/tpg/ Thinkpad General

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>tfw waiting on everything to ship

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Am I doing this right?

Is my battery charging or no? (I dont want it to be charging)

The battery indicator on my panel reads: (estimating..., 49%) all the time

>>57892828
It's the MALM desk and it feels much more expensive than it cost, incredibly sturdy

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Got the P50 from the mail boys.
Pretty nice beefy computer. It's actually my first Thinkpad as a regular device, and it's not bad at all.

>Keyboard
Surprisingly good. Not IBM glory days, but better than most laptop keyboards. I've only used flat keys for laptops, so the curved keys feel like heaven, especially spacebar. Makes it feel like a desktop keyboard. Trackpoint is best mouse interface for a laptop.

>Display
I didn't go for the 4k screen, but HD still fine. Not quirky artifacts or anything.

>Software
Usual win10 faggotry + A little bloat from Lenovo. Updates, a little rocky at first, turned out fine in the end. Drivers are ok. Probably going to try out Xen hypervisor on the thing later, but this'll do for now.

>Xeon + Quadro
Xeon processor is probably a meme, but it was the only option for getting the quadro m2000m.

Haven't tested out the battery but will tomorrow.

Questions?

>>57893007
yes

why havent you installed a linux distro?

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>>57893028
I will, not right now. I got school shit to do. Soon though, winter break is right around the corner for me.

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To the anon that sold me his x220. That "install gentoo" txt file made me chuckle. So because of that I'll make it a personal mission to install gentoo. I initially planned on installing Mint but I figured why not.

I have a T430s and basically the speakers are pretty shit - at least in terms of the low end. Volume and high's are fine

I'm running Ubuntu 16.04

Is it possible that I might be missing a driver or something or is everything fine and dandy and the speakers on the T430s are just trash? I work on a T540p at work and the speakers, including the low end, are surprisingly really good (for laptop speakers of course)

>>57893070
It's not that hard to install Gentoo. Step-by-step babby wiki on the website.
If you've installed arch linux, gentoo is just arch+waiting for compiling to complete

>>57893007
You could get the Quadro M2000M with the middle CPU option which was a higher clocked i7, just not the lowest i7 option

Who has a custom BIOS? I'm going to get either an x230 or t530 and I'm wondering if anyone's had issues flashing it. Is Coreboot the best option, or are there others you like?

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>>57893105
Oops, oh well. I got it 45% off, so I feel a little better. I just we'll see how the Xeon holds up...

x200 here

how loud/hot is yours?

>>57893203
x220
I have to put my ear right near the vent to hear anything
pretty stable, around 30-40C most of the time

>>57893238
my x200 is in the 50's while web browsing, and the fan gets noisy pretty easily. thought of dismantling to try and reapply thermal paste but IDK how bad of an idea that is

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>>57892677

>>57893007
I really like the P50. It's a fairly retro design compared to the T/X series. Hopefully the upcoming new T/X models follow this same line.

>>57893054
Holy shit a drive status indicator on the lid.

I thought Lenovo had ditched that

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x201t for $140 a good dealio?

Can I swap to a 1440x900 screen in this?

>>57889344
Retail or private server? I have a friend with the same spec, stock UI/minimal addons, and its still playable in 25 man raids (Cataclysm). I had a E6430 1366x768/Quadro/i5-3210M using LUI, Legion can get pretty laggy and hot in 15 man+ raids/world bosses, but 5 mans and general questing are perfectly playable (90-110fps constant). Same for Cata and Wrath, but the drop is lesser. Mimiron25 on 3.3.5a had some major fps drops, but that fight is quite graphic intense.

All of these are with low settings on everything but rendering distance (good), borderless window

(didn't notice there was a new thread)

>>57893262
>thinkpad

>>57893573
You used the same fucking OP pic as the /bst/ thread.

>>57893573
>>57893671
In fact you took that pic to photoshop /tpg/ onto it. It's probably your own photo isn't it. Fuck off. We don't want you to represent us, vapecuck.

>>57892677
What thinkpad is that? T420?

>>57892677
Is there any differences in the different ultrabay slim DVD-RW drives and Hard Drive caddies?
will whey fit in all the docks/laptops?

>>57893551
>win10
how does it run compared to 7?
too late now for that to matter though

>>57893820
Probably better.

Not going to be using Windows though.

>>57893834
>better
i never got how that worked out
isn't that akin to saying win7 runs better than XP?
It's always nice to have a windows partition to boot into

>>57893671
learn how to fucking read

>>57893860
no because windows 7 aero is hardware intensive. windows 10 isn't because it's actually designed to run smoothly on the same hardware that was around when windows 7 came out, only now they've had 5 years to understand how to make the UI more lightweight. They wanted windows 10 on tablets, ultrabooks, fucking cell phones even.

>>57893551
I lied it's $125 actually whoops

What type of switches do the OG keyboard use?

Anybody ever took the keyboard apart on a x220/t420 and cleaned the keys with soap and water? How hard is it to put back together?

>>57894051
>soap

T420 dimensions: 13.4 in. x 9.05 in. x 1.2 in.

T520 dimensions: 13.4 in. x 9.05 in. x 1.18 in.

If the T520 is smaller with a bigger screen, why doesn't anybody ever shill it here?

>>57894159
But that is wrong. Its 14.68in x 9.65 in x1.25-1.40 in

>>57894170
Sorry, I'm a fagget who can't get proper sources.

>>57894112
What's wrong with soap?

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I purchased a Dell Latitude E5250
My first business laptop & most expensive laptop I've purchased
The keyboard is just amazing.
Never seen such a good keyboard on a laptop.
I'm just loving typing on this thing.

>>57894691
Brand new? Nice going anon.

I'd that a 950 you used for that pic?

>>57894691
Keyboard is just bad modern-thinkpad ripoff

>>57894714
no, it's a 635
still using it cuz I only call and text with this
pretty good for basic usage

>>57893093
it's just garbage

>>57894732
I've never used a thinkpad
but why would you call it a rip-off
the shape of the keys are different, and there's no track point(although some other latitudes or precisions have blue track points)

>>57894746
You know that's a damn fine picture to have come out of a 635

I picked up an X220, and have been using it for a year now. It's a great ultra-portable, amazing for note-taking with the new battery I picked up for it.
But now I've run into a huge issue: the TN panel seems to have kicked the bucket; sometimes it works if I manipulate the lid just right.
I'm going to try to check all of the connections, but if that doesn't do the trick I might just put in a nice IPS display.

Anyone got any experience with this type of issue on a ThinkPad?

My Thinkpad has Computrace enabled. Is the only/best way to fix this calling them?

>>57894691

> chiclet keyboard
> amazing

When will this fucking meme die?

>>57893254
I think that the fan noise is quite harmless in comparison to all the coil whine/buzzing which can be really annoying if you're in an otherwise quiet place. Anyone has experience with methods to minimize this issue in Thinkpads in general?

>>57895053
kys yourself

>>57893262
>Optical drives
>no optical drives detected

Is optical now where floppies were about ten years ago? Are today's laptops assumed by default not to have any optical drive option? What about desktops, do they also routinely ship without optical now?

>>57893551
Specs?

>CPU
>RAM
>disks
>battery (genuine?/cells no./wear, cycles)
>PSU (genuine?/wattage)
>general condition
>additional accessories (if any)

>>57895102

I haven't used a physical disc in years at this point. Digital distro, USB sticks, and good old fashioned piracy have killed the optical drive.

I haven't bothered adding one to any of the last 2-3 PCs I've built even though they are literally like $20

If I ever desperately needed a disc for something I could just use my laptop and either transfer the relevant files or just make a disc image real quick. An optical drive takes up a shitload of space for pretty much no reason in a laptop though, it's no surprise they're being phased out.

>>57892677
desu, please post a closer pic of that touchpad
I'd like to purge this disgusting rubber from it, but not sure how it's going to look after this

>>57894051
If you mean removing each and every key cleaning it, and then replacing it, then I wouldn't bother if it's a laptop keyboard. Just order a new one and be done with it.

>>57894112
Not him, but washing keycaps in warm water with a bit of dish cleaner always worked well for me.

>>57894159
Because the T420 has obvious stoner connotations?

>>57894360
Just make sure you flush the keycaps in clear water afterwards so all soap is off before they dry.

>>57895156
Not op, but there is really no additional detail. Its just shiny and really weird feeling because of how smooth it is. Replacement stickers are $5 on ebay so you can just replace it later if you do decide you don't like it even more.

>>57894691
>I'm just loving typing on this thing.

I can't get a feel for the cucks who get themselves a chiclet laptop and then muse about how they "love typing on it".

>>57895065
>the perverse pleasure in knowing your fucked up old man ears can't pick up the coil whine driving kids up the walls at the dirty bean water store

>>57895053
Unfortunately kids who eagerly embrace new things just because the're new (with a disregard for whether it's objectively inferior to what has been replaced) make for excellent "useful idiots" for the greedy cunts who swap good stuff for crap. They also defend Windows 10, systemd, and now will probably find arguments why removing the audio jack is a "good" thing too.

>>57895082
Nah, you.
>>>/kys/

How many hd/ssds can X and T series Thinkpads hold?

>>57895218
kys

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Is the x2X0 tablet a gimmick? Do you guys write notes? Would you pick a x220 or x230 if the keyboard difference wasn't an issue. Pic unrelated, my chinkpad

>>57895142
So they're going the way of the floppy, essentially. Sad. This makes one feel old.

>tfw CD-ROM drives where the hot shit in the mid-90s
>tfw in the late 90s CD-R burners changed everything as suddenly you could archive 650-700 MB on a disc, which was about 10% of a whole HDD at that time
>tfw DVD drives, can now watch DVD video on your Pentium III computer
>tfw rewritable CD media, you can reuse your disc now
>tfw DVD writers yet a few years later, expensive as fuck, whoever had one was king
>mfw

>>57895208
I don't use the touchpad at all, it's just a matter of look

>>57895255

Chiclet keyboards are only popular because Apple made them a part of the Macbook line.

They only did that because you can squeeze a couple extra mm of space out of the vertical measurements of a laptop if you use a shitty island key layout.

They only did that because for some reason retards around the world decided that their laptop needed to be one third of an inch thick, meaning it has shit for battery life and is fragile as fuck to the point where dropping it from 12" onto carpet causes catastrophic damage.

Chicklet keyboards are literally retard tier.

>>57895296
Chiclet is garbage. There isn't much more to say about it really. If you're deluded into believing otherwise, apparently you're just one of those who >>57895255 (dubs speaketh the truth) is talking about. Also, >>57895263.

>>57895329
what are the 2 keys beside the space bar and the one beside right alt?

>>57895366
>Chiclet keyboards are only popular because Apple made them a part of the Macbook line.

Unfortunately. Those type of keys were originally invented a cheapskate alternative in the 1980s, but failed because consumers weren't a bunch of sheep back then and recognized them for the garbage they were. Then in the mid 00s Sony tried to use them with their Vaio line of laptops, but afaik it wasn't hugely popular either. Finally Applel managed to get us all down the shitter. I'm afraid the same thing is probably happening with the audio jack right now (Samsung supposedly is planning to remove it too from the S8).

>>57895329
I've got a beater X201T that I usually have with me in my backpack. Never was a fan of taking notes with laptops, but it's handy in other ways.

However, if I already had a T series, I would probably just use it.

You supposedly have to use oem batteries on the X230, btw.

>>57895403
Toggling character sets I'd presume (but an actual user of a Japanese keyboard will know better).

>>57895366
>Chicklet keyboards are literally retard tier.

They are somewhat better suited for the average person who clumsily hunts and pecks with just two (possibly sausage) fingers from above the keyboard. Touch typists using the proper homerow technique will find chiclet keyboards horrid, but sadly these days everyone is forced onto the lowest common denominator (minorities are only significant in a sociopolitical context).

>>57895366
Apple took a basic idiot tier concept of thinner is better, and it worked, at least up until now.

It's what happens when a computer company becomes a fashion company and it's only real competition for normies is utterly shit tier Windows.

>>57895422
I know ivy bridge laptops are OEM batteries only but Isn't OEM the best? Or it doesn't make a difference and lenovo wants to fuck people?

>>57895473
I touch type on chiclet keyboards, and I think the isolate shape isn't much of an issue.
I think the real problem with most laptop keyboards is that they have a short travel.
Thus, it would give less feedback, and feels like shit to type on.
I've not had this problem with business laptops though, since they have an adequate amount of travel on their keys

>>57893152
you can't flash an x230 with a custom bios, you'll want the x220 or the other **20 models if you wanna do that

>>57895329
The keyboard difference already isn't an issue. You can swap out the X230 keyboard with the X220 one.

Hence, X230.

>>57895053
>>57895218


>>57895542 is right. I haven't used the Dell one but I can tell by your comments that none of you have actually used a newer Thinkpad's keyboard. I know how it looks, like it's chiclet garbage, but using it actually feels nice. Doesn't feel like your typical Mac chiclet at all. The keys curve inward, like regular keyboard keys, possibly moreso than the keys on the old Thinkpad style. The key travel distance is great (as long as you arent using X Series or Carbon or Yoga).

The typing feel is objectively more responsive than my T420. The keys pop up and down a lot snappier, it's not as mushy. The board itself doesnt flex as much. I think the travel distance is higher too, since the keys don't have sides to them. I make a lot more typos ever since I switched from the X230 keyboard to the X220 one. I switched solely for the 7 row layout, which is a legitimate detriment. But for the rest of the keys, the modern Thinkpad one is actually damn good.

You can't judge by looks alone, I'm afraid.

I unironically like the key mechanisms of the newer keyboard better than T420/X220 era. I don't know why people meme them so much. They feel goddamn mushy as shit compared to T60 and earlier. Modern Thinkpad keyboard key feel is much closer to those.

>>57895334
>tfw i still use my ultrabay optical drive to rip music CDs

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>>57894691
He's living in same country as mine
also south cuckrea fug yeah

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>>57895873
tl;dr the nu keys are fine. It's just the layout that sucks. I use Excel a lot for work. Give me the menu key back, fuckers!

If they did a 7 row layout but kept their curvy chiclet keys I would feel no remorse whatsoever using it forever, provided it had full 2+mm travel

>>57895930
>ruining a fine T420 specimen with spyware 10

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>>57895873 here.

>>57895930 shows precisely what I mean. Look how much that keyboard is flexing up! T420/X220 keyboard is flimsy and mushy as shit. None of you underage hipsters has used a thinkpad older than that to even know. T400 era was the last good classic Thinkpad keyboard, and only certain manufacturers gave it the full metal frame under it without the holes.

>>57895961
i don't have any bad memory about win 10 so it's fine for me

>>57895999
>all the holes

For what purpose exactly? To make it purposefully lighter? To cut costs?

Also, what should one watch out for when looking for replacement keyboards for T60 and X201? What are the most recommended FRU numbers? The layout should be normal US ANSI (long return, long left shift etc.).

>>57895334
Those were very exciting times when legimately better and better shit was hitting the market constantly, giving substantially better performance and/or entirely new possibilities.

Since a decade or so actual progress is minimal or even negative (quality drops, changing better concepts for worse, marginal performance improvement, botnet implemented everywhere, walled-in gardens, etc.).

The era from the 80486 up to the Core 2 was the best time for the PC, since after that it has been a steady decline.

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I had an issue with my T420 this morning.

When I tried to turned it on, the screen remained black/turned off, despite every other LED and light turned on.
Even the mouse that's connected was powered.
I waited a few minutes, but nothing happened.
I eventually forced it to power off, then turned it back on.
What happened?

Guys do all T430s (slim) have backlit keyboards (proper backlight, not just think light). Also do they all have 900p screens? I haven't seen one with 768.

>>57892677
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-W530-i7-3720QM-2-6GHz-8GB-180SSD-WIFI-SD-WEBCAM-DVDRW-WIN7-PRO64-/311754461961


Is this a good deal for a W530
$479 AUD with free postage
i7-3720qm 2.6ghz
8GB
180GB SSD
1920x1080 screen
Quadro K1000M
In good condition

>>57892677
bump

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>>57892677
Are the USB keyboards any good?

I realized you can order both the SK-8845 and SK-8855 from Aliexpress, so they're not as rare as I initially thought.

I'm not really interested in the newer chiclet style, although I like its compactness.

But I'm hearing very mixed opinions about the older ones. Some love theirs, others say they feel like a cheap toy. Does anyone here have any experience with them?

thoughts on the E series thinkpads?

Thinking of saving up to buy the E470

>>57897077

they're disgusting.

if you're a poorfag, buy a decent used T, X or W series thinkpad instead

>>57897077
if you want to save up money look at new l-series. Its ok

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>>57895999
>None of you underage hipsters has used a thinkpad older than that to even know

nigga what the fuck you on about again?

compared to my G40 any of that shit is flimsy
g40's keyboard is backed by an 1/16th inch thick alluminium plate
puts your tinfoil shit to shame

>>57897142
wrong pic, but the g40 is underneath the snowpad

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also, i left my t42 outside running cs 1.6 for half an hour
its about 4 degrees farenheit outside
this is it after i brought it back inside and ran speccy

"what cooler, than being cool?"
[spoiler] ice coooollld [/spoiler]

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Hi /tpg/, t60 fag here again.

I just wanna know your personal pros and cons with it.

And like is it good for installing linux?

>>57897331
CPU goes up to T7600 (2.33 GHz), but that one can get a bit hot.
You might be able to install a T500 fan (which is more efficient and lower noise than a stock T60 fan).
The RAM is upgradable to 3 GB usable (the T60p supports asynchronous dual channel, so 2 GB + 1 GB will work in dual channel, dunno if it's the same for plain T60 too.
You should be able to purchase an docking station quite cheaply, it will give you 4 more USB 2.0 ports, a DVI port, and a serial port.
There's a PCMCIA slot which can be used for some upgrade.
If the keyboard you got there is not your native, it's recommended to swap it out (plain US ANSI keyboard is probably the best choice if you can use it).
If the touch pad is worn, you may get a new sticker for it, or swap out the whole palmrest.
If you only got a 65W power supply, you should get the 90W one, as it will charge the battery quicker and, most importantly, will allow your system to work at full speed without a battery installed (it's recommended to remove the battery if the laptop has mostly stationary use).

>>57897331
Also you should recalibrate the battery so that you can see it's current wear level is, and have more accurate battery charge level readings.
To do this charge the battery until it is 100% full, then reboot the system, press F1 to go into BIOS, disconnect the charger and let it just sit there on the main BIOS screen until it discharges all the way and shuts down. Once it does, wait about 5-10 minutes, then connect the charger (don't turn the laptop on yet though) and charge it for long enough that you're sure it's 100% charged again. Then boot an OS again and all your wear and charge level readings should now be recalibrated for maximum accuracy.

I need to try and source one of the square pieces of plastic that you find in between the rubber trackpoint cover and the trackpoint itself. I was cleaning and it must have fallen out as I can't find it. It's for an x230.

If anyone can point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.

>>57897406
>>57897468
Thanks a lot for the suggestions, but luckily everything is in near mint condition and it is actually more silent than my t500!

But I am going to do what you told me and recalibrate the battery through bios.

Thanks, anon.

>>57895627
I thought you could with an SPI programmer and SOIC clip, at least with Coreboot.

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I'm going traveling in a couple of months and I was thinking of picking up another thinkpad for the trip. I'm currently posting from a x220 but I don't want to bring it with me becasue I love it too much and I don't want it nicked or broken.

I know /g/'s opinion of the newer "chink"pads but I've been looking at the x121e, x130e, x131e etc. due to being designed for kids and schools.

My thinking is that there're gonna be loads available and they are designed for kids to drop and generally treat like shit. Good battery life and small.

Whats /g/'s opinion?

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>>57896239
Nobody had a similar experience?
Could it be the mobo failing or something?

>>57896239

Mine does this almost every time I boot it from sleep.

I changed the power settings so it hibernates instead of sleeps, and this fixes that issue, but then it still has other little issues, so I have to make it a point to power down or don't let it hibernate. Pretty annoying.

Also, about one in every ten boots, it fails to load its own audio drivers.

I have no idea why these things happen and I've found no useful resources on the internet to diagnose the problem.

>>57898247
>Also, about one in every ten boots, it fails to load its own audio drivers.
This.
I have this happened to me so many times.
I found turning it off, shaking it, somehow restore it.

>>57897142
is that IBM 6636-AC2 monitor?

>>57898247
i got a some issue too if i click shutdown it restart. so i change the setting

then click shutdown it's not completly shutdown system and showing black screen (keyboard light's on) so i have to push power button mannualy

>>57898247
I have the same issue of a blank screen on my T410 running Xubuntu, but only when putting it to sleep through XFCE's methods for it. I need to change to a TTY and kill my display manage to fix it. Sleeping works fine with "systemctl suspend" though so it doesn't really bother me.

x220 in perfect condition, i5-2540m, 8 GB ram, new 7800mAh 9 cell battery for 330€? Would that be a good deal for me?

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got the chance of getting a T430 for about 170usd or an x220 with SSD for 185usd in mint condition. is the x220 a no brainer? considering it has almost cero use and an ssd.
im not in usa so, the price on both is actually quite fucking good.

>>57898584
also it's from an electronics store with 1 year warranty

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Is the Core i5 2025M for the T420, soldered on?
I'm thinking of upgrading mainly to take advantage of better iGPU performance.

>>57898724
it's not soldered i checked my self

How do i go about getting a used X220

>>57898361
>>57898293
>>57898264

Is this potentially a motherboard issue if it's happening on Windows 7?

I wouldn't mind swapping in the nvidia board if it's justifiable as an actual fix and not just a flippant upgrade.

>>57898784
Then will getting http://a.co/7Qf39UD worth it?
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2520M

>>57898932
>desktop i7 in a laptop
Anon...

>>57898951
I meant this http://a.co/hTiPDiL

>>57892928
Pls advise

>>57898971
That's more doable. 2720qm seems to be the recommended quadcore to put in a T420, though. You can probably use that one without issue though, since it's the same clock speed.

>>57899042
Is there something even stronger?
Or second gen is the only thing I can upgrade to?

>>57899125
Hypothetically you can upgrade to an Ivy Bridge processor which would get you the iGPU boost you want, but you have to flash Coreboot, which is no simple process. A Sandy Bridge quadcore is just a simple drop-in.

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>white people amirite

remember the discord: https://discord.gg/QTdGgwh

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>>57899147
>flash Coreboot

Don't forget to disable the ME, guys.

>>57898971
>>57899042

OP here. That's the exact processor I have in my T420. made a big difference with Android studio and Photoshop but undetectable difference elsewhere. I also paid like $60 shipped for it, over a year ago, on ebay.

I think you'd be better off buying a T430 instead of a 420 and a quad core chip.

>>57896278
Bumping my question. Please help.

>>57898286
i actually have no idea what model it is
its a tft 1400x1050 screen

>>57898724
Only the slim models are soldered.

>>57899207
You can flash in coreboot and unlock Ivy Bridge on T420?

T420 is truely the dankest of pads

>>57898795
Like any item, you can exchange money for it.

>>57897772
They're not designed to be sturdy, they're designed to be cheap and replaceable.

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Is the eSATA port on the T420 is not powered, right?
What do you use it for?
I'm thinking of getting this
http://a.co/jkBD5K7

>>57899713
The x121e and x130e are cheap and replaceable I know but I think the x131e was made specifically for schools.

They have "bumpers" around the monitor and have a LED to show if the laptop is connected to the internet, so teachers know who is and isn't using the web while in class.

I think they would make them quite strong and durable due to how schools budget for IT. If they had to replace like 20 of them after 2 weeks they wouldn't be a option.

The only reason I'm looking at them is because they always show up on auctions when schools/colleges close down and they go cheap. If they can last years or months before the school closes under heavy use then they sound pretty sturdy to me.

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has anyone had a issue with video tearing?
it only started yesterday. x220

>>57899739
pls tell it's fake

>>57899739
pls tell me it's real

>>57900164
yeah I have this pic saved from awhile back. if it is real he's one lucky kid. wew

How do I get the goop from stickers off of the bottom of my thinkpad?

which is the most recent thinkpad with a 16:10 screen? T410, right?

>>57892677
Why is my Thinkpad X220 fucking slow as balls when plugged into the AC like it's super smooth when on battery and plugged in it's fucking slow as balls.

have you gotten used to 1366x768 13,3" screens? obviously it's not a netflix machine but i'm sitll worried, having used full hd for so long

could grab a similar spec elitebook with 14" and 1600x900 quite cheaply

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if you want getting some part,
use aliexpress
customer service is really awesome

ebay is total shit without getting machine
they suspended my account bullshit reason and never answer my contact

>>57897142

Jesus christ what is this cave ?

>>57900641
I know right.

My RN3P didn't arrive after 30 days, opened a dispute and got a refund within five hours.

>>57900567
Original AC adapter or chink aftermarket one?

>>57892867
anyone can put expensive things in their shopping-cart, frienderino

Anybody else got the X1 Carbon 4th gen?

I just installed Arch Linux on mine and I wonder how much battery life other people are getting on average.

>>57892867
You could get that same table at ikea for $100

>>57900635
>dock with external screen and peripherals for serious work
>TV with Chromecast for Netflix and movies
>laptop screen for light work on the go and meme posting from the couch

I guess it's up to you and your computing habits whether 1366x768 is a problem.

I think the optical drive on my T420 have died.
Should I get one of these
http://a.co/7RGwHXa
Or should I get one specific to the T429?

>>57900647
my thinkpad rape dungeon
where i rape my thinkpads
or make them rape eachother
(mainly just games on the t42 and trying to find things to do with a 20 year old 380ed)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-HDD-hard-drive-Caddy-Tray-For-IBM-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-W530-T530-T430i-2nd-SATA/32601744272.html
Is this caddy any good for T420? I don't even have the HDD yet, I want to store weed in there.

>>57901612
Yes it'll work.

>>57899294
its like writen on the back
how is the monitor saw several on sale on local cragslists IBM and Lenovo ones for around 20€

>>57897595
>luckily everything is in near mint condition

Now, that's lucky indeed. Last time I obtained a T60, the cooling system was wrecked and had to be repaired.

Another thing is that if you currently have an optical drive in your ultrabay, you may obtain a HDD caddy and keep a second HDD there. It's one of the definitely recommended upgrades which I forgot to mention earlier.

>>57897746
I think that dedicated threads about Intel ME/AMT and their current state as far as Thinkpads are concerned should be made.

>>57901577
do you need it?

>>57901577
Just buy a HDD caddy unless you're like me and still use optical drives regularly.

>>57901835
Yes, I constantly need to burn data on CD/DVD.
>>57901889
I thought about getting a caddy + HDD to increase the storage and having external optic drive.

But couldn't find a caddy where I live, and all the external optic drives comes with USB 2.0 that would be very slow when writing/reading

>>57901917
Well good thing that the T420 ultrabay can be hotswapped then.

Get one made for thinkpads because it has that thing on the back that allows you to secure it or take it out.

>But couldn't find a caddy where I live
I can't find anything where i live, 100% of my purchases are from outside.

whats the most compatible distro for a x220?
do all your keyboard shortcuts work?

>>57901990
Same here, except I can't even order online.

>>57902024
OSX works 100%

>>57902150
what about older osx? i dont want shit to do with the iEverything™.

>>57902150
Except you have to replace the wireless card with one that isn't on the whitelist, so by definition it does not "work 100%".

>>57902277
>using wifi

Why is the T420 highly suggested?

I'm looking at it's configurations and it's not bad at all. Do you guys like it because of the old IBM design? It's keyboard layout and feel?

>>57900641
Now this is low quality shilling.

Aliexpress suspended my account when I been trying to buy things and it takes forever for things to arrive and when they do you never really know what you're getting. At least ebay is straightforward to order it may take a week to get your money back but you end up getting it if you don't get the product.

>>57903017
The T420 and X220 are the suggested models because they're the ones with the keyboard and design of IBM's models, the 430 and 230 have ditched the keyboard and most of the favourable design conventions in favour of a chiclet keyboard.

>>57897142
Not all of them. My dead kb has a hole filled plate. Too lazy to fee what the one i put in it has. Might be different for each FRU.

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>>57892677
>I am you, but poorer

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There's a thing called the impossible project that gives film for obsolete instant cameras, Would something like this be possible for thinkpads with better hardware?

>>57904433
Like what? Parts for obsolete thinkpads?
Best way is to just buy parts for the future if you intend to keep them around for long.
Ive got spare everything but body panels for my t42.
Spare pentium m's, ram, heatsinks, a keyboard, mobo, even a screen

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>>57892677
ppposting.

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>>57892677
what's up, fellow black man?

>>57899491
ivy bridge cpus work even on stock bios
don't flash this abomination of bios called coreboot

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Should I sell my x131e for a t420 core i5 8gb ram?

I like how you can replace/upgrade almost everything on a T420/30.

Is this doable for T440 and above ThinkPads? Can you replace or upgrade the CPU on them?

>>57904927
Oh its you anon! I asked you a bunch of questions about your x131e in the last thread. How come your thinking of selling it? And if you are, how much?

You lied to me /tpg/, you told me that the T420 display won't give me eye cancer. The keyboard is really good though, just need to get an external display.

>>57905391
I think it's a great laptop, but it lacks a docking port and I want a model with a quad core like the i5.

I'd sell it for $120.

Dont be discouraged from getting it though, it's rugged and great for portable use.

>>57904480
I meant more along the lines of some company/guys developing new motherboards that fit into an old thinkpad case

>>57905968
There's the x62, x320, x330 and the modern motherboard for the t60 or t61, don't remember.

Post lenovo coupons

>>57905518
Display is fine faggot

>>57905518
Did you get the IPS display or the faggot display?

>>57906171
>T420
>IPS
nani sore

>>57893070
glad you saw it, but do know i only left it there because of epic memes

I do not actually expect you to install gentoo, at least not yet. I still haven't even done it myself, I'm using babby ubuntu

Do the new thinkpads, T450 & T460 models and whatever comes from this point have the battery DRM like the T430 does?

Is ricing my t430 worth it? I haven't used Linux since 2010.

I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu and then installing i3wm or getting KDE Neon.

I've pretty much forgotten how to effectively use Linux, it will all come back though. Will it be difficult?

>>57904774
How? I just put an i5-3230m in my T420 and it's not booting. No beep codes, no display, even Thinklight doesn't respond.

>>57906463
I'd install KDE to get familiar with Linux again. It's a lot more sleek and cleaner than it was back then.

>>57892928
>>57898980
pls advise

What are my options like for improving my audio on T420? I've been taking my 598's with me when I travel with my laptop, but the quality form my thinkpad is significantly worse than from my desktop, or even phone.

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>chinkpads STILL can't read blu-rays

>>57907242
simply not true

>>57907278
Prove it faggot

>>57907242
What is an external Blu ray player?

>>57898919
I'm the one with the T410 and I have Nvidia graphics, though I don't have the same issues running Windows 7. Though that isn't to say that whether our issues are caused by the same thing given the models are different anyway.

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>>57907285
>external

anyone know where to buy one of these without stupidly high shipping rates for people outside the us?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X200-T430s-Optical-Drive-Blank-Bezel-0B50066AA-45N5129AA-Airbay-/291819674909

>>57907242
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T510-T520-T530-DVD-Burner-Blu-ray-BD-ROM-Player-Drive-Replace-/151236944357

>>57907333
At that price you might as well buy a chink hard drive caddy and be paying less with free shipping for something that's more practical.

what the fuck is a "docking" for thinkpad?
is it worth the money?

>>57907397
yeah I though so too...

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Has anyone installed Gentoo on their thinkpad here?
I've briefly considered going headfirst and installing it alongside flashing Coreboot, but my current setup is honestly perfectly fine and I'd risk fucking it up.

>>57907242
Why would you ever NEED to read a blu ray disc?

They can't read floppies, zip drives or laserdisc either.

>>57898724
What are you upgrading to? How much better performance can you reasonably expect?

>>57907387
Thanks, man, exactly what I needed. I've asked this question directly dozens of times, but seems I needed to use the good 'ol "___ can't even ___" meme to get good responses.

Just got my $200 thinkpad x230 tablet, 180GB SSD, 9 cell battery, and i7, thing runs great, feels solid as fuck compared to laptops ive had, just gotta get used to the smaller keyboard

>>57907441

You're on /g/, of course someone has

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>>57907443
>They can't read floppies

>>57904314
Hello brother

so im having trouble with charging my t420
i gotta twist the male end till it says charging and even then just the cord settling can disconnect it

I think its the female end thats broken but i'm not sure how to tell and everything looks fine inside and out. Any tips? I have a fluke.

It looks like i can find the part on cheap for ebay so i might buy it and try it anyway

>>57908193
Call a computer repair place and see if they have a Thinkpad charger you can try.

>>57900537
16:10 is a meme if you use any sort of DE with the taskbar on the side

>>57893007
How reliable is the Thunderbolt port for eGPU setups?

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>>57907864
>Reading flip flappers

>>57905591
Is yours the i3 model? Ain't it faster and newer than a T420 i5??

>unsolved rubiks cube

get out now

>>57904314
What is the exact keyboard model?

Also, is the Lenovo Preferred Pro what can be considered the last descendant of the IBM Model M? Or is it something else?

>>57909311
The world was a much better place when floppies weren't obsolete.

Why aren't T5XX series thinkpads recommended? Don't they have better screens than T4XX?

>>57910437
cause they're more expensive

I think the recommended models are recommended because they're pretty cheap without being hideously outdated

>>57910437
I don't like 15" laptops, but that's just me.

>>57906566
Work on my machine, FGT

Thinking of buying my dad a business laptop for Christmas. All he does is web browse. I'm thinking something durable with a decent screen. What do?

>>57910854
>something durable
>decent screen
I can only think of the T601F IPS mod.

>>57909873
It is, but is it really? If so I'll just invest in the newer models.

>>57910854
>All he does is web browse
>decent screen
>implying today's shit web requires a decent screen

Just buy him a chromebook.

>>57910885
fuck off you autismal idiot
>>57910854
x220 or x230 with IPS screen

1366x768 IPS is decent on 12,5 inch screen?

>>57898795
Just got one of ebay pal
Had to change the thermal paste as it was 70c idle now its 35c, also I now need to change the battery from a 3cell and get rid of the horrid TN panel. apart from that best laptop i have ever owned.

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Any news on that T420 FHD IPS screen mod?

last thing I heard was that the guy selling them last year stopped because of reasons...

guys, how can i diagnose what's cause a t410 to turn off unexpectedly ? Since some time I have just windows, but I think this didn't happen with Mint. It just shut downs and then when I power again no problems or errors, also nothing in event log

Hows a T450 with 16 gigs,hd screen and original warranty for 500 bucks?
it really seems a good deal to me,even though i like 15' screens but the t5serie cost a lot more.
What can be upgraded? i mean like an m2 ssd or an ips screen.

>>57910316
Please answer.

>>57912804
where the fuck do you find something like that

I got some warnings from lenovo settings about my battery/adapter, I clicked on the thing but the app didnt work
The charging battery light on the back is green and Im currently at 26%
Now my battery isnt charging, what happened?

>>57912889
ebay senpai
do you think its a good deal?

>>57912923
i think yeah, think i'd go for it

>>57899876
Nope. Had it for two years now.

>>57912863

Sorry I was sleeping. It's a Lenovo Fingerprint USB Keyboard. I think it's an older sibling of the Preferred Pro. Pretty mushy as you would expect but better than the cheapest Logishit. Plus it has a fingerprint reader which makes it comfy to login to Windows.

>>57904927
retarded setup. kill yourself.

>>57901315
Ikea also have better office chairs.

>>57893007
May I ask you more images ? Because I'm planning to purchase it too, but I don't know if the extra size is worth it, and how much would it be

My working laptop is a T460S, and I really fucking like it so far.
i7, plenty of RAM and a beefy SSD. I can actually just run VMs with all the terrifying shit kept there, instead of ruining my computer with oodles of middleware shit.

>>57913039
i re-enabled windows aero and it fixed it.

>>57913351
Do you feel comfy with giving your fingerprint to the botnet?

Do you also enjoy endlessly upgrading your Thinkpad?

I had started with a mid-specced T420.
>i5-2520M, 4 GB RAM, 80% 6-cell, 1600x900, 320 GB 7200 RPM HDD, worn out touchpad sticker and trackpoint nub

In the last 1.5 years I have bought:
>96% panasonic 9-cell, docking station, 240 GB OCZ SSD, Ultrabay caddy for the HDD, new touchpad sticker and a lot of spare soft rim trackpoints, external monitor (Lenovo 5:4), Lenovo keyboard

Next purchase:
>single 8 GB RAM module (for future 16 GB upgrading)

Long-term plans:
>donor machine/spare parts, mSATA SSD, i7 CPU, USB 3.0 expresscard adapter, external GPU

How does it sound? What's your roadmap for upgrading?

>>57896655
Anyone?

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>>57914185
getting X220 or T420 kek
Probably geting small stuff as first,
thinking about geting monitors first IBM or Lenovo, dock probably and a older model thinkpad to dick around till i find a good deal on x220 or t420 or a diferent model to replace my old asus and geting bunch of parts, making a frankedpad etc not sure about it now want to finish my desktop buil first but the monitor is probably the first thing i will get then somthing similiar like yours

>>57914715
that monitor look gooood anon

>>57913800
How many VMs can you run at the same time? And what guest are you using?

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>>57914185
>X220 i5-2520M 4GB 70% 6-cell TNT with some 250GB 7200rpm HHD

>weeb keyboard, unboxed 9-cell, unboxed slice, now 8GB ram, mSATA, SSD, IPS screen, eGPU

Work might make me need 16GB, palmrest has a couple of cracks, screen has a chipped corner, one of the rubber feet fell off, slice died, might want to get a dock, screen starting to ghost.

Best laptop I've ever used, and I had a T40, T60p, X201 back in the day

>>57914908
Which egpu? Something chink?

>>57908193
>I have a fluke
so... use it to test your cable? Why do you even have it if you can't come up with that?

>>57892677
tfw I haven't use the touchpad on my t420 since i've gotten it
who /touchpoint/ here

>>57904685
damn that looks comfy as fuck
dumb question but I know fuck all about computers and stuff, my t420 doesn't have a hdmi port obviously but the spare monitor I have is 1080p. If I connect my monitor to my t420 will it display at 1080p despite connecting with dvi or whatever it uses or would I need an adaptor?

>>57892677
http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/lenovo-thinkpad-x201-disassembly-clean-cooling-fan-remove-keyboard/
Do I really have to go through all this just to clean out the fan?

ello tpg, i thought id get your dick hard with no pictures

i was reminded of this project because i finally got paid for it, my boss wanted a laptop, didnt know what to buy, he was gonna pay 250$ for a beat up hp with a celery and 2gb of ram at a pawn shop

so i built him a t410, buying parts online, as many new or refurbished parts as i could find, including all new body panels, brand new screen, refurb motherboard
but i didnt have the chassis parts, or any screws, so, working in a large machine shop with shitloads of cnc machines, i made my own with leadfree ecobrass
my god it looked pretty. The insides of this machine were mainly brass, finely cut out to minimize weight, i even added custom frame pieces to increase durability, including a box around the screen edges, one along the bottom of the palmrest, and custom cable harnesses

on top of custom made brass screws, i also got some rubber sheeting on the water jet cutter and made custom screwhole inserts to make the bottom of the machine entirely smooth

the inside of this laptop, looked better than any turboriced desktop build

and he'll probably never notice until he realizes that the laptop outlasts him, or takes a bullet for him, or he can use it to beat his kid or whatever with no damage

no pictures because this was all at work where im not allowed to have my cell phone, let alone a camera

just thought i'd share, hes pleased, im pleased, and im gonna do it again to my T42 whenever i can, to show that off
ive done something similar with my R30, because the harnesses inside and the hdd caddy were nonexistent, so i made my own with a 3D printer, but i think a full brass reframe and such on my t42 would be fucking fantastic

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>>57914185
Got you covered m8, that's sort of my current T420 setup.

I know i could upgrade the CPU even further but seems like the quad core 2720qm is the best one i could put on this thing without reaching housefire or throttling issues.

The only thing left to max it is the 1080p IPS mod.

what is best 1600 900 screen for T420
Or everything is same

So the T420 I ordered arrived this morning. How odd is it that the first thing I did was to fully disassemble and clean it?

>>57915910

If you don't mind a glossy one, get a panel from an alienware m14x r2

>>57915911
Very /g/-like, i did the same and also remember to change the thermal compound.

>>57915872
Thanks for the CPU info.

>>57915941

I did, some mx4 in both cpu and gpu. Didn't check the max temps yet, as I had to leave to run some errands. I guess working in tech repair for 8 years tends to do that to you.

>>57915356
dvi supports 1080p.
Don't use VGA, because it causes eye cancer.
DisplayPort also supports 1080p

How do i get longer battery when I'm watching movies?

>>57916393
install gentoo
install solus
disable turbo boost
set a frequency limit for the cpu
lower the screen brightness
delete everything and install gentoo again

>>57916422
Already running
Turbo boost makes it fast
Cpu makes it fast

Anything different?

>>57914997
pe4c v3.0, windows 7, just plugged it in and windows automatically downloaded nvidia shit, it just werked

>>57915991

Speaking of which, I'm getting an usb drive ready to also do a fresh install of windows (sorry guys, no gentoo for me. I need to do some smaller projects on SolidWorks and that's windows only), how should I go about getting the switchable graphics to work? In a laptop I had previously, I had to install the Intel Graphics Driver - Restart - Install Nvidia, and it worked flawlessly. Is it the same procedure for this one?

>>57916662
yeah

Anyone done the xx20 FHD-mod?

nice blade running and roobix cube yore not helping the nerd stereotype how did you get my details this is spam do not contact me again

How does one into using the trackpoint?

I've got the t460s and seriously, been trying to switch from using the trackpad to using the trackpoint since about 3 days now.

I've got that program that lets you use the middle button as a middle click and allow scrolling simultaniously.
So far so good, but scrolling feels completely inconstistent, I have to sometimes press really hard on that nob in order to scroll more than like 2 lines per second, other times it feels fine and smooth.
This leads to pain in my index finger from the constant trying to push it harder.

Wtf am I doing wrong? Is the trackpoint just shit at newer Thinkpads??

>>57918781
Also my sensitivity is already at max, yet the movement seems slow as hell to me

>>57918781
Treat it like a clitoris. At a very early point in the 'hardness' scale, it is too much.

>>57918836
While being more gentle to it, the cursor movement is so slow, using the trackpad seems way faster. It lasts like 2-3 seconds going from bottom left to top right.
Is that normal?

>>57916100
>Don't use VGA, because it causes eye cancer.
If you have a shitty cable that is. If you have a nice thick well shielded cable then the picture will be good. I have a CRT monitor which goes up to 2048x1536@80Hz and has only VGA inputs. With a proper cable the picture is good (even though details are a bit tiny at a resolution that high.

Anyway what's with the stupid and vehement hate against some older standards lately? Is this board full of underages now who have never used Windows older that Vista or 7 on their own computer?

>>57918873
not the same anon, but yes, that is normal

it may seem annoying at first, but you learn to like it. eventually you realize it is actually amazing, it mimics the precision of a mouse. have you tried to do slow, steady movements on a trackpad? good luck with that

but the trackpoint allows for any kind of use case. need to do something quick, use the pad. web browsing, typing documents, reading, you use the point

Are trackpoints irreplacable on an x201? It won't come off and seems like it's glued to the small stick it sits on.

There's a thinkpad t400 in a local pawn shop for $70. Buy?

I want to install kali linux and use it for pentesting.

Do I get X220 with an i7 without an SSD (but I already have a spare one) or a X230 i5 with an SSD but for $280?
Both have 4GB RAM but I'm going to upgrade them to 16GB.

>>57919279
220

>>57918969
Why are you so upset, deus fampai?
Just because I refuse to use a deprecated, power hungry, problematic standard in 2016 doesn't mean I'm underaged
PS. kys yourself

>>57919290
thanks.

>>57916451
>pe4c v3.0
Do you have a picture of the setup?

I'm scared the used/ refurb niche goes mainstream. Here prices are noticeably rising.

>>57914908
Weeb keyboard?

>>57915872
>Yousei Teikoku
I like you.

>>57919795
Why are you responding to your own posts?
Haven't you received enough attention for today?

>>57919862
What are you on about

>>57919743
The Japanese keyboard layout.

You could remap some extra keys or look like a huge weeaboo.

>>57918982
Still, why is scrolling such a pain in the ass with the trackpoint? It's completely inconsistent, moving the cursor itself is smooth, but scrolling seems like going 5 lines per second, then suddenly 10 lines and then 2 lines per second. All while pushing it with the exact same force?

just curious can i change the x220Ts palmrest with the one from the X220? They look pretty different.

>>57919291
>problematic
>>>>/tumblr/

>>57919967
>>>/autism/

Fell for the memepad again : X220 arrived today ! 4gb ram/320go hdd, installed lubuntu, I love it. Plus the seller offered the station and a mouse. Now lurking for possible upgrades...

>>57920913
IPS screen

>>57920913
>X220
Less upgrades available compared to the T420 but still good and an IPS option, go for an SSD and IPS screen, in that order.

>>57916100
and a t420 dock comes with a dvi port correct?

New thread:
>>57921319

>>57919145
Flash libreboot on it

>>57921192
The mini dock series 3 which is the most common and cheap one comes with dvi, dp and vga.

>>57907242

LMAO...2016 and people still uses blu-ray!

>>57920913
got a good deal on a 750gb ssd on black friday for mine.

Future upgrades will be a new palmrest with fingerprint sensor, IPS screen and a WWAN card. Maybe a USB3 expresscard, since I have the i5 model

>>57921700
>fingerprint sensor
>WWAN card
for what purpose

you can tether internet from your phone and FP readers are an insecure gimmick

>>57921737
>fingerprint sensor
plain convenience, of course. I never leave the house with it anyway.

>I will have a throwaway sim card with unlimited data soon. Plus there's nothing really interesting to put in that slot anyway, if you already have a beefy sata3 SSD.
I'll admit though, that I'm not really sure if I'll do it, because I already said that I'm not travelling with the x220 anyway. It's just the only thing that actually adds functionality. A slower, more expensive additional SSD won't help me a bit. Is there anything else I could use the slot for?