Apple being totally closed source with iOS.
>Apple not making dev edition iPhones or IPSWs that can easily be rooted.
>Apple moving from glass and steel to flimsy aluminum shit.
>Apple getting rid of the 3D UI in favor a gay pride parade.
>Apple not putting USB C in mobile devices.
>Apple not having SD card slots or at least making a battery case that supports them.
>Apple using nothing but outdated hardware.
>Apple defending terrorists.
>Apple removing battery time remaining indicator in response to their own false advertising.
>Apple making thin and light fashion accessories instead of computers that "just work".
>Apple intentionally making life shit for 3rd party repair centers, even suing them for exploring beyond the walled garden.
>Apple not licensing Mac OS to other hardware makers at a steep price, therefore making Macshits more appealing.
>Apple pandering to gays and niggers on their website and at events instead of just showing the stupid product (which is what everyone came for anyways).
>Apple being patent trolls.
>Apple using Chinese slave labor and treating people so bad that the factories need suicide nets.
>Apple being so jewish that even their own cult members are pissed off about lugging around a suitcase of dongles.

These are all of the reasons why I hate Apple. They are literally the world's worst tech company. Inbefore, Applefags defend this.

>Name a bigger design blunder than...
GNU/Linux

>>58063858
I am going to answer your depiction of apples shitty marketing practices with a question.
Anon what if you had the power to rule a market where anything you make will be considered the best innovation to mankind. Why the fuck would you use that advantage?

>>58063949
Because I understand the value of true innovation and not being a fucking kike. You don't need to fuck people over to make money.

>>58063980
not him but you do if you wanna make the kind of money apple makes

>>58064074
Give the normies and the nerds a reason to want what I'm selling. I see no reason why a product can not be both functional and good looking.

>complaining about Apple replacing a proprietary port with a standard port.

>>58064196
>implying I would be using an Apple product if I didn't want superior proprietary ports

>>58064196
Why replace a good custom connector with a garbage standard connector? Why can't people see past the USB-C meme?

>>58064196
Most laptops use some form of proprietary power adapter whether it's a barrel charger or magsafe.

MacBooks were pretty good regarding proprietary ports before 2016, standard USB, standard HDMI 1.4, standard DisplayPort / Thunderbolt, standard SD card slot

>>58063523
The Wii u pad screen. There ya go. I think we can all Agree that Nintendo is an awesome company, they just try too hard to be hip when they should try to compete with what's actually on the market

>>58064775
Whats wrong with it? It does everything. It does everything very well, actually.

>>58063653

This is cool, but protrudes way too much. Could it be made more flush to the body of the laptop? Or does the USB-C standard need that much room out there?

This would be good for all laptops if they go the Macbook Route (only USB-C or at least, primarily USB-C).

>>58064844
It's weak garbage with it's hermaphroditic connector that has a weak tongue in the receptacle, just like USB Micro B.

>>58064873
So you think it's prone to breaking easily?

My work just got 14 of these brand new Macbook Pros in our office. I wonder about their longevity because of those stupid ports.

>>58063653
>Magsafe was one of the best things about owning a Macbook
Why? I don't understand this?

>>58064909
>So you think it's prone to breaking easily?
In the same way Micro B did, yes. I would be very careful about applying any force to the cabling.

>>58063858
>>Apple and strict firmware signing that is used for planned obsolescence (haha, fuck you, no downgrades).
The firmware signing is related to security concerns. Can't blame them here. To my knowledge they have not pushed a firmware update that rendered a device incapable of loading and using the base OS it was compatible with when it shipped. And if they did in response to a real security concern then again, I can't blame them.

>>Apple and more planned obsolescence through poor software optimization on old hardware.
Compared to who? The entire fucking industry is bloatware. You can thank Pajeet for that shit. Apple has been one of the more efficient, but they are in desperate need of another Snow Leopard update.

>>Apple moving from glass and steel to flimsy aluminum shit.
LOL what? Apple has been using aluminum since forever and it kicks ass.

>>Apple using nothing but outdated hardware.
Only place I agree here is the Mac Pros. With everything else thermal considerations take precedence and Intel is delivering 5% speed gains any way since Moore's Law is dead and buried. But Apple should have never gotten rid of the aluminum Mac Pro tower. They should have kept it and kept the components fresh.

>>Apple defending terrorists.
Fuck you. They were defending end user privacy against the all seeing eye of governments.

Your other points were unfortunately valid. Still, what are our choices? Windows is worse in every way and is botnet. And FREEDUM Linux can't run some critical commercial software.

>>58064919
magnetic so you can plug it in without looking at it, doesn't pull your computer to the floor if some dumbass trips on it, reversible, LED indicator that changes color based on charge status, collapsible cable storage built onto the adapter for travel

The biggest problem with the magsafe power adapter was that the cable quality Apple uses is questionable.

>>58063904
>GNU/Linux
That must be why the top 5 supercomputers in the world use Linux as their operating system.

>>58064844
The male connector should always be on the cable side because it's more prone to breakage. Putting the male half inside the machine is just begging for trouble. USB-C has a female cable which is absolutely fucking retarded.

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>>58064981

>>58065038
OK so there should be lots of reports of broken USB-C cables everywhere, right? But I never hear that. None of ours at work have broken, yet.

>>58065078
No, because it's something that will show up with use. USB-C hasn't been around long enough and it still isn't in wide use. Also, it may be slightly strengthened, but it'll never be that strong.

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>>58064866
Like this? It's not USB C though.

>>58064981
If the firmware signing is related to security concerns, then why can you downgrade Macs but not iShits? Explain that, Pajeet. It's only there to keep users in a walled garden. Needing a factory reset to downgrade should be more than enough to keep user data safe.

Apple intentionally leaves all kinds of bugs and shit in new firmwares for older devices. Meanwhile, my Nexus 5 runs CM14.1 better than the iPhone 6 runs iOS10.

Computer parts are not just the shit on the outside. Also the 4/4s were steel and glass. I can dent the new iPhones with my thumb nail. Aluminium sucks.

Apple's phones are still using 12MP cameras, batteries under 3000mAh, no USB C, and the A series chips get brutally raped by fucking raspberry pis and 2 year old Qualcomm chips.

Apple phones can be brute forced fairly easily. Just watch the YouTube videos of it. The phone was also running an old firmware.

>>58065230
USB C is shit and there's nothing wrong with a 12MP camera. Camera quality isn't determined by pixels.

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>>58065264
>"open standards are baaaaaad"
>still defends ishit cameras

>>58065035
>that knee-jerk strawman

>>58065217
REEE why isn't this USB-C yet? I would literally pay $100+ for this shit. I'm considering manufacturing my own.

>>58065303
Royalty free standards are just fine. What's bad is that USB-C is a bad design. iPhone cameras are bad because they are phone cameras, not because they are 12MP.

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>>58065303
yeah, iPhone cameras are so terrible
https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Apple-iPhone-7-camera-review-better-than-ever

>>58065035
Just curious, why don't they use BSD? Linux is bloated...

>>58063572
>the buy an adapter!
You've summed up every apple user ever.

>>58065230
>If the firmware signing is related to security concerns, then why can you downgrade Macs but not iShits?
To be clear: the firmware and the OS are separate things.

In general the only way to downgrade the OS on an iOS device is to restore from a disk backup made on your computer. Have any firmware updates actually prevented this?

>It's only there to keep users in a walled garden.
I don't deny iOS is a walled garden. It's meant to be. Hate it all you want, but iOS is the most secure platform for normies, period. If you're not a normie and you don't want your phone to be in a walled garden then get something else.

>Needing a factory reset to downgrade should be more than enough to keep user data safe.
The firmware updates I know of which could not be downgraded were related to exploits.

>Apple intentionally leaves all kinds of bugs and shit in new firmwares for older devices.
[citation needed]

>Meanwhile, my Nexus 5 runs CM14.1 better than the iPhone 6 runs iOS10.
>little man syndrome detected
Stop trying to "prove" your chink shit is better than someone else's chink shit. It might for you, big guy. But someone else might hate it.

>Also the 4/4s were steel and glass. I can dent the new iPhones with my thumb nail. Aluminium sucks.
Only because Apple has gone too thin. Don't know what to tell you because I agree but the general public pisses itself every time Apple shaves an ounce and 1/10 of a mm.

>Apple's phones are still using 12MP cameras, batteries under 3000mAh, no USB C, and the A series chips get brutally raped by fucking raspberry pis and 2 year old Qualcomm chips.
And none of that shit matters because the UI experience is generally better and the security is far better. Normies care a whole hell of a lot more about that then "muh specs!"

Also: implying anything more then about 8MP really matters given the sensor size in a phone.

>Apple phones can be brute forced fairly easily. Just watch the YouTube videos of it.
Tell it to the FBI.

>>58065014
FUCKING THIS

I wish magsafe had been adopted to be a new USB instead of USB C being adopted for charging. Fucking hell I would love to be able to get a data cable near the port and have it snap into place and work.

Why can't we have nice things?

if they make money its not a blunder

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>>58065392
It is.

Apple hate -

Compared to the other shit out there they are still the lesser evil at this point, even considering how terrible they are getting.

I get an Apple computer everything tends to work well. The display is amazing, the sound is great, the power is good and the hardware in general is solid. They have one of the best work environments available. A good GUI on top of a usable BSD backend. This is especially apparent when using their laptops in regards to screen real estate. With out any effort or tweaking I can have dozens of desktops on a single monitor and switch between them with no effort, I can also manage each of those spaces with just as much ease.

The most recent round of hardware makes me sad to no end, but I really don't have much of an option worth exploring at this stage. Windows is fucking shit for work (in general to be honest). It has a terrible back end and the front end is barely functional without an exceptional amount of hacks. Linux is nearly there. The application support is still very lacking for my needs how ever.

>>58063858
You almost have a few points there - but flew right into "lol I'm a troll" for a most of those - "Defending terrorist" 0/10 - come see me after class.

>>58063858
You forgot
>they make some of the only laptops that aren't giant hunks of shit

>>58065490
If they make less money or slow down their increase, then it is. There is an ocean of bitching about this issue across the internet. Apple fucked up big time.

Which is fine, we all make mistakes. But they better reverse that decision soon, or I'm certainly not buying another Apple machine.

>>58065517
WHERE

>>58065549
it ain't gunna plug itself

>>58065549
Literally "fuck you" the mouse

>>58065316
>being this retarded

>>58063949
>t. CuckBook Pro user

>>58065549
The magic mouse was always a huge "DEAR GOD WHY?!!?"

It can be so damn functional, but also so damn infuriating. Just a few design changes would have made it something great.

A few I would have tried - More ergonomic, a clear defined area for scrolling such as a matte finish strip down the middle, and bring the frigging touch area up a bit from the back.

>>58065399
>Apel didn't make it, therefore it's shit and a poor design
-Apple user, December of 2016

>>58065402
>dxomark.com
OK.

>>58065427
YOU CAN NOT DOWNGRADE AN IOS DEVICE REGARDLESS OF BACKUPS YOU STUPID, THICK SKULLED PIECE OF DOG FECES! Start Googling these things before you reply again. iOS is not secure and it never has been. Android is open source, meaning you can do your own bug fixes if you like. CM14 on my device is objectively the best OS. I get OTA updates weekly and Play services work just fine. Stop shilling, rajeesh.

>>58065549
Why didn't Apple allow you to charge it while using it?

>>58065660
>Android is open source, meaning you can do your own bug fixes if you like. CM14 on my device is objectively the best OS

Stop trolling, you aren't good at it.

>charge from any port
>charge faster
>daisy-chained charging from other devices
>charge from battery banks on the go

These benefits outweigh a magnetic connection and we all know it.

>>58065669
The most recent wave of apple hardware has had even the most solid supports scratching their heads for some of this shit.

the magic mouse needed a full redesign, not an internal battery and vagina.

>>58065684
Looks like you're out of arguments. I win and you lose, filthy goat fucking Indian.

>>58065701
The benefits don't outweight the shit connector.

>>58065755
As I said - a terrible troll. Come at me bro, even furries have better comes backs then you.

>>58065774
Yeah, the charging alone is "wtf ever", the big selling point for those I guess is the thunderbolt 3 when it comes to those ports. 40gbit and the hardware is much cheaper for TB3 it appears.

>>58065660
>YOU CAN NOT DOWNGRADE AN IOS DEVICE REGARDLESS OF BACKUPS YOU STUPID, THICK SKULLED PIECE OF DOG FECES!
First: act like a normal fucking human being and not an autistic angry virgin faggot.

Second: yes you can. But it looks like Apple stopped signing iOS 9 back in October. So for the 9->10 transition you're stuck. I don't care for that, but I don't know if they had legit security concerns or not. They stopped signing some point releases of 10 so I'm guessing they may have.

>iOS is not secure and it never has been. Android is open source, meaning you can do your own bug fixes if you like.
There are a couple new exploits for Android every week (check the vulnerability database). There are a couple new exploits for iOS per month if that. So don't give me the "hurr durr iOS / macOS aren't secure muh FREEDUM!" shit. Apple is more on top of this then other vendors.

>CM14 on my device is objectively the best OS.
For you.

>>58065800
>implying he's not a furry

>>58065549
Oh and don't forget the tip on that mouse is so sharp you can slice your self open on it. Not that I have ever met anyone who has.

>>58066017
Ok, that is far to say. That was insensitive of me wasn't it?

>>58065755
I did not consider that you might be a furry. That was mean of me and I didn't mean to hurt your (over sensitive) feelings. I'm sorry - c'mon bro, lets hug it out.

>>58065999
don't feed the troll.

>>58065035
the only reason people use them if because they are open-source and moddable.
If NT was FOSS, it'd have it's fair share of them as well.

>>58065669
It works fine while its charging. Its just really difficult use because of the cord.

>>58065417
Linux tends to be as bloated as you make it. You can strip it down reasonably well, though possibly not as well BSD.

I am also assuming they are calling them super computers because they have a lot of power. I don't think a bit of OS bloat will bother them all that much compared to something like underlying software limitations of certain modules, drivers, or programs.

>>58066231
:s/really difficult/impossible to

>>58065669
Fuck you that's why

>>58065392
>$100
Cuck.

You won't even need to charge your Macbook anymore. A external monitor can charge it thru USB-C.

>>58066469
>implying I own an applejew monitor that cost 10x the price of normal monitors
pls

>>58066469
Apparently thunderbolt already did this. Couldn't they just make this work with magsafe?

Those magsafe cables fray easily.

>>58063523
Now you're upsetting the guys who've been dissing the Magsafe for years.

>>58066524
You again? Go get a juice box from the fridge and watch some more telletubbies, the grown-ups are talking.

>>58066541
Thunderbolt didn't already do this until TB3.

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>>58066544
>he doesn't have the 60 bucks or whatever extortionate amount it is to shell out for a new Apple cable every few months

>>58066945
MagSafe and Lightning aren't the same thing, retard. The MagSafe chargers are like 80 bucks and they can last very long. I still have the original one from my laptop I bought over 3 years ago.

>>58063523
>changing from Magsafe to USB-C

>Pros
The cable can be easily replaced. The Macbook chargers use the worst fucking cable that rips in half if you even look at it.

>Cons
The cable isn't magnetic. But there are magsafe-like USB-C cables so it's fine.

>Overall
I'd say it's a worth while trade.

>>58065465
>Why can't we have nice things?
The problem with a data cable being magnetic, is the ease in which it's disconnected. Easy way to corrupt memory/fuck shit up.

>>58063858
>complain laptops adopt USB-C
>complain phones don't adopt USB-C

yeah ok boi, try harder

>>58065402
>less than a 5% difference
>it's now terrible

>>58064919
Without it it's impossible to use your Macbook in an Apple Certified TM (C) (R) Starbucks TM (C) (R) shop.

>>58065014
Apple hasn't used PVC in their cables for a while now, because of their own environmental initiatives.

Pros of not using PVC is better for the environment.

Cons is Apple's PVC alternative is absolute shit.

Their cables before 2009? I think when they used PVC will last forever, cables after they dropped PVC is only a matter of time before they break.

>>58067258
It was sarcasm, the iPhone camera is highly regarded and competitive with top-end Android phones.

>>58067310
That's interesting, I was wondering the cause.

>>58063572
Aplegags answer to everything

> just buy an adapter!

>>58067174
On a laptop... with a battery...

Dude, I think you are trolling, but holy shit I know I have seen people who would think shit like that.

>>58067338
Ah I missed the sarcasm I guess...

I can't believe people unironically think iPhone cameras are bad. Literally takes minutes to go and find some blind test to look at.

>>58063858
I seriously hope you have these written down somewhere.

>>58067359
As opposed to what? Not that I am defending nothing but USB c cables.

>>58064981
>Fuck you. They were defending end user privacy against the all seeing eye of governments.
thats bs they gave access to multiple governments multiple times before the ackbar guy's phone
also
>thinking apple on the biggest technology companies on the planet is not part of satanic cabal
come on..

>>58067459
>>Fuck you. They were defending end user privacy against the all seeing eye of governments.
>thats bs they gave access to multiple governments multiple times before the ackbar guy's phone
>also
>he doesn't know about Secure Enclave

Apple provided access before SE because it was so trivial refusing to do so could have brought contempt of court charges.

SE is designed to make it physically difficult or impossible for Apple to comply. Another step and it will be literally physically impossible for Apple to help any gov agency unless you use iCloud. No iCloud? No passcode? Then g-men are fucked.

>>thinking apple on the biggest technology companies on the planet is not part of satanic cabal
>come on..
>t. Tin Foil Hat

>>58063523
Apple removing the headphone jack.

>>58067725
>Apple provided access before SE because it was so trivial refusing to do so could have brought contempt of court charges.
>SE is designed to make it physically difficult or impossible for Apple to comply. Another step and it will be literally physically impossible for Apple to help any gov agency unless you use iCloud. No iCloud? No passcode? Then g-men are fucked.
havent heard that point of view, reasonable i suppose, in that case

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>>58063523
Reminder that apple didnt come up with that design. They just stole it from deep fryers.

>>58067725
You're saying that like encryption is something difficult that Apple invented. They only added encryption for the PR, they wouldn't have added it if it didn't get iFags wet.

Secure full disk encryption existed long before Apple jumped on the bandwagon.

>>58065660
There are a lot of stupid remarks on this thread but yours is the dumbest by far, yes you can downgrade an iOS device, I do it all the time as an Apple developer, secondly Android is not open source, Linux which is the kernel of the OS is and Darwin, which is the kernel of iOS and OS X is open source as well. It was a split from the FreeBSD project and you can get the source code to Darwin used by iOS by going to Apple or googling Darwin kernel development team. Android is owned by Google and to use it you must agree to all types of conditions including putting their Google Play Store app on the device. I develop software for Google as well.

>>58065230
>If the firmware signing is related to security concerns, then why can you downgrade Macs but not iShits? Explain that, Pajeet. It's only there to keep users in a walled garden. Needing a factory reset to downgrade should be more than enough to keep user data safe.
macOS doesn't use the same secure boot mechanism that iOS does. It relies on an update server validating the installation of any packages, after an OS release has been superseded Apple stop signing the version and the latest release is what you can then upgrade to. Keeping user data safe requires having a trusted OS install, leaving this in the hands of users isn't enough.

>>58067837
The way the iPhone's security has been engineered is really impressive, if you take a minute to stop hating on popular things and just read/listen.

The Secure Enclave chip entangles your PIN with a hardware key to encrypt your device, and limits the number of times you can attempt to do an on device PIN attempt, removing the storage device from an iPhone is pointless because the file system encryption keys are stored in the Secure Enclave, preventing an attacker from simply "plugging-in" the "disk" into another device and reading the bits. Full disk encryption is a tiny piece of the puzzle, and alone doesn't make you "secure" it's the countless other factors that work together to prevent data from being exposed.

Watch WWDC 2016 session 705 for a nice easy explainer of Apple's security features on iOS. They even have some interesting statistics on how they got more users to have a passcode by introducing Touch ID.

Fascinating stuff.

>>58068661
>>58068438
stop talking like a douchbag advertiser and you would gain more traction, also the things your saying arent special shit
>They even have some interesting statistics on how they got more users to have a passcode by introducing Touch ID.
kys

Apple moving from their 30-pin to Lightning.

>>58068999
Don't act like you care about security if you don't

>>58069085
security for myself idgaf about people using icum accounts

>>58068661
Why do you bother? The whole thread was setup as a troll den. The same kid has been trying to draw people in the entire time. I already called them out on it a few times now.

>>58069024
30 pin was shit, do you know how many broken 30 pin sockets I saw?

>>58070849
30 pin was incredible, both for its pinout and quality. I've seen more broken Lightning connectors in the ~4 years it's been out than I have in the entire existence of the 30-pin. They not only seem to fail more often than 30-pins, but faster too.

>>58063523
Itanium
Windows vista

>>58071092
Windows Vista was wonderful, the issue was that a bunch of retards were upgrading their old XP boxes to it when it upped the minimum requirements. If you actually had the hardware for the OS it was great, basically just Windows 7 with a slightly different UI.

>>58070936
You've never seen a broken Lightning connector. The Lightning connector is probably one of the strongest connectors in current service that isn't made for special applications. Cables are not connectors, the 30-pin suffers the same design flaw as most of the USB family.

>>58071201
I'm not talking about cables, you mong. I'm taking connectors. I've seen multiple broken lightning connectors, got an iPod with a bad one sitting a few feet away from me

>>58071274
And I have 3 iPod with broken 30 pin connectors in my junk drawer, so?

The Lightning connector is mechanically superior to the 30-pin.

>>58071284
Given we've both got nothing but anecdotal evidence I'd say the pint is moot. Even if the 30-pin was the worst connector physically (which I doubt) it's still the best connector pinout-wise and therefore is superior.

>>58071310
>Even if the 30-pin was the worst connector physically (which I doubt)
Go ahead and doubt it, but the design is superior. It's a very large tongue on the male side and a receptacle that allows some traversal of the tongue on the female side.
>pinout-wise
What are you even trying to say with this?

>>58071380
You can claim it's superior all you want, seems like flimsy shit to me.
>What are you even trying to say with this?
It's pretty self explanatory, I'm saying that the 30-pin's got a better pinout

>>58071423
>You can claim it's superior all you want, seems like flimsy shit to me.
All right.
>It's pretty self explanatory, I'm saying that the 30-pin's got a better pinout
That's not explaining anything at all, are you brain damaged? What about the pinout is so good?

>>58071432
>What about the pinout is so good?
nothing, it's an overly complex piece of shit that offers nothing you can't get from lighting / micro-USB

>>58071454
I know, but I want him to answer.

>>58071432
CI'm not brain damages, but clearly you are. You didn't ask me why the pinout was better you asked what I was saying, which was that the 30 pin's got a better pinout. And it does because it's one connector that carries
>USB
>FireWire on older models
>RS-232
>composite
>component
>line-in
>line-out


>>58071454
You're dumb.

>>58071502
>usb
>shit no one uses anymore
>shit no one uses anymore
>shit no one uses anymore and displays don't even support anymore
>shit no one would ever use after 2007

>>58071672
Go be retarded somewhere else.

>>58071708
He's not wrong, though.

>>58071743
He is though. RS-232 is wonderful and line-in and out are very useful, as are composite and component.

>>58071769
You can get USB DACs and ADCs, RS232 is useful on a phone how and how many things will the average person use it for? The only thing I see RS-232 on is literally decades old enterprise hardware. Who is composite or component video useful for? You can adapt HDMI to those, anyway.

>>58071798
You've totally got the superior and simpler idea, one port that forces a plethora of adapters on the user instead of one port that just werks with a bunch of different interfaces. Oh boy was I ever wrong.

>>58065625
>t. proud 2008 chinkpad user

>>58065684
>objetively the best ost
>they still can't make the kernel wake up the modem correctly
wew lad

>>58066524
Apple doesn't make monitors anymore.

>>58067385
The problem is that the end point where the contacts encounters could been affected by the magnet, because the contacts aren't shielded.

>>58071891
Jesus, I'm thoroughly convinced Cook's trying to run them into the ground

>>58071130
The problem is that Microsoft blatanly lied about the requeriments of Vista. Even certified shit could move Vista properly.
Probably an i5 today could move it easy piece, but then no.

>>58071947
I was running Vista on a Core2 Duo with 2GB RAM and an iGPU shortly after it came out, it was wonderful.

>>58071954
Well, I have a celeron shitbox then.

>>58071891
No fucking way. It's true. Just wow.

>>58071946
I'm too convinced that Cook is a plant of someone who hates Apple.
They aren't sending good messages with the lack of attention to the mac pro, for example.
>tfw they could have used a tall rectangle like the first PowerMac G4 cube used, put it in the black aluminum color, eliminating the CD drives and put PCIe ports with thunderbolt

>>58071838
Except it doesn't force anything. It's just a USB connection that outputs a video stream. How many people actually connect their phones to HDMI? Never mind fucking serial or composite video.

>>58072360
You mean USB can passively deliver video to say HDMI without an adapter? I find that hard to believe.
>How many people actually connect their phones to HDMI? Never mind fucking serial or composite video Dunno but I used my phone's microHDMI port quite regularly, would definitely have been using composite and component if it was capable of outputting them. As for serial that's not really directly for users as much as peripherals, should've been quite obvious.

>>58072397
It delivers H.264 video out of the Lightning connector, from what I've heard. That's how their HDMI adapter works. You're probably the only one in the world who wanted to connect up a composite video monitor to their iPhone in 2012 or after and, like I said, it is entirely possible to do it with more adapters. What peripherals would benefit from using RS232 over plain old USB...?

>>58063572
>it charges the computers faster
It's just electricity you know, doesn't matter about the connector faggot

>>58072419
Jesus Christ anon you're beyond retarded
>the main problem is adapters
>that's the thing, you can just use Lightning in conjunction with a bunch of adapters
The solution you're offering is literally the fucking problem.
>What peripherals would benefit from using RS232 over plain old USB
Why would anything use USB when it can use plain old RS-232?

>>58066465
POORFAG

>>58072468
I don't know how to respond to this.

>>58072488
That doesn't surprise me too much; you're not very bright.

>>58072397
>You mean USB can passively deliver video to say HDMI without an adapter?
Properly wired USB-C can if the hardware behind it supports HDMI/DisplayPort over USB-C.
Micro USB/USB 2.0, though ? Nah, not supported by the standard at least. Some proprietary jankiness can be pulled to make it happen though.

>>58063523
>>58064816
I never bought a Applel product but my niece wants one and I'm considering buying her one because I can without noticing it. My view is that USB-C isn't exactly a blunder compared to removing HDMI. That or and even the VGA port are ports I need from time to time. Ethernet too, personally. I think the lack of HDMI will even annoy a spoiled teenager (clearly their target audience) from time to time. Not including anything but USB-C was a blunder.

>>58063949
I'd use such an advantage carefully because it ends quickly when you don't deliver time and time again.

>>58064775
What's wrong with USB-C? The only thing I don't like is that it's not the current standard but I don't mind using both standards for a while.

>>58063572
>it charges the computers faster
average apple user

>>58072499
Says the nigga who think RS232 is still relevant and iPhone should have component out.

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honestly at this point i think picrelated is true.
there is simply no way people in apple look at their newest "courageous" change and say
>yep that looks good
>nobody can complain
>lets just manufacture it

>>58072799
There is literally nothing wrong with either of those things.

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>>58072928
I see you have no retort.

>>58063858
It's fucking comedy gold to me that a 2016 Apple phone needs an adapter dongle to connect to a 2016 Apple laptop. That right there should tell you everything you need to know about this company and the idiots who now run it.

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>>58063523
>Applel
Never disappoints BTFOing their own cucks.. i mean customer base, of course.

>>58072989
The marketing team runs the whole company.

But yes 100% keks to be had that you can't plug shit into one another.

I'm surprised that they didn't make Lightning 100% only Apple. Such as both ends that weird fucking connector.